After all, why not? There was no need for him to cut short his vacation. He already knew that the attacker was a lone extremist and that the attack had nothing whatsoever to do with Islam or with a global jihad, which doesn't exist anyway, so why not keep skiing?
"NCTC director Michael Leiter remained on ski slopes after Christmas Day airline bombing attempt," by James Gordon Meek for the New York Daily News, January 6 (thanks to Walter):
WASHINGTON - The top official in charge of analyzing terror threats did not cut short his ski vacation after the underwear bomber nearly blew up an airliner on Christmas Day, the Daily News has learned.Michael Leiter, director of the National Counterterrorism Center since 2007, decided not to return to his agency's "bat cave" nerve center in McLean, Va., until several days after Christmas, two U.S. officials said.
"People have been grumbling that he didn't let a little terrorism interrupt his vacation," said one of the sources.
The NCTC, the post-9/11 clearinghouse for intelligence to detect terror plots against the U.S., is under intense scrutiny for failing to "connect the dots" on Nigerian bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.
Leiter's spokesman declined to say when the terror-center chief returned to Washington and fully retook the helm of his analysis agency, which is near CIA headquarters just outside the nation's capital.
"It is our policy to not make our director's schedule available to the public," center spokesman Carl Kropf said in an e-mail.
Leiter has long been well-regarded, and he was not the only official in the homeland security orbit to skip town for vacation during the holidays. President Obama himself stayed in Hawaii until Jan. 4....
This does not surprise me in the least. It goes beyond incompetency. Obamas attitude towards America is repeated over and over in the leftist sacks of crap that he puts in positions of power. They don't care about you and I one little bit. We are mere impediments to the "fundamental transformation of America.".
I noted that Obama dropped his golf club and ran to the side of the injured child of a friend of his. This is because he feels and emotional attachment to his friend and his friends child.
He feels no such emotional bond between himself and the American people. His vacation was more important to him than a show of support to the American people. His friend and friends child...he felt a need to give his support to his friend...to comfort him and give reassurance. You and I don't count in the Obama world.
He is ashamed of us and our behavior over the years and he clearly intends to make sure that our bad behavior will not continue. Beyond that he intends to "take us down a peg or two" as penance our past transgressions. This he calls leveling the playing field. What it really amounts to is lowering America to the level of other countries. No more exceptionalism. He has stated his dislike for that term when it comes to America.
Search Cloward and Piven and then look at what is happening today.
I'll stop my rant here. I had to remove about 3 times the content I left. I get kinda wound up when my President is trying to destroy my country.
islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.
These guys are such oblivious morons. Watching Obama's press conference yesterday, we got another dose of cognitive dissonance. Obama said that we are at war “with Al Qaeda.” He also touted how the vast majority of Muslims support us against Al Qaeda.
Really??!?!
That would be like FDR saying “We are at war with the Luftwaffe, not Germany. The vast majority of Germans support us against the Luftwaffe.”
This website has reported on surveys that say large numbers of Muslims support the ultimate goals of Al Qaeda (sharia, caliphate), though fewer may support its methods. I suggest that most Muslims DO NOT support our military efforts against Al Qaeda. Those that do support our efforts include Muslim rulers who are threatened in some way by Al Qaeda. Besides, Al Qaeda is not the ONLY Muslim group out to attack us, plus there are those who are not attacking us ONLY because they have other priorities at the moment.
Obama also suggested that most Muslims are supportive of us defending our freedoms and values. SOW-SCAT!! They want to destroy our freedoms and values and replace them with their drastically opposed values and non-freedoms.
My point is this: ISLAM is at war with the entire non-Muslim world and has been for fourteen centuries. There are ebbs and flows, ups and downs, and no large portion of Islam is engaged in active jihad at any one time. But they are at war with us whether we acknowledge it or not.
I know how you feel AI. It makes one sick to the stomach.
Islam has had 14 centuries to reform and improve its ways so humanity could benefit from it. Instead, its just wrought destruction, chaos, murder, mayhem, war and death on its followers and those who reject Allah.
Obama takes his time on holiday when there's nearly a successful terrorist attack on the American people, yet as he said in his Cairo speech:
"And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear."
He is an idiot.
But at least it seems he realises what an absolute idiot he is and what a cock up he's made over this whole affair: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/obama-moves-to-strengthen-terrorist-watchlist-boost-airport-screening/story-e6frg6so-1225817238277
I hope the US vote him out at the next election.
Inspires confidence!
Salam,
Why is it so important for Michael to show his face. He will have been fully briefed, no disaster took place and he would have been with you in spirt, by phone, email or video link. Please get into the new comms world.
Michael would have worked very hard ALL year and probably deserved his break...and at any rate the buck stops with Obhama (he said as much) who was there supporting you.
Once Obhama had got on TV, do you really think that Michael following on after him would have given you any further comfort?
I think not.
Alaskan_infidel said "I'll stop my rant here. I had to remove about 3 times the content I left. I get kinda wound up"
Alaskan...IMHO please look after yourself and nurse your delicate heart condition by not getting wound up. Who is going to look after your dogs if your heart "melts"?
You do have it down. One these pages and elsewhere, you might see some boilerplate rhetoric opposition to terrorism in the abstract. However, when such people are asked about how to deal with such terrorism they become vague or parrot the demands of the terrorists themselves. This indicates that much mainstream Moslem opposition to terrorism is really about methods, rather than ends. Also, the opposition one runs into from the Moslem community when one tries to limit certain dangerous practices, such as full veiling or the wearing of a burqa(not even mandatory in Islam)illustrates their true feelings. Any concerns about such practices being used for concealment or identity or even suicide vests, despite numerous examples abroad, is haughtily dismissed as Islamophobia. The life and safety of non-Moslems comes second to the use of optional clothing by Moslems. You can see this in other areas as well in demands for religious accomodations(prayer rooms and special foot baths)that are not accorded to other non-Moslem employees. In fact, additional uncompensated burdens(covering for Moslems during Moslem prayer times, etc) are imposed on non-Moslems to accomodate the believers. This is dhimitude.
