Iraq: Three dead in jihad attacks on Christian churches

Now that the Americans and Jews are pretty much out of the picture, Mahoundians can get down to the real business of attacking Christians...It's a popular sport in several Islamic counties...

adherents of the vile mindset, sanctioned by Sharia and the singular example of Muhammad, can only defile, raze, pillage and destroy.

these raiders certainly cannot tolerate anything but what is encouraged by the limited perspective of Islamic writers and their mouthpieces. they can't tolerate;their "religion" won't allow it. adherents have no inner strength to stop themselves from such destruction; their god doesn't grow, develop, nurture character.

the moral equivalence enthusiasts and their drives to bring deceptive "interfaith understanding" to the world, can only lie about the persecution of Christians and it's relation to these set minds.

Christian and Jewish presence will never be tolerated in lands controlled by the mosque. gives one cause to wonder why we tolerate the mosque anywhere?

In the attack on the church of Saint George three people were killed: a Chaldean Christian and two Muslims, others were injured.

1 infidel and 2 (unwitting) martyrs. A win/win for allah, most merciful, most compassionate.

Tu Quoque all over the place with one, two, three or more apologists for Islam. Quite something.

What's next? I suppose the practitioners of this phenomenon will now demand that until members of MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving), and the northern California chapter of Hadassah, and the Scottish-Rite Masons of Indiana, and Mrs. Clancy's kindergarten class in Granby, Massachusett, all denounce the KKK before anyone in this country has a right to criticize, or even discuss, the incessant Muslim murders of helpless Christians (and other non-Muslims) all over Dar al-Islam, where they can be assured of going unpunished, or almost so.

"practitioners of this phenomenon" is not English. Sorry. Haste makes not only for waste, but for all kinds of embarrassment. Must slow those flying fingers down.

It appears that the Mohammedan dementor, 'loveverybody' alias '45ch' alias (today) 'ddafan' (too cute! - *puke*), alias goodnessknowswhatnext, has assumed a new mask and is right back in here peddling his nonsense and lies.

Marisol!

Time for Whack-a-Mole!

"The Ku Klux Klan is composed entirely of white, Anglo-saxon, Christian American citizens, both male and female, who believe that their race and religion are superior to those of people of other colors and religions." --from a poster above

However, the converse that the poster is attempting to use, viz. that the population of white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian American citizens, both male and female is comprised entirely of Ku Klux Klan members, is patently false. KKK members are widely, very widely, held in disrepute and are as liable before the law for any criminal actions as any other group of malefactors. This is the difference between Western law, striving to preserve the rights of all, and Moslem-based law, in which minorities exist at the whim of Moslems.

I am very, very weary of 45ch/ loveverybody/ ddafan and his nonsensical and pigheaded reliance on tu quoque repeated ad nauseam.

The attacks on Christian churches, in Mesopotamia, by Arab supremacist Muslims, which are not merely a phenomenon of the early 21st century, but have happened in every century since Islam first entered and conquered that region, are drearily similar to the attacks on Christians (and also upon Buddhists and Buddhist temples, upon Jews and Jewish synagogues and shrines - Tomb of Joseph, anyone?, and upon Hindus and Hindu temples [see Sita Ram Goel's three fat volumes, very close print on thin pages, listing the Hindu sites destroyed by Muslims since said Muslims first entered the subcontinent and began mass murdering, looting, raping, enslaving and vandalising) that have been carried out by pious mainstream Quran-obeying Sunnah-imitating Muslims everywhere they have invaded and seized power; throughout the past 1400 years.

The KKK by comparison, if it claims to be Christian, is a heresy: a gross and grotesque heresy, its arrogant racial supremacism and dualistic race-based ethos incompatible (just like that of Nazism) with the gospel and with the doctrine of humanity held by all orthodox mainstream Christians. No mainstream Christian church recognises it as a valid group nor endorses its goals. It is of very recent invention (19th century) and is pretty much restricted both in numbers and in geographical scope; and although it terrorised and harmed many, its record is negligible by comparison with the mountains of corpses, the towers of skulls, the countless razed, robbed and desecrated sacred places, and the oceans of human blood offered up to the Arab war-god allah by the Arab supremacists of Islam.

To try to equate the highly-heretical and antithetical-to-Christ's-teachings KKK with the myriad completely-Islamically-orthodox jihad groups both ancient and modern that pullulate incessantly out of the sea of the Ummah, in purely devout scrupulous imitation of Mohammed, is sheer nonsense.

