Indiana: Muslim spokesman hoodwinks Infidels with smooth lies about Islam

Here we go again: smooth deceptions retailed to the ignorant, unsuspecting and well-intentioned. "Many here misunderstand Islam's teaching on violence, women, member says," by Karen Owen-Phelps for the Evansville Courier & Press, January 22:

It's easy to tar an entire group because of the actions of a few -- but it also is unfair and inaccurate, says Dr. Muhammad Hussain, a local Muslim.

Many Americans still don't have much real information about Islam, Hussain said.

"It's hard sometimes for people to sort out and separate the acts of a few people from a whole group of people."

As examples:

A Jew walked into a gay bar in Israel in August and killed two people and wounded several others.

"You can't assume that all Jews are like that and hate gay people and will kill them," Hussain said.

Gosh, no, Hussein! But may I ask you a few questions? Do any Jewish organizations around the world tell their adherents today to kill homosexuals? Can you point to any unanimity of doctrine among the various forms of Judaism to the effect that gay people ought to be killed?

Can you, in contrast, find any unanimity among the sects and schools of Islam about the necessity for Muslims to wage war against and subjugate Infidels? Why, yes, yes you can. Can you find texts and teachings from mainstream Islamic authorities that mandate such warfare? Why, yes, yes you can!

Basque terrorists in Spain were blamed for a series of bombings in Spanish territories in 2009.

"That doesn't mean everyone in that part of Spain is a terrorist," he said. "Terrorism is not new to Islam, just like it is not new to any other religion."

Terrorism is as old as warfare, but that really sidesteps the question of the existence of the jihad doctrine and Islamic supremacism, doesn't it?

People of all religions misquote, misuse and take scripture out of context, Hussain said. In Pakistan or Spain, "the problem is these people may not even represent a fraction of 1 percent of the Muslims or the Basques."

So we are to believe that the Islamic jihadists "misquote, misuse and take scripture out of context." All right. But then why is it that an internationally renowned scholar of Islam like Majid Khadduri, an Iraqi scholar of Islamic law of international renown, likewise misunderstands Islam? In his book War and Peace in the Law of Islam, which was published in 1955 and remains one of the most lucid and illuminating works on the subject, Khadduri says this about jihad:

The state which is regarded as the instrument for universalizing a certain religion must perforce be an ever expanding state. The Islamic state, whose principal function was to put God's law into practice, sought to establish Islam as the dominant reigning ideology over the entire world....The jihad was therefore employed as an instrument for both the universalization of religion and the establishment of an imperial world state. (P. 51)

Khadduri isn't alone, either. Another strange case of a professor of Islam misunderstanding the religion he teaches is Imran Ahsan Khan Nyazee, Assistant Professor on the Faculty of Shari'ah and Law of the International Islamic University in Islamabad. In his 1994 book The Methodology of Ijtihad, he quotes the twelfth century Maliki jurist Ibn Rushd: "Muslim jurists agreed that the purpose of fighting with the People of the Book...is one of two things: it is either their conversion to Islam or the payment of jizyah." Nyazee concludes: "This leaves no doubt that the primary goal of the Muslim community, in the eyes of its jurists, is to spread the word of Allah through jihad, and the option of poll-tax [jizya] is to be exercised only after subjugation" of non-Muslims.

Misunderstanding Islam also is a Shafi'i manual of Islamic law endorsed by the most prestigious institution in Sunni Islam, Al-Azhar University in Cairo? It says that the leader of the Muslims "makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians...until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax," and cites Koran 9:29 in support of this idea: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled." ('Umdat al-Salik o9.8)

And the violence is often against other Muslims -- those that certain groups don't consider true Muslims -- not outsiders, Hussain said.

Uh huh. And so? Isn't a Muslim's life worth just as much as an Infidel's? Shouldn't Hussain be just as concerned if the Islamic jihadists kill Muslims than if they kill non-Muslims?

Islam "doesn't really condone any acts of terrorism," he said. "The sanctity of life is very important" in his religion, Hussain asserted.

"If you take one life, it is like killing the whole community. If you save one life, it's like saving the whole of humanity."

That would be an extrapolation from Qur'an 5:32: "On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land."

Note the caveats. And what happens to someone who is "spreading mischief in the land"? Read on to Qur'an 5:33: "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter."

"The sanctity of life is very important" -- unless you're spreading "mischief through the land" -- a term that covers a multitude of Sharia offenses.

Christians in the past burned people at the stake, he said.

