A few weeks ago Pamela Geller started an initiative to have people send Christmas cards to Rifqa Bary, the girl who converted from Islam to Christianity and fled from her Ohio home in fear for her life, and is now in foster care in Ohio while authorities decide whether or not she is going to be returned home to the father who she says threatened to kill her.
Christmas cards -- who could object? Only someone whose heart is three sizes too small -- like an attorney from the unsavory and thuggish Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations. "CAIR Attorney Demands Ban and Seizure of all Christmas Cards sent to Rifqa Bary (Bumped)," from the Jawa Report, December 11:
In a stunning development in the ongoing legal saga of Muslim-turned-Christian convert Rifqa Bary, the parents' attorney, Omar Tarazi, filed a motion with the Franklin County courts last week moving to ban on all Christmas cards being sent to Rifqa through her attorneys, and demanding the seizure from her of all Christmas cards that she might have already received. And yet her parents still make representations to the media that they intend to honor and respect her Christian faith, while their attorney files sealed motions stating that Christmas cards are "dangerous to her health and safety".This news and a copy of the motion were provided to me from a source inside CAIR, who noted that CAIR has raised funds for the Bary's legal jihad to have the courts return the 17 year-old to her allegedly abusive Muslim family....
The court will hear Tarazi's motion for the ban and seizure of all of Rifqa's Christmas cards on December 22nd.
As President Obama said in Oslo, "Make no mistake: Evil does exist in the world." We shouldn't be surprised by this sinister move to confiscate Christmas cards. The Quran says, "Allah is the supreme Plotter." (Surah 3:54) "They plotted, but Allah also plotted. Allah is most profound in His machinations." (Surah 8:30) "Those who have gone before them also schemed, but Allah is the master of all scheming." (Surah 13:42)
The Bary family attorney could have countered the Christmas card campaign by urging Muslims to send Rifqa Bary cards commemorating Eid. The only problem with that, however, is that it would put Islam on the same playing field with Christianity, and Islamists well know that in such a marketplace of ideologies, Islam would end up in the trash bin.
Did not realize that Christmas cards could be so powerful and dangerous to the islamists. guess those Christmas trees, elves, Santa Claus are real scary, you know all that Peace on Earth mock Muhammud's storylines of raping, stealing, torture and body part removals.
Is this the news had already been here?
"Spread of Islam feared by 3 out of 4 Germans" http://www.thelocal.de/society/20091211-23879.html
And since when does a state court have the authority to interfere with delivery of the United States Mail? Rifqa has not been found guilty of any crime, nor is she serving a prison sentence.
How does anyone know that an envelope contains a Christmas card unless one opens it? And isn't opening other people's mail a criminal offense? It might be nice for the feds to indict the Ohio court and Ohio children's services for tampering with the mail.
Or just send her a "Season's Greetings" or "Happy Holidays" card.
Who do these fascists think they are? Her rights are being violated on a daily basis and now these oppressive evildoers are taking away her mail?
Maybe we should be sending Christmas cards to CAIR...
I can't imagine what their reasoning to the judge must be. How can she not be free???? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND.
I am not sorry for shouting. I am so mad.
"How the Mujaheddin Stole Christmas"
PLEASE NOTE:
If you haven't yet sent a card to Rifqa, the correct zip code is
43210
The last two digits are switched on some of the pages at Pamela Geller's site where she gives the address. Again, that zip code is
43210
The rest of the address, as far as I know, is as Pamela Geller has it:
Rifqa Bary
c/o Angela Lloyd
255C Drinko Hall
55 West 12th Avenue
Columbus, OH
You can see my posts on Rifqa at
www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net
under my author name at the right to see that I'm on the up-and-up and fighting for Rifqa. An alert reader pointed out the switched digits in the zip code.
Lydia McGrew
PLEASE NOTE:
If you haven't yet sent a card to Rifqa, the correct zip code is
43210
The last two digits are switched on some of the pages at Pamela Geller's site where she gives the address. Again, that zip code is
43210
The rest of the address, as far as I know, is as Pamela Geller has it:
Rifqa Bary
c/o Angela Lloyd
255C Drinko Hall
55 West 12th Avenue
Columbus, OH
You can see my posts on Rifqa at
www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net
under my author name at the right to see that I'm on the up-and-up and fighting for Rifqa. An alert reader pointed out the switched digits in the zip code.
