Baha’i leaders on trial in Iran

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Dangers to the Iranian state

“Using the courts as an instrument of religious persecution.” Islamic Tolerance Alert from the Islamic Republic of Iran: “Trial underway for Baha’i leaders in Iran,” from CNN, January 12:

(CNN) — Seven leaders of Iran’s Baha’i minority went on trial in Tehran Tuesday accused of spying for Israel, a charge their supporters say is motivated by religious discrimination.

Naaahh!! Couldn’t be!

The seven — two women and five men — are also accused of spreading propaganda against the Islamic republic and committing religious offenses, charges that can carry the death penalty….

They have been held at Tehran’s Evin prison since their arrests in March and May 2008. Their trial was delayed twice. Ala’i said it was because the Iranian regime had no basis for a case.

The U.S. State Department on Monday condemned Iran’s decision to try the leaders.

“Authorities have detained these persons for more than 20 months, without making public any evidence against them and giving them little access to legal counsel,” the department said in a statement.

Leonard Leo, U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom chairman, said his group is “extremely concerned about the fate of the seven” — who risk facing the death penalty.

“It appears that the Iranian government has already predetermined the outcome, and is once again using its courts as an instrument of religious persecution in blatant violation of international human rights law,” Leo said….

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  1. says

    I wonder if their guards permitted them to read the books of Bahai scriptures, and if the guards handled these scriptures with clean white gloves?

  2. says

    A picture paints a thousand words.
    You only need one glance to realise they are guilty of everything – and more !
    Western suits, no beards, provocative women flaunting themselves.
    Upon closer inspection, five of them have the hands (soon to be removed) of propagandists and licenitiousness.
    They will be taken from the Elvis prison, sentenced, and buried no doubt in Gracelands.
    Rock and Roll Iran !

  3. says

    This is the most civilized-looking group of Iranians I have ever seen”it came as little surprise to discover they were non-Muslims”and, sadly, even less to hear that they are imprisoned and persecuted.

  4. says

    I am a Bahá’í. Or rather, I was, but I’m going to be formally leaving the faith in a matter of weeks, primarily because the Bahá’í prohibition on civil disobedience and individual political action bars me from speaking openly about the jihad.

    The paramount Bahá’í principle is a belief in unity of humankind, and the taking of sides on any political issue or against any political leader, no matter how benign or objectionable their actions, is seen (erroneously and dangerously, if you ask me) as a manifestation of disunity. As such, individual Bahá’ís are not allowed to openly express public criticism of any government leader or their actions, much less organize against them”which means that, according to their own religious rules, there was almost no Bahá’í participation in the anti-fascist resistance in Europe, in Gandhi’s revolution in India, or in the civil rights or anti-apartheid movements. And, further,that there can be no open and honest Bahá’í critique of the Islamic theological roots of the jihad.

    The Bahá’í Faith abrogates all the violent and supremacist elements of Islam, but they still believe that Muhammad is a flawless Prophet of God and that the Qur’an in the Word of God, meaning that their analysis of the jihad issue has tended toward the Karen Armstrong-ish “it’s all a perversion” variety, The founder of the Bahá’í Faith himself condemned the Western critics of Muhammad, so there can be no real, useful Bahá’í scholarship on this issue, because it all starts from the mistaken assumptions that make the anti-jihad so hard to fight in general.

    Despite these problems, the Bahá’ís are a genuinely peaceful, compassionate, loving people, and the aggressive supremacist spirit in Islam is completely alien to their faith. As it is with the Ahmadiyya or the Ismailis, were all the Muslims in the world to become Baha’is, the jihad problem would disappear.

    These courageous seven will almost certainly be executed, but the Bahá’í scriptures teach that “death is a messenger of joy”, so they have almost certainly prepared themselves for martyrdom, just as the teenage heroine Mona Mahmudnizad and more than 20, 000 others have in decades past. I do not weep for them, because I know they’re prepared to meet their Fashioner and they’re destined to be seated at His right hand in His holy court. Their souls will be exalted in the next world.

    But it’s still an awfully sad thing. Still more that they are forbidden from speaking up on their own behalf. And the Muslim persecution of Bahá’ís is as serious a problem as any horrible treatment meted out to Christians, Jews, Hindus, or any of the other many and various Infidels”not only in Iran, where the systematic persecution is the most vicious, but in Egypt and Indonesia, where Bahá’í villages have been burned, and all across the Muslim world.