And the Mohammedtroll, which has in many previous postings under assorted titles, quite vociferously pretended to be a Christian, does not write *even one word* showing the tiniest bit of empathy with or interest in the persecuted and peaceful Christian martyrs of Iraq; and it conspicuously refuses even to accept that a significant number of Muslims, in Iraq, are doing evil to Christians, or that these acts of evil are perfectly in accord with the attitude toward Christians that is explicitly prescribed in many of the authoritative texts of Islam and their interpretations past and present, and that is 'acted out' not just in Iraq but in Egypt, Indonesia, Bangladesh and Pakistan, to name just a few places where Muslims, individually or in howling mobs, have attacked Christian individuals, groups, homes and churches.

Instead, the Mohammedtroll, or Dementor, robotically posts two pieces of boilerplate 'tu quoque' supposedly 'proving' that all Christians are just as bad as (or worse than) Mohammedans, plus a little propaganda piece intended to 'prove' that Muslims qua Muslims are nice to Jews (it does not: all it 'proves' is that *one* [nominal?] Muslim didn't act according to the extraordinarily venomous antisemitism hardwired into all the sacred texts of Islam, not to mention all the mainstream interpretations, and massively manifested in Muslim abuse of dhimmi Jews throughout the entire history of Islam).

Moses ben Maimon, who had lived and worked in various parts of dar al Islam, did not think that Jews had been well treated by Muslims (when he says 'Arabs' in the text which I will presently quote, his Letter to the Jews of Yemen, he is referring to *Muslim* Arabs):

"...the Arabs, who have persecuted us severely, and passed baneful and discriminatory legislation against us. . .

*Never did a nation molest, degrade, debase, and hate us as much as they* {my emphasis - dda}. . . .

'Although we were dishonored by them beyond human endurance, and had to put up with their fabrications,

'yet we behave like him who is depicted by the inspired writer: “But I am as a deaf man, I hear not, and I am as a dumb man that openeth not his mouth (Psalm 38: 14).

'Similarly our sages instructed/ us to bear the prevarications and preposterousness of Ishmael in silence….
'We have acquiesced, both old and young, to inure ourselves to humiliation, as Isaiah instructed us, “I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair” [Isaiah 50: 6].
All this notwithstanding, we do not escape this continual maltreatment which well nigh crushes us.
*No matter how we suffer and elect to remain at peace with them, they [i.e. the Muslims] stir up strife and sedition* {my emphasis - dda}.

Maimonides is showing, by the way, that *hundreds of years* of patient Jewish dhimmitude, motivated by a theologically dangerous paradigm that [forgetting the book of Job] interpreted *all* suffering as deserved punishment for sins and thus led to the *victims* blaming themselves for the cruelty of the conquering Muslim aggressors, had served not a whit to sate or to soften in any way the monstrous Arab/ Muslim appetite for domineering over, and behaving with aggression and cruelty toward, the Jews. Indeed, it seemed rather to have fed that appetite.

Indeed, the only realistic conclusion one can draw from the full sweep of 1400 years of Islamic history is this: that the more fully the dhimmi submits, *the crueller and more aggressive the Muslim becomes*. Appeasement may work with other cultural groups; in general, it *does not work* with Muslims, for the submission of the humiliated dhimmi becomes merely the invitation to the Muslim to bring the hammer even more heavily down upon him.

Moses ben Maimon wrote in AD 1200, to the Jews of Yemen, who were being more than usually cruelly persecuted and indeed subjected to forced conversion by the Sultan of the day.

There are, today, maybe 200 Jews left in Yemen, from a community whose history predated the Islamisation of the region by at least a thousand years.

The story of the murder of the Jewish teenager Sol Hachuel, by Muslims, in early 19th-century Morocco.

http://www.andrewbostom.org/content/view/26/48/

It is a peculiarly horrid story for the girl had a Muslim 'friend' who told the Muslim authorities, falsely, that Sol had converted to Islam; when Sol indignantly denied having ever done such a thing, and proudly confessed her Jewish identity and faith, she was accused by the Muslims of having apostasised (from the Islamic 'faith' to which she had never converted in the first place!). And so, after subjecting her and through her, her whole community, to an ugly succession of deliberately humiliating cruelties, the Muslims cut her head off, to punish her for her 'apostasy'; all because of the brazen and fiendish LIES of the Muslim female that little Sol had foolishly trusted!

(One finds, over and over, in the testimony that seeps out persistently from dar al Islam like blood from under Bluebeard's door, that Muslim attacks upon dhimmi individuals and communities are frequently motivated and 'justified' by brazen LIES, totally false and fabricated claims [sometimes only flimsy rumours] that this or that dhimmi has violated the dhimma in some way, and thus requires to be punished: e.g. in Pakistan today, there will be an accusation against a Christian or group of Christians, that they have 'desecrated the Quran', and this is used to justify a murder or even a full-scale mob assault with churches and houses burned; the same despicable procedure is used in Egypt by Muslims against the Copts).

