Fitzgerald: Dubai, or Rodeo Drive on Stilts

Dubai is a place, and a symbol.

As a place, it has no claim on our attention. Voltaire once described French Canada as "quelques arpents de neige." Dubai, like the rest of the Emirates, like Saudi Arabia, could with more justice be dismissed, as "quelques arpents de sable." It also happens to be in a place, on the globe, convenient for airplanes travelling from Europe to Asia to set down, and perch, and rest and refuel, during their transcontinental trips. Other than that, Dubai has no significance.

But it became, over the past decade, a symbol of the rich Arab states, that is, those states that have acquired great wealth not from any entrepreneurial flair, or hard work, but rather from the fact of an accident of geology: they are the beneficiaries of the sale of oil (and in some cases natural gas). That oil and gas was discovered by, lifted by, transported by, distributed by, non-Muslims who have done everything, including writing those checks to those who happen to possess those oil and gas reserves. Those owners have received, as a consequence, more than twelve trillion dollars since 1973 alone. Dubai became a symbol. The ruler of Dubai, the people of Dubai, the investors in Dubai, the breathless commentators on the Wonder That Is Dubai, saw it as a symbol of all that was impressive, all that was so wonderful, all that bespoke of a Bright Future For The Gulf.

Others, however - you and I, for example - may choose to see things differently. We may look at those "arpents de sable," those acres of sand, and see Dubai, or Project Dubai, or Work-Site Dubai, as a symbol of something else. Yes, Dubai does indeed represent what the Arabs think of when they think of civilization. It's what impresses them, what they think makes them just as advanced as we are, the inhabitants of Rome or Paris or London or New York. They show the world, they think, that with their cloud-capped Burj Tower, they are as great, no greater, than those who put up skyscrapers in the West, or for that matter, in the East. The luxury of their hotels, each trying to be more absurdly expensive than the next, catering to every idiotic whim and whimsy, are part of that "civilization of luxury" that the rich Arabs, with their retrofitted and specially-made private 747s, and their planeloads of food flown in daily from Hediard and Fauchon, and their planeloads (or in the case of the Arabs waiting off the coast in their yachts, boatloads) of Western paid ladies to service their every need, think of as "civilization" itself.

They come to the West, which they regard not as a source or model of culture - how could the Western world, the world of Infidels, have anything of intellectual or spiritual value to offer them, Muslims, the "best of peoples"? What the West has to offer are luxury goods, and luxury hotels, and call girls, and gambling of every kind (even if the gambling violates Islam) and wheeling-dealing with the particularly unappetizing kind of Western investment advisers, and estate agents, and lawyers, who flock to such a clientele, and cater to their o'erweening ways, and never display a hint of the contempt that some of them surely must feel.

They live on their yachts, off Marbella - and have boatloads of Western women rowed out to them or they live in Marbella, or on the Riviera, in grand villas. And what goes on behind the high walls of those villas cannot be - or rather can be - imagined. They take over whole floors or wings of hotels. In Monte Carlo, in the summer, visiting Saudis bring with them their own gold fittings for all the bathrooms and have them put in, so that they can enjoy having their water come to them out of gold faucets and spouts - apparently, it's much better that way.

But what the rich Arabs do not do, nor the poor ones, for that matter, is take any interest in things other than what makes the very rich all over the world kin, or at least concolorous. The luxury goods, the expensive hotels and restaurants, the very best bespoke clothes made with the very best materials - all this makes the rich Saudis, Kuwaitis, Emiratis, tutti quanti, feel that they are part of the Western rich, that they are not different from the Western rich, that they are even better than the Western rich, because they do not have to make an effort to be in the same seeming league as the Western rich. But the Western rich are not to be confused with the West, and for the most part -- there are always remarkable exceptions - they do not represent what is best about the West. Rather, they are made possible by the current fashion in economic theory that, one assumes, will soon pass (for the enemies of the very rich are not the poor, but the rich, and while society can - and should - have the rich, the very rich are a different matter).

The very rich Arabs, who travel back and forth from their own miserable, if very rich, lands, to Europe and North America, take no interest in the culture of the West. In the West, Arabs and other Muslims almost never take an interest in the civilization of the people among whom they have, in some cases, come to live, and whose lands they use as a combination fun-fair and brothel. They do not visit the historic sites of Infidels. They do not visit the Louvre, the Prado, the Alte Pinakothek, the National Gallery, the Rijksmuseum. Oh, there are some semi-enlightened Gulf Arabs who think it would be a good idea to rent a little branch of the Louvre (but imagine the headache of trying to choose art work that would meet with the approval of Islam - mostly abstract paintings, or landscapes, will have to do - and certainly no sculpture or depictions of living creatures).