    God bless and keep them, and God strengthen all the fighters of the anti-jihad around the world. I’m only a student now, in my twenties, but I’m going to devote my life to this cause, even if my voice falls on the same deaf ears Robert’s and Hugh’s do, and Ibn Warraq’s and Tashbih Sayyed’s and Oriana’s did. Thanks for not forgetting the plight of the Baha’is, Robert. Speaking as only one person, it means a great deal to me. And thank you for the service you’re doing in the cause of liberty”it means a great deal to us all.

  5. says

    I do look at those women in the photo… so modestly dressed. No extremities. Just respect to woman (and human also) dignity. Something that is lost worldwidely nowadays. In the one side we have the burqas, in the other side our almost pornographic life style of Western societies… The middle way is lost.

    Of course… needles to say, I personally prefer our even pornographic societies. They give the freedom not to participate to their mainstream tendencies at least. Without freedom of choice humanity becomes deprived of one of its most essential elements.

    And… looking to this photo… a deep soul pervading melancholy… poor Persia… Such cultural heritage and yet… crushed under such barbarity.

    May God help those so suffering people…

  6. says

    Greetings,

    I write as a Baha’i with some additional perspectives to the above comments. It is a long commentary but the topic is a bit complex and there is a lot on the line. There are also some very powerful stories to tell.

    Yes we do believe that Muhammad is a true Messenger of God. I too have wrestled with the references to Holy War in the Qur’an and have come to a personal conclusion that Muhammad is speaking to a time and environment very foreign to our own condition. There were no significant governments, even in Rome and Constantinople. Warfare was constant in Europe, even more so in the Arabian Peninsula, maybe Narco-like gangs charging around just outside Mecca, looting and rampaging? Yes, the first several verses in Surah 9 is a call to war, but they are first a “four month call to peace” of the Mecca and surround tribes to honor the peace agreement that Muhammad had worked out in the last several years of interaction.

    Verse 9:29 would seem to be, and is admittedly traditionally, taken as a call to Jihad against the people of the Book unless they pay Jizyah and feel subdued. Again, a personal opinion that “might take a while to get much traction” is that it is interesting that warfare should be waged against those “who do not practice”. We will never know if the intent might also have been that peace loving and spiritual people of the Book should be treated respectfully and with peace. This was the intent of Muhammad’s Constitution of Medina, though I acknowledge that traditionally people would see 9:29 superseding that Constitution.

    Probably most challenging is the following verse from near the end of Muhammad’s Ministry:

    111. Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their good; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur’án: and who is more faithful to his Covenant than Allah? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.
    (The Qur’an (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 9)

    But is this verse that different from how US soldiers might prepare spiritually for battle? There was not much peace around Arabia and the World at that time?

    I have long been attracted to Ali’s efforts to promote peace in the face of obstinate rebellion and fighting only when backed into a corner. I wonder how Islam would of evolved if Ali had had a thirty year reign as Caliph, alas we will never know.

    Before moving on to Baha’i perspectives, a further line of thinking is that, Muhammad was as pacifistic as Christ for the first twelve years of his ministry in Mecca when he tried to call people away for bowing in worship to piles of stone. To this end he is very much in the tradition, as He himself maintains, of Abraham and Moses. If we condemn Muhammad we would also have to condemn Moses and the Israelite tradition of Joshua, or we accept that both are responding the exigencies of the time? Baha’is suggest that there are dramatic states of progressive change from one Messenger to another, and that social Teachings of the Messengers adapt to this change, but they all courageously step forward to proclaim there is one Eternal, Incomparable Spiritual Creator of existence.

    But all of this is a preface to an invitation to investigate with the same rigor with which you have examined Islam, the reality of the Bab’i/Baha’i claims to speak to the issue of Jihad in today’s World.

    Funky Child clearly speaks from a desire to eliminate the suffering of Baha’is that he knows, and the issues of Jihad, through the medium of civil disobedience and political change.

    My personal understanding of Baha’u’llah’s response to Jihad is quintessentially theological and spiritual. If it can be proven that the breath of the Word of God is again flowing over the planet, and the Power of God is clearly supporting and sustaining this effort, it creates a very different dynamic to this whole process and ultimately the question of Jihad itself.