It seems to be contageous.
Worry01 says "The life and safety of non-Moslems comes second to the use of optional clothing by Moslems".
Whilst I can sympathise with you....however many muslims do not know that that this clothing is optional. Yours indeed is a very simplistic argument....let me elobrate:
1)External influences such as elders, (e.g. grandads, imams) come into play on how to dress.
2)Internal influences such as a lifetime's training of habits and clothes wear comes into play.
3) A rich history of 1400 years "tells" me that we are right. Kuffar clothes wear has changed so much...even between Victorian times to now, whereas we are a constant.
4) Moral arguments ...such as not showing your face or curves of your body to keep kuffar learing and purvying over women ranks very highly in our thinking.
Overall, I am surprised that you feel unsafe...in reality WE are the ones who feel unsafe from you.....try wearing a burka ...and see how people avoid you, or give you those "knowing" looks. The level of service that one recieves is different too. You really don't know what you are talking about.
I think you feel superior to us; whilst the opposite is true...but you refuse to acknowledge this....I can feel sorry for you; but you know it does not have to be like this; take Allah SWT as your lord and be No. 1.
Yom
I sincerely hope Leiters skiing proficiency matches that of James Bond. If not, he might find himself skiing on the Downward Spiral track into Islamic hellfire. :-)
'I think you feel superior to us; whilst the opposite is true...but you refuse to acknowledge this....I can feel sorry for you; but you know it does not have to be like this; take Allah SWT as your lord and be No. 1.'
So you think we are truly inferior to you, because we don't take Allah as our Lord. Thank you for confirming your mentality of Muslim supremacism.
No surprise there considering the known widespread persecution of unbelievers in Muslim lands, but it is well to have your written confession.
Your Allah has made a pathetic fool of you, convincing you of your superiority while using his absurd rules and teachings to make sure you remain helplessly inferior.
Obama is all over UK newswires getting tough on US intelligence agencies (an oxymoronic joke in itself!) for not joining the dots on the Christmas bomber.
So why then is he not similarly exercised about the act of another terrorist who left a huge trail of incriminating evidence and made it clear to the entire world (but obviously not to the joke that is the US intelligence agencies) that he was going to muslim on his fellow soldiers at Ford Hood?
The only thing US "intelligence" is good at is helping Pakistan kill Indians.
Let's keep in mind that the Obama electorate was comprised of a hard-left core, those bamboozled into some romanticized notion of "change", and those who felt that it would be a fine and cosmopolitan thing to elect a nonwhite president regardless of his political stance (as many explained to me during pre-election discussions). In other words, the BHO administration feels about America pretty much the same way that its core constituency does - ambivalent at best.
To get riled up about an airplane full, predominantly, of Americans, when there is so much suffering in the rest of the world, would be downright jingoistic and insensitive. With our new postmodern president, a much "broader" view is taken in which the good of the whole world, as opposed to that of one country (albeit the one he was elected to protect), is paramount. In a sick sense, we got a president who really does represent the views of his constituents.
Based on the polls, it looks like buyers' remorse is beginning to set in. I hope the Obama experience will give pause to many future voters who feel that electing a US president requires no more thoughtful consideration than voting for a contestant on American Idol.
Hey Yom,
Let's take your 'elaborations' one by one shall we?
"1)External influences such as elders, (e.g. grandads, imams) come into play on how to dress. "
You mean bullying, threats and coercion toward women endemic within your foul totalitarian belief system.
"2)Internal influences such as a lifetime's training of habits and clothes wear comes into play. "
You mean the indoctrination that occurs as a result of 1).
"3) A rich history of 1400 years "tells" me that we are right. Kuffar clothes wear has changed so much...even between Victorian times to now, whereas we are a constant."
Ha! A frank admission that dar-al-islam can't evolve sufficiently in 1400 years to even develop its clothing. (I'll refrain from enumerating all the other ways in which the religion of crap has failed to evolve - we'd be here all day).
"4) Moral arguments ...such as not showing your face or curves of your body to keep kuffar learing and purvying over women ranks very highly in our thinking."
What in the name of all that's holy (and no, I'm not referring your paedo-prophet and moon god) is moral about hiding one's face from the world? Aren't your aware of the reasons why homo sapiens have evolved with such excellent eyesight and such a poor sense of smell? It's because we identify one another via (primarily) facial recognition, and because the face is an utterly essential non-verbal part of interpersonal communication. Eight or so million years of evolution and you mahoundians come up with an innovation that renders the human form as expressive as a sea slug. Brilliant. Well done.
Oh, BTW it's 'leering' and 'perving'. And based on the muslimahs I've seen uncovered I don't think I'll be doing either of the above activities toward them any time this side of hell freezing over.
Regards
Barguest
Alaskan Infidel - you said it well and I fully agree. Anyone sharing our opinions might want to check out David Horowitz's new little pamphlet "Barack Obama's Rules for Revolution - the Alinsky Model".
Obama is drawing the "best" (from a socialist's point of view)of Gramscii-Marx, Cloward-Piven, and Alinsky. These all derive from Marx. They are all about tearing down western society, beginning with religion, education, getting power, taking property from the haves and giving it to the have-nots, finally a utopia, say like Cuba, with concentration camps & re-ed camps for people like you and me.
From your post -"......if your heart "melts"?"
Is heart melting a common condition among the ummah? I, myself, have never heard of a case in Western medicine of this sort. Is it caused by constantly reading or reciting the Qur'an? It might cause "heartburn" (It is boring to read, even in Arabic, I am told). So, heartburn leads to heart melting. It must be dangerous to believe in the prophet (BBOH).
"And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear."
He is an idiot." - efoc
Oh, yes. Hussein is a blithering idiot. And don't forget that in his book he proudly proclaims that he will "stand with the Muslims."
Oh, we got that, Hussein. We got that LOUD AND CLEAR.