And a few, too, think that the way they can best "educate" their young is to buy or rent a branch of a Western (usually American) university. But they think of what they need to learn from the West as science, or rather, not even science but mere technology, as everyone from Mahathir Mohamad (former head of Malaysia, and former head, as well, of the O.I.C.) to the Muslim Indian propagandist Zahir Naik ("Dr." Zahir Naik) has stated. Naik said that "what we Muslims can take from the West is science, technology" - meaning above all, he made clear, and as is well understood, weapons technology. It is not the structure of DNA, nor little RNA, nor the genome project, nor fractals, nor a Unified Field Theory, nor String Theory, nor anything else that may be waxing hot or running cold in Western universities and research institutes, that interest Muslims. They want to know how to become just as powerful, military, as the Infidel West. That's what they have in mind, when they talk about "science" at all.

Let's return to the hot sands of Dubai. Remember the Burj Tower, that was talked about so breathlessly. It was to have been a Great Achievement in the History of Mankind. Then Dubai's economy collapsed, and with it a view of Dubai, and then, when the topless tower was finally unveiled, in a land now littered with idle cranes and half-completed buildings, it did not make much of an impression. A story, here and there, but only for a day, and then it was on to the next thing. And that was the great tower, the great emblem, of Dubai as a World Economic Power.

But suppose there had been no economic collapse. Suppose the Tower did not have to be named, as it did have to be named, after the ruling family of Abu Dhabi, who lent the money that got Abu Dhabi out of its last crisis, but may not be lending more for the next one. What did that Dubai tower mean? What does it tell us about the state of the Arabs and Muslims, in building a grand new civilization based on the fabulous sums they have taken in?

Consider who built the tower. The architect was German - or was he Austrian? The main contractor was, as so often in the Arab oil states, South Korean. The ordinary workmen were ill treated, essentially working under the conditions of slaves. Their wretched treatment, the miserable sums they receive from rapacious and cruel employers, who so often withhold sums or find ways to cheat those at that level, who cannot fight back and are hopelessly dependent, has been written about before. See, for example, the article by Johann Hari in "The Independent." The squalidness of the vulgar luxury, of which the Dubai authorities (and no doubt other Gulf Arabs) are so inordinately proud, is comical, an offense against good taste every which way one looks. That hasn't kept the kind of press that covers the Arab states from descending upon Dubai at intervals. These people are a little like the bought-and-paid-for movie reviewer who, after his latest junket, gives a glowing review to some obvious Hollywood trash. They ooh and ahh over Dubai's great achievements, which achievements consist entirely in the ability to take money and to put it into skyscrapers, which are supposed to then earn great respect.

Dubai represents what the oil-rich Arabs think of as Civilizational Achievement. It shows what the Arabs are capable of, given all the money in the world. It shows us what they think is a fitting object of their money. And it is fascinating, because we seldom see the fabulous palaces of the Saudi rich, and only occasionally is someone invited, say, to someone's home to enjoy some sheikh's playroom, which among other things might be equipped with a lifesize 747 cockpit, on which one can train as a pilot, or at least simulate what a pilot does. Oh, everyone in the Gulf Arab states has his toys. Dubai stands not only for Dubai, but for the other Gulf Arab states. And it stands for Saudi Arabia itself, where the Al-Saud have tried, and failed, to create self-sustaining agriculture, and now talk about, and plan for, Economic Cities that will supposedly allow Saudi Arabia to develop what, after decades of fabulous oil wealth, it has completely failed to develop: a modern economy, based on something other than oil. Now the Saudis want to create just one university, where they might, they think, offer a real education. They have made that university the richest university in the world, and offer scholarships to lure Western students. But the effort will fail, for the spirit of free inquiry, not to mention the ability for male and female students to mingle freely without armed guards around (already many warnings have been issued about this mingling-of-the-sexes policy), is not there, and the faculty members from the West are not top-of-the-line, but the kind of people who come for the money. It's the best the Saudis (or the other Arabs) can do, as they are always trying to lure Westerners to teach, always hoping that somehow they can acquire something a little more lasting for their oil-based nations.

