"In fact the only way a Muslim could Islamically justify serving as a soldier in the U.S. army is if his intention is to follow the footsteps of men like Nidal." "Alleged Fort Hood Gunman a Hero, Says Islamic Cleric With Suspected 9/11 Links," by Patrick Goodenough for CNS News, November 9:
(CNSNews.com) - The Muslim U.S. Army major accused of shooting dead 13 people at Fort Hood last Thursday was a "hero" who faced a choice of betraying his nation or betraying Islam, according to a radical U.S.-born cleric whose possible links with Maj. Nidal Hasan are now under investigation.The cleric, Anwar al-Awlaki, led a northern Virginia mosque in 2001 which was attended by Hasan - and by three of the 9/11 hijackers.
Questioned but not arrested after the 9/11 attacks, he is now based in Yemen, from where his online lectures have been inspiring jihadists over the years since.
London's Sunday Telegraph first reported at the weekend that Hasan had attended Dar al Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church during Awlaki's tenure in 2001. Officials subsequently told U.S. media outlets investigators were looking into possible links between Awlaki and Hasan.
In a posting on his Web site Monday, Awlaki praised Hasan, calling him "a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people."
He criticized U.S. Muslim organizations for condemning the shooting attack, calling them hypocrites and - quoting from the Koran - saying "painful punishment" awaited them....
Here we have an interesting situation. Awlaki thinks Hasan is a hero and that what he did was Koranically and Islamically correct. Lindsey Graham and many others think that what he did had nothing to do with Islam. It would be illuminating and instructive if we were able to have a public discussion about this, and about why it is important in the first place. But of course, we won't.
"Nidal opened fire on soldiers who were on their way to be deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan," Awlaki said. "How can there be any dispute about the virtue of what he has done?""In fact the only way a Muslim could Islamically justify serving as a soldier in the U.S. army is if his intention is to follow the footsteps of men like Nidal."....
Yeah great. I hope someone actually listens to what this Muslim is saying...HELLO!!!!!! What he said.
A few years back in the UK, there was a series of TV reports called, 'Undercover Mosque' which revealed numerous examples of hatred preached in Mosques around the UK. There were other expose's on Islamic hate literature sold at Islamic bookstores. It's fine time some intrepid reporters a la ACORN do that type of investigative journalism and reveal to the US public what all too many Muslims really think about Americans of the Kaffir variety.
I've no doubt that Americans would be shocked, some would retreat into denial and recite en masse 'Islam is a religion of peace' et al. but the more we can educate our fellow Americans as to what Islam really is and what really goes on in the mosques the better this country will fare against Islam.
Lindsay Graham speaks when he should remain silent. It is time for voters to replace him and most of the rest of Congress, as well as the president and every other elected official all the way down to the local level, every one of those who continue to insult and outrage us with hear/see/speak no evil about events such as this. It's not clear to me how many of these people are as truly ignorant as they sound, or how many are knowledgeable but corrupt, or how many are silent about these matters simply because they are cowards. It doesn't matter what the excuse is - such people in positions where they control the public purse and set public policy are dangerous. We may not be able to do anything about the MSM who daily spew their PC nonsense, other than to ignore them, but, by God, we sure can do something about those who sit in public office by virtue of being elected. So for those who can, vote, while it's still possible to do so! Let's chase these rascals out of office and replace them with people of character and courage and backbone.
Ice Star - I fully agree with you. It's somewhat heartening to see what might be called a slight breaking of step in the MSM cadence about this story on Major Hasan (AKA Beldar), such as this from the LA Times http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-fort-hood-probe9-2009nov09,0,5487900.story . But never fear, they'll be back in step soon.
"The Muslim American Society’s Mahdi Bray cautioned against “drawing conclusions based on the ethnicity of the perpetrator of this tragic incident.”
Mahdi Bray is a pillar of support for Jihadists...and just what does ethnicity have to do with anything...It's all in the religion...Islam...feel the love? Any conclusions drawn come entirely from the perpetrator from his statements and from his actions....Mahdi Bray of course, is just practicising his Taquiyya, Kitman, and his Tu-Tuoque....after all, he and the attacker are on the same side.