To Yom-Al-Juma, MPBUY:
First of all there is the issue of hypocracy as it pertains to Obama's administration VS. that of Bush's. Congress and their mouth pieces in the media would have villified a Bush apointee for such behavior. Obama gets a pass for continuing his vacation while Bush was never supposed to take one. No Yom, I was not a Bush supporter.
Now as for your "1400 years of RICH tradition". If the systematic genocide and subjugation of ones neighbors counts as RICH TRADITION then that sir is an example of how the debate is pointless. Can you please show me in the Bible where it once says that we should convert, tax, and subjugate by the sword? As for you not feeling safe. Please oh please I beg you, give me one only one examople of a Mormon Missionary, Catholic School Girl or Baptist Seminary Student strapping a bomb to them. Furthermore tell me why it is so easy for Mulims to come to Europe or the USA and worship as they please and build Mosques while Infadels can't do that in Muslim countries?
Your words are TAQIYYA and deception, distrust, and disrespect are in your DNA. Yes we fear you and for damn good reason.
Leiter is a Bush administration remnant. Whipping up the public with newspapers stories about him not returning to his office may be the sound of the B. Hussein Obama bus that is about to run him over, while Janet Icompetento gets pushed out of the path of the bus (at least for now).
Barguest,
As usual you kuffar like to twist things. Our elders don't bully, threaten or coerce the children to dress in a certain manner....it's because we show love and respect towards them. Consider if you will...if every child in a school is wearing a headscarf....you don't want go in there without one....your elders will tell you to wear one too.
When in a western country ofcourse things get a bit more complicated...but usually only when kuffaria peers "teach" our children to bith to the elders and not listen...in effect your grandchildren are spoiling ours.
As for history, We don't change our fashions because we are secure in our identity. Kuffar have no identity ...not really...you even change your god and religion or your "holy" book and call it "reformation"....have you no shame at all in challenging what your god has told you is holy?
You can keep changing if you want to ...we have no reason to, we are at the top of the tree; champions are always subject to challenges; this is nothing new to us.
Champions have energy to keep going and have very few external requirements....the rest we carry in our head....so what if you need to install a few foot baths here and there, cleanliness of the feet is akin to cleaniness of the soul. If you want to be a champion...you know what you have to do.
Have you no shame in worshipping a pagan idol, a moon god from Arabian mythology?
Have you no shame in buying the "self-proclaimed" prophet's line of total BS?
Have you barbarians no shame in mass-murdering other people because your moon god (i.e Warlord Con Man Mo) instructs you to do so?
Have you no shame in being such an uber-misogynist society that females have no civil rights and must wear Black Hefty Bags so acid won't get thrown on them? Which it does, anyway.
Have you no shame in immigrating to Western countries? Your own "allah" countries aren't good enough for you?
Have you no shame in being a brainwashed moron? Believing the Warlord's "72 virgins" crap?
Have you no shame in being part of a society that hasn't given the world anything in 1400 years but the vile Koran? Have you no shame in being leeches and parasites of the West, which has invented and created basically everything, including the computer with which you pen your idiotic propaganda?
Oh, that's right - Islam has no shame. No Ten Commandments, no Golden Rule. And the irony is, of course - that's it's you people who have the MOST to be ashamed of.
I get kinda wound up when my President is trying to destroy my country.
Alaskan Infidel:
Not your president. Their president.
Salam Darcy,
Have you no shame in worshipping a pagan idol...NO.
Have you no shame in buying the "self-proclaimed" prophet's line of total BS? ....NO
Have you barbarians no shame in mass-murdering other people because your moon god (i.e Warlord Con Man Mo) instructs you to do so?...YES
Those who murder are misunderstanders lacking in the instruction of our teacher...nothing can be done with these...the kuffar armies spend their time trying to eliminate them... They bring shame to Islam....the problems here is that you are trying to lump them with me...SHAME on YOU for that..
Have you no shame in immigrating to Western countries? Allah SWT showed our teacher a square /cube. "Your muslim is allowed to live anywhere on this cube"....this is my duniya...no one can deny you this. Your "countries" are Western only because you have a majority on them for the moment...Turkey and Sudan and Lebonan were Western too ...now they are not....that's is Alla's SWT miracle. I have no idea what will happen to the current "Western" countries...but I can think about the cube shown to the teacher....you can join the dots from here.
Islam has no shame. No Ten Commandments, no Golden Rule...You are wrong....Islam has thousand of commamdments...we have a rule for everything....it is why we are such an ordered and dominant society.
Yom
NCTC director Michael Leiter remained on ski slopes after Christmas attempted jihad attack
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And why not? President Obama didn't return to Washington for *ten days* after the attack—which I'm sure is the date—the first Monday after the New Year—when he was scheduled to return anyway.
The spectacle of Obama "getting tough" with his staff is grotesque, since they are all taking their cues from "the top"—Obama's own lax attitude toward terrorism and any threat to the American people.
Of course, this is not to excuse people like Leiter and Naplitano—just because their "Commander-in-Chief" doesn't care doesn't mean they can't.
Yom al-Hiraba:
Let us take as a given that most of us fully recognize that Western civilization is, especially in its present state, morally diseased.
That fact does not automatically mean that Islam is the cure. Without getting obsessive let us take as a given that Western society has been having a problem with sexual immorality as of late. Islam's solution is to put women in bags, and if they so much as expose an ankle or eyebrow, or travel out of the house without a male family member, it is to be assumed that they have become whores. Any women not adhering to that standard are also to be presumed whores, take the increasing rape rates in increasingly Muslim-populated European states as an example.
And let us not forget the Islamic portrayal of Paradise, a place of carnal pleasures that reduces the ultimate hope of all humanity to a disgusting brothel.
All we really need to do to make Islam look ridiculous is keep to a higher standard of self-restraint, which is about as difficult as putting on a hat.
Not everyone here is Christian. I am, some other people here are not. Not every Christian here is Protestant. I am, some other people here are not. I wonder if you truly understand that this statement only applies to a certain segment of us, whether you comprehend to any reasonable extent the religious heterogeneity of everyone here, or if you even have any clear idea of what you are talking about.