Dubai doesn't even try. It is full of gold shops, and succursales of every Western store specializing in luxury goods. Shopping is all you can do -- shopping of every kind, and there is not even a pretense that something else might be important. It's possibly the most boring place on earth. The Burj Tower, the touts claim, is "90% full." Don't believe a word of it. But if you care to believe a word of it, if you care to believe that it is 90% full, or even 100% full, so what? Why should we be impressed? There is more culture, more of interest, in a tiny town in Umbria, than in all of Dubai, all of the Gulf Arab states, all of the Arabian Peninsula. They have no idea what the Western world is, and they don't care. They don't care about art, science, literature (save for what Adonis, the Syrian poet, describes as the uninterrupted propagandistic trash that constitutes "Arab literature" today). They have their Burj Tower, with its mosque on the topmost floor - the Furthest Mosque, al-masjid al-aksa, if ever there was one. They have luxury hotels. They have their valet parking, and their car dealerships, and their jewelry shops, and their gold, gold, gold.

There are, apparently, people, primitivized people, who are deeply impressed by such things. They go to visit, or to shop, on Rodeo Drive. But Rodeo Drive, thank god, is not all there is in the United States, or in the Western world. But in Dubai, that is all there is. Dubai is simply Rodeo Drive, on stilts. That's the Arab Renaissance, that's the Arab Awakening. Money, and the spending of money, and nothing else.

For Dubai is Muslim, and Muslims have nothing to learn from the West of an intellectual or spiritual nature. All they need to take from the West is military technology. And all they need to do, to prove just how great they are, is to build higher skyscrapers, and more luxurious hotel suites, and they will have passed and surpassed us, as the Communists, in a different context, always said they would. Let them pass, and surpass us, in their skyscrapers and their luxury hotels.

Who cares?

We have other resources, the kind they would never recognize, or ever understand.

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Exactly,

"Arab Renaissance"?

The oil kingdoms, and Islamic societies in general, are essentially parasites on Western and other civilizations and have been for 1600 years.I doubt if the oil Sheiks realize how precarious their positions are-what the West gives the West can take away.

Great essay Hugh.

As long as Dubai remains inhabited by people who are profoundly handicapped by the pathological belief system of islam, they will forever be doomed culturally and otherwise .They are trying to live in a make-believe Disneyland castle built on sand. Psychologically their buildings are projections of themselves ,fanciful façades , desperately trying to impress greatness, a greatness not of them but purchased from someone else.

-from CNN report:

"'Dubai doesn't really need to have to build tall asides from prestige purposes,' Jim Krane, author of 'City of Gold: Dubai and the Dream of Capitalism' told CNN in a recent interview.

"'If you look at it, it's a really bad idea. It uses as much electricity as an entire city. And every time the toilet is flushed they've got to pump water half a mile into the sky,' he said.

"The telescopic shape also presents problems of a more practical nature Krane says.

"'The upper 30 or 40 floors are so tiny that they're useless, so they can't use them for anything else apart from storage. They've built a small, not so useful storage warehouse half a mile in the sky,' he said."

-from:

"Debt-hit Dubai opens world's tallest tower"

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/01/04/dubai.burj/index.html

Right on Hugh..

If the Burj Dubai is too shiny, confidently designed and expertly engineered to be a ruin itself, it is surely the marker -- the tombstone -- for some ruined ideas.


-- Christopher Hawthorne

Excellent essay.

One idea that crossed my mind when I read Hari's article some months ago: Dubai was meant to be a hyperreal, fabricated Israel. It should flourish in the middle of the desert, be a sort of miracle, an example, a symbol. But the Arabs can't even build a decent simulacrum, now can they? Israel was built by people from all over the world, driven by messianic hope, religion, creativity - and despair; it was built by the people that had almost been anihilated by the most insane and monstrous organised movement ever. The importance of the University of Jerusalem, and the extreme effort that was put into its foundation, for the creation of a State (Israel) is historically unique. Israel flourished from the desert sand in a model democracy, and in Her soil the most perfect actualisation to date of the socialist ideal of equality was accomplished, the kibutzim.

Just as Palestine strives to be viewed as Israel (the oppressed people, the ones who suffer "genocide" etc.), forcing Israel to be viewed as Nazi Germany (terrorist, genocidal etc.), in a specular perversion - i.e., Palestine as the simulacrum of Israel - so Dubai had to forfeit these great accomplishments of Israel... But through oil money, slavery, gold and shallowness. IMO, Dubai's another weapon for the Islamist agenda of annihilating Israel.

(sorry for my poor English, I had to write this very quickly)

You have certainly shown how the Gulf Arabs have confused the symbol with the substance, Hugh. Believing that attacking the Twin Towers was attacking the substance of the West was to be expected, I guess. But such Arabs and many Muslims generally have certainly remedied that mistake subsequently by attacking the substance - freedom of speech and belief, the rule of law, equal treatment under the law, and so on.

