Treason. "Detained U.S. Nationals In Pakistan Say No Regrets On Planning Jihad Against U.S. Forces, Affirm: 'Martyrdom Is Our Aim; We Will Get Martyrdom If We Are Hanged,'" from MEMRI, December 22 (thanks to all who sent this in):
The five U.S. nationals detained recently by the Pakistani security forces have said that they do not regret planning attacks in connection with jihad against the U.S. forces in Afghanistan, according to a Pashtu-language newspaper...."Martyrdom is our aim. We will get martyrdom if we are hanged [executed]," Usman Anwar, a police investigative officer, quoted the detained U.S. nationals as saying, according to a report in the Pashtu-language newspaper Wrazpanra Wahdat.
Ramy Zamzam, one of the detained U.S. nationals, told interrogators that they had planned to obtain martyrdom but we did not succeed, adding that they do not regret organizing their plan for jihad....
Usman Anwar "Martyrdom is our aim"
So what stopped you fighting to the death, scumbag?
Once, just once, it would be awesome to see one of these jihadis say, "Holy sh!#. I can't believe what disgusting things I believed in! I've seen the light & I regret the whole thing. I renounce jihad. I renounce murder & violence. Non-Muslims should be able to worship as they please with no retaliation, no subjugation, and no forced conversion."
If you couldn't tell, I'm getting drunk tonight to convince myself this could actually happen some day.
"Martyrdom is our aim. We will get martyrdom if we are hanged [executed]," Usman Anwar, a police investigative officer, quoted the detained U.S. nationals as saying...
Dollars to doughnuts they change their tune once back in the USA.
"Martyrdom is our aim. We will get martyrdom if we are hanged [executed]...
How about they don't get executed...How about 100 Pakistani lashes, and then send them back to America to do serious time with Bubba...
Better don't send them back to the U.S., keep that scum out of Western countries. We don't know how to deal with them. Take the Chinesae as an example, they know how to tackle Mahoundians. And as long as we haven't learned from them...
Pakistan should just keep them in jail, where they will easily escape soon, only to get their martyrdom wishes...
Parents, friends, the Imam at the local mosque...all "shocked and horrified"...
But out of earshot of the press, one can only imagine the expressions of pride.
Just a side note.
Edith Piaf singing (english translation):
No! Absolutely nothing...
No! I regret nothing
Neither the good that I've done nor the bad
All this is much the same to me!
As areas of France are overrun by "disenfranchised youth". What amazing irony!
Anyone who murders others by suicide bombing could have their bits covered with pigs blood and buried in a secret location, not given back to the families. The outcry would be bad, but the suicide bombers would stop. No martydom, no paradise, no reason to suicide bomb.
How about they don't get executed? How about they be permanently exiled from America? I don't want to spend one dime of my tax dollars feeding those traitors. They wanted to war against America. Never let them come back. Let them live in the land of Islam - as best they can. If they want martyrdom there surely must be an islamic tribe they can fight against - one that doesn't measure up to their idea of what a good Muslim should be. Maybe they can fight the Saudi regime. Osama would love them. Wouldn't that be fun?
Nihad Awad, on the other hand, thinks special favors are owed to the Muslim parents of the Muslim Jihadists, and to him, Nihad Awad. But the Muslim parents reported their sons missing only because they were worried that, in darkest Pakistan, they might be killed (and not because they were worried about any Infidel victims). Nihad Awad himself, once he saw the video left by Rami Zamzam, knew it was incendiary, and he didn't dare advise the parents to say nothing, for two reasons. First, some of the parents were obviously so worried that they might well have gone to the FBI in any case, and might have told the FBI that he, Nihad Awad, had advised them against informing the FBI. Or, in the alternative, those parents and that video might all have been part of an elaborate sting operation, designed to test Nihad Awad and what he might advise or might do, and Nihad Awad can no longer be sure what the FBI knows, and how closely it is monitoring him, and how clever its sting operations might be, and he knows he, Nihad Awad of CAIR, having been so meretricious and so treasonous in the past, now has to assume the worst and watch his every step.
OK so what happens now? Are they sent back to the USA and do we now charge, try, and imprison.? I guess that's what has to be done. The time and the cost. What a waste.
Bizarre.. I just finished reading up on Alcatraz. You remember the "Birdman of Alcatraz" Robert Stroud? Anyway it's making tourist money but it sure looks like the right place for them,and others of their ilk,as it is now. Devil's Island..
Good place to die, or re-think their thoughts for awhile.Of course that would be much too harsh for them. Imagine the backlash from the muslims for prosecuting "brothers" for the crime of treason against the U.S.A.. Well then we'd know who's who then,wouldn't we?
I think what these kind of things show is that a nationality dosent come with the place you are born.Why should it.We dont "come from the earth" we come from a mother and a father, that belong to one particular culture,religion and ethnic group.Those people are not americans.Lke all the colombians, or ecuatorians, or peruvians being born here are not spanish.And it is not even a matter of two or three generations down the line.We have France to prove that doesnt work neither.
It is the personal conversion to the rules and ways of the country where one is born that makes you one.
We know it here very well in the Basque country.I was born here, but dont beleive a thing that this a different nation.THis basque provinces always belonged to the Kingdom of Castilla, the idea of this region being a nation apart didnt appear until well into the 19th century, with the romanticism wind blowing everywhere in europe.And then the socialist revolution from russia got behind all the separatists groups it could find to help itself in.So, no matter if i have been born here, I am not a Basque beacause I dont beleive in lies.I am a spaniard.
Likewise, all the millions of babies born to all the different ethnic mums in no matter what country will remain in heart and soul form their parents , or grand parents original land.Until everyone decides not to be so on a personal basis
"U.S. Muslims detained in Pakistan for jihad activity say they have no regrets over plotting jihad against U.S. forces" Article
As true practicing Muslims, they have a moral duty to plot Jihad against the U.S. This should be accepted as the norm for all Muslims.
Estas correcto, mi amigo. You have correctly described what we in America would term a melting pot. Hanging onto cultural novelty and traditions is one thing. All hail these things.
Separatism, multiculturalism, quashing of dominant cultures to create a vacuum. These things are anathema to nations and their sovreignty.
Politics and acculturation are decisions, not birthrights/birthburdens.