I have trouble believing that you have given much depth of attention to the history of the Protestant Reformation, for instance, or the early Church, or anything that hasn't already been prechewed for you.
Yom,
'"Your muslim is allowed to live anywhere on this cube".'
Let me interpret this for you.
It means that somewhere out in the next galaxy or the one after that there is a cube shaped planet. Allah made it just for Muslims. It is groovy, with lots of virgins and cool stuff.
All you have to do is build a fleet of space ships, have faith, let Allah guide you and go. All of you.
Am I the only one? I'm from a Jewish liberal family and work around many liberals who once thought Obama was the Second Coming. I am hearing these people express doubts and fears I never dared hope to hear from them. I am full of hope for the near future. Team Hate America is bankrupt in every conceivable sense of the term. Just one more 'ooops' should do it.
Yom is so lost, he will never find his way...Like a drunk in a dark room full of empty boxes trying to find the light switch...Speaking of that it also fits Rasool Obama.
We are at war with Al-Qaeda...This is about as stupid and misdirected as it gets...If Rasool killed every Al-Qaeda in the world, jihad will continue just the same...If every Taliban died, jihad will continue...
My prediction made over a year ago that by Jan 20 2010, the people that elected him will be howling for his impeachment...
My timing may be a little off, but the tide of approval has been steadily turning against him and his disastrous policies...I watched his speech about the improving intelligence and security...He never looks directly at anyone, his head turned from one side to the other, over 'two hundred times' in the short speech. I quit counting at 190......An agitated body reflects an agitated mind...A sure sign the he is lying and covering up...He's good at making fine sounding speeches, but better at fibbing...
He is shooting himself in the foot...If he says he is going to 'fix' US intelligence agencies, and there is another serious attack, he is toast...
There's a certain poster here who seems it's her (she writes of the experience of wearing a burka) duty to belittle, humiliate and threaten anyone not a Muslim. She even slams the West's ability to self-criticize and revise its thinking.
Those who refuse to entertain the possibility of change are doomed to remain mired in the mud of warped thinking, where as this poster says, "there's a rule for everything."
And this "ordered" Islamic society she writes of is apparently exemplified by the howls of Pakistani "rage boy," the waving of bloodthirsty placards in Western cities, bloody punitive amputations, stones hurled at a bloodied "criminal" half-buried in the earth, female children removed from their families to be "married" to old men, and young men bent on murderous self-destruction.
If that's an ordered society, we here in the West are indeed fortunate that we have the privilege of disorder.
Am I the only one? I'm from a Jewish liberal family and work around many liberals who once thought Obama was the Second Coming. I am hearing these people express doubts and fears I never dared hope to hear from them. I am full of hope for the near future. Team Hate America is bankrupt in every conceivable sense of the term. Just one more 'ooops' should do it.
TO Poetcomic1:
What is your secret to advanced critical thinking skills?
I work with liberals of all etnicities and they are still in denial. Any comment on Obama is hate or racism. Those of us who supported neither candidate and voted Libertarian in protest last time are looked upon as the fringe just because we see both sides for what they are. I need logic Spok, pure logic.
Yom_al_Juma, ( in short -"Friday"... ).
Defoe's "Crusoe and Friday" story, must have inspiered you during the process of choosing your 'Pen Name'!...
Especially after realizing that Master - Slave relations between Modernity-Sience & Barbarism-Brutality ,can't be fixed by assimilation!
What has left is, Assasination! But you know all about it much better the me!! Right?
abuamnon.
Yom_al_Juma, ( in short -"Friday"... ).
Defoe's "Crusoe and Friday" story, must have inspiered you during the process of choosing your 'Pen Name'!...
Especially after realizing that Master - Slave relations between Modernity-Sience & Barbarism-Brutality ,can't be fixed by assimilation!
What has left is, Assasination! But you know all about it much better the me!! Right?
abuamnon.
Rico -
What are you a marijuana field pit bull attack dog? Even the polls back me up that faith in the Big O is slipping. And I'm just noticing a good trend of SOME people waking up and you act like you want to 'tear me another one'.
The top official in charge of analyzing terror threats did not cut short his ski vacation after the underwear bomber nearly blew up...
Leiter did nothing wrong. Look, even Ivy League Men have the common sense to know that the cause is hopeless, a Sisyphean task where it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when and how many.
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If you look at the chain of command going up from him, from Jim to Janet to Barack, this is a Keystone Cop troup playing in a black comedy.
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They don't care how stupid and lazy they look. The whole point here is to close on the pending Conversion to Socialism, a decades long project ready to come to fruition at long last. Part of that is to stop the bullcrap American Cowboy thing that's caused all the trouble with Islam and cool things down with Moslems by appeasing them.
That's their plan.
Quoting Yom_al_Juma: "however many muslims do not know that this clothing is optional"
Is this supposed to make me sympathetic toward muslims? Is this supposed to cause me to lower my guard and say "Oh, my bad! Never mind about this whole anti-terrorism thing! Go ahead and slaughter us as you see fit."
It is not our fault if muslims are so ignorant of your own religion that you can't even figure out what sort of attire is appropriate for public wear, especially while traveling via commercial carrier or mass transit.
Y'all don't seem to have too much trouble remembering the hate-filled, murder-inspiring parts of the Satanic rantings of your sociopathic, child-molesting "prophet".
Peddle your bullshit somewhere else.
Perhaps the good news is, finally after 8 /dreadful/ years, Americans got themselves a moonbat government and now they have suddenly remembered what moonbat governments are like and find it highly distasteful, naive, complacent, even deadly.
From APF above...That's their plan.
I agree, but the 'plan' falls into the category of 'You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time'...I think Obama and his plan are running out of time...That's probably why they are in such a hurry to implement their BS plans...Quickly before too many people get wise...I would like to see Congress put the breaks on, but that requires guts and a spine...There is little of that in the US House or senate...Cowards do not make good representatives...
Read Mayor Rudy Giuliani on Newsmax.com...He say's Rasool has it wrong about terrorism...