Wealthy Arabs do not confine their opulent attentions to the northern hemisphere. Australia's Gold Coast for example has been a favourite destination for some years now. As well as surf, sun and sand, there are casinos, easily available women and plenty of good booze (if you except Bundaberg Rum) - and a thousand cash-hungry dhimmis rushing around to cater to every want. Though more perceptive Westerners who cater to these wants and whims are often disgusted by what they see and hear.

Western universities and other tertiary institutions have had a huge surge of young Saudis, of both sexes, welcomed by many universities and governments with open arms. While some may suspect that some students are later-day remittance men (and women), others are highly optimistic that exposure to good Western ways will, long-term, effect significant changes back in Saudi or wherever. Many students, especially into their second year, are happy to stay with infidel families.

You mention Arab literature. When both Edward Said AND David Pryce-Jones praised an Arab novel to the skies, 'Season of Migration to the North' by Tayeb Salih, I thought it worth a look. A good, but not a great novel, and dominated by an obsession of the main character and the narrator (semi-autobiographical), both Sudanese, with sex and relationships with Western women. Have you come across it?

... imagine the headache of trying to choose art work that would meet with the approval of Islam - mostly abstract paintings, or landscapes, will have to do - and certainly no sculpture or depictions of living creatures...

It should have been a warning, all those years ago, when the Impressionists rose up and took the focus down and replaced it with fuzziness, approximation.

*** 92:8 ***

And only a few decades later were replaced by abstractionsits, cubists, who made it so that an "artist" no longer had to have the talent or determination to draw, to replicate life, and that new penchant, the penchant to readily embrace unreality, made up stuff, has greased the skids for a long slow slide into Islamization, which presents itself as the Final Solution, as it has from the outset.

Dubai - where every Westerner and Arab can live like a king on the backs of passportless Indians and Philipinos. In spite of years of learning to be nice to poor people. Just don't mention the Religion of Peace.

This article also worth a read - a rare occasion of Hugh and the UK Independent's Johann Hari being in agreement?

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html

"a rare occasion of Hugh and the UK Independent's Johann Hari being in agreement?" -- from a posting above


Rare indeed, given Johann Hari's fislike of, and hostility toward, Israel.

But if he could come round on Israel, which would require him learning a lot more about

1) the history of the Jews in Western Christendom
2) the history of the Jews under Islam
2) the history of the Middle East, with special attention to the League of Nations' Mandate for Palestine
3) the significance of Israel in the history and the civilization of the West
4) the indispensability of Israel's survival, at this point, to the survival of the West
5) the ideology of Islam
6) the history of Islamic conquest, and the subsequent subjugation, over the past 1400 years, of many different non-Muslim peoples on formerly non-Muslim lands

then he might come round. he might -- just -- be tolerable. But it's a big if. On the other hand, Johann Hari likes Nabokov, which suggests he is salvageable. Nabokov, famously philosemitic, and not only because, as some (such as the late Zinaida Shahovskaya) of Vera Nabokova, was more pro-Israel than the Israelis, and donated money to Israeli charities. But then Nabokov knew a lot more about the world, had endured the Bolsheviks and the Nazis, and was far wiser, than Johann Hari.

A hole dug deep enough to put a sky scraper in!

Only one question remains. How long will we wait before some Pious Muslim flies a fuel laden Plane into it? Especially considering it's inspiration comes directly from Western Infidels.

"How long will we wait before some Pious Muslim flies a fuel laden Plane into it?"

Yes, we are all thinking that, aren't we?

Thank you, dear Hugh, this is a great essay.
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There is more culture, more of interest, in a tiny town in Umbria, than in all of Dubai, all of the Gulf Arab states, all of the Arabian Peninsula.
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This is so very true. The West is a never dwindling source of culture, a place where you can find all sorts of cultural development, effervescent with new poetry, new liteature, new art and new music, and as you mentioned the great development of science, m-theory, unified field theory and the like.

Arabia is void, its luxury absolutely soulless. It's hardly surprising that in the Middle East a region of great cultures in antiquity, such as Egypt, Mesopotamia, Persia and the Jewish kingdoms, in the only country devoid of any civilisation, the Arabian peninsula a barbaric religious ideology emerged that only found its counterpart in the 20th century when Hitler founded the empire of a thousand years. Fortunately this nightmare was over after twelve years, but it cost an awful lot of lives.

Now Islam is nearly 1400 years old and it's not only haunting our dreams but very much sabre rattling and terrorising us in reality as well. And it goes without saying that it still hasn't achieved anything spiritually, philosophically, scientifically whatsoever. All Muslims do know about is warfare, oppression, suppression, repression, and as we all know Islam means submission.

