But the United States, of course, is not fighting a war. More on this story: Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi was a CIA informant who actually was an Islamic jihadist. He murdered seven people because the CIA agents knew and trusted him, and were not on their guard against him. "War is deceit," after all. "CIA bomber's wife says war must go on against US," by Selcan Hacaoglu for Associated Press, January 8 (thanks to Maxwell):
[...] Defne Bayrak, the wife of bomber Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi, said in an interview with The Associated Press that his hatred of the United States had motivated her husband to sacrifice his life on Dec. 30 in what he regarded as a holy war against the U.S.Bayrak also said Friday, "I think the war against the United States must go on."
Leftist/Jihadist Alliance Update:
Turkish police questioned and released Bayrak on Thursday. But she says police confiscated a book she had written called "Osama bin Laden the Che Guevera of the East."
CIA jihadist's wife: "I think the war against the United States must go on"
United States: "Ready when you are, honey."
This latest horror perpetrated by a Muslim, approved of by his Muslim widow, functions as just one more piece of evidence that all Muslims must be treated as guilty in the courts of common sense and public opinion until unequivocally proven innocent, which reasonable minds can debate is even possible. Islam is the enemy of liberty and thus all adherents of Islam must be treated with suspicion. Yes, we can work with some Muslims against others but that doesn't mean we should trust these same Muslims with whom we are cooperating. Respecting Muslims, one should always be on his guard. Better this way. Safer too.
Defne Bayrak: OK. Islamist, terrorist scumbag just like her Islamist, terrorist scumbag husband who is spilling the evidence that Muslim women are just as apt to be Islamist, terrorist scumbag as Muslim men.
"He murdered seven people because the CIA agents knew and trusted him, and were not on their guard against him."
Well, he was only Humam, you see ? That's something rather different than human, I suppose. Or even humane.
:-)
freaky :-(
Most of us know the old saying, "behind every great man there stands a great woman".
Well, here we have an evil woman standing by her evil man.
yup
Just saw her interviewed on CNN, black burqa and all of course. She was very proud.
vomit..
She's right...The war must continue...Rasulullahhaha Obama beware...That's if he can stop looking in the mirror long enough...
Maybe Columbia University could invite here for a speaking engagement at the university. Shouldn't be a problem getting a visa. She could also try to catch up with Michelle Obama and exchange notes for Bayrak's follow up book on despising American culture.
People in the West are simply not capable of "grasping" or internalizing the sort of hate that Muslims can feel. This woman's hatred for people she never knew, but who are from the "opposing" infidel Civilization, is SO GREAT that it is greater than whatever "love" she had for her husband. Sure, one could say that as a Muslim she may have had nothing but hatred for her husband in the first place, love being no part of "marriage" under Islam, but even so, her hatred, so very great, is beyond the grasp of most in the West to conceive of. Most people in the West would not hate someone who killed their entire family to the level that Muslims are able to hate, and in fact do hate, infidel kafir Westerners. These people should be dealt with in the same way that you would deal with an attacking bear or other wild animal with which you have zero chance of rationally working out whatever "issues" it has with you.
The fact of the matter is that a large percentage of Muslims fully agree with this nutty couple mentioned in the above article. Being unable to question or criticize Islam, they are unable to understand the fact that it is Islam that is the root cause of their problems.
Islam is a fundamentally unjust and fundamentally untrue religion that creates societies without a hope for success. Muhammad was nothing short of a mad man who has betrayed those who have put their trust in him and ‘call themselves Muslims’.
Islam is the great dark fake light of the world and it’s ‘true believing adherents’ would blindly snuff out all real light if give the chance and opportunity. Islam robs a significant percentage of Muslims of their humanity and rationality and sends them packing down the dark path. One should ultimately expect nothing other from a people who follow the words and example of pathetic little Muhammad that most detestable of psychopathic narcissists.
I am an ex-Muslim with a website. http://www.considerationsofacanadianex-muslim.org
OT, but check out this report of rioting in Egypt. The lies and displacement of responsibility never cease...
