Try it for yourself. I just did. Report on Arrakis has the story: search for "Christianity is" at Google and a host of negative recommendations pop up:
But when you search for Islam, no negative recommendations come up -- indeed, no recommendations at all:
Go ahead, try it. I didn't believe it until I did.
Will Google next delete pro-freedom, anti-Islamic supremacism websites?
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It works for me tho'. I typed "Islam is bullshit" and I got many lists from google:
http://www.google.com/search?q=islam+is+bullshit&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
I typed "Islam is not a religion" and google revealed this:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=HiY&q=islam+is+not+a+religion&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
What browser do you use? I use Firefox.
A while back if you did a Google search for Mosque, it would show churches, but no mosques. Typical google crap.
Do the same search using Bing and you get:
islam is of the devil
islam is the light
islam is evil
islam is the light baby doll
islam is a lie
islam issues
What he means are the suggested dropdowns that you get when you begin typing in the google search window. I have Mozilla, and get the same result. Found a nice suggestion for takfir, though!
I tried, and sure enough, the drop down menu comes up with no suggestions at all. It has been actively disabled, there is no other explanation.
Heavy-duty.
You still get the negative drop downs if you type "Muslim is", but the drop-downs for "Muslims are" have all been deleted, too.
They also do not block negative drop down suggestions for "Judaism", "Atheism", "Hinduism", "Buddhism" and "Agnosticism". Islam gets the special treatment.
There is an old saying: "Put your money where your mouth is". The leaders of Islamic society are very willing to do this. They have the big mouth and the big money. They get their way.
Indeed.
An actual search for "judaism is false" yields about 2 million hits, while "islam is false" yields about 12 million.
So it can't be filtering recommended searches based on prevalence.
Google also famously caved in to the ChiComs over lots of stuff, esp. Tibet, Dalai Lama, Taiwan, Folun Gong, etc.
I thought that drop down menu was for search terms that have already been entered by others. Suggestions sort of.
i think its a bug in I.E. i have both fire fox and i.e. both seem to have bugs i find while looking at J.W. that i cant let the page chose the coulor of i get a black screen but as for ie and google well gogle is publicly traded and i would look to see if a islamist group is a voting share holder
that could get negative stuff on islam blocked but ie has bugs too i tried looking up sexuality and the disabled for example and i got a ton of porn with Google using ie but the same search with fire fox and Google got a ton of useful sites for disabled peaple with spinal cord injury's dealing with the changes that we face in sexuality after a cord injury (yes i have that type of injury) but certain subjects like islam And i.e. and google seem to get blocked
by something in the browser
i think its a bug in I.E. i have both fire fox and i.e. both seem to have bugs i find while looking at J.W. that i cant let the page chose the coulor of i get a black screen but as for ie and google well gogle is publicly traded and i would look to see if a islamist group is a voting share holder
that could get negative stuff on islam blocked but ie has bugs too i tried looking up sexuality and the disabled for example and i got a ton of porn with Google using ie but the same search with fire fox and Google got a ton of useful sites for disabled peaple with spinal cord injury's dealing with the changes that we face in sexuality after a cord injury (yes i have that type of injury) but certain subjects like islam And i.e. and google seem to get blocked
by something in the browser
I just tried the search "islam is a scam" and got 1,480,000 results. Seems to work just fine.
Its also bad when you travel a lot and your hotel internet service blocks sites like these for "hate-speech" or some such. When you take a closer look, you often find that such hotels are either managed by Pakistani Muslims or that they have Muslim internet fiddlers blocking the sites. Rather annoying...
The other day I lost a whole page on my blog, something I been working on for a long time. Spooky!
Any idea how that can come about?
Robert, Regardless of what Google and the MSM and the other enablers of evil may do, the word is out: Muslims are trouble. This information will only reach more and more. We need not kid ourselves any longer, in the manner of TSA and other PC enablers: people KNOW who the murderers are. Muslim whining is now so old, so tired, and wearing so thin.
I've verified this weirdness in Firefox on Windows 7.
Not a problem that Photoshop can't fix fast :)
But I have something strange, that doesn't quite corrobate that this is to appease Islam. Try this one:
"Nazism is"
Or:
"Taoism is"
No suggestions here, either. It might be based on word length, not intentional manipulation.
"I just tried the search "islam is a scam" and got 1,480,000 results. Seems to work just fine."
Ben, he's referring to the drop down menu that comes up. Not one's ability to search or the number of results for that search.
Type "Christianity is" in the search bar and you get the drop down menu. Then type "Islam is" and you get no drop down. You get drop down menus for all other religions except Islam.