The newly-opened Burj Khalifa—currently the tallest building in the world—was designed and engineered by Skidmore, Owings, and Merrill of Chicago.

The primary contractor was Samsung C&T of South Korea, who also built the Taipei 101 and Petronas Twin Towers. The major subcontractor was Belgian group Besix.

In what significant way is this tower Dubaian? In what significant way is it Arab, or Muslim?

Cooperation, Agreement, Reciprocity, Humility, Self-Correction...and so we were able to make the Hubble Telescope, and lift it out into orbit, and look deep, deep into the universe, and see things of extraordinary beauty:

http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/opo9544a.html

And we, non-Muslim humanity, just within the West, have also been able to create things like this:

http://milan.arounder.com/en/churches/milan-s-duomo-cathedral

and this:

http://www.koelner-dom.de/17411.html

and this:

http://www.abcgallery.com/B/bonnard/bonnard77.html

and this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paradiso_Canto_31.jpg

"In what significant way is this tower Dubaian? In what significant way is it Arab, or Muslim?"

exactly. it's glowing capitalism.

but when I say totalitarianism in our age (i.e., disregarding Stalinism) is absolutely dependent on capitalism, I'm a "lefty". abre los ojos.

I agree with Hugh, there is nothing that Dubai brings to the world to uplift humanity. How can a town built on slave labor offer anyting to humanity? The only thing the Gulf Arabs value is winning or being the best or the tallest etc. They will buy their way into anything, and sacrifice thier own dignity to obtain it. For a culture that values "honor" more than anything, their vision of "honor" appears as sterile as the "Empty Quarter" of their subcontinent. They set world records in some of the equine sports but any self respecting horseman of the West wouldn't waste their time competing there because, well, they cheat. So they compete against their cousins while we yawn at the news.

This was a wonderfully written piece, sir.
I wish I had more time to add to the discussion, but I wonder, what would be the result of a 9/11 style attack on this symbol? Sympathy? A new accmodation w/ islam which, I think, would only accelerate, or at least aid, in the advancement of islam in the west? I can see the headlines..."We're all Moslems now!"!!! Ugh!
Also, as mac said at the top, we need to take away the $! Drilling here is paramount (anyone know of the Bokken Oil Reserve?) and we should prepare for the eventual (soon, from what I've read recently) collapse of saudi oil production and opec in general. The shoe will be on the other foot, but as with all totalitarion, oppressive systems of governance, they depend on violent expansion and the theft of other societies wealth. The assault on the west via stealth jihad may have a deeper meaning when the desert runs dry.

Excellent stuff Hugh, but I have a comment from the "Eats Shoots and Leaves" Department:

I think
"They show the world, they think, that with their cloud-capped Burj Tower, they are as great, no greater, than those who put up skyscrapers in the West, or for that matter, in the East."

should read:
"They show the world, they think, that with their cloud-capped Burj Tower, they are as great, no, .... greater, than those who put up skyscrapers in the West, or for that matter, in the East."

Agreed???

Do you even have a point to this rambling mess, Mr. Spencer? I am addressing Robert Spencer, aren't I? You need to keep these "essays" to about 150 words to keep your malarky from going off the rails. Do you have any evidence or sources to back up your "rich-Arabs-owning-yahts-with-gold-fixutre-fetishes" assertions?

Here are two fun facts to considers:

1) Most Arab, rich, poor of middle-class, look down on Dubai as all that is unIslamic. They see nothing beneficial to Arab culture in Dubai with its bars, nightclubs and skyscrapers.

2)Ninety-five percent of the new buildings in Dubai are designed by Western architects and built by U.S., British and Chinese builders. Not only does Dubai value Western technology, but Western design.

"13 Martyrs":

You're an extraordinary careless reader. As indicated by the "Fitzgerald" in the headline and the "posted by Hugh" in the tagline, this particular rambling mess was written by Hugh Fitzgerald, not by me. For my own rambling messes, you'll have to go elsewhere on this site.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

A wonderful and well written article - I wonder if they would print it in the Times or the Guardian ? Answer; NO !
One of the posters alluded to someone flying a plane into the ghastly monstrosity that is the Tower. Funny thing is it is the first thought that crossed my mind when I saw it.
You are absolutely correct in your analysis that Muslim "culture" is non-existent. When I try to point this out to people they react with shock. They trot out the old line that we were saved by the muslims preserving ancient texts and inventing anything from optics to the numeral system. I despair that these people have swallowed the whole lie kit and caboodle. All you have to do is ask what they have invented in the last thousand years that has had a lasting impact on the development of Medicine, Physics, Philopsopy etc. The answer is very little.

