Who ever heard of a woman in a headscarf committing a jihad terror attack?
Hmmm, let's see. An unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror funding case is complaining about a Muslim being subjected to a security search at an airport. Obviously CAIR would be happy if it succeeds in intimidating the TSA into relaxing searches of Muslims. And by sheer coincidence, the people today who are most intent on sneaking explosives onto airplanes and blowing them up are Muslims. So if CAIR gets its way here, everyone who flies an airplane will be at greater risk.
And yet the mainstream media continues to portray this thuggish, dishonest, pro-jihad organization as a neutral American civil rights group -- as you can see right in the lead sentence of this Detroit News article. "Muslims question full-body search of woman in head scarf: Dearborn native says she was told she was singled out by security," by Oralandar Brand-Williams for The Detroit News, January 7 (thanks to Twostellas):
Detroit -- A national Muslim civil rights group is asking the Transportation Security Administration for clarification on whether Muslim women wearing Islamic head scarves, or hijabs, will be singled out for additional security checks after a traveler said she was targeted for a "humiliating" full-body search at an airport Tuesday.The Council on American-Islamic Relations office in Washington, D.C., sent the letter via e-mail Wednesday after a Muslim woman Tuesday from Washington's Dulles International Airport to Los Angeles said she was asked to remove her hijab and then put through a full-body pat-down search when she refused to take off the scarf.
She said she did consent to a search. The woman told CAIR officials her clothes, luggage, laptop computer and cell phone were searched and tested for bomb-making materials.
Nadia Hassan, 40, of Maryland said she was patted down in front of her daughter, 5, and several male TSA staffers.
"It was very humiliating. It was very uncomfortable," Hassan told The Detroit News via a telephone interview from California. "I didn't say anything. I didn't want to cause any trouble. ... I'm an American. I'm not a foreigner. My country is treating me this way?"
John Walker Lindh is an American. Adam Gadahn is an American. Anwar al-Awlaki was born in New Mexico. With American Muslims waging jihad warfare against the United States, what exactly does Hassan expect the TSA to do?
Hassan, a Dearborn native, said she was told by one of the TSA guards that "I was singled out because I was wearing the hijab" and that the search was part of new rules that went into effect Tuesday. A spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the TSA, did not comment on the incident but said TSA screeners do not single out Muslim women wearing head scarves."The Transportation Security Administration's current procedures for the screening of bulky clothing or headwear -- which have been in effect since 2007 -- remain unchanged. The wearing of a hijab itself does not automatically trigger security checks," said Sarah Horowitz in a written statement to The News. "To ensure the highest level of security, passengers wearing loose fitting or bulky clothing -- including headwear -- may be subject to additional screening."
CAIR National Director Nihad Awad wrote to TSA Acting Director Gale D. Rossides on Wednesday, saying, "If this troubling new policy is indeed in effect, it represents religious profiling in its most egregious form. We respectfully request that you clarify whether Islamic head scarves will now trigger automatic secondary screening for Muslim travelers.
"If so, does this new policy apply to all those who wear religious head coverings, such as Sikh men, Catholic nuns and Orthodox Jewish women, or will it apply exclusively to Muslim travelers?"
Tell you what, Awad: as soon as a Sikh man, a Catholic nun or an Orthodox Jewish woman blows up an airplane, get back to me on this.
Um, Robert, Sikh men did blow up a plane. Air India? 1984, I think it was? Blew up over Lockerbie, Scotland, iirc? Left from Vancouver? Another bomb was stashed on another plane, that killed a Japanese baggage handler in Tokyo. All because, as far as I can tell, Canada was stupid enough to let in Sikh Punjabi separatists who were persona non grata in India.
Hassan, a Dearborn native...
Dearborn, of course. Is there any way we can give Dearborn to the Canadians?
Bann the hijab and the burqa. Sounds like a simple solution to me.
Canada said they would take Dearborn and the entire Detroit metro area, but we had to pony up 500 billion in euros. They just aren't gonna risk taking dollars on such a scale.
Don't want to be singled out when going through the security checkpoint. Don't belong to the cult that thinks bomb vests are appropriate fashion accessory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHEk_kaXmTk
Spirit Wolf
Wow! That destroys my whole argument! Those Sikh terrorists are threatening the entire world! You can find them on every continent, fighting warfare against non-Sikhs and justifying that war by reference to Sikh teachings!
Cordially
Robert Spencer
Oh, is CAIR still around?
I predict that after the next successful Islamic Jihad on our soil, with hundreds or thousands of Americans mass-murdered, they won't be.
If you think they are whining now, wait till muslimah's are subjected to jaded kufrs wearing x-ray glasses that see through clothing...Doug Hooper and company will have a regular hissy fit...
Oh, and by the way, Spirit Wolf, the Lockerbie plane bombing was perpetrated by a Muslim, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, not a Sikh, and it was in 1988, not 1984.
Muslims blow up stuff, governments add additional security, Muslims whine about the security........oh my aching head.
Sure, it is 'humiliating' and 'uncomfortable' to be searched at airports. If it wasn't for religious zealots and Jihad fanatics, that would hardly be needed. And I do understand the desire on part of CAIR to dodge airport security.
However, the problem can be very easily solved:
Ban Muslims from flying altogether.
No uncomfortable, humiliating searches targeting Muslims. No fear from non-Muslims for what those loud, Arab-speaking men are up to. And much better security, too.
BTW, the woman in the picture seems to hold exactly the edition of the quran I usually quote...
spirit wolf, from your description it sounds like this flight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182
the point remains though that profiling should be used to focus security checks on high risk groups.
If, based on historical evidence, 99% of the risk is with group A and 1% with group B then it stands to reason that group A should be subjected to additional procedures to bring the risk back in proportion to group B.
Or put in another way, if you had two people standing in front of you and you were told the left person had 99% more chance of being a terrorist than the person on the right and you could search only one person (limited resources) - which one would you search to minimize overall risk?
Political correctness of course would tell you to search the person on the right so that that one does not run the risk of discriminating against the higher risk group.
I realize that, Mr Spencer, but still, it has happened, and is still a sore spot for a lot of folks up this way, especially since the perps were allowed to walk. :s To say no Sikh ever blew up a plane would just be a lie, and wouldn't reflect well.
But yeah, I'd sort their luggage out for special checking too, particularly if they came from Canada, though they're mostly known here for massive immigration fraud.
http://www.immigrationwatchcanada.org/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=2310 (among many other examples they have there).