Yahoo 'cache' also appears to be affected. Over the last several weeks, if I wanted to search for jihad or islam related info, yahoo will provide links - from a leftist/apologists CAIR approved viewpoint first(old hoopers name will be there). Frequently, when clicking on a cache request for a link the page will load the yahoo header with the search items highlighted but the page below remains empty. . . even after refreshing. If refreshed more than once, the yahoo main page appears. Other times, the cache request results with an apology for not being able to access the link.
Yahoo (google and bing) listings include brief descriptions useful for refining additional search requests at familiar websites like JW. The extra effort to locate the information is a pain in the tuchos but neither yahoo, nor google will ever successfully mask memory or history. When the material is located, no apologist or taqiyya artists veil will conceal it again. The information will be copied and sent to my files for future reference and multiple posting as I see fit.
I often wonder how many of these sorts of things are deliberate corporate decisions, and how many of these are caused by Islamic fifth column members acting on their own without company authority.
I know that as companies get bigger, many roles become more autonomous, and that you simply can't and don't want to watch everyone. Very often employees do what whatever they damb well please, regardless of what official company policy is.
I have personally seen Islamic fascism preformed on behalf of a company, through one or more of their employees, that was not in fact supported by the company.
sarc
Of course, these people are all moderates, and should be given the benefit of the doubt.
Type in "muhammad is", though, and you get a list of recommendations.
Not sure what to make of it.
Not sure what to make of it.
Neither am I. Come to think of it, I'm using Danish Google, which may act differently.
I did it in Firefox and the suggestions I received in the drop down area, sure enough, worked exactly as the article suggested. I e-mailed Google just to see what they say about it. I doubt, however, I receive a reply.
That is weird. From what I've heard of colaberation with the chineese goverment, I wouldn't be surprised Google would do such a thing, though then again it could be just a glitch.
If it is deliberate, why not only block negative search recommendations?
On a whim I also tried a few anti-china searches and I was surprised "china Tiananmen square massacre"[1], "china occupation Tibet" and even "china persecution of Christians" were suggested searches!
[1]This site is correcting me to spell it "Tienanmen" but Google only recognizes it as "Tiananmen" for some reason, probably because of the way Chinese characters translate into English
About a month ago I was using a smaller search engine, never mind...long story, anyways....
typed in Twitter, hit send, get a page full of Twitter stuff BUT....the first item that appeared at the top of the page was Islam4u or something similar. I promptly wrote a letter of complaint, since what the heck does that have to do with Twitter? I asked that question along with "can people pay to get first spot". Never got an answer but 3 days later, I try it again and the islam4u has disappeared.
Interesting.
Just verified. Results matched screen shots exactly.
Google filtering suggestions at their end? I would assume so.
Remember, Google are the idealistic fellows who collaborated with the Chinese gov't to rat out political dissidents and filter out access to material that the Chinese gov't didn't approve of, like say ... pro-freedom and individualist web sites.
But don't worry. The Google people hug trees, eat veggies and disapprove of cigarette smoking.
Doesn't that make you feel better?
I tried it and got identical results from Firefox, Internet Explorer, Sarafi, and Chrome. Apparently they all use the same phrase completion APIs in their browsers. Someone, somewhere, has some explaining to do.
There is definitely a censorship issue here, intended or not. Once having gone past the drop-down suggestion menu, a search for the respective terms "Islam is bullshit" and "Christianity is bullshit" yields respectively 1,100,000 and 957,000 hits, so this has nothing to do with actual search results as indicated by available information.
Keep in mind that the drop-down menu helps one to get to his search results faster by not requiring the entire field to be inputted. By eliminating the "Islam is" suggestions, the Google system requires the user to input the entire phrase to get a result. This means that many lazy or insincere users (or just bad spellers) may not find their desired answers.
On average, a user may find more results for "Christianity is bullshit" than for "Islam is bullshit" because of the menu's lack. Whether or not this is an intended result of Google internal policy is secondary; the practical effect is to present an unbalanced picture of the relative "feelings" about one religion over the other.
Try Jihad is -
First line is my fave!
Jihad is not terrorism
Go Google!
They've done worse for "jihad is," providing only positive (and therefore, false) suggestions.
That indicates we're facing more than some Useful Idiot Dhimmi following the politically-correct party line.
That's obvious obfuscation for jihad.
(At least they haven't manipulated suggestions for "Muhammad is" yet. Try it.)
These Islamists are ready to go to any length to practice Taqiyya, it is funny how the western leaders are almost indifferent to the real cause of terrorism.
I just googled 'obama is' and the drop down list is strictly anti-Obama, I'm sure BO will be willing to censor that list if it gets to his attention, this could be anything, but it will not be a total waste of time if one keeps watch to see what changed as time goes.