Nice one Robert ! I disagree that you write "Rambling Messes" as I have all your books (apart from the latest one that I will purchase forthwith). If this is a "rambling mess" can I have my money back ?

" Not only does Dubai value Western technology, but Western design." That is because Muslims cannot do design or technology as thier barbaric religion mitigates against it. The things they can do are, conspicious consumption, terrorism, brainwashing thier adherents, FGM, Homophobia, exonophobia, anti-semitism, mysogniny, larceny and ignorance. Did I leave anything out ? As to your earlier point about rich muslims extravagance I happen to know someone who actually designed one of the palaces inhabited by a Saudi Prince. The bar was in the basement,where he and his friends would get pissed out of thier minds (can't say I blame them) His wives flew to France for thier shopping and one of them had no less than 1500 dresses and pairs of shoes etc etc. Sometimes when she got fed-up with a dress she would just throw it away ! They called the architect back to construct a special building to house all the clothes that she liked and apparently she never wore the same dress twice - she just bought more and more and more. The Prince also had a Yacht and a personal Jet. And yes, he did have gold taps both on the Yacht and in his Palace. Apparently according to my friend this is not unusual for these money grubbing,supposedly pious, Saudi parasites.Also when the wives and husbands of these pious muslims got on a plane to do thier "shopping" the pilot would announce when they left Saudi airspace. These pious muslims wives would then take off thier Burquas and reveal full western dress and the men would get absolutely blathered. So before you criticise Hugh or Robert perhaps you would assist other muslims to eradicate the injustices and deformities in your own culture and perhaps reform your religion so that you can join the 20th century. FAT CHANCE OF THAT METHINKS.

Very nice article. If you like a long read take a look at this one. It shows a much more "on the ground" view of what is really going on there.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html

Hey DDA, great to see you back again! Thought you'd headed off somewhere..... I guess no keepin' a good JW'er down....
Cheers,
Meeker from Hong Kong

Hey DDA, great to see you back again! Thought you'd headed off somewhere..... I guess no keepin' a good JW'er down....
Cheers,
Meeker from Hong Kong

In defence of Johan Hari, the first I saw him was at the launch of UK's "One Law for All" coalition, in Dec 08, in which he spoke well and eloquently against Sharia, quoting cases in Germany where judges had handed down scandalously lenient sentences in honor killing cases, in consideration of the "cultural aspects" of the killings (ie, Dhimmi Judges).

This group has the wonderful Maryam Namazie in the lead and Ibn Warraq on the committee. I posted video at site below. Takes an hour or so to watch, but well worth it, I thought.

http://thebattleoftours.blogspot.com/2009/09/one-law-for-all.html


I think it's a good idea to move the U.N at Dubai,the U.N is already an empty shell, it will be an empty shell in a physical and spiritual desert,it is a more appropriate place for the United Nation than in the Heart of the Western World.

No, Mr. Spencer, I was reading your work under the Fitzgerald byline and Hugh posting. Please, enough deception.

"13 Martyrs":

Oh, I see. You're one of the "Robert Spencer IS Hugh Fitzgerald" conspiracy theorists! Well, while I wish I could write with such elegance and erudition, I must burst your bubble. While Hugh makes few public appearances, he did speak at a conference in Nashville last year (the one that threats from your coreligionists caused to be moved at the last minute), and I was speaking elsewhere at the same time. Multiple conference attendees, I am sure, can attest to having seen Mr. Fitzgerald's presentation. Nice try, however!

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Do you have any evidence or sources to back up your "rich-Arabs-owning-yahts-with-gold-fixutre-fetishes" assertions?"
-- from a posting above by a defender of Arabs and Muslims

Everyone knows about the yachts, for god's sake. Start with the Nabila, and work your way up, down and sideways. And don't stop with the yachts -- make sure not to overlook all the specially-outiftted 747s that the richest of Arabs buys as his flying pleasure dome, his aerial Xanadu.