"One official said several Christians were caught with firebombs they used to torch their own homes."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100108/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_egypt_christmas_attack
Of course she's happy. No more nightly beatings from the hubby.
We JW regulars already know that Islam is a terribly harmful fraud in totality and that Muhammad was a criminally insane narcissist. Some of our energy ought to be put into bringing more traffic to this site. RS knows His stuff big time and we should do our part to make sure that more people learn the horrible truth about Islam. Many of the hardcore Islamist will never stop their forward march. They have been fully indoctrinated by Muhammad’s cult of Islam. It is time put your neck on the line and to do your part to head them off at the pass before predicable disaster occurs -- just my opinion mind you –- to each their own.
Possibly the best way to currently do this is:
* A person can easily make small paper fliers on their own printer. In fact several small fliers can fit onto one 11X81/2 sheet of paper. Then with scissors you simply cut them out and maybe add some color with a felt pen. They could read something as simple as: WWW.JihadWatch.org -- Stand against Sharia Law and Islamic Supremacism.
Or, WWW.JihadWatch.org -- Islam is not “the religion of peace” as it is commonly called, but it is primarily a religion of “injustice, intolerance, hatred, and violence.” The fact is, if a person were to say about Muslims what the Koran says about non-Muslims, they would be arrested for hate speech. The Koran largely preaches discrimination, death, and imposition of its dogma on everyone.
You can go down to Staples or some other office supply store and make hundreds of these for dirt cheap. These fliers can be left all over the place. In bathrooms, on car windshields, etc etc etc
* Another way is to go down to your local art supply store and buy a set of stencils and a quality exacto blade, draw and cut out a template on a large thick piece of paper, then using paint, make signs similar to real estate signs that people put on their lawns. These signs can be stapled to telephone poles or placed elsewhere.
* Email what you think are some of the best articles from this and others great sites like FaithFreedom.org and IslamWatch.org to various people and groups. These above mentioned ideas can be very effective at exposing Islam for the fraud that it is.
Fair enough, but I just don't get this "Leftist/Jihadist Alliance". Do you think there's an alliance? For me, most of the Left, in almost all Western countries, is just dumb enough to carry on thinking in terms of multiculturalism, Islamophobia bla bla bla. But the Right isn't much wiser, now is it? And, more to the point, the comparison between Laden and Che is just another simulacrum the Muslims are so fond of - "freedom fighters", "revolutionaries" etc. Hitler did the same, and admired Stalin greatly, and no one would consider him a leftist.
And the so-called "Right" in the US gave everything to the jihadists (money, training, political alliances, etc.). There are alliances of the Arabs with so-called leftists (Chavez, Lula), but what's the point in calling them leftists? Right or left shouldn't matter anymore; totalitarianism (and pan-islamism is obviously a form of totalitarianism) explodes these categories (along with a few civilians for good measure). I can't see much difference between Bush Jr and Chavez, f.i., regarding what matters, what is the crucial question: pan-islamism.
Rengo, while I agree with you that, "Right or left shouldn't matter anymore..." I think the continuum that matters is anarchy and chaos at one end, individual freedom and limited government somewhere in the middle, with increasing government control to the point of absolute dictatorship on the other. Which is "right" or "left" I leave to someone who cares.
My point is that islam and socialism/communism, realized fully, share the dictatorship-end of this spectrum. Both require control over as many aspects of life as they have the power to inflict. Both require that their adherents think of all other beliefs (including unbelief and indifference) and their adherents as inferior, worthy of contempt, and deserving of extinction, unless they have value as slaves.
Like the Stalinists and Nazis, they share a fondness for socialism, state control, and conquest of their neighbors. But also like them, the leftists and islamists would be allies of convenience until it is time to divide the world between them, at which time they would each seek to cut the other's throat and take the prize for themselves.
Deep, huh? :)
RSI
RENGO STAR: "I can't see much difference between Bush Jr and Chavez, f.i., regarding what matters, what is the crucial question: pan-islamism."