'm an American. I'm not a foreigner. My country is treating me this way?"
She has managed to acquire American citizenship. That is not quite the same thing as being "an American." She is the votary, or adherent, of a Total Belief-System whose books can be open for inspection, and if one reads, re-reads, thoroughly assimilates, what the Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira inculcate, then it is impossible to come to the conclusion that anyone taking such texts, and the tenets that naturally follow from them, to heart, views the world as divided between Believer and Unbeliever, Muslim and Infidel, one where a state of permanent war (though not always of open warfare) exists between the two. The studies of all the Western scholars who wrote in the century (roughly 1870-1970) about Islam, and all the most authoritative books by Musliims too, and the testimony of both travellers through the centuries and now, and of that most valuable group of witnesses, the defectors from the Army of Islam, the articulate apostates (Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan, Ibn Warraq, Magdi Allam, and others of the ilk and station) all tell us one would be foolish -- the Western world, or many in it, now recognize how foolish, how criminally negligent, they were over the past few decades in allowing so many Muslims leaving the misrule of Islam but exhibit behavior quite different from that of real refugees from, for example, the Nazis and the Communists. Refugees from the Nazis and Communists who arrived here did everything they could to warn others, and fight against, Nazism and Communism, respecitvely.
But Muslims come here, as they arrive in Western Europe in even larger numbers, to enjoy what the non-Muslims have wrought in those Infidel nation-states that many Muslims see as territory that naturally belongs, as the whole world belongs, to Allah and to the "best of peoples," the Muslims themselves. Their temporary Infidel residents will some day be overwhelmed, when all obstacles to the spread and then the dominance of Islam are removed, and the chief instruments of Jihad, are at present not qitaal (combat) or terrorism, but rather the Money Weapon, campaigns of Da'wa, propaganda to confuse and delay Infidel understanding of Islam and to weaken the West's resolve, or the resolve of all Infidels, to intelligently defend themselves and, finally, demographic conquest, made easier by the generous welfare systems in Western Europe, whereby Infidel support pays for large Muslim families, and the unceasing arrival of other Muslims, many of them falsely declared as part of "family reunifiction" (see the results of DNA testing of claimed Somali "relatives" in this country), many entering, particularly in Great Britain, as "students" of a thousand bogus schools and colleges, others simply outstaying tourist or other visas and then remaining forever.
They come, they want to stay, they even want to obtain citizenship from whatever Infidel land they have managed to enter into, but that does not mean that the essential loyalty that is reserved only for Islam and fellow members of the Umma, disappears. That loyalty, and the hostility to Infidels and all their works and days, is the essence of Islam, a fighting faith concocted out of pre-Islamic Arab pagan lore, and bits and pieces of ill-digested stories and protagonists from Christianity and Judaism.
There is no reason for Infidels to keep delaying their own study of Islam, using intelligently the sources, Muslim and non-Muslim, that exist, and knowing how to detect the practitioners, for they are so many, and so various, and so relentless, of Taqiyya and Tu-Quoque. Why those whose job is to protect us, in the government, and to instruct us (in the press) have failed to do this, have failed to learn what they had a duty to learn, is a question to be pondered.
Why Muslims who now have grounds for comparison, by living in the West, nonetheless continue to attempt to deceive Infidels about the texts, tenets, attitudes, atmospherics of Islam, and think theyu will be able to do so indefinitely while Muslims all ovber the world exhibit behavior toward all non-Muslims, beginning with the persecution and murder and even mass-murder of non-Muslims (see the Christians in the Sudanese south, the Copts in Egypt, the Assyrians and Chaldeans in Iraq, the Hindus and Christians in Pakistan, Bangladesh, the Christians in the Moluccas and, before, in East Timor, the Hindus in Bali) or the attacks on non-Muslims by those waging Jihad against a non-Muslim authority (as Muslim attacks in Kashmir and the rest of India; attacks on Buddhists in Thailand; attacks on Christians in the Philippines) or even, in the Western world, not only support for, and attempts to prevent perfectly sensible defenses against, terrorist attacks on Infidel targets, and a nonstop aggressive campaign of confusion, distraction, aggressive attempts to prevent a real understanding of Islam (see CAIR, see a dozen other groups and groupuscules, some of them called "civil rights groups" by the unthinking).
Muslims who leave Muslim-dominated lands for what is too-easily called a "better life" in fact are leaving because of the effects of Islam, but they fail to understand their own reality. They leave because in the countries they come from there is political despotism (that comes naturally to Muslim states), economic wretchedness (that reflects Muslim hatred of bid'a, innnovation and inshallah-fatalism), and social backwardness (the mistreatment of women.
Muslims have all over the West, in the past few decades, been grtanted the great privilege -- they do not see it as such, but rather as their due, as something they have every right to take, whatever the Infidels think -- of living in the advanced, free, prosperous, stable, comparative paradise of the Western world. That Western world could never have been created, just as none of the greatest artists, writers, musicians, philosophers, or political theorists of the Western could have existed, for one minute in a world dominated by Islam. T
Many Muslims in Western Europe and North America have been granted the great privilege of coming to the advanced, relatively free and prosperous and stable West. That West exists because it did not have Islam to hold it down. Everything about the West, but above all its solicitousness for the individual -- compare the crude collectivism of Islam, where the individual Muslim must never do anything "to harm Islam" and will be punished if, for example, in publicly declaring his own apostasy, he is held to have done so -- is alien to Islam.
Alien, above all, is the political theory according to which the democracies of the Western world have developed. In the free West, our political theory ocates legitimacy of a government in its reflecting the will expressed by the people, rather than the Islamic doctrine, which locates a ruler or regime's legitimacy in the will expressed by Allah in the Qur'an. All political opposition must, for Muslims, be expressed only in Muslim terms: a ruler is supposed to be obeyed, no matter how bad, unless he can be depicted as un-Islamic, as an "Infidel."