Lydia McGrew
Christmas cards are dangerous to her health and safety?
Muslim projection.
Just because they like to send letterbombs and envelopes covered in anthrax (or baby powder, to make it look like anthrax, to strike fear in the heart of the infidel), they think someone's going to do that to Rifqa? Well, one of their fellow Muslims might try to do so.
And how dare they take away her Christmas cards? If she's a "child" (under the law), then what kind of monster denies a child her Christmas cards?
Sharia in action right in the good ol' US of A. :(
CAIR Attorney Demands Ban and Seizure of all Christmas Cards sent to Rifqa Bary
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I'm just stunned. I am going to pick up some Christmas cards today—for people for whom my standard cards won't do. I was going to try to find a particularly hopeful card for Rifqa.
The *only* bright spot I can find in this is that Rifqa must be receiving *a lot of cards*. Perhaps, even if she doesn't get a chance to see them, she will be able to learn how many cards caring people have been sent.
If someone had written the Rifqa Bary case as fiction, it would likely have been criticized as too melodramatic and not credible—a touch like banning her from receiving Christmas cards wouldn't have seemed believable at all.
I'm going to send that card after all.
"Did not realize that Christmas cards could be so powerful and dangerous to the islamists."
Christmas cards are simply symbolic of the larger message of the Cross. If the Cross had no ability to change lives for the better, why would Muslims (and their enablers such as the ACLU) get so upset? For all their false bravado, Muslims do understand that their so-called faith is especially brittle. An ideology that can only be "protected" time after time with brute force is one not worth defending. All ideas and ideals must be able to withstand reasoned criticism if they are to be accepted and deemed worthy of respect.
It's ok to send a Postcard though, right?
A nice Postcard from Salisbury Cathedral would be perfect!
Salisbury Cathedral
Does Rifqa even know that she's American Anti-Dhimmi of the year? If she can't receive Christmas cards, how can she receive her award?
No, the cards are dangerous to her health and safety because every one is an invitation to kill her by a Muslim who takes the death penalty for apostasy seriously.
WTH Alert! ...What Thuggish Hypocrites!!! ...grrr
Hopefully this Grinch-like move with come back and bite CAIR and the CAIR attorney in the BUTT-TOX! ...as it only serves to reveal just how small'n petty and ridiculous they are; and hopefully the courts will also take note of this looney attempt to rob Rifqa of generous friendship from others, and the Joy that these cards will bring.
Thanks to Pamela for starting this Christmas card initiative for Rifqa! ...what a great idea :)
I'm curious upon what legal basis is this motion being filed? That Christmas cards could unduly influence the case? I'm not sure but this motion strikes me as flimsy and extremely desperate. Silly too. I expect this motion to be dismissed forthwith come December 22nd but one can never know for certain what a particular judge will do. Interesting too to once again see how insecure, how defensive, followers of Islam really are.
If I thought about sending a card before, I definitely
will not now. I have not idea what this CAIR appointed
lawyer will do with this list of addresses.
Agreed, Wellington! ...this is very silly; and I think you're right, and that this motion will be dismissed. And no doubt CAIR will become the laughingstock of the courts, as well.
I'll send one, but I'm not including a return address.
"I have no idea what this CAIR appointed
lawyer will do with this list of addresses."
Excellent point, Silent_rage!
Christmas cards are dangerous to her health and safety?
That is going too far and it only show not only what liars they are but how evil they are.
I wonder what legal action is being taken on her part to prevent this. It seems to violate our First Amendment but we all know our wonderful constitution is being thrashed not just by groups like CAIR but also the Progressives or neo commies and the neo cons. When will the American people wake up and put this before their favorite sports team or TV idol. It is no wonder this is happening the Rifqa Bary. I wrote a letter to the Ohio Governor and I encourage others to do so likewise. Just google or yahoo it!!
Not enough people, even Christians, are taking this serious. I see the long-term impact!!
If she receives Christmas cards, this means she is a Christian and Islam can't have that!
Hey, how about Hannakah cards?
Repeated from my post on Pamela Gellers ATLAS SHRUGS
Juvenile Ohio Law 2151.32 Selection of custodian.
"In placing a child under any guardianship or custody other than that of its parent, the juvenile court shall, when practicable, select a person or an institution or agency governed by persons of like religious faith as that of the parents of such child, or in case of a difference in the religious faith of the parents, then of the religious faith of the child, or if the religious faith of the child is not ascertained, then of either of the parents."