As for the evidence of the "gold fixtures," it comes directly from someone who works in Monte Carlo, and is intimately familiar with the hotels there, the very ones in which various rich Gulf Arabs estivate. It is he who told me, no longer in amazement (nothing about the rich Arabs amazes him any longer, just the willingness of Westerners to indulge them in their decadence), about how the staff would remove the regular bathroom fixtures, quite opulent enough for most billionaires, and replace them with the gold fixtures brought, for their personal use, by the Arab clientele. That's evidence enough for me. But the stories one could tell, the names one could name -- what is flabbergasting is that the American government does not start amassing information of this sort, even put out a YouTube video of the rich Arabs at play (possibly with just a hint of future chantage if they don't stop p building mosques and madrasas all over the West, and buying up academic departments, and paying off journalists and businessmen, and paying for campaigns of Da'wa all over the Infidel world). Oh, there's a lot that can be done, to remind the world's Infidels and the world's poorer Muslims, of just how the vast sums the Arabs have acquired are spent. Spent to undo the West, through those mosques, madrasas, campaigns of Da'wa, but never shared with the oil-less Muslim countries, despite their peoples being fellow members of the Umma -- no, that kind of aid is left for Infidels to provide, and we Infidels are sick and tired of paying for Muslims, especially since their economic wretchedness comes from Islam itself, the very thing we should wish would be held up for inspection and understanding, and if we keep rescuing Muslim states, with our aid, the local Muslims will never have to ponder what it is about Islam that holds them back economically as in every other way.

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"hey are as great, no, .... greater,"
-- suggestion from a poster above

I don't think the pause needs to be indicated that way, though I admit there are no marks on the page to indicate how one is to properly read (at the lectern in one's inner auditorium) "no greater" --- with a slight pause after the virtually suppressed "no" and the heavily-stressed "greater." I could have made this clearer, I suppose, with a "they are as great, nay greater" -- but I think few would have been as amused as you and I would have been at the hint of self-mockery in that "nay" which can only nowadays put people in mind of W. C. Fields doing Micawber with blustery fustian.

should read:
"They show the world, they think, that with their cloud-capped Burj Tower, they are as great, no, .... greater, than those who put up skyscrapers in the West, or for that matter, in the East."

How about:

"They show the world, they think, that with their cloud-capped Burj Tower, they are as great as -- no, greater than -- those who put up skyscrapers in the West, or for that matter, in the East."

That's what em dashes are for (notice too how the insertion of the em dash clarified the need for another "as").

I took a look at the article as suggested above (Dubai opens Burj Tower) and clicked on the additional pictures.
I was immediately struck by the similarity between...the Burj Tower...and...the evil tower(s) in the 'Lord of the Rings'
Anyone else?


I took a look at the article as suggested above (Dubai opens Burj Tower) and clicked on the additional pictures.
I was immediately struck by the similarity between...the Burj Tower...and...the evil tower(s) in the 'Lord of the Rings'
Anyone else?

"...the wonderful Maryam Namazie..."


In the article linked below, Maryam Namazie articulates a vividly anti-American stance, basically saying that in the world today there are two poles of terrorism -- and one of those poles is the U.S.A. Here's what the "wonderful" Maryam has to say as she articulates what she means by "...the USA's adverse role in today's post-Cold War world":

"Iraq is a model for what the USA represents for the 21st century - insecurity, disorder, poverty and hunger, mass unemployment, destruction, carnage... No claims of weapons of mass destruction, liberation from dictatorship, a defence of rights and a war on terror can conceal its real nature. In Iraq, it is stripped naked and bare. It is itself the only state to have used the atomic bomb; it itself supported the dictatorship it has 'liberated' the people of Iraq from; it is itself the main cause of the Iraqi people's rightlessness. And despite its claims of fighting a war on terror, the USA is itself a pole of international terrorism in the world today.

"And it is not just Iraq.

For profit and hegemony, the US ruling class would turn this world, including America, into another Iraq if it could. "

http://maryamnamazie.com/articles/USA_political_Islam_humanity.html

Namazie's Chomskyite Trotskyism has no place in the anti-Islam movement.

13 martyrs must explain how two equally admirable but entirely different and distinctive writing styles can possibly be the work of one man. Only Craig Brown could do that.

"There is more culture, more of interest, in a tiny town in Umbria, than in all of Dubai, all of the Gulf Arab states, all of the Arabian Peninsula."

Hugh, that is so true.

I also agree that "money cannot buy civilization".

For about four days at the beginning of January I *was* offline...I was in Canberra, taking two of my children (son, 19 years, brilliant artist, currently about to begin his third year of a Uni course in Visual Arts; daughter, nearly 12, similarly artistically gifted) to contemplate the Masterpieces from Paris - Van Gogh, Cezanne, Gauguin, Bonnard, Monet, etc etc etc - at the National Gallery. I wanted my two smart, talented artists-in-the-bud to see the actual paintings - things like 'Starry Night' and Gauguin's lovely Tahitian girls on the beach - right up close, 'in the real', on the wall. It was stunning.