RESPONSE: Another Lefty reveals his ignorance.
The respective treatment of the Islamic Republic of Iran by Bush and Chavez should tell you everything you need to know. Bush imposed sanctions and tried to diplomatically and economically isolate Tehran; Chavez embraced Tehran, coordinating not only diplomatic and economic ties, but importing hundreds of Iranian agents into Venezuala under the guise of "oil experts".
Their respective treatment of Israel, THEE front-line state in the war against Islam is another clue. Bush continued strong American support for the Jewish state; Chavez has championed the cause of the Palestinians.
You don't get the "Leftist/Jihadist alliance"? It's based upon a mutual affinity for collectivism, and a mutual antagonism for America and capitalism.
RedState,
I completely disagree. I gather from your words that you are a liberal. That continuum you mention was exploded with Nazi Germany - remember that the vast majority of good liberal capitalists in Germany supported the Nazis and made fortunes with slave labour and contracts (including Mr Prescott Bush in the US). (I'm not suggesting that all liberals are Nazis - I'm saying that capitalism, and liberalism, can be and were absolutely related). One would never understand sharia financing, the power the Arabs have now, and finally Arab pan-islamism if one didn't take into account the role Western capitalism played in all the story. (Totalitarianism can be born rooted in a communist system, no doubt about that; but to suggest that it can ONLY grow outta communism is preposterous).
And IMAO socialism is completely different from communism. F.i., real socialism was actualised in the kibutzim. Nothing could be further from totalitarianism than that.
And totalitarianism is completely different from dictatorship (and, incidentally, from fascism).
But that's just my opinion.
sorry: *capitalism, and liberalism, can be and were absolutely related to totalitarianism*
CORNELIUS,
oh yeah, if one criticises capitalism and liberalism, one's automatically a "Lefty".
Chavez is not a "Lefty", that's my point. (What's "collective" or communist in his policies?) You guys still think Right and Left have the same hermeneutic value (as tools for interpreting politics) they use to have before 1930.
Bush Jr and his father's policies regarding Israel and the Arabs were so great! Give me a break.
Saleem Smith wrote:
...it is time put your neck on the line and to do your part to head them off at the pass before predicable disaster occurs -- just my opinion mind you –- to each their own.
Possibly the best way to currently do this is:
* A person can easily make small paper fliers on their own printer. In fact several small fliers can fit onto one 11X81/2 sheet of paper. Then with scissors you simply cut them out and maybe add some color with a felt pen. They could read something as simple as: WWW.JihadWatch.org -- Stand against Sharia Law and Islamic Supremacism.
etc...
...................
Agreed, Saleem Smith. My project is Heroes Against Jihad. I just finished my tribute to Danish"MoToon" artist Kurt Westergaard.
You can see the piece here:
http://s478.photobucket.com/albums/rr144/gravenimageartist/?action=view¤t=JWHKW.jpg&newest=1
You can also find previous pieces featuring Brigitte Gabriel, Geert Wilders, and Wafa Sultan.
All comments are appreciated.
...she says police confiscated a book she had written called "Osama bin Laden the Che Guevera of the East."
That book is correct. Nobody has been able to ruin economic development like Che Guevara.
MiamiInfidel--maybe you're Cuban-descended?
Che Guevara was also a bloodthirsty fiend who liked to watch executions. It is utterly disgusting that his icon emblazons every supermodel's handbag and bikini, and that the sch^^*cks in Hollywood make laudatory movies about his wasted and wasteful life.
The Left-Islamist alliance only shows that the Western Left is utterly consumed with hatred for the civilization that nurtured it and is more concerned with destruction than anything else.
Interesting story.
I'd like to see what Jihad Watch readers (and especially writers, like yourself) have to say about this:
Church Made Out Of Muslim Bones
If you want to defend yourselves, register on the forum and post the logic/reasoning behind creating a church out of bones.
gravenimage,
Nice work. My favorite was your latest piece. I love the expressive touch you gave to Kurt’s face. You’ll likely get even better and expand your ideas as time moves along. All the best Bro.
book she had written called "Osama bin Laden the Che Guevera of the East."