I know Pamela has visited this Juvenile case law requirement in the past few weeks but has it been fully answered by Margaret Shirk, a Franklin County Children Services Board caseworker who appears to be assigned or at least has access to Rifqa's Case?
See the article below dated Dec 1st where Margaret Shirk comments on Rifqa Bary's determination to not have contact with either her parents or her brothers. She has been adamant about not returning to the home of her parents.
Apparently Margaret Shirk has either put this information out to the local media on what Rifqa is saying to her or the local media made requests to her and was given answers by Margaret Shirk. If this is the case and the supporters of Rifqa's plight have been denied this information--Ques: Could we go through a media outlet that will get answers from Ohio Case workers such as Margaret Shirk? Is she getting Christmas Cards? Is her desire to be recognized as a Christian being honored as pertains to
Juvenile Ohio Law 2151.32 Selection of custodian?
Read article below:
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/12/01/rifqa-bary-plan-filed.html
The zip code has been fixed now at Pamela's site on the various pages, so don't worry about it. It's the same now as the one I give above.
Please send your cards. This should make us _more_ determined to do so. Heck, it almost makes me want to send _another_ card.
I will not submit.
If I remember correctly from the rules that Pamela sent us to at the Juvenile Court site; cards and letters must have a return address on them to be accepted. What happened to privacy laws? How can CAIR or her parents'lawyer and therefore CAIR have the right to get the mail of an individual? That would not be legal. If not given to Rifqa it would have to be destroyed or returned to sender. Nobody but Rifqa has the right to her mail.
Just like Grinch, CAIR certainly does have a small heart -- and mind too, for that matter. But I hold out ZERO hope that CAIR's wilthing heart will grow 3 sizes larger in a single day like the Grinch's heart did ...in fact, CAIR's soulless heart will only shrink over time into the dark, dank and sinister void of Islam.
Where none of the other testimony or reports about the nature of Islam and the nature of the threat to Rifqa from her family and the Muslim community were able to get through to the various government employees or court personnel involved perhaps the reaction of the Muslims to these Christmas cards will, or at least it should.
"Christmas cards are dangerous to her health and safety?"
Unfortunately all of the cards should probably be checked before allowing her to look at them since Muslims could send laced cards.
Eurgh, I don't like that. Is CAIR trying to get the names and addresses of sympathetic people?
I suppose one could enter in a fake return address. Mine would look kind of fake anyway, but I still don't want them to have it, or even by chance entering in a real address the might put someone else in the stew.
To silent_rage, et al.
I wasn't going to send a card, but will definitely do so now. And I will feature my return address in as bold a script as John Hancock's signature on the Declaration of Independence. If we don't stand up for our principles who will?
With respect,
Rick
That's great in theory, Rick, but some of us may well have security concerns.
Not all of us are American, and not all of us can have guns.
We have been sending cards and Christmas vignettes since Advent began.
I wonder what CAIR will do with our address, names, and photos of the family.
Perhaps I will have a lawsuit.
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Someone could put their enemy's name and address on a card and then let their home get firebombed.
That is kind of like what the Muslims do in Islamic lands, they falsely accuse their Muslim enemies or Christians or other minority groups of anti-Islamic activity in order to get the Jihadists to attack them or kill them. What a sick political system Islam is. They even falsely report one another to the American troops trying to clean things up over there, that is why it is such a total waste of time doing anything with or for them.
I guess this is where the rubber hits the road.
How brave *are* we?
Safety in numbers, people.
The more of us send cards - honestly, it should be thousands and thousands! - then realistically, the risk to any individual within the flock does not seem to me to be particularly high.
I guess an alternative, for those who live in or near large Mohammedan colonies and are therefore afraid that a hitman *might* be sent out, would be to send the cards to Rifqa's friend Mr Jivanjee (I think Pam Geller knows how to reach him); he could then display them at the rally and explain to the news media that each has been sent in support of Rifqa, by ordinary citizens who believe she is in real danger because of her apostasy from Islam.
But in the end: all of us have to stand up, out in the open, and be counted. The more of us do it together, the better.
