"Body bomb," of course, is putting it politely, as al-Qaeda increasingly resorts to underwear and suppository bombs to evade security. Similarly, the criminal complaint against Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab provides the following information:
... In general, those individuals who were on the flight and who were able to see Abdulmutallab report that prior to the incident, Abdulmutallab went to the bathroom for approximately twenty minutes. Upon returning to his seat, Abdulmutallab stated that his stomach was upset, and he pulled a blanket over himself. Passengers then heard popping noises similar to firecrackers, smelled an odor, and some observed Abdulmutallab's pants leg and the wall of the airplane on fire. Passengers and crew then subdued Abdulmutallab and used blankets and fire extinguishers to put out the flames. One flight attendant stated that she asked Abdulmutallab what he had in his pocket, and he replied "explosive device." A passenger stated that he observed Abdulmutallab holding what appeared to be a partially melted syringe, which was smoking....
Time may tell what was going on during those 20 minutes that Abdulmutallab disappeared, but the characteristics of the bomb's transport and design certainly appear to strengthen the case for a Yemeni connection.
"U.S. Eyes Yemen Al-Qaida Tie to Terror Suspect," by Robert Windrem for MSNBC, December 26:
U.S. agencies are looking into whether al-Qaida extremists in Yemen directed Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab and provided him with the explosives used in the failed bombing of Northwest Flight 253, senior administration officials tell NBC News.
They are also examining a possible link to an attempted assassination of a Saudi government official last August that used the same explosive, PETN, or pentaerythritol tetranitrate.
Abdulmutallab had visited Yemen in the past few months, say officials. Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula is a Yemen-based offshoot of al-Qaida.
Abdulmutallab's increasingly radical leanings and anti-western rhetoric caused his family to alert the U.S. Embassy in the Nigerian capital of Abuja of their concerns, although it's not clear when they did so.
He was added to a terrorism watch list, say officials, but not to the no-fly list. The larger terrorism watch list contains more than 500,000 names, while the no-fly list has some 4,000 names. [...]
Of particular interest to U.S. officials, beyond Abdulmutallab's travels to Yemen, is a thwarted attack on the head of Saudi Arabia's counterterrorism effort and an October article on the use of small amounts of explosives, authored by the Yemen al-Qaida group's leader.
In the former incident, a suicide bomber hid PETN in his underwear, detonating it when greeting Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, head of Saudi counterterrorism, last Aug. 28.
The man, who had claimed he was turning himself in, died in the attack. Bin Nayef, a U.S. ally, suffered burns to his hands. Cultural taboos prevented a search in that part of the terrorist's body. Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula claimed responsibility for the attack.
'War is a Trick'
That was followed by an article published two months later in Sada al-Malahim, the group's online magazine. In the article, "War is a Trick," the group's leader, Abu Basir al-Wuhayshi, advised would-be al-Qaida members to use small amounts of explosives to kill "apostates" and Western nationals, including on passenger aircraft and in airports.
The title should sound familiar. It was Muhammad himself who said "War is deceit."
According to a translation proved by NBC counterterrorism analyst Evan Kohlmann, al-Wuhayshi wrote: "You do not need to sacrifice huge efforts, or large amounts of money, to make 10 grams of explosives, or more or less ... make it [the material] in the shape of a grenade to throw, or [an explosive] to time, or ignite it from a distance, or a martyrdom belt ... and bomb with it any tyrant, or intelligence forces den, or a prince, or a minister, or a crusader wherever you find them, and also in airports in the western crusade countries that participated in the war against Muslims; or on their planes, or in their residential complexes or their subways."
Al-Wuhayshi pointed to the attempted assassination of bin Nayef as an example of how to carry out such attacks....
Flying is a voluntary activity, not a necessity or a "right".
It seems the only way we can reasonably protect ourselves from islamists and their dhimmis is to strip search all muslims/dhimmis prior to letting them board an aircraft, and then allowing them to board with absolutely nothing. No luggage, nothing in their pockets. Their passports, IDs & credit cards can be held by the crew until arrival and they can purchase whatever they need upon arrival at their destination.