If you think about it, in their intellectual and moral cowardice, they are showing physical courage in an insentient way: there is big Infidel pain, physical pain, in the offing.
To Poetcomic1:
Wow dude, too much caffeine. I was complementing your analysis. As for me being a "MJ PITBULL", I don't smoke it and never have. If you will notice I portrayed a libertarian vote as protest or a none of the above vote. I agree with you that faith is slipping. However I work for the federal government and it is full of blacks and liberals who make honest discourse impossible. I only wish I could engage them in such a format as this. Many don't care if we endure economic or Islamic suffering. Obama is to them as Muhhamed is to the devout Muslim, he can do no wrong. I pride myself on at least trying to look at both sides of the coin. JEEZ!
Breaking News: "Fighting Terrorism; No Longer a Policy Of The United States"
http://the-raw-deal.com/2010/01/07/america-welcomes-terrorism/
Any idea what's going on?
Nathan R. Jessup
http://www.the-raw-deal.com
Breaking News: "Fighting Terrorism; No Longer a Policy Of The United States"
http://the-raw-deal.com/2010/01/07/america-welcomes-terrorism/
Any idea what's going on?
Nathan R. Jessup
http://www.the-raw-deal.com
I is a simple case of ALL of our homeland security teams falling asleep while on alert for sleepers of the Islamic type.
Dear Yom,
1400 years of slavery, pedophilia, drug production, the corruption of absolute power in the leaders of the Caliphate. Just like the rest of humanity, congratulations. You are no better than anyone here. I travel in Islamic countries and see your fellow religionists going into brothels, drinking at hotels, using drugs. I see the influence of shame and oppression that your elders impose on others. I'm curious as to what you think of Darwin's work?
The members of the SS believed that they were superior as well. They too had rules for everything and were very disciplined. They had the balls at least to put on the trappings of a military uniform before subjecting genocide upon their fellow humans. So why don't you do a little reading of history as to what happened to their misguided understanding of the world and themselves. In case your forbidden to read that, here's the brief version: WE KILLED THEM SINCE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO ABANDON THEIR BELIEF SYSTEM. So I ask of you, is your burka a military uniform? Is it a tool for the suppression of human rights? Guess what, I do look at your attire and wonder what's under there; what scars and bruises lie hidden to keep you covered in shame that you will not stand up for your rights.
Please show me the YouTube footage of Nuns, Monks (Christian and Zen) and other religions inflicting death and harm on their fellow humans. Guess what, there isn't any other than the occasional monk torching themselves AND ONLY THEMSELVES in protest.
The only supremacy is God's love. As a flawed human, I hope that you can accept that. I reject your version of what is true and good. Feel free for you and any of your other thugs masquerading as pious religionists to try and come collect the Jizya from my family and I. I have it available it denominations of 5.56mm, 7.62mm and 9mm for those who would wage war on the free world.
I don't understand the fuss.
Obama would have only made things worse by weighing in...I'd rather he were AWOL. It is totally in his character to treat this like a shoplifting incident at the duty free counter.
What did Obama do to alleviate terror? Oh yeah, no bathroom breaks for the last hour of flight.
Obama only said what he did because his polls sagged further.
And as for Leiter, his "Bush holdover," you can save that. Leiter stayed on or was kept by Obama for a reason. He is Obama's boy now.
I just wish non-Muslims would be more aggressive about taking on Islam--if we were half as aggressive they would soon give up or face annihilation. They (the Muslims) are apt to use our good nature against us--it's so twisted.
"...please look after yourself and nurse your delicate heart condition by not getting wound up. Who is going to look after your dogs if your heart 'melts'?"
Love, peace and comfort ...mohammedan style. So garbage in, garbage out, and Yom is what you get.
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We love you, AlalkanInfidel! :)
"...please look after yourself and nurse your delicate heart condition by not getting wound up. Who is going to look after your dogs if your heart 'melts'?"
Well AI, at least you know you made an impression on Yom, she/he remembers you!
I agree with Champ, we love ya!!
Hi, Gymgal! ...Hugz :)
Let's not forget good ol' double-ought buckshot. :)
Yom_al_Juma
As I understand it, Muslims have many rules to follow, many rules that dictate their actions.
By following the "rules" one achieves a life here that hopefully will be at a level of holiness to make one acceptable to Allah after death.
Christians do not have rules to follow. They have a person to follow, Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ lived out truth and love. His "law" is the law of love, not just for those like oneself, but for all, including those who insult and attack.
"The Ten Commandments" and "The Golden Rule" are principles to apply using one's intellect and insight, not rote mechanical activities or meaningless external, superficial things such how many yards of fabric a woman must have in a garment in order to be modest...or how many times a day one must stop all productive activity and kneel and recite memorized words.
There is no "rule" that a Christian can obey that will aid him in achieving heaven, because heaven is achieved by trusting Jesus Christ, not by self improvement.
Muslims are bound by a hopeless system of "good works" trying to emulate a man who
was devoid of love, who lived by and promoted lies and deception.
A person who follows Jesus Christ is free... to face the truth, free to hate deception, free to learn to love other people...all kinds of people, not just Christians, just as the One he follows loved all.
I would hope for you an open mind to consider these things. There can be no freedom as long as a person is bound by rule upon rule. External obedience to rules is bondage and will never bring freedom or happiness or produce the wonderful things that freedom and happiness produce!
lol
You worship a mass-murder-commanding pagan moon god that doesn't exist. What you worship is a psychopath Warlord.
Shame on you! Brainwashed Barbarian.
Stay in your own countries and get out of ours.
"it is why we are such an ordered and dominant society" - Yom
LOL! Hey people - the mass-murdering Mohammedans are "ordered!" Ha-Ha! And Newsflash: You AIN'T "dominant!"
The West has invented and created basically everything, while you Mohammedans are parasites. Which is why you're using a Western-invented computer right now! Here's what Mohammedans have contributed to the world in 1400 years: The accursed koran. End of story. Aren't you ashamed of yourselves? You SHOULD be!
