Thereby significantly increasing the attractiveness of getting arrested, as far as jihadis are concerned. This is also one of the dividends Khaled Sheikh Mohammed will enjoy from his civilian trial in New York. Absurd Britannia Alert: "Al-Qaeda 'terrorists' win right to hear secret evidence," by Duncan Gardham for the Telegraph, December 1 (thanks to all who sent this in):
Two men, alleged to be al-Qaeda terrorists, have won the right to hear the secret evidence against them or be released.Both men are in prison but if the government refuses to release the information they would be freed on bail with minimal restrictions.
One of the men, who can only be referred to as "U", is allegedly an associate of Osama bin Laden who was once a senior al-Qaeda instructor and one of the world's most wanted terrorists.
He was arrested in connection with separate plots to blow up Los Angeles airport and the Christmas market in Strasbourg and is said to have "direct links to Osama bin Laden and other senior al-Qaeda figures." He has already been released on bail and re-arrested.The other, "XC" is a 23-year-old Pakistani student who is said to be the "co-ordinator" behind a plot in Manchester last Easter that was "directed by al-Qaeda based overseas."
The Government is trying to deport him as a member of a "UK-based network involved in terrorist operational activity in the UK, most likely attack planning."
The ruling could also have an influence on the case of Abu Qatada, once described as Osama bin Laden's "ambassador in Europe" who was released on bail and then re-arrested after breaching his bail conditions.
The Home Secretary, Alan Johnson, said he was "surprised and disappointed" by the ruling and added: "My sole objective is protecting the public and this judgment will make that job harder....
No kidding, really?
oth men are in prison but if the government refuses to release the information they would be freed on bail with minimal restrictions.
It would be an absolute tragedy if, on their release, they were to be involved in a fatal car accident, a gas explosion at their residence or some other mundane incident. Possibly a mugging that was more violent that usual. I hear that knife crime is rampant in the U.K. right now.
Come on, MI5, let's see who's side you're on.
Is it just me, or is the world going truly mad........?
Hey n.a.palm, welcome to the party!
No, it's not going mad but certain elitist segments of society are.
We all need to do our part and make people accountable. Everything else will happen from there.
Are you aware that the black cop killer who killed 4 white policemen was a Muslim and a member of the NOI? He has been praised by his fellow Muslims who crowned him and “Lets celebrate brother Maurice Clemmons daring stand against white police terrorism…”
http://sheikyermami.com/2009/12/01/i-guess-we-need-more-interfaith-dialogue/
"Accused Al-Qaeda jihadis win right to hear secret evidence against them". Yeah, I understand you can only hear it when your head is under water. Why are there a bunch of MORONS holding poistions of importance in the world. Friggin retards one and all.
Terrorists in sneer quotes in the title...nice.
"...allegedly an associate of Osama bin Laden who was once a senior al-Qaeda instructor and one of the world's most wanted terrorists."
You have to explain who O.B.L. is? WTF!!
The closing paragraphs are equally unreal.
Simply disgusting!!
Do we really want a system that imprisons people indefinitely without even telling them what they are accused of?
Surely we can do better than this.
The right to trial by ones peers goes back to Magna Carta; why is it that these people can't be charged and why is there no evidence that could persuade a jury?
At least there could be an independent judicial committee to secretly review the evidence rather than a single advocate in these cases.
I'm not saying dangerous terrorists should be released, but obviously until they are charged and convicted they are merely suspects. Let there be a more honest way to deal with them and get the guilty ones lawfully punished.
Britain is a "modearte" islamic country in all but name - Islamic Republic of Bertanyastan - you have to admit, has a ring to it!
"Al-Qaeda 'terrorists' win right to hear secret evidence
Well, it won't be secret very long...Allah is alive and well in the UK...
From post above...Do we really want a system that imprisons people indefinitely without even telling them what they are accused of?
Sounds like the US mental health system, where people are incarcerated forever even though they probably committed no crimes...
These are not 'people' they are Islamic jihadi terrorists.
'People' can be reasoned with...Jihadi's have to be 'dealt' with...Trying to treat jihadi terrorists as 'people' is a self defeating ideology...That's the mistake of the entire liberal elite, including the courts. It leads to 'entitlements' such as this...
"Two men, alleged to be al-Qaeda terrorists, have won the right to hear the secret evidence against them or be released".
'Won the right'...An entitlement. A trial in New York
is another entitlement, followed by a long list of other entitlements. Jihadi terrorists should be 'dealt' with by the military, where 'entitlements' don't exist, or if they do are on a short list....Otherwise, if we view them as 'people' we can expect a circus and may even lose the case...
duh swami,
'These are not 'people' they are Islamic jihadi terrorists.'
If they have never been tried then they could be terrorists, undercover Christian missionaries, harmless eccentrics or the next Dalai lama for all we know.
We need to fight the people who would remove our constitutional rights to freedom, whether they wear Muslim garb or pinstripes.
Otherwise we are just doing the terrorists work for them.
I think we need to overhaul the judicial system so we convict more of the guilty, get rid of the human rights act and bring in the death penalty for terrorism. But this Government is taking short cuts because they refuse to admit their previous errors or the need to make good those errors. The judges are being blamed for the sins of New labour.
StephenA55 : If they have never been tried then they could be terrorists, undercover Christian missionaries, harmless eccentrics or the next Dalai lama for all we know.
Then let them be dealt with on the field of combat where they are 'detained' in the first place. One round through the temple and damn the lack of intel. We are assured by our Leftist elites that torture doesn't work so why even pretend to interrogate them?
Yes, bring back the 'take no prisoners' approach. Anything to keep the enemies of our country out of our legal system, which treats them like victims. Let the human rights lawyers who have been getting rich off the system find some real victims to represent. Such as apostates, or those Muslim women threatened with forced marriage or violence.