Please, if someone here is planning to be at the rally on 22 December: take along an Aussie flag and if asked why you're waving it, say it represents an Australian who knows and cares about Rifqa. I am sure our UK posters would be equally happy for flags to be waved to represent *their* presence: imagine the rally with not only American flags but St George flags, St Andrews cross, Union Jack, Aussie flag, Canadian maple leaf, the Italian and French flags, the Indian flag, the Israeli flag - each one representing a citizen of that country who is on Rifqa's side but who cannot afford to fly to America to be at the rally in person.
Yeah, I think we all need to send the ATTORNEY some thoroughly religious Christmas cards . . . and Hannukah cards, and any other non-muslim religious symbology in card form. Let's see what kind of "health and safety" issues they cause for the lawyer.
Actually, that's an excellent idea - the cards would be in good hands with Mr Jivanjee, I think, and he would probably find a place to save them for Rifqa for when she may enjoy them.
"If I remember correctly from the rules that Pamela sent us to at the Juvenile Court site; cards and letters must have a return address on them to be accepted."
I missed that in the rush to get the card out before the last posting dated from the UK. Also I did't want Rifqa to feel obliged to reply, I just wanted her to know she was in my prayers. I will just have to send another card tomorrow.
It is good (in a funny sort of way) to see how such a simple and kind act as sending a Christmas card to a stranger can get Muslims so incensed. It just demonstrates so clearly the pure evil and extraordinary insecurity of their so-called religion.
The mind-blowing and absurdly sublime idea that God became an infant born in a stable and that Christians believe this drives Muslims CRAZY. Allah is remote and big and SCARY - Allah can't become a little human baby, that's impossible...
Oh, wait a minute Muslim friend, you just told me the limits of your 'God' and what he can and cannot do. BLASPHEMY.
At the age of 17, can't she have herself declared "emancipated" or whatever? How long until she turns 18? At that age, the whole issue is moot, isn't it? I assume then she'd have to apply for asylum as a non-citizen? Or is she a citizen?
This is ridiculous. This lawyer should be disbarred for this. He should explain WHY Rifqa is having her freedom of speech rights and ability to contact the outside world taken away from her. What criminal act did she commit?
At the age of 17, can't she have herself declared "emancipated" or whatever? How long until she turns 18? At that age, the whole issue is moot, isn't it? I assume then she'd have to apply for asylum as a non-citizen? Or is she a citizen?
Well I've already sent her a Christmas card and I live a couple of blocks from a mosque in an area heavily populated by muhammedans. So, I guess I'm a sitting duck.
Well I already sent her a Christmas card. I live a couple of blocks from a mosque in an area heavily populated by muhammedans. So, I guess that makes me a sitting duck for any potencial muhammedan violence.
Do Christians in your area still decorate their homes for Christmas? It would be interesting to know how many Christians in Muslim areas don't decorate to avoid Muslim attacks. That probably isn't happening in America yet but there are most likely areas in Europe that any Christian would really make themselves a target putting up lights.
Another grotesque action driven by the grotesque belief system Islam.
I despise it and the Muslims and non-Muslims that defend this crap rather than confront it.
This motion must be dismissed and strongly condemned by that judge. This motion is clearly unconstitutional and all court cost must be paid by these monsters.
What if it's a UNICEF practically non-denominational Christmas card, with most of the proceeds going, as so often directed at the U.N., to causes dear to Arab and Muslim hearts?
I think it's time to call county services and burn up their phone lines on this one.
As far as the return address, I sent Rifqa a Thanksgiving card, put my return address on it and also wrote it inside the card, just in case Rifqa wanted a pen pal. It was not returned.
The idiot attorney just filed the motion so I don't think anyone has them except either a) Rifqa or b) the girl whose address we're sending them to. As far as being afraid of someone who doesn't need my address I heartily say, SCREW THEM. I refuse to be afraid living in the U S of A and if they want to start something I'll be happy to sick the FBI on them and send an email out that I will make sure goes viral. In fact, maybe we ought to start that now, letting folks know that there is a 17 year old girl who is being treated worse than a convicted felon (who gets his mail.) Doesn;t this just prove what we've been saying, that her parents are abusive and she has a perfect, logical right to be afraid of them?
ebonystone from above...And since when does a state court have the authority to interfere with delivery of the United States Mail?
My thoughts exactly...I'm a little late and a dollar short so you beat me to it...
How can they do this, you ask? Well, in the United States, parents have a great deal of authority over minor children. She is still a minor, by about eight months.