The woman in the article above who call herself an "American" and seems to think invocation of such a word is a magic talisman, a guarantee that we cannot examine her beliefs, or the effect of what she is doing -- to try to make less effective our legitimate, more-than-reasonable, even far-too-timid as yet efforts to protect airline passengers from being blown up by Muslims in the sky. She thinks that declaring "I am an American" is enough, but it isn't. We need to know far more than merely the facts of her acquisition, possibly by birth but more likely through naturalization which assumes (I assume) that the candidate in question will be loyal, at the very least, to the political and legal institutions of this country, and to the American Constitution.;
But we need to ask ourselves, what is the view of this sinister complainer who wishes to make the job of the TSA to protect us harder, what is her view, what is given that she is apparently a deep believer in Islam, her impossible-not-to-hold view, of the United States and its political and legal institutions? Is it one of gratitude, and admiration, and loyalty? The Sharia', that codification of Islam, whose imposition all over the world is deeply desired by deeply believing Muslims (of whom there are hundreds of millions, and we have no way to distinguish those Muslims who do so deeply desire, and those who don't, and must without more assume that anyone calling himself a Muslim does so), flatly contradicts, in letter and spirit, the American Constitution. This is easy to prove. What, then, does Mrs. Hassan believe in, or prefer? The American Constitution, or the Sharia that flatly contradicts it? We don't have to rely, and of course shoudl not rely, on what she, or for that matter CAIR, says. We have ourselves to look at the Sharia and the American Constitution, and compare them. We can start, as a warming-up exercise, by comparing the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, with the Islamic version -- the Cairo Declaration -- of that supposedly "Universal Declaration." Having seen exactly how the latter version vitiates every important individual right guaranteed in the Universal Declaration,we are now ready to compare the most important principles and guarantees of individual rigthts in the American Constitution, with what the Shari'a prohibits and demands.
Such a comparison should be performed in Congress by a clever Congressmen, and it should be performed too, this comparioson of the Sharia and the American Constitution, by intelligent instructors in courses on Constitutional Law, and on political theory, and American history, so that more and more of those who are educated will be properly educated in what distinguishes Islam, as a political and geopolitical doctrine, for Islam is, it must always be repeated, not only or even mainly a "religion" as we unthinkingly apply that term, but a politics, and a geopolitics. And it is the politics, and the geopolitics, of conquest and subjugation, already on display, and available for close examination, for the past 1350 years, if we would only take time from our busy schedules of hectic vacancy and shopping and distracting ourselves to death to merely find out what we need to find out, to read, to study, to re-read, to think, to see what history, magister vitae, can do not only to entertain but to instruct, and thereby to protect us.
An sdyeah, I got my plane bombings mixed up. It was 1985, and blew up over the water off the coast of Ireland, doing a check.
The Japanese fellow was in Narita.
Should have checked Wiki first rather than trying to rely on emmory, mea culpa fo rthat.
But Air India flight 182 was a Sikh separatist thing, I just don't want you look bad by saying something "never" happened when it did.
I don't recall any Catholic nuns or old Jewish women blowing anything up though, you're right there. :-)
Thanks, but no thanks, we have Toronto, aka the GTA (greater turban area)
The solution to avoiding the humiliating treatment of Muslim women is obvious: institute Muslim-only flights. That way we can dispense with all security measures at airports.
Why is CAIR still around and why is it they seem to be gaining rather than losing credibility following the last two terrorist attacks?
"I'm an American" she protests! So f*cking what Major Nidal Hassan is an American too! BTW has anyone checked to see if she is related the Nidal Hassan (who once lived in Maryland)and still has family there?
"She has managed to acquire American citizenship. That is not quite the same thing as being 'an American.' She is the votary, or adherent, of a Total Belief-System ...."
Exactly as you say, Hugh. Alger Hiss was "an American" too. But likewise he was a believer in an anti-American TBS, and that was more important to him than his American-ness.
As for her being "singled out", IF there were other passengers who were wearing IRA-style balaclavas, or Old West stick-em-up bandannas over their faces, or even baggy hoodie jackets with the hoods up, AND they were allowed to board without having to take them off, THEN she might have a complaint that she was singled out.
Raven - Oh, I'm all for profiling. Profile the heck out of Muslims (of any race) and yes, Canadian Sikhs. Though I would search the Muslim if I could only search one. I already know the Sikh is probably going to have a certain weapon on him. :s It'd be the Muslim I'd want to see had anything.
As far as searches goes, I know that Greyhound is doing searches at the downtown Calgary station. My manfriend said that on his way to visit me, he watched EVERYONE going to Vancouver get searched quite thoroughly - bags, pat-downs and even hat-band checks. Olympics coming up, see. And he was even subjected to a random search on his way back, even though he was heading east out of Calgary, rather than west.
I'm just glad he didn't get checked on his way here with my present and that I didn't give him a knife for his present, as I had thought of doing (as a display of trust; I did get stabbed with a kitchen knife by the previous one) but didn't see one nice enough.
The U.S. security woman frisking the elderly nun is wearing
a hijab:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cjd/1418632004/
This is America in the 21st century and welcome to it.
The woman in the article above who call herself an "American" and seems to think invocation of such a word is a magic talisman, a guarantee that we cannot examine her beliefs, or the effect of what she is doing...
It is precisely the unspoken, postmodern redefinition of America as a place in which *all* behaviors, beliefs or expressions must be accepted without question which gives islam its traction politically and culturally. In western cultures steeped in the hard-left cultural equivalence fog, there is no way to defend the whole from a malignant part without impugning the very relativistic MC "faith" the elites would like adopted as the new social standard.
I don't doubt that CAIR and other such miscreants will further marginalize themselves with every petulant, whining hissy-fit they throw in the face of common sense security measures, but the overriding social engineering experiment serving as the backdrop for their efforts needs to be refuted in public and academic discourse before elected officials will implement a sensible response to the islamist threat. You know, re-elections and all...
You are an American by what is in your heart.
What is in the heart of Muslims? Islam, of course.
"It was very humiliating. It was very uncomfortable," Hassan told The Detroit News
Maybe so but, like a digital rectal examination to detect prostate cancer for guys, the process causing her humiliation was for her own good. It got her to where she needed to go to in this world in one piece with higher probability.
But talking of humiliation, I would think that there would be nothing more humiliating than belonging to a religion that effortlessly bares fanatics responsible for just about every terrorist attack in recent history. But judging by their lack of outrage on those matters somehow that seems to be A-OK for Muslims.
ANOTHER AIR SCARE. DAILY NOW.:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking-news/story/1413726.html
Spirit Wuff,
Ever since you suggested to me at my blog that in a mall firefight near a pet store I should try to draw bad-guy fire away from innocent animals, I've looked a bit askanse at whatever you write.