"There were waves and waves of immigrants who came to this country because they were being persecuted for the Christian faith by other Christians."

Uh huh. And so? Even if Christianity were the most evil thing on earth, what would that tell us about the Islamic jihad that is being waged around the world today?

Americans also have misconceptions about Islam's treatment of women, Hussain said. Oppression, female circumcision and families who murder or mutilate female relatives they believe have dishonored them are all cultural trappings, Hussain said. These customs are not part of Islam.

Muslim couples sign a marriage contract, similar to a prenuptial agreement, when they marry, Hussain said. The bride can choose to have conditions added to the contract.

"Islam says the woman has no obligation to work, cook, clean. She doesn't have to provide for the family," Hussain said. "He (the husband) has to."

Hussain adds he doesn't know of any culture in the world where women don't face censure if they fail to cook, clean or care for their children.

Islam itself, though, "says the woman is independent. She can do that if she pleases, but she doesn't have to do that."

But if she doesn't? "Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them." -- Qur'an 4:34

Women are dominated by men in many non-Muslim countries as well, Hussain points out.

"Women here (in the United States) still continue to fight for their rights.

"So whatever happens in the Muslim world is no different than what happened in the rest of the world," Hussain said. "Societies are paternalistic."

No other culture gives divine sanction to wife-beating. An honest Islamic spokesman would acknowledge that and offer some ways that Muslim women could be protected.

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Another example of using moral equivalents.

Islam says the woman is independant? Oh so I guess women just choose to be honor killed. Must be a pious muslim.

It's the old - we can't really defend the 270 million people we butchered during that endless jihad of ours - but you know, some Jew walked into this gay bar and.............

Yep, it's the old taquiyya. Of course, the cure is reading the Qur'an.

First, you need to know what Jihad is:

Jihad (pronounced /dʒɪˈhɑːd/; Arabic: جهاد‎ [dʒiˈhæːd]), an Islamic term, is a religious duty of Muslims. In Arabic, the word jihād is a noun meaning "struggle." Jihad appears frequently in the Qur'an and common usage as the idiomatic expression "striving in the way of Allah (al-jihad fi sabil Allah)".[1][2] A person engaged in jihad is called a mujahid, the plural is mujahideen.

A minority among the Sunni scholars sometimes refer to this duty as the sixth pillar of Islam, though it occupies no such official status.[3] In Twelver Shi'a Islam, however, Jihad is one of the 10 Practices of the Religion.

According to scholar John Esposito, Jihad requires Muslims to "struggle in the way of God" or "to struggle to improve one's self and/or society."[3][4] Jihad is directed against Satan's inducements, aspects of one's own self, or against a visible enemy.[1][5] The four major categories of jihad that are recognized are Jihad against one's self (Jihad al-Nafs), Jihad of the tongue (Jihad al-lisan), Jihad of the hand (Jihad al-yad), and Jihad of the sword (Jihad as-sayf).[5] Islamic military jurisprudence focuses on regulating the conditions and practice of Jihad as-sayf, the only form of warfare permissible under Islamic law, and thus the term Jihad is usually used in fiqh manuals in reference to military combat.[5][6]


NOW, read what Jihad (of the sword) is :
The Qur’an asserts that if the use of force would not have been allowed in curbing the evils by nations, the disruption and disorder caused by insurgent nations could have reached the extent that the places of worship would have become deserted and forsaken. As it states:

"And had it not been that Allah checks one set of people with another, the monasteries and churches, the synagogues and the mosques, in which His praise is abundantly celebrated would have been utterly destroyed." - Qur'an
(Taken from: wikipedia)


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Islamic Community

"If you take one life, it is like killing the whole community. If you save one life, it's like saving the whole of humanity."
As I was reading this article and reached the above comment,
I loudly proclaimed,"Aagh!Not that old cliched crap again!"
The "acts of a few people."The wild eyed mobs are a few!