The Mohammedan dementor above wants us to believe that everything in the garden was lovely for dhimmi Jews. (And would probably want us to believe that it was just peachy to be a dhimmi Christian, Zoroastrian [Mary Boyce would disagree with that one], Buddhist, Sikh or Hindu, also).

I spit on its contemptible lies.

I commend to any new readers here, Bat Yeor's and Andrew Bostom's encyclopedic compilations of text, history and testimony: from Bat Yeor, "The Dhimmi: Jews and Christians Under Islam", "The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam" and "Islam and Dhimmitude"; and from Andrew Bostom, "The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism" and "The Legacy of Jihad".

In the meantime, here - Dr Bostom's article 'Under Turkish Rule' - is an overview of the reality of the way in which Jews were treated by Turkish Muslims.

Part one:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/Read.aspx?GUID=68314118-6D77-4E06-B4D5-282AF4285BC9

Part two:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/Read.aspx?GUID=3CA6CAE4-04C9-4AC6-BA1C-08B047719A1A

And here is what a thoroughly-modern Francophone Muslim of the Ottoman Empire wrote about Christians. He originally wrote it *in French*, in a Muslim journal, "Le Mecherouttiete", edited by Sherif Pasha, in Paris, in August 1912:

Both Samuel Zwemer and Andre Servier remarked upon it. Zwemer described its author as 'one of the leading Moslems of Baghdad'. Baghdad, in what is now Iraq.

The article was called "The final word of Islam to Europe'.

‘For us in the world there are only believers {i.e. Muslims} and unbelievers {i.e. non-Muslims};

love, charity, fraternity toward believers;

contempt, disgust, hatred, and war against unbelievers.

‘Amongst the unbelievers *the most hateful and criminal are those who, while recognizing God, attribute to Him earthly relationship, give Him a son, a mother.

'Learn then, European observers, that a Christian of no matter what position, from the simple fact he is a Christian is in our eyes a blind man fallen from all human dignity* {my emphasis - dda}.'

'Our {the Muslim's} reasoning with regard to him {the Christian} is as simple as it is definitive. We say: the man whose judgment is so perverted as to deny the existence of a one and only God, and to make up gods of different sorts, can only be the meanest expression of human degradation; to speak to him would be a humiliation for our intelligence and an insult to the grandeur of the Master of the Universe.

"The presence of such miscreants among us is the bane of our existence;

"their doctrine is a direct insult to the purity of our faith;

"contact with them is a defilement of our bodies;

"any relation with them a torture to our souls."

This kind of thing becomes quite unsurprising when one discovers that there are many Quranic verses that explicitly forbid befriending non-Muslims (unless it is done feigningly and temporarily, out of expediency).

And the Hadith explicitly prescribes active bullying in everyday life, in things as mundane as what one does in the street:

“Do not initiate the greeting of salaam to a Jew or Christian,

*and if you meet them in the street, push them to the narrowest part of the road* {my emphasis - dda}.” - Sahih Muslim, 2167.

(Bad manners and bullying as sacred duty!).

The Mohammedtroll who has been busily spamming above in this thread and in many others over the past couple of months, can deny or excuse or try to distract from all these abhorrent aspects of Islam until he is black in the face, and he can spin like a whirling dervish; but it will make no difference whatsoever. I see what I see, in the texts and in monstrous Muslim conduct scrupulously mirroring those texts, all through past history and in the present day.

The Quran-Sira-Hadith teaches Muslims - over and over and over, in the strongest possible terms - to hate, despise and attack Jews qua Jews, and to hate, despise and attack Christians qua Christians (and every other non-Muslim for his or her very existence qua non-Muslim is viewed as a permanent standing insult to, and 'persecution' of, Muslims and Islam, and therefore as a sufficient casus belli) and with monotonous regularity a very great number of Muslims have despised, hated and attacked, as per their religious instructions. Far, far too great a number for us to pretend that their ideology is benign or of negligible effect and that therefore their presence in rapidly increasing numbers, within our societies, is something that can be safely ignored.

'Understanding the Islam in Islamic Antisemitism".

http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/39207/sec_id/39207

More by Andrew Bostom, on Islamic antisemitism:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/04/antisemitism-in-the-quran-motifs-and-historical-manifestations.html

(It should be noted that in the comments thread to Bostom's article on antisemitism in the Quran, a very important point was made about criticism of Jews in the Quran, as distinct from criticism of Jews in the Gospels, namely that:

"It would also be worthwhile to note that the anti-Jewish polemic of the Qu'ran is an outsider's criticism of the Jews. The "anti-Jewish" polemic of the New Testament, by contrast, if viewed from the standpoint of it authors rather than from a later Christian society, was intended by its authors as an "internal" polemic along the lines of the prophets".)

Finally:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/04/antisemitism-in-the-hadith-and-early-muslim-biographies-of-muhammad-motifs-and-manifestations.html