    If I personally maintain that Jihad is no longer the Will of God for this day it means nothing to Mr. Bin Laden and probably few other Muslim scholars. If, however, it can be proven that the “Messenger of God for this day” were to state:

    “O people of the earth! The first Glad-Tidings which the Mother Book hath, in this Most Great Revelation, imparted unto all the peoples of the world is that the law of holy war hath been blotted out from the Book. Glorified be the All-Merciful, the Lord of grace abounding, through Whom the door of heavenly bounty hath been flung open in the face of all that are in heaven and on earth.  22 

    The second Glad-Tidings It is permitted that the peoples and kindreds of the world associate with one another with joy and radiance. O people! Consort with the followers of all religions in a spirit of friendliness and fellowship. Thus hath the day-star of His sanction and authority shone forth above the horizon of the decree of God, the Lord of the worlds.”
    (Baha’u’llah, Tablets of Baha’u’llah, p. 21)

    it puts things in a very different perspective. (All right, I hear you laughing at my “naiveté”. That you suspect Muslims will take a dim view of this claim? That you yourself might not find this a claim to consider? Before moving on to another webpage, though, please consider some of the following facts.)

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    SEAL OF THE PROPHETS 33:40: Clearly the starting point and cornerstone of any discussion of a new Messenger of God.

    33:40. Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.

    (The Qur’an (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 33)

    Then consider the transliteration of the Arabic:

    “Ma kana Muhammadun aba ahadin min rijalikum walakin rasul Allah wa khatam an-nabiyyin. Wa kana ‘llahu bi-kulli shay’in ‘aliman.” (Sorry that the many accents were not possible at this time.)

    From this please consider: Does it say that Muhammad is the ‘khatam an-rasul Allah’ (Seal of the Messenger of God with a Book)? Clearly not. To be sure a ‘rasul Allah’ is a ‘nabiyyin’ (a David or an Isaiah), but a nabiyyin is clearly not a ‘rasul Allah’ (Prophet with a Book). Does this imply that a ‘rasul Allah’ is possible.

    ———–
    THE HAND OF GOD IS CHAINED UP:

    “The Jews say, ‘God’s hand is fettered;’ their hands are fettered and they are cursed for what they said; nay! His hands are outspread,…” (Rodwell, 5:69 {Interesting that this specific verse is not in Yusuf Ali’s translation})

    (The Qur’an (E.H. Palmer tr), Sura 5 – The Table)

    Yusuf Ali’s translation not withstanding, to claim there could not be another Messenger FOREVER AND EVER is to say God’s hands are in some way tied up and fettered. God ceases to be All-Mighty and All-Powerful?

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    DAY OF JUDGEMENT, DAY OF RESURRECTION, DAY OF GOD:

    Clearly Muhammad is anticipating a great spiritual event in the future, indeed the coming together of the planet (3:9, 6:12). Would such anticipation for something this great only be warranted for the return of the Messenger?

    ————-
    SOUNDING OF A TRUMPET(S): There are eleven references to the sounding of a Trumpet in the Yusuf Ali translation. The verse Baha’is are most drawn to is:

    “68. The Trumpet will (just) be sounded, when all that are in the heavens and on earth will swoon, except such as it will please Allah (to exempt). Then will a second one be sounded, when behold, they will be standing and looking on!

    69. And the Earth will shine with the glory of its Lord: the Record (of Deeds) will be placed (open); the prophets and the witnesses will be brought forward: and a just decision pronounced between them; and they will not be wronged (in the least).

    70. And to every soul will be paid in full (the fruit) of its deeds; and (Allah) knoweth best all that they do.”

    (The Qur’an (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 39)

    Baha’is maintain the trumpets are the new sounding of Gabriel’s Trumpet, a New Messenger with a new outpouring of the Word of God. While people are wont to take verses 68 and 69 literally, there is great figurative and spiritual accuracy in the lives of the two founders in Iran, the Bab (declaring in Shiraz in 1844) and Baha’u’llah (declaring His mission in Baghdad in 1863)

    {For more information see “Islam and the Baha’i Faith”, Moojan Momen, George Ronald Press, 2000}

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    INTERESTING BAB’I AND BAHA’I FACTS OF HISTORY?
    Do these demonstrate there are new Messengers (Trumpets) and the Hand of God is at Work in the World?
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    *** FROM THE LIFE OF THE BAB ***
    ———
    DECLARATION OF THE BAB AND THE COMING TOGETHER OF THE PLANET?