I'd also suggest they be held in isolation for at least 24 hours prior to the flight and required to use a medically appropriate, effective laxative to prevent a bombing like the one targeting the Saudi prince. MRI/CT at the traveler's expense should also be required prior to boarding.
Another alternative would be to simply refuse to allow them to fly on carriers other than those of muslim nations. We should then refuse to allow those aircraft to enter US airspace or fly near US interests overseas and shoot them down if they try. Let them kill other muslims to their hearts' content.
"Let them kill other muslims to their hearts' content."
What "hearts?" Their Jihad ideology is heartless.
And due to the specific Jihad doctrine (extermination of all others', i.e. "Infidels") found in Islam and not in any other ideology save Nazism, I agree with your reasonable assessment of the Muslim situation concerning air travel, Annie. Also, railway travel.
It is hard to believe that the father ever told anything to the US authorities. My guess is he is saying that now to avoid any ban on him to enter the US, and God knows how much black money he is banking in our banks.
Anyone on a terrorism watch list should not be allowed to fly. This 500,000 versus 4,000 distinction is rot----and stupid----and potentially lethal, as in this instance.
"It is hard to believe that the father ever told anything to the US authorities."
I agree. I have found that fishy from the start.
and then there is the possibility that some of the bomb ingredients were hidden on the plane prior to the passengers boarding....
"there is the possibility that some of the bomb ingredients were hidden on the plane prior to the passengers boarding" - thats ruled out. The ingredients were tucked away in his underpants established by the FBI.
Where is Secretary Janet Napolitano in all this mess? Is she on holiday?
pulsar 182,
He probably had them hidden up his rectum and deposited them when he went in the bathroom.
It's actually too bad it wasn't an ass bomb that went off errantly. Couldn't you imagine the display? Fire roaring out his ass like a railroad flare? Oooouch!
Reply to Darcy...
Thanks friend! You are completely correct. :)
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Apparently the terrorist bought his ticket with cash and it was a one way.
So Much for the Department of Homeland Stupidity. My own family went through 10 time the scrutiny during our flight last year. We were flagged by the Jet Blue ticket desk ... the Homeland Security dude who was chemically analyzed us was totally dismayed at what they did.
Repeating what I suggested in an earlier thread on this same subject: in future, all passengers will have to enter changing rooms before a flight, strip off their clothing, and don one-piece throwaway plastic cover-alls. and wear them for the flight. Their clothes would be put in plastic bags, subject to inspection by security and sniffing by dogs, and returned to them at the destination, just like luggage is now.
You're welcome, Annie!
On all the news shows this morning, the attempted Terror attack is being discussed at length.
Not one has mentioned the Jihad doctrine in the ideology of Islam as the motivation, including "Terror Expert" Roger Cressy who was interviewed on the Today Show.
So pathetically sad. But the PC Dhimmis refuse to see. Indeed, it's all about how this Umar "fella" ("fella" - unbelievable. Try "Jihadist" and you've hit paydirt) got "radicalized."
It appears Umar was not working alone. Another man exploited the political correctness, rules-only-apply-to-whites security lapse to get the terrorist onto the plane.
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2009/12/flight_253_passenger_says_at_l.html
If this is confirmed, Delta must be hit where it hurts - as this would be an outrage to jeopardize 200+ lives for dhimmi thinking that they should give a "Sudanese" a free pass while non-Muslims are put through the ringer and toddler's milk is poured away.
Lost in translation....although I don't have the Arabic text for the "War is a Trick" comment, I'd bet it was the exact same phrase elswhere translated as "War is Deception". I imagine the magazine used the direct quote from Muhammad but it was translated somewhat differently.
Reading the comments section of 'The Independent', it becomes clear who the culprit really is...It's not America...It's not the internationally respected and loved Rasool Obama, and it's certainly not Islam...No, the culprit is George Bush...