Still, I can't believe the judge will permit the confiscation of Christmas cards. If she were younger, it would be easier to imagine a judge going along. Parents are generally allowed to control such things, up to a point anyway. But approaching 17 and a half years old?
It certainly makes the lawyer look utterly ridiculous. In fact, it makes him look like some kind of fanatical Muslim who is acting out of the social compulsions of a desperate shame- and honor consciousness, rather than out of a sense of self-knowledge, individuality, and autonomy.
And it does appear to give the lie to the parents' claim they will permit Rifqa to practice her new faith. This attempt by the parents' attorney should all by itself lose the parents' whole case. Rifqa is simply too old for the parents' behavior to have even a semblance of justification.
But I suspect the legal system will avoid taking a stand in this case, and instead will stall until Rifqa reaches 18, at which point the case will be dismissed. Much easier not to take a stand, especially when the outcome wanted by most of the Americans who are paying attention -- Rifqa's liberty -- can be achieved without direct, risky, offense to Muslims. All they have to do is stall for a few months, and avoid in that way whole heaps of trouble.
It is my understanding that mail sent to FCCS Foster Care Children is normally screened. This is probably a good thing. I would hope that any hate mail sent c/o Rifqa's GAL is withheld and reported. It would also be terrible if she was contacted by a pedophile. With the publicity that this case has garnered, I'm sure there are some loons coming out the wood work to cause problems. I think we can all support censoring this type of mail.
Unfortunately, the Bary's attorney isn't requesting that her mail be screened and all threatening material be dealt with. No, he's concerned about Christmas cards! He also mentions letters from hate site members like Atlas Shrugs. (I guess he doesn't follow Pam's site very well.) He expresses concerns that she is receiving letters from adults who aren't on an "approved list" yet to be determined. Why isn't he demanding that the list be finalized?
His true colours and the Barys are beginning to show!
Now for the conundrum, do I send the gift card I bought w/ her card or save it until after the hearing. I don't want CAIR to have her Christmas gifts along w/ her cards. I also know FCCS relies on donations to provide Christmas gifts for their children. Thoughts anyone???
I guess CAIR knows about the Christmas cards because their attorneys represent the parents but I don't see how anyone could deny Rifqa the right to receive mail. It seems to me that this outrageous demand stems from CAIR's refusal to acknowledge that she is no longer a muslim. I don't know if there is anything in the abstruse legalese of islam that abrogates the conversion of a minor but hell, if islam considers a nine year old girl a marriageable adult, Rifqa is well beyond the status of a minor, she's a spinster.
This pathetic and overbearing demand looks really bad for CAIR and company because it screams female subjugation and islamic intolerance, and Rifqa isn't even a muslim! Christmas cards might offend Rifqa's muslim family and muslim antagonists at CAIR, but they are harmless greeting cards! Another possible motive is that they don't want her to know how many people are supporting her, praying for her, and advocating on her behalf. I'm going to send her another card, this time with a note.
Bouvir: at the very worst it should be sent back to you. There should be no reason for CAIR or anyone else to end up with the gift, unless it's something illegal.
Anyway, if they do something to the mail before can get approval of the judge at the hearing then that is theft AND tampering with the postal service. The second is a federal offense, punishable for at least 5 years in prison and I beleive a $250,000 fine.
I wouldn't put it past CAIR to do such a thing.
"Margaret Shirk, a Franklin County Children Services Board caseworker who appears to be assigned or at least has access to Rifqa's Case..."
Margaret Shirk!!!??? A fiction writer would be castigated by his editor for making that up and putting it in his story.
She's in Ohio, if she could escape, Canada (Widnsor, Ont) is pretty close. They allowed in a bunch of Mexicans not long ago).
Here, since she is over 16, she can live wherever she wants; I moved out at 16, and no one could do anything about it.
Only her immigration status might be in question, but being under 18, she might be in a kind of limbo.
Yes, she came from the US, but is a citizen of another country. Now, I once had, for neighbours, two sisters from Nicaragua, who had been low-level government clerks for the Sandanistas. They did, however, land in the US first, and were refused, coz their husbands were apparently killed by Contras. They were given asylum here, in Toronto, and all the benefits given to refugees; this was the late 1980s. (They were awesome upstairs neighbours, btw).
And yeah, I'd rather have Sandanistas for neighbours than Muslims. But anyway, if they could do it, so might she be able to.