Can't agree more bro :)

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Our Islamic Community

WHO SAID ISLAM IS VIOLENT?PLEASE MORE RESPECT FOR THE RELIGION OF PEACE AND READ THE HOLY KURAN: "And slay them (the infidels) wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out, for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter". 2:191
"And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppressions, and there prevail justice and Faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression". 2:193
"Fighting is prescribed for you, and you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and that you love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not". 2:216
"Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him
who fighteth in the cause of Allah, whether he is slain or gets victory soon shall we give him
a reward of great (value)". 4:74
"Seize them and slay them wherever you find them: and in any case take no friends or
helpers from their ranks". 4:89
"Allah has granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit at home". 4:95

"Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly". 8:60

"O Prophet! Rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred; if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding". 8:65

"Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you to victory over them, and heal the breasts of the Believers". 9:14

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which
hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of truth, from
among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission and feel
themselves subdues". 9:29

"Say: can you expect for us (and fate) other than one of two glorious things (martyrdom or victory)? But we can expect for you either that Allah will send his punishment (for not believing in Allah) from Himself, or by our hands. So wait (expectant); we too will wait with you". 9:52

This verse orders Muslims to fight in order to establish Allah's kingdom
on earth (world domination) by any means:

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war): but if they repent, and establish regular Prayers and practise regular Charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". 9:5

In other words, the only way for the pagans (or infidels) to be spared from being slain is to become Muslims.

The fine art of taquiyya and biased marketing. Leaving out pertinent facts while focusing on the more sell-able, acceptable and fabricated "nicer" aspects of Islam, balancing it carefully on the moral equivalency scale.

Until, of course the audience decides to examine the facts and the entire sand castle of hogwash begins to crumble and fall apart.

Buyer be aware alert.

"It's easy to tar an entire group because of the actions of a few -- but it also is unfair and inaccurate, says Dr. Muhammad Hussain, a local Muslim."

Oh, indeed. Explain that to the MSM media that went after the Catholic Church hammer and tong for the actions of a few homosexual priests.

"Many Americans still don't have much real information about Islam, Hussain said."

Indeed, again. That's because the MSM, the universities, and our "leadership" have worked so hard to hide the real information about Islam from us. Only on the Internet and some talk radio programs is there real info about Islam.

"It's hard sometimes for people to sort out and separate the acts of a few people from a whole group of people." [Dr. Hussain, again]

Indeed, a third time. It's especially hard when a majority of the "whole group" support and approve the actions of "a few". In the case of Islam, probably most Moslems are themselves unwilling to become bombers or multiple murderers; but there sure are an awful lot of them who turn out to celebrate successful massacres of infidels, and to defend the actions of the killers.

Since when can we judge islam as a whole because of the actions of a select few? A suicide bomber goes off each day. Sometimes more then one goes off per day. Atrocities are commited in the name of islam on the daily basis. So we HAVE to ask these taqiyya bold faced liars and even ourselves. Are the actions of these people the product of a minority in islam? or an equal half? or perhaps even a majority? If its really such a "small" minority why is it treated so lightly? surely this "minority" MUST rank within the hundreds of thousands perhaps millions to be negligible.

Since when can we judge islam as a whole because of the actions of a select few? A suicide bomber goes off each day. Sometimes more then one goes off per day. Atrocities are commited in the name of islam on the daily basis. So we HAVE to ask these taqiyya bold faced liars and even ourselves. Are the actions of these people the product of a minority in islam? or an equal half? or perhaps even a majority? If its really such a "small" minority why is it treated so lightly? surely this "minority" MUST rank within the hundreds of thousands perhaps millions to be negligible.

loup garou, do you wash your feet alot, a big fan of lentil soup? down with jew hatred..?
You need to ditch the koran, and all that crap. (it's not very nice)


Humza, go to your room.

Yes, of course, we all know that 12-year-old illiterate brides, in Pakistan, for example, are fully cognizant of their rights to have whatever conditions they want added to their Islamic marriage contracts; fully aware of what their life will be like after marriage, baby after baby, endless toil; fully aware of how they have been indoctrinated since birth to be submissive to males, to deny their own needs and wants; fully aware of what they are giving up in the way of education, career, and personal fulfillment.

Dr. Hussain would agree with that, wouldn't he?

Yes, a Muslim marriage contract -- just the ticket for these child brides.

Logical arguments and evidence have absolutely no influence on a mind inculcated with Islam. I am convinced we can't solve the problem of Islam by confronting Muslims with the truth. But we must make our leaders understand that Muslims believe that Mohamed was a murderer, rapist, looter, liar, and pedophile AND yet still regard him as the perfect man.