    The Bab declared His Mission on May 23rd, 1844. On May 24th, 1844 Samuel Morris tapped out the first Morris Code, “What hath God wrought?”, transmitted from Washington, DC to Baltimore. Was God bringing the World together?

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    BOOK OF DANIEL, 9:4 ON THE COMING OF THE MESSIAH: For an extensive commentary please see the Baha’i Reference Book, “Some Answered Questions” by the Son of the Founder of the Baha’i Faith, ‘Abdu’l-Baha, available for a free download at the Baha’i International Website, http://www.bahai.org.

    ———
    SURVIVAL OF THE BAB: Within six months into the Bab’s Mission the Governor of Shiraz was trying to kill Him as a heretic (heard this before?). Soon the Prime Minister also joined in to stamp out the Bab and His Message. He survived another 5.5 years and won over his captors in Iran’s worst prisons.

    ———
    CONVERSION OF VAHID – THE BILLY GRAHAM OF IRAN IN 1844: An amazing story. Vahid had memorized the Qur’an and 30,000 Hadiths and could over power all takers in the court of the Shah with his arguments. After two interviews with the Bab, Vahid was was extremely confused about his own knowledge and the power of the Bab’s ideas that he finally prayed that the Bab would unasked reveal a commentary on the Surah of Kathar. The Bab did and completely won Vahid over.

    ———
    313 FOLLOWERS OF THE BAB HOLD OFF 10,000 FOR TEN MONTHS: During the Ministry of the Bab the laws of war were not changed from the Dispensation of Muhammad. There were tree major clashes between the followers of the Bab and the armies of Iran. Vahid and another key religious convert were at the center of two of these events, but the first and most powerful surrounded the efforts of the two most powerful of the Bab’s earliest believers. In fulfillment of
    Shiite tradition (~”When you see the black standard raised in Mashad go to it even if you have to crawl through snow”) Quddus and Mulla Husayn set out from Mashad heading West along the North of Iran holding aloft a Black Standard at the bidding of the Bab. They got a quarter of the way across Iran, where they were halted by Government forces and built a fort around the shrine of Shaykh Tabarsi. They purposefully allowed into the fort 313 believers to match the number of followers who stood with Muhammad at the Battle of Badr. By way of comparison, the Battle of Badr was over in a couple of hours, Quddus and Mulla Husayn engaged the Persian army for ten months. Is there truth then in the verse:

    249. When Talut set forth with the armies, he said: “Allah will test you at the stream; if any drinks of its water, he goes not with my army; only those who taste not of it go with me; a mere sip out of the hand is excused.” But they all drank of it, except a few. When they crossed the river, he and the faithful ones with him, they said: “This day we cannot cope with Goliath and his forces.” But those who were convinced that they must meet Allah, said: “How oft, by Allah’s will, hath a small force vanquished a big one? Allah is with those who steadfastly persevere.”
    (The Qur’an (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 2)

    ———
    MARTYRDOM OF THE BAB UNDER VERY UNUSUAL CONDITIONS:
    There is a Shiite tradition that the Shiites would kill the next Messenger. Just “in case the Bab was a Messenger” the Prime Minister brought in a Christian Armenian regiment to execute the Bab. “They missed.” It took a Shiite regiment to kill the Bab, July 9th, 1850.

    ———
    THE SHRINE OF THE BAB, NEXT TO THE CAVE OF ELIJAH ON MOUNT CARMEL OVERLOOKING THE CITY OF HAIFA: Interesting how the sacred remains of the Bab now lie in conspicuous glory after being thrown to the dogs in a moat outside the city of Tabriz, Iran where He was executed.

    144 … But who doth more wrong than one who invents a lie against Allah, to lead astray men without knowledge? For Allah guideth not people who do wrong.
    (The Qur’an (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 6)

    Would an All-Powerful Creator allow something like this to take place if it was false? Has the Power of God been at work in the World in recent times?