Tried it on Google Chrome, IE, & Opera browsers - got the same results, sad, tho.
Good grief. I just tried it, and the exact same thing happened as did for the author. I'm using Firefox, by the way.
It doesn't have anything to do with word length. Try "Jesus is", "God is", or "Bush is", plenty of suggestions there.
I've dumped Chrome and all my Google apps and toolbars. I'll be using IE and Bing for search until this is resolved.
Ya type islam is there is no drop down. islam is the truely false bull shit satanic cult. So no wonder there is no dropdown menus. There is some muslim fifth coloumn working at google or why do other true religions have the drop down menus. Google needs to be taken to task on this.
Google has responded.
They say it's a bug, and will be fixed. Our choice to believe it or not.
They also give an explanation as to why we were getting so different results: English-language suggestion doesn't work well for English-languages searches on non-English Google (got that?).
This should settle things. Now we can (finally) find that Islam is bad :)
A significant point whose implications seem to been overlooked here is that ALL the browsers are giving the same results, whether by Mozilla (Firefox), Microsoft (Internet Explorer), Google (Chrome), Apple (Safari), or Opera (Opera). This suggests that all the browsers incorporate the same API that connects to the same service, and which tracks user keyboard activity and in real time sends back an increasingly detailed list of partially matched phrase completions. This means the problem lies in whoever is offering this service, not in which particular browser one is using. My strong suspicion is that the service, which browser companies like Microsoft and Apple probably license to be able to access from within their browsers, is at Google. My guess is that there is probably a programmer on the staff, most likely a Bay area Leftist ideolog/useful idiot who is responsible for incorporating this outrageous form of censorship into the software. He/she needs to be publicly outed and rebuked/fired, at the insistence of the browser companies, for letting them be accused for something they were not responsible for.
I clicked on the search for myself and you're right - there were no suggestions. However I clicked on the the search button and this is what popped up.
http://searchengineland.com/islam-is-blocked-by-google-suggest-bug-32921
"Google says it’s working to fix a bug in Google Suggest that is blocking search suggestions related to Islam. As The Next Web has reported, typing Islam is into Google shows no terms from Google Suggest.
But replace Islam with a number of other major religions — such as Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, etc. — and Google Suggest shows a variety of terms, including many negative ones like … is a lie, is false, is a cult, etc. The discrepancy between how these religions are portrayed and the lack of suggested terms for Islam is led some to accuse Google of favoritism.
Not so, Google says. A spokesperson tells us: “This is a bug and we’re working to fix it as quickly as we can.”
I guess we should not jump to conclusions(?) Any other thoughts?
I clicked on the search for myself and you're right - there were no suggestions. However I clicked on the the search button and this is what popped up.
http://searchengineland.com/islam-is-blocked-by-google-suggest-bug-32921
"Google says it’s working to fix a bug in Google Suggest that is blocking search suggestions related to Islam. As The Next Web has reported, typing Islam is into Google shows no terms from Google Suggest.
But replace Islam with a number of other major religions — such as Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, etc. — and Google Suggest shows a variety of terms, including many negative ones like … is a lie, is false, is a cult, etc. The discrepancy between how these religions are portrayed and the lack of suggested terms for Islam is led some to accuse Google of favoritism.
Not so, Google says. A spokesperson tells us: “This is a bug and we’re working to fix it as quickly as we can.”
I guess we should not jump to conclusions(?) Any other thoughts?
"Not so, Google says. A spokesperson tells us: “This is a bug and we’re working to fix it as quickly as we can.”" -- from Cate's post.
Of course, that's exactly what a software company WOULD say to cover themselves, isn't it? Sorry, it is the type of thing that we have come to expect from Muslims and their Leftist supporters. No one is likely to step forward to claim credit or malicious intent, nor will there likely be an official investigation to uncover the real culprit, but the effects are just too specific to Islam, with its well known thin skin regarding all things critical of itself, to believe it was nothing more than a programming error. My bet is that is was a purposeful act by an employee of Google.
How does the msg below fit into the ‘it’s a bug’ theory after typing in 'Islam is terrorism'?
"We're sorry but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now."
Get the same thing after changing IPs and sending on another machine.
Gaining mainstream noteriety:
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/google-islam-censorship/
Google claims they are working to fix it. 5th column theory becoming more likely.
The upshot of all this is that:
1. I grant Google is somewhat dhimm-witted
2. However to refrain from suggesting something, i.e. to manipulate drop-down menus, cannot fairly be called censorship.
Censorship is when you prevent others from expressing their opinions, not merely refraining from suggesting an option you dislike.