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2009/11/silent-night.html
Your offering here today affirms my assessment. Psssst: we don't want to hear about your boyfriend.
Very interesting story, pc1. I wonder about the others taken off the plane.
now here comes the stealth jihad-lawsuits. next no Muslim women wearing Islamic head scarves, or hijabs, will ever be searched again.
Maybe CAIR should get the memo that flying is a privilege not a right.
If they don't like it...don't fly.
CAIR doesn't know the meaning of "the greater good" unless it pertains to them/muslims.
Sorry lady, but if it weren't for islam in the world, there wouldn't be much of a need for airport security as it is today, nor a Homeland Security" department. So I guess until islam falls off the face of the earth, you'll have to put up and shut up.
Maybe TSA should initiate security searches only for muslims.
Then at least the whining of muslims would be understandable.
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Come to think of it, shouldn't the kafirs be whining?
Mainly about how much security we kafirs have to go through because the muslims insist on carrying bombs and explosives aboard.
Either you are in a war or don't pretend that you are in war. Me think it is most likely the MoSlums could use a hot white recruit, may be dress her like a Nun or something to smuggle some stuff through.
Lets say, a Nun look alike dressed woman, who is hot on Islam, goes through the prime search gate at an airport then hands over the explosives embedded stuff to a MoSlum once they are both through. There are no second checks and there is no second chance.
I am 100% sure the security guys got that one right - SEARCH EVERYONE, ME; YOU and the dog name boo. War is a war, and it is real dirty because we are fighting Islamists. They are prepare to do anything to have us killed.
Spirit Wolf you're obviously a bigot. Spencer's argument is valid, Sikhs, Christians and Jews aren't thirsty for people's blood in a quest for world domination like the Islamic Jihadists. You should read the book 'soft target' before you start making allegations based on the MSM. If you have any evidence about who had bombed the AI 182 plane, then you should bring it forward.
"...she was asked to remove her hijab and then put through a full-body pat-down search when she refused to take off the scarf."
Policy is policy, so deal with it, Princess. I hate this crap ...
What does a female jihadist get for blowing herself up? Are there 72 randy males waiting for her?
Wolf is right to point out the Sikhs were responsible to blowup a plane. I don't remember the details much, it was an India airline which blew-up in the Ocean. There was no survivor. The evidence were apparently lost due to incompetency of the Canadian Government. Lets track back a bit: Sikh separatists were bedding with the Pakistani Government (evidence: several flight tickets to and from Pakistan; bank accounts in Pakistan: openly seen budding with two Pakistani Generals) and these guys hated the Indian Government big-time. The flight was an Indian Airline. There are too many obvious dots that you can connect- it was the handy work of some Sikhs.
BTW - aint Sikhs suppose to go after the MoSlums, why were they in bed with them back in the mid-80s?
F--k the head scarf, anyone who considers surah 9 'Repentence' and the rest of Islamic source material to be the infallible word of God that must be followed to the point of kill or be killed to enter the desert with the stream and a couple dates should not even be allowed on a plane or any other form of mass transpostation. The should be strip searched as they leave their homes and bent over for rectal searches to make sure they are not using the old prisoner storage hatch for chemicals and other weapons. If they do travel on mass transit then it should be in handcuffs behind the back, mouth taped shut for the duration and naked in storage boxes.
F--k the head scarf, anyone who considers surah 9 'Repentence' and the rest of Islamic source material to be the infallible word of God that must be followed to the point of kill or be killed to enter the desert with the stream and a couple dates should not even be allowed on a plane or any other form of mass transpostation. The should be strip searched as they leave their homes and bent over for rectal searches to make sure they are not using the old prisoner storage hatch for chemicals and other weapons. If they do travel on mass transit then it should be in handcuffs behind the back, mouth taped shut for the duration and naked in storage boxes.
F--k the head scarf, anyone who considers surah 9 'Repentence' and the rest of Islamic source material to be the infallible word of God that must be followed to the point of kill or be killed to enter the desert with the stream and a couple dates should not even be allowed on a plane or any other form of mass transpostation. The should be strip searched as they leave their homes and bent over for rectal searches to make sure they are not using the old prisoner storage hatch for chemicals and other weapons. If they do travel on mass transit then it should be in handcuffs behind the back, mouth taped shut for the duration and naked in storage boxes.
F--k the head scarf, anyone who considers surah 9 'Repentence' and the rest of Islamic source material to be the infallible word of God that must be followed to the point of kill or be killed to enter the desert with the stream and a couple dates should not even be allowed on a plane or any other form of mass transportation. They should be strip searched as they leave their homes and bent over for rectal searches to make sure they are not using the old prisoner storage hatch for chemicals and other weapons. If they do travel on mass transit then it should be in handcuffs behind the back, mouth taped shut for the duration and naked in storage boxes.
Patrick ---- gee... did your finger get stuck on the CR key or did you bang your head a couple of times too much on the keyboard?
"Spencer's argument is valid, Sikhs, Christians and Jews aren't thirsty for people's blood in a quest for world domination like the Islamic Jihadists."
Agreed!
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Two days ago, SW, took a swipe at "radical Christians". You know, radical Christians that stand protest outside of abortion clinics, etc; and asserted that these types of Christians "might feel more comfortable as Muslims".
BTW, SW ...Christians are not the only ones standing outside of abortion clinics, so are those in favor of abortion; not to mention those of other faiths that are against abortion. Strange, but you never suggested that any other groups, other than Christians of course, that anyone else might also be more comfortable as a Muslim. Hmm. Why did you aim your comment solely at Christians?
Do you see how bigoted that remark was? You never acknowledged this fact on the other thread. Something to think about, SW.
Take care.
Blueraven, you said it yourself, Sikhs who worked with the Paki Gov't were SEPARATISTS. They weren't intent on taking over the world or even India (which is the goal of jihadists everywhere). R. Spencer's argument as I stated is valid. Also, the Cdn gov't didn't just 'lose' the evidence they had, they erased the audio tapes they had themselves by 'accident'. Some people believe its because they had a guy who they had planted as an agent, Surjan Singh (who's disappeared btw), who actually came up with the idea to commit the violent acts and so the Cdn gov't doesn't want to be seen as setting it all up... like I said read the book 'Soft Target'.
Poor girl, being searched was so humiliating, boohoo! I think it's more humiliating to get killed and smashed to pieces by terrorists.
"Tell you what, Awad: as soon as a Sikh man, a Catholic nun or an Orthodox Jewish woman blows up an airplane, get back to me on this."
