Islamic suicide bomber who killed six CIA officers was trusted CIA informant

Can anyone tell me why we had an Afghan national as security director for an American base (not to mention a base housing a sizable CIA contingent)?

They say you should keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

In this case, the enemy got too close and with drastic consequences. You need to be careful in this business especially when it comes to Islamic informants. If they've got good intel then good but I wouldn't let them get too close anyway because they're probably just befriending you in a major campaign of taqiyya in order to earn your trust and plot something against you.

Reagan's little geo-political black humor slogan "TRUST, BUT VERIFY" (in effect: DON'T TRUST!) needs to be relearned by these naive buffoons.

And maybe read the damned Koran after 8 plus years beyond 9/11, for a frikkin CHANGE.

It's very hard to sympathize with supposedly-professional intelligence people who are so stupendously and suicidally naive abpout the tenets of intolerant, expansionistic, terroristic, Imperialistic Islam.

Sura 9:5 would be a good palate cleanser for their delusional, Candyland stupidity.

So our 'intelligence' agencies allow a muslim to come in without frisking?

They need special seminars on Islam from Robert/Hugh, right now.

Possible scenario: Pakistani Wazir had been summoned for interrogation, as he had been discovered by CIA as a double agent feeding wrong information, which had resulted in many wasteful wild goose chases and botched ops, as the Taliban evidently knew about them in advance.

Someone(Arghavan?)had tipped off the Taliban, who realised that the usefulness of Wazir as a stool pigeon was now over, so they decided to use the event as an opportunity to deal CIA a telling blow - wonder if CIA will get the cruel pun? Probably not, because they haven't understood this war yet. They do not REALLY know what they are fighting against or even what they are fighting for. And as old Sun Tzu said 2500 years ago “Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories.”

The policy decisions are made at the top, and if the top decides that some muslims are trustworthy, then the base workers have to comply. Guess who is at the top? why Obama and his cronies of course. Though i would also point out that Bushy proberly started this.

The policy decisions are made at the top, and if the top decides that some muslims are trustworthy, then the base workers have to comply. Guess who is at the top? why Obama and his cronies of course. Though i would also point out that Bushy proberly started this.

"As I have pointed out many, many times, there is no reliable way to distinguish a peaceful Muslim from a potentially violent jihadist."

Logically, this means that we must conclude that, for the practical purposes of our safety, all Muslims are equally dangerous -- and we must act on that logical conclusion.

Any counter-arguments?

"CIA-agents"- don't make me laugh..!

I feel sorry for these guys who end up chasing "hearts & minds" amongst Mohammedans and end up getting killed in the process.

I don't know how they choose and train these CIA guys, but those I've met in Australia, Thailand, Germany, in Vietnam and Laos were totally clueless buffoons and braggarts who somehow made it through school and got a job with the most overrated and overpaid spy-outfit in the world.

Sorry to tell you, America: your "CIA" was always wrong on everything. Your naiveté' is a smorgasbord for your enemies. The soldiers of allah will devour you like a 9 year old virgin.

Don't send your kids to Mohammedan countries to get killed. Don't send anyone who is clueless about Islamic doctrine. Without a basic understanding this whole war effort will not amount to more than a wild goose chase.

And don't vote for a mohammedan POSPOTUS!

It is sad to see how American taxpayers' billions of dollars in "aid", facilitated by Biden, Kerry and clueless Obama, are continually being MISUSED in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan by their so called "rogue" agents to kill CIA operatives who are fighting terrorists. Instead of helping their bread and butter provider in Washington, as they agreed in treaty previously, the Pakistanis are sourcing Jihad to further their real cause and reason through expedience costing American blood.
This falls into the "bleed your enemy with a thousands cuts" category.

Pres. Obama recently agreed to increase the jizya payments to Yemen, not just Pakistan. You see, the Yemenis are motivated by poverty and despair, as are all suicide bombers. Disregard the fact that the most recent jihadis trained in Yemen were from very wealthy families.