The paradise on earth that she seeks would be ruled by the likes of Taliban where she would have not been allowed to go to school to learn to write anything.
Anyone else note that the doc's widow is Turkish? I thought Turks were supposed to be moderate, modern Muslims...and she was married to a doctor no less, so she's likely well-educated herself and is certainly not part of the "poor and oppressed" crowd.
Incidentally, to Humza:
The "logic" of creating a church from Muslim bones does not exist because the bones in the church pictured on that website are NOT those of Muslims. I have visited that very church in the Czech Republic; in fact, when I visited Prague in 1994, I took a special train trip to the town where that church is located, just so that I could visit it.(Incidentally, the Muslim website you provided the link to gets the town's name wrong; it is in fact called Kutna Hora. The church is their one big tourist attraction.) The bones are those of European Christians, mainly victims of the bubonic plague or Black Death that periodically struck Europe over the centuries.
What I find most striking about seeing such a claim on that website, however, is that even if those bones *were* of massacred Muslims, which they are not, it is pretty sad to have to go back to at least the 15th century to find such an incident perpetrated against Muslims.
I mean no offense against you personally. I actually know many nice Muslims. It is just that they seem completely ignorant (perhaps willfully so) of many of the teachings of their own faith. I am genuinely sad for those Muslims who are ignorant of the Koran and Hadith and truly believe their religion is peaceful, only to have to keep being confronted by such "misunderstanders" of it.
Sure, lets just take a few lines out a WAR TIME REVELATION, and call the WHOLE religion barbaric and not peaceful. There are thousands of verses in the Quran, but people choose a few verses (out of context) and attempt to make Islam look bad.
Humza, I am asking you the following question sincerely:
If it is only a few verses that mandate that Muslims act violently, why is it frequently the most educated Muslims, not only those who are poor and poorly educated, who choose to focus only on the violent verses? For example, Nidal Hassan (Ft. Hood jihadist)--a doctor. The recent CIA attacker--a doctor. The man who beheaded the journalist Daniel Pearl had studied at the extremely prestigious London School of Economics. Most of the 9/11 hijackers had college degrees in challenging subjects such as Engineering. Abdulmutallub--also a very well-educated Engineering student. And he was head of his university's Islamic Student Society, no less!
Why do such obviously intelligent, well-educated Muslims choose to focus only on your faith's violent teachings? If there are many Islamic teachings that command Muslims to be peaceful, why do they not follow those instead of the ones commanding violence? What is your opinion? Again, I am asking sincerely. I am not trying to start an argument. I genuinely want to know your opinion, as a Muslim, as to why many educated Muslims do this.
Even if someone took all of the approximately 164 Jihad verses in the Qur'an (all taken out of context, of course) they still couldn't make Islam look anywhere near as bad as Muslims themselves do every single day.
Humza wrote:
Interesting story.
I'd like to see what Jihad Watch readers (and especially writers, like yourself) have to say about this:
Church Made Out Of Muslim Bones
If you want to defend yourselves, register on the forum and post the logic/reasoning behind creating a church out of bones.
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This is revisionist history at its worst. The Sedlec Ossuary is famous—it was created out of the bones of those who had been buried in the churchyard there—hardly likely to be Muslims buried in a consecrated churchyard.
The bones are primarily those from victims of the 14th-century Black Death and the 15th-century Hussite Wars, neither of which had anything whatsoever to do with Muslims.
The Ossuary itself was constructed in the 19th century. One may consider the result fascinating or macabre—or a bit of both—but this has nothing to do with any sort of mythical massacre of Muslims.
A lot of the readers of JihadWatch are students of history. You will have to peddle this shoddy propaganda elsewhere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedlec_Ossuary
Ok, I'll respond.
I've posted the question as a topic in the debates section of the forum.