I couldn't agree more, not all Mohammedans are terrorists, but all terrorists are Mohammedans, and there are more and more women among them. That's probably emancipation, the Islamic way.
Are there 72 randy males waiting for her?
Well, I think she will be expected to service them. All...
"What does a female jihadist get for blowing herself up? Are there 72 randy males waiting for her?"
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She gets away from her husband on earth.
I didn't say they were trying to take over the world, did I? I simply pointed out that a group of Sikhs DID blow up a damn plane, for whatever religio-political reasons of their own - reasons which had NOTHING to do with _my country_, where it originated, which cost Canadian taxpayers tons of money that could have gone towards better things than investigating them. So, yes, that makes it an act of international terrorism - an attack launched from Canada on Indian interests. And even if they weren't sent to jail, the perps should have been DEPORTED, just like Muslims who attempt things ought to be DEPORTED, citizenship stripped.
The fact is, some Sikhs still here ARE connected with Sikh separatist terror groups, and/or SUPPORT them - "Taliban" Jack Layton was actually lambasted by the public for marching in a Sikh rally that featured PICTURES on signs of KNOWN Sikh terrorists. YES, I would search Sikhs on the basis of this, and if that makes me a bigot, so be it - they might NOT be as high as risk group as Muslims, but they STILL PRESENT A RISK.
As for pointing out, say, the similarities of the USA-hating Westboro Baptist Church, well, they DO call themselves Christian, even if you more proper ones don't like to admit to them. However they're YOUR baby, and it's your responsibility to correct these geeks if you think they're wrong - just like it's the responsibility of Muslims to clean up Islam if they think Al-Q is wrong. However, if you care not to correct them, then be prepared to be lumped by outsiders who will take your self-given labels at face value - just as we take the label "Muslim" at face value. Hell, I never said anything about how disgusting I think Spanish Catholic festivals are, with their goat-tossing and ripping the heads off of geese hanging by the feet are - in some eyes, not much different from Eid. And no pope has ever deigned to stop these festivals (though I did hear that now they catch the goats on blankets after they toss them from the towers, due to pressure from animal rights groups. Just looked it up, apparently the goose festival now features pre-killed geese - but why even do this goofy crap at all?)
And oh, I see posts on here pretty much every day, blaming atheism for all the world's problems with allowing Muslims in. That's not bigoted?
Oh, and Undaunted - I'd like to know if you'd have modified your plans, or at least made a note to be careful, in your little Rambo-wannabe scenario there, if that had been a daycare/playroom instead of a pet store, or if you simply were not concerned about any innocent bystanders who might be cowering around in your
scenario at all.
Oh, and yes, if I happened to meet a Hindu, Buddhist, or other atheist marching outside an abortion clinic, I'd also call them a busybody who wants to control other people's lives, too, and tell them also, you don't like it, don't get one.
"And oh, I see posts on here pretty much every day, blaming atheism for all the world's problems with allowing Muslims in. That's not bigoted?"
You have? ...and nearly everyday?
I've been posting and reading JW for over 6 years now, and I have yet to read a single comment "blaming atheism for all the world's problems by allowing Muslims in."
Please provide some examples, especially since this is apparently occuring "pretty much everyday". Thank you.
Has anyone else read these types of comments?
"I'd also call them a busybody who wants to control other people's lives,"
Calling someone a busybody is one thing, but that's not what you stated two days ago. You actually suggested that these 'kinds' of Christians "might enjoy being Muslim" ...which is a huge departure from calling someone a busybody.
"Has anyone else read these types of comments?" - sure it was at least S-Wolf.
It looks like he/she start to crowd this place a ted-bit and stepping unnecessarily over peoples toes. I don't care much about that as long as he/she remains faithful anti-Jihadists.
I read that some Catholic priest in Europe blamed the atheism on making Islam stronger there. He stated less and less people are attending churches, however the Islamic warshipper are increasing their influence at an exponential rate. He is applying that atheism in Europe is making the Islamic hold stronger. That is absurd, because an atheist have left a pretty liberal religion and he/she aint gonne run for a comfort in Islam. They loath Islam as much as anyone I care to think.
I read that some Catholic priest in Europe blamed the atheism on making Islam stronger there. He stated less and less people are attending churches, however the Islamic warshipper are increasing their influence at an exponential rate. He is implying that atheism in Europe is making the Islamic hold stronger. That is absurd, because an atheist have left a pretty liberal religion and he/she aint gonne run for a comfort in Islam. They loath Islam as much as anyone I care to think.
Well, what do you think I think a Muslim is? A controlling busybody --- with bombs and guns. And yeah, I do think the WBC types would probably be happier as Muslims. Why shouldn't they be? Islam is perfect for being a busybody, as Mo practically said "Thou shalt go forth and hassle all the world over having the wrong lifestyle".
Though, funny, I don't remember Jesus saying anything about abortion, or anything at all like that, really, so I don't even know WHY Christians have a problem with it (at least in so far as others doing as they see fit). I can see Islamics having a problem with it, due to the fact that Mo declared women as chattle that can be forced to breed.
We respectfully request that you clarify whether Islamic head scarves will now trigger automatic secondary screening for Muslim travelers.
Unfortuntely yes.
"If so, does this new policy apply to all those who wear religious head coverings, such as Sikh men, Catholic nuns and Orthodox Jewish women, or will it apply exclusively to Muslim travelers?"
Only to the RoP. It was never our intent that it come to this, but are now forced into it.
"I don't remember Jesus saying anything about abortion, or anything at all like that, really..."
Do you recall what Jesus said about murder? Abortion is murder of the innocent and unborn.
Spirit Wolf, you're a total dumbshit. It's not okay for people to murder pre born human beings anymore than it is okay for Muslims to murder post born human beings. But you keep livin' the life, honey, and telling your self that anything goes. And then hope that you haven't pissed off every Christian on this site so that when some Muslim busybodies come to get you to throw you off a mountaintop one of us will be there to pray for you/and or save your sorry ass.
Isa! ...woohoo! You go, girlfriend!!!!!
Yeah, what Isa said ....
"...so I don't even know WHY Christians have a problem with it..."
I've read many-a-startling comment on JW over the years, but this one takes the cake. What, have you been living under a rock or something? Gee, most people know that Christians are, um, uh ....against MURDER! Good gawd.