Abdulmutallab was reacting to Bush policies of abusing Mahoundians and stealing their oil...It's 'all about oil' you see...Bush want's to distract the west while he steals oil...
It was mentioned that 'Shell' had contracts for Iraq's oil...I'm not sure but isn't 'Shell' owned by British royalty?
George Bush has to be stopped before he ruins America and causes Europe to fall to Islam...Once Bush/Cheney are arrested and imprisoned, terrorism will end...Peace will return to the planet...
Actually, Newt Gingrich mentioned on "Meet The Press" that the common thread of all these recent attacks is islam.
While I'm not a big fan of Newt, I had to laugh at his comment to the effect that there are people in this country who would categorize the attackers as "not being Rotarians" (rather than call them muslims or islamists). Regardless of my general dislike of Newt, he can turn a pretty phrase and even this degree of honesty is a welcome change to that of most of the cowardly liars we elect to public office.
Of course, all the other guests immediately reverted to dhimmi mode and started downplaying the connection with islam.
WELLINGTON: "Anyone on a terrorism watch list should not be allowed to fly. This 500,000 versus 4,000 distinction is rot----and stupid----and potentially lethal, as in this instance."
RESPONSE: Amen.
Raven: He was flying from Nigeria to Chicago via Amsterdam. When he landed for a transfer in the Netherlands, he was in the neutral zone. There are no thoro checks done on passengers in the airports once they are in the transfer zone. The problem occurred in Nigeria. It is more likely someone had whistled him in at the Nigerian airport than in Amsterdam. Hence, I think those mlive.com guys may have got hold of the wrong end of the stick. Have you notice how they sneaked in that little publicity of their law firm which had nothing to do with the story?
Araby is quite innovative when it comes to homicidal technology, but not much else. All the latest in killer tech.
Why did America give a visa to a person on the terror watch-list??
Dhimmitude above common-sense??
"and bomb with it any tyrant, or intelligence forces den, or a prince, or a minister, or a crusader wherever you find them..."
Yes, just the other day at the airport, I saw a couple of Crusaders standing in line, with their heavy chain-mail suits and chest-high iron shields emblazoned with a cross. They had to hand over their lances and spiked maces, however, before passing through the metal detector, while they were informed that their horses could not accompany them. On boarding, nevertheless, they were allowed to put their visored helmets in the overhead compartment.
Don't forget that the department of Homeland Security, is now working under the Commander in Chief of the fifth column, Husain Obama.
Obama has Dalia Mogahed, a veiled Muslim woman who promotes sharia and says it was misunderstood, as his adviser on Muslim affairs.
Anyone who ever heard Dalia Mogahed speak, knows how bad things are if that snake and CAIR are the ones Obama relies on!
Each one of us has a responsibility to expose that! Because right now, instead of thinking of how to fight this threat, the White House is more worried about 'Anti-Islamic' feeling.
As important, if not more important, for our security than the metal detectors in place in airports and other public venues, would be for our society to have in place bullshit detectors through which the teachers who are supposed to educate us, the newsmen who are supposed to inform us, the analysts & experts who are supposed to explain to us, and the politicians who are supposed to represent us, would have to pass.
Since the 'War is a Trick' Moslems brought to us their deadly Jihad and all the inconveniences of security that entails, from long lines at the airport, to screening luggage and passengers, to taking off our shoes, not to mention the costs, then it is time to inconvenience the Moslems with strict profiling and 'no-fly' lists, and invasion of privacy with body searches. They with their Jihad made our flying experience, usually an enjoyable expectation, into a hell. Now we blow back on them and make their experience of flying a living hell. If they don't like it, then find an alternate means of transport, preferably one of their own Arabian invention, like their native dhow or camel. They, the Moslems, have proven over and again their failure in policing their own, from imams to 'youths' and 'students' who practice their Mohamedan hate cult. Make them feel themselves subdued and unwelcome at our airports. Thank God this fool's detonator failed and brave souls saved the day.