When I read this story in the Evansville Courier and Press, I sent them the following letter-to-the-editor:


The headline: "Many here misunderstand Islam's teaching on violence, women, member says," attracted my attention. I have been studying Islam and its history intensively since 9-11-01. My study has included reading the Qur'an, many of the Hadiths, various histories, and some ten biographies of Muhammad's life. Currently, I am researching the relationship between Muhammad and the Jews in Medina and have gained a pretty good understanding of Muhammad and how he dealt with non-Muslims.
Dr. Hussain says it is unfair and inaccurate to criticize a religion because of the actions of a few people. He also says, "Many Americans still don't have much real information about Islam." I agree with Dr. Hussain; non-Muslims need to understand how Islam developed into a power on the world stage.
Dr. Hussain also says "these people" [Islamic Jihadists] may not even represent a fraction of one percent of the Muslims...." Giving Dr. Hussain this point and using a round figure of 1 billion Muslims in the world today, that comes out to 100,000 of "these people" involved in Jihad. Considering that the jihadists use terror as a tactic, they have been able to successfully create fear throughout both the Muslim and non-Muslim world with such "small" numbers.
An important question is this: what makes Islamic Jihadists think that they are doing the right thing in using terror as a tactic to achieve their goal? One must seriously study the Qur'an [the words of Allah], the Hadiths [the traditions of Muhammad], the biographies of Muhammad's life, and the history of Islam to answer this question satisfactorily. Such study will make it clear that Allah commanded Muhammad to fight against non-believers.
One example from the Qur'an will make the point of Allah's support. In the decisive battle of Badr in 624 A.D., Allah inspired His angels to support the Muslims against the polytheists with these words: "I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then [to the angels] smite the necks and smite of them each finger. That is because they opposed Allah and His Messenger, lo! Allah is severe in punishment"(2-13). In plain English, Allah told His angels to cut off the necks and fingers of the Meccan polytheists. Why? Because they "opposeth Allah and His messenger." Also, Allah said He "would throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve." This verse shows that both Allah and Muhammad used "fear" for those who followed the ones killed on the field of battle.
Today's jihadists use Qur'anic commands like this and Muhammad's example in their war with unbelievers--those who oppose Allah and His messenger. They also use terror to strike fear in those who survive.
Dr. Hussain also noted that "People of all religions misquote, misuse and take scripture out of context." He then says the Qur'an teaches, "If you take one life, it is like killing the whole community. If you save one life, it's like saving the whole of humanity" (5:32). But Hussain does not place this quote in context. The next verse continues: "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land" (5:33). There's some context for you, Dr. Hussain.
We need to understand the roots of Islam. Please study its history and find out for yourself what motivates jihadists throughout the world.

Sincerely,


David Hayden


I have my doubts that the Evansville Courier and Press will print this as a letter-to-the-editor.



Here's a correction for my earlier post. The Qur'anic verse quoted should be (8:12-13), not (2-13). I was typing too fast.

I will repeat this until the world finally uses the correct word for the islamic cult

The Islamic religion is nothing more then Arab imperialism!

-You must read the quran in Arabic

-You must pray in Arabic

-You must get a Arabic name (isn't it more obvious ?)

-You must believe some Arab from 1400 years ago was the most perfect uber human

-You buy things that are Arabic in design

And i bet everything else is in Arabic too.

islam only benefits the Arabs in Saudi Arabia, the pilgrimage to Mecca was before the oil age one of the biggest incomes for the Arabs in Saudi Arabia, i see islam as one big marketing stunt by the Arabs, do the Indonesians get any benefits at all for being muslim ? no, the Arabs do, every muslim must come to Mecca once, this is a billion income for them, its like disneyland but with higher prices, and you must throw stones and kill animals instead of riding some fun ride.


’’The Meccan economy has been heavily dependent on the annual pilgrimage. As one scholar put it, "[Meccans] have no means of earning a living but by serving the hajjis." Economy generated from hajj, in fact, not only powers the Meccan economy but has historically had far reaching effects on the economy of the Hejaz and Nejd regions. The income was generated in a number of ways. One method was taxing the pilgrims. Taxes especially increased during the Great Depression, and many of these taxes existed as late as 1972. With rise of oil income, however, all unnecessary charges have been abolished. Another way the Hajj generates income is through services to pilgrims. For example, the Saudi national airline, Saudi Arabian Airlines, generates 12% of its income from the pilgrimage. Fares paid by pilgrims to reach Mecca by land also generate income; as do the hotels and lodging companies that house them.’’


If a none-Arab becomes a muslim, doesn't matter if he/she is a Chinese, European, Eskimo, he just becomes a slave of the Saudi Arab money system.

We call white people (or any none-white too ?) who thinks and or wants to be a black African wiggers, can we call people who think and or wants to be Arabs Warabs ?