A muslima from Halifax was denied entry into the US at Halifax Airport, claims she was discriminated against.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2010/01/06/ns-muslim-flight-profile.html
She lives in Halifax, her husband lives in Cleveland, Ohio. Apparently she had a one way ticket.
The comments under the article are not sympathetic.
You know what I would like to know? How does wearing the hijab make her more modest than any other woman on the face of this earth, and how does searching her in particular, just because she wears a hijab, humiliates her more than it might humiliate any other woman? Dear, just because you wear that tarp on your head does not give you any privelages over others.And please, someone tell CAIR it is becoming too boring to hear them whine and cry Islamophobia every time things don't go their own way.
Also, if you are a true American, you would not mind being searched for the safety of your fellow Americans and others flying on the same plane with you. As a matter of fact, you should do it with patriotism and dignity, if you have any. You do not like it, go back to your original country and see how they treat you with dignity and respect. We are SICK and TIRED of your attitudes and whining.
Funny thing is - and this was a surprise to me when I read it - in Nonie Darwish's book on sharia "Cruel and Usual Punishment" [p. 140] she states that abortion is *not* illegal under sharia (whereas, btw, *adoption* is explicitly and strongly forbidden !). And since she grew up in a sharia-suffused Muslim society, and also did additional research in order to write her book, I assume *she knows*.
Figures. After all: it would come under the rubric of there being no retaliation for a parent or grandparent who kills their own offspring, the one that makes life easier for all those Mohammedan males who ritually sacrifice their female kin in pride murders aka 'honor killings'.
"If so, does this new policy apply to all those who wear religious head coverings, such as Sikh men, Catholic nuns and Orthodox Jewish women, or will it apply exclusively to Muslim travelers?"
Yes, if they start trying to blow things up as often ss Moslems do, I would be happy to do a full cavity search on them. As a matter of fact, you were not searched before you came in here........."
Also, if someone has to go back a quarter of a century to find an example of something, it is not a very pressing matter(personal emotions aside). Islamists are transnational and very active, while Sikhs are neither. Sikhs, whether you like them or not, are not trying to take down the world. It is important not to bog things down with local groups such as ETA or the Tamil Tigers, which Islamists are more than happy to do. Despite the importance of such conflicts to those parties involved, there is no broader dimension to them. ETA is not going to infiltrate Norway, nor are the Tamil Tigers attempting to take down Japan. The same cannot be said for Islam.
Look folks, I'm FOR PERSONAL FREEDOM. This is why I don't like Islam - it's the system most opposed to personal freedom that mankind has ever devised. That includes the freedom whether or not to be a parent ... and unfortunately, sometimes condoms and even the pill doesn't work. I've even heard of some tubal ligations failing; which is why I made the decision, that, should mine fail, an abortion and a lawsuit is a _certainty_. And I wouldn't change my mind unless someone offered to have the fetus transplanted into their OWN body, give birth to and raise the result. At their expense (if any).
Dumbledore - I like you, and respect you. Mm, I can see the innocence argument, but aren't we all born into sin? Wouldn't then an embryo who died (whether through abortion or miscarriage) then die pure and get a direct passage into heaven (hopefully fully formed and capable in spirit form)?
Adoption is great, but I've heard too many horror stories of white kids/disabled kids getting passed over, and winding up in foster home after foster home, some of which may abuse them. I honestly want to grab Angelina Jolie by the neck and scream in her face "What's wrong with American kids?! You're an American, aren't you? Adopt a fellow American!" (And forget it, I can neither adopt nor foster in my province, even if I really wanted to, simply because I smoke tobacco. That's an automatic disqualification. Hurray for disqualifying people who might be great parents just because they have a LEGAL habit the morality police disapprove of, Alberta.) Of course, that depends, to me, on whether the woman is willing to undergo the pain, suffering, blood and other repercussions (including possible long-term health problems) of giving birth.
As to the thing about Muslims thinking abortion is OK, I have a sneaking suspicion that it has to do with the _father's_ decision, _not_ the mother's, based on what I know of the status of women in Islam. While I believe it should be discussed between the pair, final say should really be up to the woman, who has to sacrifice her body for the child.
Mrs J - Yes, I will llve the life, where anything goes. I love it. I am free. And what good are praryers? To me, it's like voodoo - only effective if you believe in it. Won't do me a damn bit of good when I'm dead. And I've faced death before, several times. Some from near-fatal accidents. Once from Pakis. Many times from my ex. I think I can handle my own bloody self.
And before you call me on my antipathy to hunting, I will explain THAT as well. An embryo is only a potential. Sure, it might be the next Da Vinci - but it could be the next Hitler too. Why, that kid might even decide, one day, to convert to Islam. You don't know. No one knows. I don't worry about "what might have been" - I've been through too much crap to worry about fairy tales. A wild animal is dependent on no one but itself for life; and it is an actuality, not a potential. It is what it is, what it was, will and will always be until its death. Which is why I also oppose _INFANTICIDE_ and _MURDER_, and to an extent, the death penalty, unless the perp is definitely a scumbag (like bin Laden, Clifford Olsen (the child killer), and the like. And as much as I dislike children in general, I WOULD string Olsen up myself if the opportunity were offered.) And no, I wouldn't cry or feel the least bit bad if my last ex were to drop dead. I resisted the urge to kill him myself (to prevent him carrying out death threats against ME - and YES, he DID stab me, but thankfully only in the upper arm), but should anything happen to him, I'll throw a damn party, coz then I know he'll NEVER do to anyone else what he did to me.
Mrs J, I already stared down, and held my ground against, a Paki terrorist who was threatening to kill me - over a half month's rent, that his father had agreed I could pay two days from that date, when my unemployment started. He even threatened to have "42 Arabs come to fuck" me "up", if I didn't let him in the basement apt I was in. I refused, and we had a VERY heated exchange, in which I got him to admit that his family was indeed here just to SUCK OFF THE INFIDEL.
Oh, and the father of the children I DID have was VERY abusive. The reason I HAD kids to begin with was because HE THREW AWAY MY BIRTH CONTROL PILLS, claiming they were no different from the UR486 pill (the morning-after pill). However, I was deluded by beliefs that it was MY DUTY to make him happy, and to carry those kids to term (they came one after another.) While I don't begrudge my kids their lives now, it DID fuck up MY life, PERMANENTLY. I'm on DISABILITY now, unable to get or hold a real job, because yeah, I AM FUCKING NUTS, and an extremely angry misanthrope. All I have is my crappy-ass cartoons that NO ONE WILL PAY FOR.