"Radical Defender
Beyond his criminal history and the voter registration issues, Bray has a history of defending accused terrorist supporters, and of offering misleading statements about his organization's history and his own actions.
He traveled repeatedly to Dallas in support of defendants in the Hamas-support case against the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF). After a 2007 trial ended in a hung jury, the five defendants were convicted following a retrial in November on 108 counts.
Bray also served as a character witness at a bond hearing for Sami Al-Arian, who was accused of providing support to the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ). After an initial trial in 2005 ended with a mix of acquittals and a deadlocked jury on other counts, Al-Arian pled guilty in April 2006 to conspiring to provide goods or services to the PIJ.
Bray similarly has defended Ali Al-Timimi, who is serving a life sentence for soliciting others to wage war against the United States and attempting to contribute services to the Taliban. The conviction, Bray said, "bodes ill" for the First Amendment.
Later this month, he will speak at a fundraiser for the Muslim Link newspaper with British Member of Parliament George Galloway. Galloway is fresh off a trip to Gaza, where he gave 100 vehicles loaded with supplies and an unspecified amount of cash directly to Hamas officials.
Bray has made at least two trips to Cairo to stand in solidarity with Muslim Brotherhood members facing military tribunals for membership in a banned organization. Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan accompanied Bray on his second trip to Egypt to stand in solidarity with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
After the IPT reported on the trip, Bray wrote an article in response, arguing his stop in Cairo was one among many and indicates his opposition to military tribunals more than support for the Brotherhood.
"The reality is that my trip had less to do with the Muslim Brotherhood than with my organization's opposition to the human rights violations of Egypt-an American ally and the second largest recipient U.S. foreign aid."
Federal prosecutors say MAS was "founded as the overt arm of the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States." A telephone book described in testimony by a prosecution expert witness as listing Muslim Brotherhood members in the U.S. includes Ahmad Elkadi, Jamal Badawi, and Omar Soubani, MAS's three founding directors.
In 2004, the Chicago Tribune published an investigation on the Brotherhood in America, reporting that:
"In recent years, the U.S. Brotherhood operated under the name Muslim American Society, according to documents and interviews. One of the nation's major Islamic groups, it was incorporated in Illinois in 1993 after a contentious debate among Brotherhood members.
Some wanted the Brotherhood to remain underground, while others thought a more public face would make the group more influential."
Despite those documented links, Bray insists MAS was "established in America, and we are not an overt or covert arm of the Muslim Brotherhood."
On the same web page where Bray acknowledges being a registered voter is a slide show under the heading "Mahdi Bray's Photos." It includes images of demonstrations and political events in the U.S. One frame features a picture of Hamas founder Ahmed Yassin, who was killed by an Israeli bomb attack in 2004. Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, created in the wake of the Palestinian Intifada in 1987."
ROBERT: "It would be illuminating and instructive if we were able to have a public discussion about this, and about why it is important in the first place. But of course, we won't."
Yes, it would be a HUGE step in the public discourse if nothing else, we could just get our academics and politicians to acknowledge that there IS a problem.
Yemen, yes that's a good place to start deporting them fundamentalist Muslims :)
http://go.to/islamhistory
As long as you keep on making distinctions between "them fundamentalist Muslims" and "them Muslims" you can forget about deporting anyone.
Americans first need to disabuse themselves of that false distinction and after that concentrate on deporting the US treacherous leftist government - including the "president" to a high security prison. Everything else, including the deportation of the muzzlums will follow naturally after that.
The only thing that can save the West is the next American revolution.
From the article: Awlaki praised Hasan, calling him "a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people."
I have heard several interviews with Army spokesmen and others who express shock that "one of their own" could turn against them this way. Their mistake was in assuming that Major Hasan was "one of their own."
Let's hope they won't make the same mistake again at the cost of additional lives lost.