Want more proof ?
Islam is for Arabs only, the rest are just money slaves, read this:

-Arabs are the chosen people of Allah; Allah resembles an Arab.–ibn Sa’d, vol.1, p.2.

-Allah favours Arab racism: prophet is to be of Quraysh stock and of white complexion (ibn Sa’d, vol.1, p.95-96, Sahih Muslim, 20.4483.

Quraysh was the tribe mohammed was from.


Islam: The Arab Imperialism by Anwar Sheikh

The life of the Prophet Muhammad is a fascinating model of this truth. He welded the fragmented Arab tribes into a unified nation and inspired them with a great political ideal, leading to the establishment of a mighty Arab Empire, which the misguided Muslims of the Indian subcontinent think of as the Islamic Empire, despite the fact that the status of the non-Arab Muslims in it was no better than that of Indians in the British Empire. The Prophet Muhammad was essentially a nationalist. To make the Arabs a pure nation, he even (successfully) carried out ethnic cleansing by massacring and banishing the Jews from Arabia.

In fact, Islam is the most effective tool of imperialism; other nations, usually acquire political and cultural glory through economic power or sword and fire but Islam achieves this aim through the medium of faith-in- Muhammad, the only source of paradise, replete with beautiful virgins, pretty boys and rivers of wine, milk and honey. This lure of paradise has turned all non-Arab Muslims into moths, eager to cremate themselves on the flame of the Arabian cultural hegemony.

This majestic, marvellous and mighty Arabian instrument is called "Islam." In theory, it means "surrender to Allah" but in practice, it is a force of self-subjugation to the soil of Arabia and its cultural institutions!

The net result of this faith is that every non-Arab Muslim has been turned into a moth, restless to cremate itself on the flame of Arab Imperialism.

http://www.islam-watch.org/AnwarSheikh/Islam-Arab-Imperialism1.htm


The Islamic political cult is nothing more then Arab imperialism, read more about it and spread the word for the world.

Robert,

This must be the definitive post on the "misunderstander" subject! I sometimes refer to jihadists as misunderstanders, and the word is so arresting, that it even gives pause to craven islamophiles (AKA my coworkers) and then facilitates a conversation about "texts and teachings". In fact, this wonderful word is even more effective than the moniker "Tiny Minority of Extremists" to get your point across.

This makes me think of your explanation of the Saudi national flag (not sure which book) wherein you mention that meaning of the Arabic script ("There is no god but allah, and mohammed is his messenger" blah blah blah) then call attention to the sword below it, noting that it's there "as if to emphasize the point".

Keep up the great work ... you need to get on more TV and Radio shows, it's been awhile!

OK, Humza, when it comes to defining and using the term "jihad", clearly you don't care for Majid Khadduri, much less Sahih al-Bukhari or Ibn Khaldun.

I'll see your Esposito and Wikipedia, and raise you a Paul Stenhouse:

The primary meaning of Jihad

Jahada, the root of the word Jihad, appears 40 times in the Quran - under a variety of grammatical forms. With the exception of Sura 6, 16, 24 and 35, all the other usages are variations of the 3rd Form of the verb, i.e. Jahida which in the Quran and in subsequent Islamic understanding meant and means 'he fought, warred or waged war against unbelievers and the like'.

Because, in the 1st Form, the verb Jahada may mean simply 'he exerted himself, he strove' one finds that euphemisms abound in almost all editions of the Quran intended for non-Muslims when translating the meaning of the 3rd form.

Apologists claim that Jihad in the Quran primarily refers to 'spiritual asceticism' and not militarism. Readers unfamiliar with Arabic are offered 'strive' or 'struggle' or some other neutral word, as a translation of the verb used in the 3rd Form i.e. Jahida ...

His bull crap would have been believed by a lot of people just after 9/11 but it doesn't pass the smell test for most Americans now.

Many Americans are learning about Islam not from the MSM but from Mr. Spencer's books along with the other fine ex Muslims, like Aayan Hirsi Ali, Noni Darwish, etc.


Islam is what Islam does.

We see daily not only here in the USA, but all over the world how intolerant and violent Islam is in practice, especially in Muslim dominated countries.

Besides it is easy enough to check the Qu'ran online and see for ourselves if the Jihadists are misquoting, the Little Book of Hate.

"If you take one life, it is like killing the whole mankind. If you save one life, it's like saving the whole of mankind."

The verse above doesn`t really apply to non-muslims. You can find this out yourself if you read the WHOLE verse.

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