And I KNEW it was a mistake to have kids, even at the time, because I didn't like kids even when _I_ was a kid - having been beat up at school EVERY DAY for NINE YEARS (K-8Z) for being a bookworm.
You want to judge me? Go right the FUCK ahead.
And oh, I pissed off the Christians? Well, then, STOP PISSING THE ATHEISTS OFF HERE BY BLAMING THE MUSLIM PROBLEM ON US. Ever think that might not piss ME off, never mind whatever other atheists might come here? Ever think that kind of shit turns atheists OFF of this site? Eh?
Good fucking night to you all.
The poor, dear thing was humiliated?????
You mean like I've been humiliated for being singled out for extra searches while I was traveling in my combat uniform, with duffel bags, military orders and identification card in hand......while young males of apparent Middle-Eastern lineage are waved on through and smirked at me?
Is that the kind of humiliation she was talking about?
Boo-effing-hoo!
"STOP PISSING THE ATHEISTS OFF HERE BY BLAMING THE MUSLIM PROBLEM ON US."
When? Where?
You still haven't provided any comments that support this claim. And given your insane outburst, I am inclined to think that you are making this up.
I agree with Spirit Wolf that there are theistic overtones to this site that a theist wouldn't register. The tendency is to lump Atheists in with Lib-tards and useful idiots advancing the islamic cause in the name of Multiculturalism. If you're really bored feel free to trawl through the last few years and you'll see.
Spirit Wolf, when the moslems come to get us I'll look after you and any other Atheist kufr that wants help. I don't turn the other cheek.
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Three weeks ago Ayman al-Zawahiri's wife Omayma Hassan Ahmed Mohamed Hassan put out a message "To Sisterhood" telling muslim women not to blow themselves up. How long is that going to last??
Adoption is great, but I've heard too many horror stories of white kids/disabled kids getting passed over, and winding up in foster home after foster home, some of which may abuse them.
Strange you should say that "white" kids are basically unadoptable. My niece and her husband have been trying to adopt a white baby for several years and according to them, there are no white babies available for adoption in the U.S. or Canada. There may be older children available but they want a baby and would pay any price to get one. They can't have children of their own and desperately want a family.
There are many, many childless couples who desperately want babies and there are tens of thousands of abortions performed every year. Why would any woman kill her baby if someone else wanted it? Adoptable white babies are a rarity and if the moral implications of abortion are no longer relevant in our society, the stigma connected to selling babies shouldn't be. As far as I'm concerned, it would be far more decent and moral to deliver a baby and sell it to loving parents than to have an abortion.
While I am an agnostic and feel more comfortable around atheists than I do around American evangelical non-denominationals and other flakes like Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses, etc. (as distinct from most normal Christians), nevertheless, there is a reason why there might be detected a tendency to "to lump Atheists in with Lib-tards and useful idiots advancing the islamic cause in the name of Multiculturalism" -- because statistically, it sure seems like most of them are in the libtard PC MC crowd; and I have heard from atheists the Equivalency argument so many times, I have dry-heaved my throat raw. It's a matter of statistics. Sure, one can find some atheists who are anti-Islam; but that is to obfuscate the fact that most atheists in the West are still maching proudly in the pro-Islam Parade -- doubtlessly because their concern about Christian "extremism" is higher.
As with Atheists, the statistics also are relevant with Spirit Wolf's citation of the Sikh terrorist attack: one attacked airplane, compared with the thousands of atrocities committed by Muslims all over the world, is not an equivalency; it in fact exculpates Sikhs! The Sikhs who attacked that plane were the exception which proves the rule -- the rule being, that Sikhs should be very low on our priority of self-defense, just as the IRA and the Basques and Tamil Tigers and the Timothy McVeighs should be very low, when compared with Muslims who outshine everyone else on Earth so astronomically, it is obscene to even raise other groups in the same context.
I agree that there are "theist overtones" on JW, considering the fact that there are quite a few christians here, but so what ...atheists and christians can still be on the same team as we fight a common enemy: Islam.
Having said that, I do not agree that comments are being made here on Jihad Watch blaming atheists for all the world's problems pertaining to muslims; so natually I am curious if you would still agree with SW once you read what she actually stated. The claim is that certain posters are: "blaming atheism for all the world's problems by allowing Muslims in."
Have you read these types of comments?
Hello?
I'm an American too and I'm damned sick of having to explain my 2 ounces of half and half for coffee or being frisked for my underwire bra making the security buzzer go off!!
Anywho, all those hijab wearers have taken to looking like they have grenades in their headgear. They tie up their hair in knotted ponytails or use big combs so that they have these elongated pointy alien heads covered by scarves. If they don't want to be searched, don't wear your friggin hijab for a flat 2 minutes and take it off as you go through the metal detector. I'm sure al-ilah will forgive muslimas for having to placate the infidel dhimmies. What's that? The hijab/burqa is cultural? Not religious? lmao...
And BTW~if they manage to win ONE lawsuit with jizya paid out for the hijab-wearing-strip-searched-and-thus-shamed-and-insulted cretins, then I fully intend to wear a hijab to my next scheduled flight and get me some too!! And I'm gonna demand CAIR to defend me as AN AMERICAN!!! And when they say NO, I'm gonna sue their asses too!
Can you tell I'm mad about this?! Next time some musselman or hijab wearer complains in my presence at the airport I'm gonna have it out with them and demand that they SHUT THE EFF UP AND SUFFER LIKE THE REST OF AMERICANS BECAUSE AFTER ALL islame MEANS PEACE!
SussnP - Hey, I would LOVe to be able to sell my remaining viable eggs to someone who is wiling to use them - but it's illegal in Canada to sell biological material! Want to make me an offer? I'd be more than happy to sell my eggs to a willing party, but Canadian law won't allow me to! I'm willing to go through a US entity, but I can't afford their costs --- unless they're willing to pay me something, no matter how minimal.
Mu first pregnancy was actually a miscarriage. It was in the days before stem cell research. No one asked me if I wanted to donate the embryo to research, but my answer would have been YES! Should my LTL fail, I would make sure to donate the fetus to stem cell procedures. Even just saving Michael J Fox from Parkinson's would make it worth it for me! Or even saving one kid from being born a Down's Syndrome retard or something.