Yoms_a_Jerk:
Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, jerk. Only a complete and utter jerk would make such a heartless and soulless comment to AI; so for your 911, everyone is now laughing at You, Yom. And your entire speech about being a champion is equally laughable. Ha Ha Ha .....
Keep on deluding yourself, Yoms_a_Jerk, but we won't be deluded by your filthy lies, because true champions want NOTHING to do with your iSlime.
Be gone, jerk.
Brava, champ!
Exactly!
Thank you, darcy! :)
“Those who murder are misunderstanders lacking in the instruction of our teacher...nothing can be done with these...the kuffar armies spend their time trying to eliminate them... They bring shame to Islam....the problems here is that you are trying to lump them with me...SHAME on YOU for that..”
Yom, what kind of a distinction do you make here? Between innocent Muslims like you and those self-confessed Muslims who murder and bring shame to Islam? Are those the terrorists that have perpetrated by now approx. 15.000 terror-attacks since 9/11? Along with all the Muslims that oppress our brothers Christians, Hindus, other religions? And those who uphold the death sentence for apostates from Islam to the religions other people follow, including Atheism?
So now you blame people like Darcy for lumping those with people like you? So, OK, most Muslims are not actually murderers. But what if somehow these murderers achieve victory and “western countries” become Islamic, through a lot of murders and violence, like other Christian or Hindu countries once were, will the other Muslims like you not profit from that? Do you not have the same goal of replacing Democratic laws with god-given theocratic laws?
So far I have heard of very few Muslims who openly favor Democratic laws over Theocratic, shariah laws, who openly favor democracy in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and other Islamic dictatorial countries and the efforts of NATO in Afghanistan. Can you do that?
While it seems so logical to us that Muslims should support this, because democracy is the system that should work for every religion who wishes to share the world fair and peaceably, giving each religion it’s due, favoring none outrageously anywhere.
Or is the peacefulness of Islam, as Muslims see it, only achievable when Islam is supreme over the other religions? And are the followers of the other religions supposed to take this lying down?
It’s really incomprehensible to me that Muslims don’t understand that they in majority just have to be loyal to democracy and the governments of the countries they have chosen to live in, who were elected by the people surrounding them everywhere. Instead the vast majority of their protests is against these governments and their fellow-citizens!
I don’t understand that they at best by and large intransigently remain silent about the future system of government of the world’s countries and hardly protest against those Muslims that now govern dictatorially and fight democracy tooth and nail.
And then they ask: Why do they vilify us so much?
“Those who murder are misunderstanders lacking in the instruction of our teacher...nothing can be done with these...the kuffar armies spend their time trying to eliminate them... They bring shame to Islam....the problems here is that you are trying to lump them with me...SHAME on YOU for that..”
Yom, what kind of a distinction do you make here? Between innocent Muslims like you and those self-confessed Muslims who murder and bring shame to Islam? Are those the terrorists that have perpetrated by now approx. 15.000 terror-attacks since 9/11? Along with all the Muslims that oppress our brothers Christians, Hindus, other religions? And those who uphold the death sentence for apostates from Islam to the religions other people follow, including Atheism?
So now you blame people like Darcy for lumping those with people like you? So, OK, most Muslims are not actually murderers. But what if somehow these murderers achieve victory and “western countries” become Islamic, through a lot of murders and violence, like other Christian or Hindu countries once were, will the other Muslims like you not profit from that? Do you not have the same goal of replacing Democratic laws with god-given theocratic laws?
So far I have heard of very few Muslims who openly favor Democratic laws over Theocratic, shariah laws, who openly favor democracy in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and other Islamic dictatorial countries and the efforts of NATO in Afghanistan. Can you do that?
While it seems so logical to us that Muslims should support this, because democracy is the system that should work for every religion who wishes to share the world fair and peaceably, giving each religion it’s due, favoring none outrageously anywhere.
Or is the peacefulness of Islam, as Muslims see it, only achievable when Islam is supreme over the other religions? And are the followers of the other religions supposed to take this lying down?
It’s really incomprehensible to me that Muslims don’t understand that they in majority just have to be loyal to democracy and the governments of the countries they have chosen to live in, who were elected by the people surrounding them everywhere. Instead the vast majority of their protests is against these governments and their fellow-citizens!
I don’t understand that they at best by and large intransigently remain silent about the future system of government of the world’s countries and hardly protest against those Muslims that now govern dictatorially and fight democracy tooth and nail.
And then they ask: Why do they vilify us so much?
1)External influences such as elders, (e.g. grandads, imams) come into play on how to dress.
2)Internal influences such as a lifetime's training of habits and clothes wear comes into play.
3) A rich history of 1400 years "tells" me that we are right. Kuffar clothes wear has changed so much...even between Victorian times to now, whereas we are a constant.
4) Moral arguments ...such as not showing your face or curves of your body to keep kuffar learing and purvying over women ranks very highly in our thinking."
You have just made my point. Personal feelings and optional trump people who are non-Moslems getting killed. It is the great contempt, which you show again and again.
"4) Moral arguments ...such as not showing your face or curves of your body to keep kuffar learing and purvying over women ranks very highly in our thinking."
How many infidels are in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia where such practices occur? Is it not really done to keep your inner rapist chained Yom? You sure like to ascribe to others your own personal faults to others, don't you?
“Those who murder are misunderstanders lacking in the instruction of our teacher...nothing can be done with these...the kuffar armies spend their time trying to eliminate them... They bring shame to Islam....the problems here is that you are trying to lump them with me...SHAME on YOU for that..”
Yom, what kind of a distinction do you make here? Between innocent Muslims like you and those self-confessed Muslims who murder and bring shame to Islam? Are those the terrorists that have perpetrated by now approx. 15.000 terror-attacks since 9/11? Along with all the Muslims that oppress our brothers Christians, Hindus, other religions? And those who uphold the death sentence for apostates from Islam to the religions other people follow, including Atheism?
So now you blame people like Darcy for lumping those with people like you? So, OK, most Muslims are not actually murderers. But what if somehow these murderers achieve victory and “western countries” become Islamic, through a lot of murders and violence, like other Christian or Hindu countries once were, will the other Muslims like you not profit from that? Do you not have the same goal of replacing Democratic laws with god-given theocratic laws?