The debate thread is available here. (You'll be able to see the replies of other Muslims as well. I highly doubt many come here and will see your question).
I will answer your question in the reply below it.
Humza says
"There are thousands of verses in the Quran, but people choose a few verses (out of context) and attempt to make Islam look bad."
Who is attempting to make Islam look bad? Do we even have to 'attempt'?
Your anger should be directed towards your muslim brothers, who somehow 'misunderstand' those verses. Try to explain the Quran to them, not to us.
Hey Humza, how are doin’ tonight? I did not notice that you are a Muslim. I am an ex-Muslim. Care to chat?
Humza, what to think about the following Hadith and Quranic verses in which your saintly little pal Muhammad says that I should put to death for no other ‘crime’ than leaving Islam? Do you agree with Muhammad Humza? If you and I were to meet in real life, would you obey Muhammad and his fictitious god Allah and attempt to kill me? You ought to know, my friend, that if you should decide to stay in the Islamic religion for the rest of your life knowing what you now must surely know about it you would not be a human being deserving of respect. I hope that you will be honest with yourself and leave the terribly harmful and fraudulent religion of Islam when you get the chance to safely do so. There is a link to my website in a comment posted above. Check it out and send me an email if you’d like.
Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 9, Book 84, No. 57:
Narrated Ikrima
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire)’. I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changes his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”
Quran:
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SHAKIR: What is the matter with you, then, that you have become two parties about the hypocrites, while Allah has made them return (to unbelief) for what they have earned? Do you wish to guide him whom Allah has caused to err? And whomsoever Allah causes to err, you shall by no means find a way for him.
004.089
SHAKIR: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
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SHAKIR: Except those who reach a people between whom and you there is an alliance, or who come to you, their hearts shrinking from fighting you or fighting their own people; and if Allah had pleased, He would have given them power over you, so that they should have certainly fought you; therefore if they withdraw from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not given you a way against them.
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SHAKIR: You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority.
There are people looking at and commenting at Humza's site (where he's listed as founder) because the Sedlec Ossuary is listed as having been built of muslim bones in the 13th century. In other words, even though he didn't post it himself, he's allowing revisionist propaganda bullshit to be peddled as fact, and people here want to get his "honest opinion" on anything?!?
Is Humza going to remove the BS captions or revise them to reflect reality, and verifiable history??
Somehow, I doubt it.
Yes, you can find quite a few pseudo-historical stuff as well as a plethora of conspiracy theories at such places. We were plagued for a time with such people spamming such stuff here and monopolizing the threads with unrelated and unreliable garbage.
Humza, more than a few people make Islam look bad.(that's putting it mildly)
What happens to all the muslims who get Islam wrong, what does Allah do to them? If you need to, use another tinfoil hat slideshow.
I messed up the spelling a little in the above post. No big deal.
Humza, are you still out there? If so, why don't you make a comment and you and I chat for a while. I've got about an hour before I go to bed. I'll be on the net and checking into Jihad Watch periodically if you would like to do do so.
Humza, you are a fool. It seems to come quite natural to Muslims to commandeer other cultures' history and spin their lies.
Here are some details about the church.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedlec_Ossuary - nothing to do with Muslims.
Ossuaries are quite common - there is one, for example, in the Catacombs of St. Stephens Cathedral of Vienna from the plague era.
Well clearly Humza is nothing but BS. He's lost all credibility with me about ANYTHING he says. I can see thru and handle smooth-talkers with interesting, if false, points to make, but once they go so far as to blatantly and verifiably lie, then it's good night, Mahound.
I am grateful for the comments of JW-readers about the "church made of Muslim bones". This story on Humza's website seems to suggest: 1. that people may have been killed for building this church. 2. that these people were innocent muslims killed by evil christians. 3. Or that, if the bones were from already dead people, they were taken by Christians as an insult to Muslims. All lies.
This story on an Islamic website probably is just the tip of the iceberg of all that anti-Western and anti-Hindu propaganda that is told to Muslims in Mosques, newspapers-magazines, books, websites. And when in conversation with ignorant non-Muslims, some of whom they try to convert, they tell these stories without being challenged.