    *** FROM THE LIFE OF THE BAHA’U’LLAH ***

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    THE BAB LINKS UP WITH BAHA’U’LLAH WITHIN TWO MONTHS: The Bab’s first mission for His first believer is to take a message to Tehran and give it to Baha’u’llah. Though they never appear to meet the Bab and Baha’u’llah work very closely together. The Bab’s primary Mission is to prepare the way for Baha’u’llah. In this two Trumpet scenario the Bab is trying to “take the heat” and protect Baha’u’llah.

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    BAHA’U’LLAH’S INCREDIBLE COURAGE AND PROTECTED LIFE: Baha’u’llah was traveling across the North of Iran and stopped in a village where he was friendly with the Governor. The Governor receives an order from Muhammad Shah to arrest Baha’u’llah and send Him to Tehran for execution. The Governor tells His friend to get on His horse and ride to safety in Russia controlled ares to the North. Baha’u’llah stated: “I put my trust in God.” The next day a messenger came from Tehran: “Muhammad Shah is dead.” The order for execution was forgotten.

    After the execution of the Bab two enraged youth tried to avenge the death and discharged rifles full of bird-shot at Nasiri’d Din Shah. The Shah ordered the immediate arrest of Baha’u’llah and the elimination of all the Bab’is. Again Baha’u’llah’s friends begged him to ride to safety in Russia. The next day Baha’u’llah got on His horse and rode straight to the summer camp of the Shah and turned himself in to protect the rest of the followers of the Bab. Baha’u’llah was marched on a 20 km gauntlet to the worst prison in Iran in downtown Tehran and had a 100 lb (45 kg.) chain fastened to his neck. The young Shah’s mother was determined to have Baha’u’llah killed. Baha’u’llah walked out of the dungeon after four months. In the dungeon Baha’u’llah had a very powerful dream:

    “One night, in a dream, these exalted words were heard on every side: “Verily, We shall render Thee victorious by Thyself and by Thy Pen. Grieve Thou not for that which hath befallen Thee, neither be Thou afraid, for Thou art in safety. Erelong will God raise up the treasures of the earth — men who will aid Thee through Thyself and through Thy Name, wherewith God hath revived the hearts of such as have recognized Him.” ”
    (Baha’u’llah, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 21)

    Baha’u’llah is sent into exile to Baghdad where he survived numerous assassination attempts instigated by the Shiite leaders of the city. It would be as if all of the energy and violence we now see in Baghdad was focused on trying to destroy Baha’u’llah.

    Baha’u’llah is exiled as far from Iran as possible to the Western edge of Turkey as the Shah of Iran and the Sultan of Turkey join hands to wipe Him out.

    After five years, in 1868 Baha’u’llah is sent to Turkey’s worst prison in Akka just North of Haifa. It would be like sending someone to Abu Ghraeb prison under Saddam Hussein. After nine years the mufti of Akka loved Baha’u’llah so much he went to Baha’u’llah, took His hand and begged Him for an hour to walked out of the prison together. Baha’u’llah did and established His Faith on the slopes of Mt. Carmel, pointing out to ‘Abdu’l-Baha where the Sacred remains of the Bab should be laid.

    ——–
    BAHA’U’LLAH’S TEACHINGS ON JIHAD:
    Beware lest ye shed the blood of anyone. Unsheathe the sword of your tongue from the scabbard of utterance, for therewith ye can conquer the citadels of men’s hearts. We have ABOLISHED THE LAW TO WAGE HOLY WAR AGAINST EACH OTHER. God’s mercy, hath, verily, encompassed all created things, if ye do but understand. Aid ye your Lord, the God of Mercy, with the sword of understanding. Keener indeed is it, and more finely tempered, than the sword of utterance, were ye but to reflect upon the words of your Lord. Thus have the hosts of Divine Revelation been sent down by God, the Help in Peril, the Self-Subsisting, and thus have the armies of divine inspiration been made manifest from the Source of command, as bidden by God, the All-Glorious, the Best-Beloved.
    (Baha’u’llah, The Summons of the Lord of Hosts, p. 23, One of His first Tablets to the Leaders of the Middle East and Europe.)