My father every year always plays Santa Claus in December till Christmas for the local shopping Centre.
One interesting observation he has made more and more as more Muslims enter our society is that NONE of them want their children to be photographed next to Santa.
He says that many "Muslim" Children go up to him on stage and their overweight Hijabed veiled mothers call them back in Arabic not to go there as it is an anti islamic infidel cultural custom. Most of these people are newly arrived Somali, Sudanese and Eritrean people. Their children (innocent) want to intergrate but are discouraged.
Ohioans will be watching the ruling of Judge Gill. If he favor's CAIR and restricts Rifqa's [and our] First Amendment right, he will not find himself elected to the bench again.
Done with this crap.
And all this opportunistic legalistic jockeying helps Rifqa Bary how?
Remember King Solomon and the conflict with two mothers claiming one child? If Jesus Christ had some input on this do you think he'd recommend sending a salvo of birthday cards celebrating his birth to this young girl caught in 'zugzwang'? Somehow, I'm guessing he'd go with another plan.
I just mailed a card. If you have not, mail one now. If you have, mail another and encourage your friends to do so. Even those who have "Christmaphobia" could at least send her a letter of encouragement.
Lary9, I don't know who you are, but this isn't "opportunistic legalistic jockeying." This poor girl has been isolated from all Christian encouragement. All indications point to her parents attempting to use the FCCS to pressure her to return to Islam and return to them. They are trying to break her by keeping her under, in essence, house arrest, isolating her from those who love her, making her feel helpless and hopeless, and keeping her from receiving Christian fellowship.
In my Christmas card I sent her a message that the Body of Christ is praying for her. I wrote to her as I would have written to a persecuted Christian under a totalitarian government, to assure her of her union with her Christian brothers and sisters all over the country and even the world, to assure her that we are lifting her up in prayer, and to give her Scripture verses regarding Jesus' not leaving her alone. The Bible tells us to exhort and encourage one another, and Christians have known for a long time--approximately 2,000 years--that this is especially important for our brothers and sisters in Christ under persecution for their faith.
_That_ is what this Christmas card campaign is about, in my opinion. It is to tell her that she is not alone, to break in on her imprisonment and let her hear a voice from outside the walls, to strengthen and uplift her heart.
If you can't get that, I feel sorry for you. Sheesh.
When I addressed the my card I will admit that I had a sense of foreboding and to be completely honest I still do. Hopefully most of that is due to paranoia. a lot is at stake in what seems to outsiders a minor matter. I want for Rifqa peace but not the peace of submission or the peace of the grave. I'm sorry if this is too heavy a note.
I started off my Christmas letter this year with the story of Rifqa. I felt that it defined in some way my whole year I haven't heard back from anyone about it yet but it is still early.
In reply to Think Thrice
I live in an apartment coplex and people don't decorate that much anyway, lack of space being the main factor. And demographics also play a role, muhammedans being the majority of residents.
What I can say is this: there's a Jewish Community Center around a block from that mosque I was telling about my previous post. The jewish community is very important and live in more affluent subdivisions. But the businesses around the area don't carry Hanukah decorations any longer.
Like three years ago you could find menorahs, tops,Hanukah theme wraping paper etc. But not now. Gee, I wonder why!
This is for Lydia..
I am in complete agreement with you...we should by all means send to Rifqa notes and Christmas cards showing to her our solidarity as Children of God...Christians. And to show her our support. If Believers do not make bold and fearless moves in times like these, then we might as well give up and go home..and eventually lose all we hold dear.
God does not give to us a spirit of fear, but of power and of a sound mind.
What is it Beck shows to us everyday? Question with boldness. Hold to the truth. Speak without fear. Or something like that.
All Americans need to eventually take the stand against Islam. We have a common enemy...right now he powers Islam. Christians, only in the name of Jesus, need to "resist the devil and he will flee."
We need to pray for those who persecute us..and to pray for our enemies that they may be saved.
What about non-Christians? Will Christians murder those who do not convert to Christianity? I think we all know the answer to that. Will Muslims murder those who do not convert to Islam? Again, I think we all know the answer to that.
Another question...If a woman was walking home down a dark street late at night,would she be safer to encounter a group of Muslim males, or a group of Christian males?
hello.
It's high time for God's people to rise and stand. Lydia, may God be with you.