But thanks to JW many Westerners get ever more knowledgeable and can react to the Muslims and inform the ignorant Westerners/ Indians better.
A devout Muslim last year told me a story about the nice, wise, patient, peaceful prophet Mohammed, that Mohammed informed about the well-being of a woman, who was absent one day, even after her insulting him deeply many times when he passed her home. FFI-readers later informed me that that story was originally told about Baha'ullah and that Muslims now tell both co-religionists and ignorant Westerners (or so they think) like me this story about Mohammed.
To me it means that their are big shameless liers among the leaders of the Muslims, while many of the rest of the Muslims are deeply brainwashed, manipulated by them. Hopefully these last learn about the truth and our side of the story ever more.
The mujahedeen's wife is saying in newspapers, openly, that he was a martyr and that she is proud of him. But... the thing that make things macabre is CIA's inability to discern the lurking thing. It is so evident that Westerner's mind is, despite all those so catastrophic events, so far from understanding a mindframe capable of doing such things because it has a self inflicted handicap that makes it unable to approach events through their own specific logical coherence. It still approachs a phenomenon like Islam through psychology, sociology, economics etc. Religion is a total terra incongnita in his/her mind which stubbornly is persisting to ignore. The Westerner still suffers from a childish (though very dangerous) arrogance against sitting and examining religion seriously. This is the reason people as Robert here are still perceived as fanatics, as racists, far right ideologues etc.
CIA most probably got the jihadist in its home just the same way the whole West accepted all those millions of Muslims in its homelands. Taqiyya like concepts are not things that can be investigated by so shallow methods as is psychology etc. Such concepts are offsprings of a deep existential perversion that work in the verge of the transandental. They work based in a very deep use of the thing in Judeo Christian tradition we call 'original sin'. That's exactly the reason they act so cheatingly.
The Turks... most of them do not have the faintest idea of what Islam is. They did find it in their family and they say, without any concious consideration, that they are Muslims. It would not be far from reality to say the thing that most of them call Muslim morals is a modified slightly version of simple Christian morals. In fact the thing they call 'being a Muslim' is nothing other than a natural religiousness. And when react against 'insulting Islam' they react to protect this natural 'religiousness' which have in their imagination. This is, beside, that makes their situation so tragic. They feel bitter when they see the EU's reluctance to accept them, without knowing why... And so seeing this reluctance as an unjust thing against themselves.
As to things Humza says... My friend, even if there are really many passages in Islam's main texts that has benign meanings the fact that the 'other' ones too exist is enough to do things unreliable in general. And such a fact makes things even worse, because it opens a whole highway of confusions and interpratations by will. Let be honest, is it in chance that all those areas where Islam has reigned - and still reigns- suffer of such violence and primitivism? Is it possible to have as a guiding paradigm someone who says that will get peace by slaying whoever disagrees with him? Is it possible to get to a dialogue whith someone who threatens you that if you call him 'violent' will 'slay' you? Does remain any space of having a sane discussion with him?
Yeah...war is deceit...it s in the Koran....they will befriend you then kill you when you are offguard...nice move child of Muhammad.
RENGO STAR: "Chavez is not a "Lefty", that's my point. (What's "collective" or communist in his policies?)"
RESPONSE: Your ignorance is palpable. Chavez has "nationalized" (seized with little or no compensation) banks, media, and many other sectors of the Venezuelan economy, including a large portion of agriculture. He's established strong ties to Communist Cuba and the Marxist FARC guerillas terrorizing neighboring Colombia. If this doesn't qualify him as a "Leftist", what the hell would?
RENGO: "Bush Jr and his father's policies regarding Israel and the Arabs were so great! Give me a break."