Hesperado being particularily desperate say "all Muslims are equally dangerous ".....what a laughable and dangerous statement that is....he should be banned for making up lies like that.

Hypothyeticaly, If all muslims were (your version of) equally dangerous...the world would be ruled by the Taliban version of Islam already.

The truth is that a tiny portion of muslims are dangerous because they would implement what they think...MOST muslims simply work to keep a roof over their head and look after the family.

Remember that Hesperado....next time your child is ill, or your partner is haviing a child and needs delivery...you may well require muslim help....so shut up with your broad brush crap.

yom al yuma,

instead of attacking Hesperado over his statement why don't you offer up some evidence that it is only "a tiny minority of extremists" that we have to worry about?

As for the banning of commenters here, perhaps you need reminding that this is not a mohammedan da'awa site.

And no, I'm sure Hesperado would not seek help from a mohammedan doctor. Neither would I or anyone else in my family.

Thanks but no thanks.

Yom_Al_Juna...How "Islamic" of you! The prophet himself would be pleased. Peer not through keyholes Yommie, lest ye be VEXED!

Is there anyone yet unconvinced that we're at war with world Islam? Is there anyone yet unconvinced that in this war, the only possible outcomes are victory and death?

As I have pointed out many, many times, there is no reliable way to distinguish a peaceful Muslim from a potentially violent jihadist. ... every mainstream Islamic sect and school of Islamic law teaches the necessity to subjugate unbelievers, by force if necessary, under the hegemony of Islamic law."

This message should be part of every screen saver in every CIA, FBI, Homeland Security and immigration office in the Western World.

Possibly every Muslim, because of what the extremely intolerant & violent Koran & hadiths actually say, is susceptible to Sudden Jihad Syndrome. Muslims on their own or by encouragement, as probably in this CIA- attack case and certainly in the Nidal Hasan case, can come to feel guilty about their associations with the despisable infidels and so to achieve redemption and reward become suicide killers. The risks associated with trusting muslims is therefore high and certainly extremely high in war arenas.

"...so shut up with your broad brush crap."

What race is "kufr" again, Yomseem?

Historically their has been some amount of a willful portryal of incompetence on behalf the CIA in hopes that enemies would not take them serious and thus make them more effective. Unfortunately after the Cold War ended most of those operatives have either passed or retired. Jimmy Carter dismantled our intelligence unit in Lebanon at a time when several current and future terrorists were on a special list for termination. This weakened our intelligence and that of the Musad. It was Carter not Reagan who first sent money to Afganistan ($500 Mil in 1979) and that was seed money for the roots of the Taliban. Then the Ragan administration's slack security and attitude led to the Marine Baracks bombing. Fast forward to such idiots as Clinton, Bush and Obama and no further explanation is needed. CIA gets a C- at best.

MSNBC is reporting that a Jordanian doctor acting as a double-agent killed the CIA officers.

Apparently CIA Agents have ZERO training in Islam and Islamofascism. Hey, guys..WAKE THE FUCK UP! Read the Koran, Hadith, Sira. Muslims have NO kafir friends!

To allow this "informer" or "asset" to get close to multiple CIA Officers is the epitomy of negligence and lack of professionalism. Perhaps someone should have INFORMED the CIA that they are not to TRUST the words or actions of a Muslim "gofer".

Only a Tribal Leader can guarantee the loyalty of one of his tribe. NEVER trust a low level Muslim informant.

Apparently CIA Agents have ZERO training in Islam and Islamofascism. Hey, guys..WAKE THE FUCK UP! Read the Koran, Hadith, Sira. Muslims have NO kafir friends!

To allow this "informer" or "asset" to get close to multiple CIA Officers is the epitomy of negligence and lack of professionalism. Perhaps someone should have INFORMED the CIA that they are not the TRUST the words or actions of a Muslim "gofer".

Only a Tribal Leader can guarantee the loyalty of one of his tribe. NEVER trust a low level Muslim informant.

Spies and double-agents are as old as warfare. What is distinctly Islamic here is the orgasmic lust for martyrdom.