So far I have heard of very few Muslims who openly favor Democratic laws over Theocratic, shariah laws, who openly favor democracy in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and other Islamic dictatorial countries and the efforts of NATO in Afghanistan. Can you do that?
While it seems so logical to us that Muslims should support this, because democracy is the system that should work for every religion who wishes to share the world fair and peaceably, giving each religion it’s due, favoring none outrageously anywhere.
Or is the peacefulness of Islam, as Muslims see it, only achievable when Islam is supreme over the other religions? And are the followers of the other religions supposed to take this lying down?
It’s really incomprehensible to me that Muslims don’t understand that they in majority just have to be loyal to democracy and the governments of the countries they have chosen to live in, who were elected by the people surrounding them everywhere. Instead the vast majority of their protests is against these governments and their fellow-citizens!
I don’t understand that they at best by and large intransigently remain silent about the future system of government of the world’s countries and hardly protest against those Muslims that now govern dictatorially and fight democracy tooth and nail.
And then they ask: Why do they vilify us so much?
"And then they ask: Why do they vilify us so much?"
'Cause we're young, fast and scientific.
"So now you blame people like Darcy for lumping those with people like you?"
"Kill non-Muslims wherever you find them. Lie in wait and ambush them, seize and capture them using every stratagem of war." - Qur'an 9:5
Yom could be a follower of "Sudden Jihad Syndrome" at any time. There's no way to tell, as his moon god (Warlord Mohamet) commands:
"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." (Bukhari 1.2.25)
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And champ, you're VERY welcome!
"I watched his speech about the improving intelligence and security...He never looks directly at anyone, his head turned from one side to the other, over 'two hundred times' in the short speech. I quit counting at 190......An agitated body reflects an agitated mind...A sure sign the he is lying and covering up..." -- duh-swami
Excellent observation.
Thanks champ.
I have 13 dogs now and the latest is a Basset Hound some sorry sack o' crap was beating. He's all twisted and beyond bow legged, yet he gets around fine and is now, quite happy.
He bays and barks constantly whilst playing with the rest of my crew.
I just think of barking dogs when Yom posts. Barking back is a waste of time and looks silly. Poor Yom will only realize the error of his ways when he is burning in hell.
No islam...Know Peace.
Know islam...throw up.
y_a_j is busy whining to both Robert 'n CAIR ....
Agreed, AlaskanInfidel! ...and you are very welcome, dear friend :)
"No islam...Know Peace.
Know islam...throw up."
LOL ..how true!
Yom-al-Juma, you are quite obviously uncomfortable in a Western society. In other posts you have revealed how homesick you are for your beloved Pakistan. So, why don't you just return home, and forget about your hopeless fantasy of converting the West to Islam? It ain't gonna happen, you know. Not being constrained by inflexibility in our thinking we'll always be able to keep one step ahead of you. All the present skirmishes that are going on between Islam and West are nothing more than range finding on our part. Once these preliminaries are over and we have your range it'll be over. The details of how this will play out might be unknown, but the final outcome isn't. So you should just go home to Pakistan, live out your life peacefully by filling your days with the minutia of being a Muslim, and not concern yourself further with all these matters of the temporal world you find so confusing.
Y' know... I considered that. As an NRA lifer, when Clinton was President I had a bumper sticker that read, "Charlton Heston is My President".
However, the truth is he is my President. He's a lying, commie loving, Marxist, anti-American sack of crap, but, he's my President. I grow ill at the thought.
The Christmas ornament with the image of Mao on the White House Christmas tree said it all...as if I needed further convincing.
I am a Conservative, Constitutionalist, Capitalist Pig and proud of it.
I am the opposite of our President in nearly every way. I am and have always been proud of my country. I love it and want to see it thrive and grow. He seeks to shrink and neuter us in all ways. He killed the Raptor and removed them from Alaska where they were most effective and valuable for the protection of the US, wants to reduce our Nuclear arms to levels less than those in the Pentagon feel is safe. Cap and Trade will kill millions of jobs as will the mandates of the EPA. He has, through his appointments of other anti-Americans, stopped most oil exploration and drilling here in Alaska. Using Polar Bears, Caribou and Beluga Whales to remove immense areas from the control of the people and placed those lands and areas of the sea in the hands of the government. Funny how all those areas are known to hold vast quantities of oil, gas and gold.
He backed an attempted overthrow of the Honduran government by a wanna be Castro. Incredible...
He seeks to insure his re-election by seizing control of the census and by giving amnesty to illegal aliens that will surely vote for him and other scum like him. He sees the success that Chavez has enjoyed from similar tactics and seeks to repeat same.
This however, is America. He will fail. The sleeping giant that is the American people is beginning to stir. Five or six more slaps in the face is all it will take. I knew him for what he is when he raised his hand for the first blow. Alan Keyes rant about Obama look pretty sane now.
islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.
Garsh...I'm overwhelmed. Thanks.
Yes...I think Yom has a crush on me.
islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.
"The Christmas ornament with the image of Mao on the White House Christmas tree said it all...as if I needed further convincing." - AlaskanInfidel
Wait a minute. Hussein had a pic of mass-murdering Communist Mao on the White House Christmas tree?
Garsh...I'm overwhelmed. Thanks.
Yes...I think Yom has a crush on me.
islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.
Garsh...I'm overwhelmed. Thanks.
Yes...I think Yom has a crush on me.
islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.
Garsh...I'm overwhelmed. Thanks.
Yes...I think Yom has a crush on me.
islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.
http://hypocrisy.com/files/2009/12/mao-ornament.jpg
pic for you darcy, google "mao ornament" for story
Yep. Also an ornament with the image of some radical, weirded out transgender thing on it.
Our Commie in Chief is a Marxist to the core. I see darcy provided the link I was going to.
Celebrating a mass murderer on the WH Christmas tree. A man directly responsible for the deaths of tens of millions whilst he was alive and millions more after his death...a hero in the White House.