RESPONSE: Bush Jr initially pushed Israel to accommodate the Palestinians, but then relented when he witnessed how the Pals responded to Israel's unilateral withdrawal from Gaza with daily rocket fire. Meanwhile, George Mitchell, Obama's chief Mid-East negotiator, has threatened to with-hold aid to Israel unless the Israelis jeopardize their security by withdrawing from the West Bank.
Perhaps you support Israel being forced to withdraw from the West Bank so Palestinian rocket and mortar fire can rain down on Israel's coastal cities?
interesting comment Dendrite,
"Westerner's mind is...has a self inflicted handicap that makes it unable to approach events through their own specific logical coherence.
I would say a kind of propaganda has crept into the Western's mind (a.k.a political correctness but his term is inadequate).
This propaganda grew out of the left intellectual elite but has now overtaken it. I would call it the "propaganda of relativism", but this propaganda is inherently self-inconsistent for a number of reasons. However a potentially fatal one is that it mistakes a socio-economic-political system, like Islam, for a religion, a personal believe system, and therein lies the problem.
With Islam we are not facing a religion but a socio-legal-economic-political system adopted by numerous countries, for example: the Islamic Republic of Iran, The Islamic Republic of Pakistan, and the rest of the muslim world. Turkey is supposed to be secular state but they are loosing the struggle.
So while such key state exists treating Islam as purely a religion is at best nonsensical and at worst suicidal. Unfortunately the propaganda that has crept in does not allow us to face the challenge openly and without being vilified as Islamophobe or hat monger or right wing loony. Ironically and sadly also many reform and secularization movements in the Muslim word are stiffed because of this western schizophrenia.
CORNELIUS,
What I meant was, there's no point in calling Chavez a Lefty. He's a "caudillo" who managed to seize power through Arab oil money, and is part of the Islamist plan to control South America (Argentina was probably "colonised" by Arab money during Menem's government; Lula has made deals involving oil with China and the Arabs, and has just received Ahmadinejab; the entire border separating Brazil, Argentina and Paraguai is largely controlled by Arab money and people; in Paraguay, near Foz do Iguaçú, the same). That fact that he "nationalized" the media and agriculture doesn't make him a commie. But that's beside the point.
Your ignorance regarding Bush and Bush Jr's policies is startling. Of course, Obama's policies are much worse; but hey, this time we're not talking about a president who got elected by US oil and armament gigantic companies and his family's fortune made in collusion with the Nazis... Obama was elected by the Saud family. Ergo, Israel is doomed. Ergo, we are all doomed. Unless global politics change radically in the next 5 years, that's what I think will happen. But I don't see any signs of that change in the horizon.
Humza,
All of these are Muslim bones? Presumably the remains of Muslims murdered by infidels?
Prove it.
RENGO: "That fact that he "nationalized" the media and agriculture doesn't make him a commie. But that's beside the point."
No, it makes him a socialist, and that certainly qualifies as "Left". Why are you in denial about something so obvious?
P.S. - So Bush was elected by oil and armament money, eh? As if Defense and Oil firms didn't also contribute to the Gore and Kerry campaigns? You sound like a typical Lefty to me.
I believe it's about time to form another unAmerican Activities Committee. The highest levels of our government
(State Department and Homeland Security) and intelligence agencies(CIA and FBI) are crawling with people who don't have America's best interests at heart; not excluding the POTUS. Until we do that, let's face it, we're ham stringed and flailing around hopelessly.
The kicker for me respecting this Rengo Star is his comment about how the Bush family fortune came from connection with the Nazis. This is an old canard about Prescott Bush, Senator from Connecticut and grandfather and father of two Presidents. Not a single serious historian has ever given this story any credence. Senator Bush had one minor connection in the 1930s with one German businessman who was a member of the Nazi Party. This same businessman later got in trouble with the Nazis and fell into disgrace from a Nazi point of view. Having business dealings with German Nazi businessmen in the 1930s was perfectly legal in almost all endeavors, something thousands of Americans engaged in, besides, this was as minor a conncetion as one could find. Whenever someone brings up how the Bushes were Nazi sympathizers, made their money off of connections with Nazis, blah, blah, blah, I know I'm dealing with a loon. Moreover, this Rengo Star character has said other idiotic things such as not understanding the point in calling Chavez a leftist when, in fact, that is exactly what he is and a pretty extreme leftist at that. You've dealt with him well, Cornelius, but I thought I would chime in because of the Bush/Nazi connection rot.