    “O people of the earth! The first Glad-Tidings which the Mother Book hath, in this Most Great Revelation, imparted unto all the peoples of the world is that the law of holy war hath been blotted out from the Book. Glorified be the All-Merciful, the Lord of grace abounding, through Whom the door of heavenly bounty hath been flung open in the face of all that are in heaven and on earth. 22

    The second Glad-Tidings It is permitted that the peoples and kindreds of the world associate with one another with joy and radiance. O people! Consort with the followers of all religions in a spirit of friendliness and fellowship. Thus hath the day-star of His sanction and authority shone forth above the horizon of the decree of God, the Lord of the worlds.”
    (Baha’u’llah, Tablets of Baha’u’llah, p. 21, Revealed after Baha’u’llah was living outside the Prison City of Akka.)

    ————
    HAS BAHA’U’LLAH ESTABLISHED A SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY TO MANDATE THAT THE LAW OF HOLY WAR HAS BEEN BLOTTED OUT FROM THE BOOK OF GOD?
    Baha’u’llah willingly submitted to the worst atrocities that could be piled on His shoulders, He walked into the Shah’s controlled prison in Tehran and walked out of the Sultan’s prison of Akka unscathed with none capable of stopping the flow of His Words.

    144 … But who doth more wrong than one who invents a lie against Allah, to lead astray men without knowledge? For Allah guideth not people who do wrong.
    (The Qur’an (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 6)

    What is the Will of God in this regard?

    (For many more details on the Life of Baha’u’llah, please go to http://www.bahaullah.org)

    =================================
    MY CHOICE:

    1. Do I try to work to change political processes through civil disobedience?

    2. Do I try to help establish a new spiritual authority on the Planet that can justifiably claim that the God has Willed that Jihad is to be blotted out from the Book of God and a Global Peace established?

    I follow the latter believing that when enough people also agree to the new spiritual Laws and realities the cultures of the countries will change and then the governments will change.

    Christianity spread quite slowly but steadily. The Baha’i Faith is on a similar Flight Path, just 165 years into the process?

    Respectfully submitted, Truthseeker

  7. says

    To the Moslems, especially Persian Shiites: I couldn’t be more American. I’m a descendent of George Washington and have had Presbyterian, Congregational and Methodist clergy in the our family for generations. 40 years ago I left a budding career as a Christian minister to be a Baha’i and have been an active Baha’i ever since. To me, the most dramatic aspect of the Baha’i Faith was and is divine chastisement, ie, punishment. Previous to this, I, like all other Christians, read the Bible, see God’s hand punishing the wicked and wonder to ourselves: “Where is that today?”

    But, when I read the history of the Baha’i Faith, I was astounded and rocked to the marrow of my bones: This is what every Christian has been looking for! This what we’ve been waiting for for the last 2000 years! This is the visible sign of God’s power in the material world! This is a story that is more dramatic than The 10 Commandments, Lord of the Rings and the Life of Jesus all wrapped up into one! (see below at the end of this article). Yes, I feel bad for the poor 7 Yaran (above) who just got sentenced to 20 years and I pray for them. But you know who I pity? THE PEOPLE WHO DID IT. Yes, that’s who I pray for. EVERY SINGLE TIME there is persecution of the Baha’is, it is followed by some God-awful catastrophe which looks poetic than anything Shakespeare could dream up. And to all you doubters and nay-sayers, let me say this: if it were once or twice or 50 or even 100 times, I supposed you might say it’s a coincidence. But there are THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of stories about this. Yes, it is sad that the Bahai’s suffer so unjustly in Iran. But if you watch the details, after some horrible crime is done to them, an earthquake, a plague or some horrible “act of God” occurs. I don’t need to tell you that Iran and Iraq have been all but trashed in the ensuing apocalypse. All the early persecutors, torturers and executioners of the Baha’is and Babi’s—met horrible and or poetic deaths. If you want to know what your end is going to be like, read some of the books I have listed below—then maybe you’ll pray to God about it and perhaps read Baha’u’llah’s other books,”

    I’m going to give you some examples of this divine punishment. But before I do, I want you to keep in mind the Pharaoh, who was in denial EVERY SINGLE TIME Moses predicted very specific divine punishment which were to befall Egypt, saying such things as: “Moses, look, we have plagues of locusts and frogs every year, right? We live next to the Nile; this is nothing special, and certainly not a punishment from God.” The point is that some people just aren’t going to get it until they wake up in hell and THEN try to cut some kind of deal with God, as story says that the Pharaoh did; too late.