His killing machine goes on killing without him...much like mo (Piss Be Upon Him) and his killing machine, islam.
Just a few more slaps in the face like that and America WILL awaken!
It's a little past noon now and I have roaches and bedbugs to kill today. Bedbugs...creep me out.
islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.
Salam,
All the kaffiran standing up for AI is very touching but you should know he is not really worth knowing. Imagine the bad smell if you will within a cold house...full of 13 dogs...stinking the place about ...of a man living alone who cannnot bend down to clean dog feaces incase he has dizzy spells from a weak heart...those dogs deserve better than jumping in and amongst feaces...you should be disgusted.
I should be your champion because I am trying to lead you to the noor...a path of salvation...a path lit with the heroes of Islam
Yom
Imagine the bad smell if you will within a cold house...full of 13 dogs...stinking
LMAO @ you Yom.
You think we have no heat in N. America?
duhhhh
And I for one would love to live with 13 dogs!! I LOVE dogs, and the bigger the better.
At least that way I wouldn't have any trouble from certain neighbor's.
"...you should be disgusted"
I am disgusted ..with You, Yom.
As far as being our champion goes ...HHHAAAAAAA!!!!HHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaHHHAAA!!!!!!!
Such Sidesplitting Stupidity ...my gaaaawd!
...a path lit with the heroes of Islam
Sounds like the path to hell, lighted with hellfires that await those who commit lying, thievery, murder, rape, incest, and every conceivable evil in the name of God.
Look, it's the 9/11 hijackers, over there--Arafat! He's smoldering next to the Mumbai terrorists. So many killers, so much fire! Heroes of Islam = demons of hell.
"I LOVE dogs, and the bigger the better."
So do I, Gymgal! ...our beloved Juiblee (Rottie) once gave birth to 8 beautiful healthy Puppies!, and that was the best time in our families life! Caring for those lil' stinkers (ha!) was an AMAZING experience, and all four of our children shared in the Joy as well. Boy, some people really miss out in tons of fun and joy by hating dogs ...just like Mohammad, the ultimate hater of both mankind and animals, too. Yeah, Mo was the perfect example of hatred. Loser.
Dear Yom:
Were you not supposed to be praying and head banging today?
How did you find the time to make all these posts?
Do you keep a laptop on your prayer rug?
May peace be upon your sore forehead.
Given the job he is doing with our security..I would just as well he stayed on the slopes. A good day of skiing beats a whole year of pretending to give a shit.
"Alaskan...IMHO please look after yourself and nurse your delicate heart condition by not getting wound up. Who is going to look after your dogs if your heart "melts"?
Ooops--You've tipped your hand, Naseem.
Yom_al_Juma,
===" I should be your champion because I am trying to lead you to the noor... a path of salvation...a path lit with the heroes of Islam "===
Where have you been all my life?
What do you mean by "NOOR"? The "FLASH" of a suicide bomber?
P.S.
Are there 72 Virgins on the end of this path?...
"I should be your champion because I am trying to lead you to the noor... a path of salvation...a path lit with the heroes of Islam "
Now, that's just silly, Naseem. You try to alienate anyone and everyone who does not (and will not) live by the nutty rules you live by. You aren't trying to save anyone. On the contrary, you are doing your best to make Islam all the more distasteful to those of us who can't swallow it as it is.
If ever I needed a reason to refuse Islam, you and your example would be that reason.
Let's see, Ypm_al_Juma.....would I rather live with a dog or with a worshipper of a child molester and someone who believes it's acceptable to screw the livestock and small boys?
I think I'll keep the dog.
I have a lovely, fierce Belgian Malinois sitting next to me on the couch right now. She will shred a given target on command. I just spent $200 on her at the veterinarian's office today, which is more money than I'd ever spend on curing a muslim of anything (other than trespassing on my land).
It is more like an Inferno.
I appreciate all you guys taking the time to refute, and rebuke, Yom; but somehow I can't muster the energy to do so. I consider Yom my mortal enemy and would just as soon shoot him/her/it as bother to expend one breath in even condemnation that way.
I think you're right. That's our little piglet Naseem...
My cabin is quite large and 2 story. Lots of room. I have dogs from 9 pounds to 340. English Mastiffs are great dogs for keeping Bears and Moose away. Their presence is all that is necessary. There's a 11 or 1200 pound Grizzly that lives within a half mile of me and mine. It stays clear of my place.My female Mastiff...her Poppa was 345 pounds and her Mama was 235. Still a puppy and right at 6 feet stretched out on the floor. No worries. I'm armed to the teeth and despite Naseems best wishes, my ticker is quite fine. I have been engaged in gathering firewood, splitting and stacking by hand. Love my wood stove. It was kinda spendy but the wood goes a long way. My little Toyostove Laser 73 oil stove burns 1/10th of a gallon an hour on low and heats the place quite well on its own...for when I'm lazy.
I think you're right. That's our little piglet Naseem...
Annie Oakley...my ole ladys last name really is Oakley.
islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.
No kidding. Naseem is fooling no one. The only things piglet brings are hatred and insults. She calls us "kuffar" as if it had no meaning. Like a KKK member saying "boy".
The strongest pillar of islam is the notion of superiority.
Naseem has obligingly offered up proof of that here on this thread. Nazis enjoyed that same feeling of superiority and just as surely as they were beaten and neutered so shall islam be.
That islamic pillar is the same pillar that is the center of any gang. Bloods, Crips...muslims...all the same. Each set believes themselves to be the toughest, the baddest. Their allegiance is to each other and to spreading the reach of their gang, gaining new territory, bringing in new members. Those that attempt to leave the gang are subject to death or have to suffer being "jumped out" as they were jumped in. The more violent gangs like islam and MS13, do not allow their members to leave once joined, unless they leave dead.
The similarities are obvious to the casual observer and are quite numerous.
islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.
This is hopeful yes, but it's a pity these types of people (I nearly wrote "idiots" but decided to be polite)
voted for a Messiah instead of a President.