Saleem Smith, it's easy to have business cards made.
I had a few hundred made, from an on-line service called vistaprint.com -- I just emailed them the text I wanted on the card (advertising Jihad Watch) and they sent me the cards (they also had a neat design). It was that simple (and pretty cheap too). Over the past three years since I did this, I've been dropping the cards off at various places wherever I can, or pinning them on public bulletin boards.
...police confiscated a book she had written called "Osama bin Laden the Che Guevera of the East."
The infamous anarcho-communist terrorist of the 80s (back in the good old days when terrorism really was a loose collection of Che Guevaresque guerillas with no overall blueprint of inveterate provenance and mass sociological inspiration for world conquest, not to mention lacking the unique penchant among Muslims for a grotesquely fanatical vision coupled with a ghoulishly ultra-violent method), Carlos the Jackal, incarcerated in a French prison for years now, has converted to Islam and has written at least one book himself, about how Islam and a new Marxism must unite for world domination.
Demsci wrote:
I am grateful for the comments of JW-readers about the "church made of Muslim bones". This story on Humza's website seems to suggest: 1. that people may have been killed for building this church. 2. that these people were innocent muslims killed by evil christians. 3. Or that, if the bones were from already dead people, they were taken by Christians as an insult to Muslims. All lies.
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Very true, Demsci. Actually, while Sedlec is quite unique for the elaborateness of its ossuary, ossuaries are quite common.
Often older areas of churchyards—especially those with mass graves, or those areas where gravestones or inscriptions had fallen into disrepair, were excavated and the bones gathered into ossuaries.
No one was ever killed to *create* an ossuary—ossuaries, like graveyards and columbriums, are merely a method of containing human remains.
Ossuaries—anything from simple boxes to elaborate displays, were often carved with images of skulls and bones. Ossuaries were often rooms or crypts separate from the main church—so this is not a "church constructed of bones", in any case-and no disrespect was meant to the remains, despite the spin that Humza tried to put on this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary
It was said that Che got a sexual pleasure from killing.I
wander if the same goes for Bin Laden.
Che's dream of world wide communist utopia came to naught;
and he is dead,as well as Hitler.Are you paying attention
Binnie old chap?
Aren't you old communists incensed that Bin Laden is being
mentioned in the same sentence as Che?Come on you old progressive revolutionaries.Address this insult.A religious-
nut being compared to an iconic, atheistic Marxist.
Now that we've taught Humsa about ossuaries, perhaps he/she/it will explain the large pyramids of HIndu skulls that the Muslims used to leave around the Indian countryside during their many invasions of the Sind.
We know about this, Humsa, because of the accounts left to us by Muslim historians.
Ya gotta see this folks --- bullshit in four part harmony....
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=U3RLI6efPGw
Wellington,
Once again, I completely agree with your comments. You seem to have the gift of searching out the facts, and then remembering them well enough to repeat them for us.
Wish I could do that!
Anyway, thanks for clearly putting out the facts for us.
Saleem Smith wrote:
gravenimage,
Nice work. My favorite was your latest piece. I love the expressive touch you gave to Kurt’s face. You’ll likely get even better and expand your ideas as time moves along.
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Thank you so much. I have other pieces planned, including ones featuring Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Mark Steyn, Pamela Geller, Rifqa Bary, and our own Robert Spencer. I better get busy!
I clicked on the link and had a look.
Great job.
Nice contrast between bearded Mohammed ha-Meshugga ('the Mad One') as neatly summed up by Westergaard's own cartoon, and the smiling, crinkle-eyed, cheerfully brave Westergaard himself.
Madness vs sanity.
You are such a gifted artist, Gravenimage! :)