Well, Why must it be a BABY> That's excactly my compaint! Why should it be a fuckig BABY?! Why would anyone want anything that's not toilet trained anyway? Would they adopt a dog that's not housetrained, or a cat not litter trained?
Lorfalcon- I haven't cut my hair in 14 years, and I refuse to let scissors near it. When someone says they are going for a hair cut, I say, what for? My own SO missed a haircut appt (that I made on HIS request) to hell with short hair. I associate it with Nazism anyway! Why do people wanna go around looking like Nazi skinheads anyway?\
Cripes, I haven't had a haircut in 14-15 years. The last person who cut my hair made me look like KD lang. I admire
her balls, but such a look could get me KILLED here. And anyone who would denigrate that, does not understand how important the BEEF industry is to Alberta,
Oh, and I guess none of you actually bothered to visit my site http://www3.telus.net/public/isengrim Tobit is designed to make fun of ANY religious ridiculousness. BUT in my current project - HE IS A DUPE, who eventually sees the error of his ways. HE INITIALLY sides with the Muslim monkeys coz of their "moral" stance, but becomes persecuted himself. Because he teachers that the Great Unicorn is Pink instead of Blue (YHWH vs Allah).
And Champ - jeez, just peruse the comments. There are any number of them that blame "atheistic" "godless" society "lacking in spiritualtiy" people for the problems relating to Islamic immigration. Lemme see ..
Huh? I'm not sure what you mean by your "hair-cutting" statement. I was only talking about the fact that the muslimas use their hair/accoutrements to make their heads look like pointy aliens when they are covered by a hijab and thus look like they have grenades under those cursed scarves. I myself have long beautiful shiny chestnut hair, which I wear free and hijab-less. So...
That said, you should know that the lesbians in Venice Italy are shaving their sexy heads bald and wearing tribal tattos and nipple rings. But no hijabs. lol...
Good night Spirit Wolf, and sweet long-haired dreams.
"And Champ - jeez, just peruse the comments. There are any number of them that blame "atheistic" "godless" society "lacking in spiritualtiy" people for the problems relating to Islamic immigration. Lemme see .."
I have! ...but in all honesty I have not read any, which is why I asked you to please provide just one egrecious comment.
Please don't give me this project -- instead, how about we work TOGEHTER on it. Would you please make a note by keeping track of the thread, and even the commentor, too, and then bring the comment to my attention the next time I'm on?
Are you willing to help me out and do that?
"Why should it be a fuckig BABY?!"
I really don't like you ...and it has nothing at all to do with your being an atheist. Oh, and can you say, victim? Grow up, already.
My 68 year old mother, a devout Catholic, has this happen to EVERY time she flies. These moo-slims can go rot in hell.
Spirit Wolf has hijacked this thread in order to tell us what is what and demands in her own way that we hear her roar and accept what is unacceptable to so many of us here. She claims to revel in her lifestyle of "personal freedom" but it's not true. The pain and abject misery in her posts is really heartbreaking. I was going to bust her chops but I can't. She is among the walking wounded and therefore I can have nothing but great empathy for her. But her conclusions are wrong and they need to be refuted.
Looking back, just exactly when did the right to fuck override the right to live? When did we all buy into a woman's right to live like a man and then have no obligation to deal with the consequences? The idea that women can fuck with abandon and that no one is hurt by it is absurd. Even Spirit Wolf admits that birth control sometimes fails and so there must be abortion available for those times when it does. So in order to ensure that no one interferes with a person's ability to fuck, we must have a way to destroy the unintended and yet very real consequences of that fucking. It's like insisting on the right to run across the freeway and then being shocked, SHOCKED, when one is hit by a car.
Whatever happened to self control? Whatever happened to weighing the risks of a situation and then making an educated decision and yes, sometimes saying no, I will not engage in this behavior because it is risky and might hurt myself and/or others? When did we as a nation become so morbidly selfish and self serving?
And why is it that people who want the rest of us to believe that they really, really believe this way insist that Christianity is the cause of all the misery in the world? What bullshit. Christians might wonder why a person is engaging in the activities that Spirit Wolf brags about but I know very few who will ever mention it because it might hurt that person's feelings. No Christian will cut your head off for having sex outside of marriage. Most Christians won't even give you a disapproving look but even if they did, so what? Is it the Christian look that so demoralizes such a happening chick or is it that chick's guilty conscience? And why do Christians have to stop being Christians just because someone else can't deal with their own behavior?
If atheists want to peacefully co-exist that's fine by me. But I oftentimes find that they don't, because their actions speak louder than words. I have great respect for Wellington because he respects my beliefs and doesn't slam them and then brag about what he does that's the exact opposite of them. He's not a "believer" but he is a true gentleman and I always enjoy working in the trenches with him. Many people here could learn from his example.
When it comes to sex and the law, so many people know that while abortion may be legal it is evil and as a society we have an obligation to stamp out the evil in our midst which is supposedly why so many people gather here to try and do something about Islam. Murdering people, any people, whether it be for the sake of convenience or religion or honor is just plain wrong and we are experiencing a deluge of this crap precisely because we have not stood up and called it by it's rightful name. The Muslim hoards are laughing their asses off at us right now because while they continue to try our patience and test our security measures, we're busy demanding our rights to get laid whenever, wherever and with whomever we please, consequences be damned. But there is a law in the universe that says what goes around comes around, for good or for evil and it is ironic but not really surprising that what's coming at us is a system of oppression that says a woman has no control whatsoever over her body, that a man may force her into "marriage", impregnate her to her heart's content, take as many children as he likes from her body and toss her to the side of the road without those children or beat or kill her if he likes because Allah said so. If it wasn't so deadly serious it would be laughable. The other ironic thing is that as we have sought to reduce or eliminate the number of children we have for our own convenience we have unknowingly planted the seeds of our own demise and possible enslavement. Muslims know this and use this knowledge strategically as we merrily skip towards the cliff with the thousand foot drop. Oh yes, we are the clever ones.
To Spirit Wolf, I'm sorry for calling you a dumbshit. I didn't know that you were going through such tough times.
Well said, Isabella.
I hope you have a good year, Spiritwolf, it seems you have had enough hard times.
I disagree with you on one thing: those cartoons of yours - they are certainly not crappy. I took a look and was knocked out at how professional and well drawn they are. Seriously.
Only if you'll take a few neighborhoods in Toronto and Vancouver in return.