The real question is:
How long are Americans going to live like this?
I heard Fox news talking about having to eventually place armed guards in all of our preschools.
At some point we are going to have to take a look at our freedom in the context that the founding fathers intended for us in regards to "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason :
"That all men are by nature equally free and independent, and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety."
The text of the second section of the Declaration of Independence reads:
"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
By integrating large numbers of Muslims into our society isn't our government violating the spirit of the type of nation our founding fathers intended for us? How is integrating a faith that is bent upon murder, mayhem and domination as one of its central themes conducive to the sort of society our founding fathers intended to create? Does the freedom of religion supersede the foundation of our society? Seems if you consider Islam a religion the two are at odds with one another. At some point we'll have to fix that, because Islam and "We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." don't coexist geographically.
When he landed for a transfer in the Netherlands, he was in the neutral zone. There are no thoro checks done on passengers in the airports once they are in the transfer zone. [blueRaven]
in Singapore, for example, passports and boarding cards are rechecked in the transfer area (which you call the neutral zone).
The airlines controls the point of entry to the plane so there is no reason that this should not occur for all US-bound flights.
But yes, the passport story is not independently confirmed as yet.
Can we confirm that he had no security check at Schipol? I find it hard to believe that one just gets off one plane and hops on a connector without another check. On my recent trip we connected through Hong Kong and we had to go through a rigorous security check, even though we never left the "secure transfer" area.
Well said, ethoman. America and Islam are incompatible. The former is about greatness and freedom and real possibility and the latter is about pseudo-greatness, repression and the extinction of the possible. And yes, our government is doing us harm by bringing more Muslims into America but then it has usually been quite possible to despise one's government while loving one's country.
I would want to know when the father made the report and to whom. If this report was just made recently by the father, I would be suspicious. His son had been involved in this stuff for years, and his father knew it. Daddy would probably not want to be on the skillet if his son actually engaged in an attack. Finally, had the father cut off his son's financial assistance once he had become suspicious of his activities?
BREAKING FOX NEWS NOW:
The same Northwest/Delta flight#253 has had another incident occur from Amsterdam to Detroit this morning
No details yet-- there is a Nigerian man in custody
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,581232,00.html
This story should be tagged 'tiny minority of extremists'. /sarc/
From the article: "The larger terrorism watch list contains more than 500,000 names".
Then there's the 'no fly' list, of 4000.
This guy came from the 'watch list', not the 'no fly' list. He attempted to carry out a jihad raid; he was all ready to become a Muslim murder- 'martyr', and only the failure of his device plus the swift response of some passengers, prevented him from murdering 200+ people.
How many others of the 'more than 500 000' are *just like him*? Just waiting for their orders and/ or waiting for their chance?
500 000 people is a pretty big standing army.
"Don't forget that the department of Homeland Security, is now working under the Commander in Chief of the fifth column, Husain Obama."
You mean, the Department of Homeland Stupidity. Hi Janet - how're you doing, you ignorant PC idiot. How's that "Man-Made Incident" doing? Oops, excuse me, I meant Islamic Terrorism, the REAL NAME.
And, the Mohammedan our president spells his Islamic name "Hussein."
"...visored helmets in the overhead compartment."
You do have a talent for creating the hilarious image, Hesperado. I love it.
Thanks filthykafir, I'll keep 'em coming!
I can't think of a more fitting end to the life of an oil tick than to be blown up by someone with a bomb in his ass.
Blue Raven wrote:
He was flying from Nigeria to Chicago via Amsterdam. When he landed for a transfer in the Netherlands, he was in the neutral zone. There are no thoro checks done on passengers in the airports once they are in the transfer zone. The problem occurred in Nigeria.
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This is an excellent point, and one I had considered. How many flights, everyday, come into the civilized West from third-world countries with poor security—or much, much worse—Muslim-majority countries with large populations which are entirely sympathetic to Jihad terrorism?