And, of course (lots of representations of living beings, including a good few gorgeous late 19thC and early 20th-C French females) very, very unislamic! I saw, in the streets of Canberra, a couple of what another poster at this site, one Esmerelda Weatherwax, calls 'hijabettes' (who would have been firmly reminded they were not in dar al Islam, when they saw me, because I was wearing, as I usually do, a little pendant cross); but NOT inside the National Gallery of Australia! No sign of any hijabs nor their bearded lords-and-masters, inside the exhibition; which had already been seen by some 60 000 art-loving Aussies, since it opened in December. And doubtless many, many more 'artistic pilgrims' will be beating a path to Canberra before the exhibition moves on to Tokyo in April.

@ Hesperado: thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that side of her (Maryam Namazie). I confess my comment was based just on seeing her at the One Law for All conference, where she spoke eloquently against Sharia.
A thought though: given that she is so hard-left, and given that the Left is in thrall to political Islam (i.e. "dhimmi" in its attitude), then it would/could be useful to have someone on the Left who is at the same time very critical of Islam as we see its issues here at JW. Eg, in the article you quote above, she also says
"Political Islam and its ruling class would also turn this world into another Iraq if it could. This vile movement may make many claims as the USA does in order to legitimise its barbarity - from people's liberation to democracy to rights - but they are only claims to dupe and legitimise. It cares as much for the liberation of the people of Palestine and Iraq as the USA does - not more, not less. Both will indiscriminately maim and slaughter the very people they claim to defend."
Ok there's the anti-US thing there, but there's also the anti-Jihad thing there and if perhaps someone like here could bring over more of the left to see the dangers of Islam, that would be good, no? (or is that overly naive?)

There are a couple of problems with your essay, in my opinion:

1. You lead us to believe that Dubai is a representation of the entire muslim world. With the same logic I could single out Las Vegas en say the entire US people is addicted to gambling and admires kitsch architecture.

2. You take credit for cultural achievements made by western people in the past, but choose to forget the contributions made by the Arabs (the invention of the 0, 1001 nights etc. etc.).

And when comparing some the very rich in the Arab world with some of the very rich in the Western world, there is not so much difference as to who is more vulgar.

"You lead us to believe that Dubai is a representation of the entire muslim world."

No, that is not what I wrote, nor what I implied. You are an inattentive reader. I took Dubai to be representative of what the Arabs, when they get money, do with it, what they think of as "civilization" which turns out to be a mix of Las Vegas and Rodeo Drive, but chose the latter for my title because its unending vulgar luxe was more to the point. I am perfectly aware that we in the West have our own nauseating vulgarians, but we also have a great deal else, and that is what the rich Arabs apparently do not have. No art, no science, no literature to speak of, no nothing but money and what money can buy.

"You take credit for cultural achievements made by western people in the past, but choose to forget the contributions made by the Arabs (the invention of the 0, 1001 nights etc. etc.)."

I don’t “take credit” for “cultural achievements made by western [sic] people in the past” – I hardly allude at all to those cultural achievements. Despite your "Willem" you must surely be a Muslim offering one more confused apologetic. This "invention of the 0" stuff has been dealt with so many times that it’s boring to go into yet again. We all know the Story of O. Among the things the Arabs took from the East, from the Sanskrit mathematicians was the concept of "O," the numerals we mistakenly call "Arabic," and the rudiments of what, using an Arabic term, we know call "algebra." Similarly, they took – see Dard Hunter’s History of Papermaking – papermaking from the Chinese, and silk manufacture,and a good deal else. Such borrowings are nothing new nor unique in the history of cross-fertilization, but it is silly to lay claim, as original to Muslims, so much of what they appropriated from others.


As for what you call “1001 nights” etc. they were complilations of Persian and, more generally, Indo-European folk tales (see Stith Thompson), written up in Arabic. What of it? Was I required to list, in my essay on Dubai and what it represents, and what it tells us about the view of rich Arabs of what constitutes the modern world, and what they admire, what impresses them, what constitutes in their view advanced civilization, the tales of Scheherezade? Why, in an essay on American policy in Iraq, am I supposed to make sure that I mention, if I am critical of the Muslims in Iraq, the panegyrics of Mutanabbi? Should I also be sure to mention “The Table-Talk of a Mespotamian Judge,” a copy of which, brought from Tikrit itself, I have on my bookshelf? Am I required to remind readers that there have been works of art, or literary art, to come from the Arabs, especially those that are nearly a thousand years old, whenever I write about Iraq, or any other Arab state, today?

Why? Because it will make Muslims feel a bit better, less wounded in their self-esteem?

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