    Some examples of divine chastisement involving Iran and those who persecuted the Baha’is: The Moslem soldiers who shot the Bab the second time and caused His death, themselves were executed by firing squad and the instructions were that they were to be shot twice, to make sure they were dead. As the hundreds of early Babi’s were having their throats cut by order of Mirza Taqi Khan, with their last words they predicted that he would die the same way. The next year, Mirza Taqi Khan fell out of favor with the government and he was ordered to have his throat cut. Sometime during the time of Shoghi Effendi (1921-1957), there was a radio personality in Iran who incited the people to kill the Baha’is—which they did. He received a telegram from Shoghi Effendi, which said: “Your tongue will regret the words it speaks,” and he died thereafter of cancer of the tongue. This last year, it was discovered that there was a Baha’i on the Iranian Judo team and he was ordered kicked off the team. The authorities didn’t care that he was the top scoring member of the team and so, the final decision was made to kick him off the team thus preventing him from taking part in the international competition in Russia. Accordingly, he was not allowed to board the flight to Russia; soon after the flight took off, it crashed, killing all aboard, leaving the Baha’i as the only survivor of the team.

    To my little brother above (Funky Child), I say: “Don’t worry. There is a good reason why Baha’is stay out of politics. You should read your Baha’i history more and then you won’t worry about the Baha’is so much. Worry about the rest of humanity — and pray for them.

    To my Moslem brothers and sisters, I suggest you, too read up on the Baha’i Faith. DO NOT ASK THE MULLAs ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY LIE. I know some of you think I’m severe, fanatical and have taken the hardcore, fundamentalist side of Christianity with me. I don’t think so; I think I’m on to something. Read up on the Baha’i Faith, pray about it, ask God for a sign of some kind, ask your Baha’i neighbors to get you into a Ruhi program to learn about spirituality, pray to God that He forgive your hard-heartedness and then have the courage to tell your family and friends about this wonderful message of God that is so thrilling the lives of the Baha’is.

    Now, I’m not a superstitious person, but my next advice to you is to run— DON’T WALK! — to Evin prison, get those Baha’is out of jail, kiss them and hold their hands as you take them home—to avoid the “…blasts of His chastisement…” which are FOR CERTAIN aimed directly at you.

    Have a nice day. May God requite you for your acts of sacrifice, courage and daring and forgive all of us for our shortcomings.

    (To find more about the extremely dramatic Baha’i story and history, I recommend to you the following Baha’i history books: 1-The Dawnbreakers by Nabil 2-God Passes By by Shoghi Effendi and 3-The Promised Day is Come by Shoghi Effendi.)

  8. says

    You mirrored my thoughts wonderfully, gravenimage, respecting this photo and all that it conveyed. I could not have said it any better than you did and so I won’t even attempt it.

  9. says

    Thank you for your comment. I must say that I am saddened by it because to the extent that your assessment of the Baha’i faith is accurate (and I have no alternative knowledge of it to dispute you), then to such an extent is this faith in error for the reason being that evil must be called out and opposed, which by your own account of things the followers of this faith will not do.

    To consider Mohammed flawless is beyond comprehension for me and to think the Koran is the Word of God makes me shudder if this is so because then we all live in a cosmos which is Orwellian. It seems that followers of the Baha’i faith could be not unfairly accused of terminal naivety.

    It’s a cruel world out there and sham, brutality and imposture are practically ubiquitous where the human condition is concerned. Strikes me that the followers of this pacifist creed are not aware of the necessity of standing up to others. Only in a world where all are wise and benevolent would this be good policy. We do not live in such a world. I can see therefore why you are leaving this faith, painful in one or more ways for you that such a course of action likely is.

  10. says

    What an appalling end to your faith journey. It is sad that the realities of jihad and the truth of Islam must extract you from that cocoon in order for the pronouncements of freedom and human rights to prevail.

    Welcome to our community, and I am thankful, personally, for your efforts, on behalf of me and my family.

  11. says

    Courage, friend. Remember Gandhi’s belief that in the end, “evil always fails.”

    I do not subscribe to Gandhi’s naivette, but I will say that in spite of what you say, I would rather have an Iran safe for the followers of Baha’i than an Iran that is run by the deadly devotees of Islam.