"Karo-Kari" is honor killing. "Three women slain in Shikarpur over Karo-Kari," from The News International, January 20 (thanks to Block Ness):
KHAIRPUR: Three women were killed in Shikarpur on Tuesday on the charge of Karo-Kari. Sources said Nadir Shar shot dead his wife, Sughran, in village Rakhial Shar Ji Wandh and fled the scene. Police handed over the body to relatives after an autopsy. The police said the man killed his wife over Karo-Kari.Separately, Nasrullah Misrani shot dead his two wives in Lakhi Ghulam Shah over Karo-Kari....
Both of them!
http://schnellmann.org/Islamic_Stoning_to_Death.html
" Islamic Stoning to Death for Falling in Love
Maryam Namazie
President of Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain
Stoning in Islam - According to Hadith Sahih
http://schnellmann.org/http___faithfreedom.org_Articles_stoning.pdf
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Barbarians. Utter and complete 7th century AD Barbarians.
3 less baby factories in pakistan...
(Sarcasm and black humor on)....Well, Pedophile Mo did say that a man can take up to 4 wives as long as he is careful to treat them all the same.......(sarcasm and black humor off).
Former Malaysian PM Mahathir: 9-11 was staged, James Cameron's Avatar as evidence
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/1/21/nation/5516554&sec=nation
Because cults and religions use mysticism and believe and/or are led to believe ideas or philosophies that cannot be proven, they are in a constant battle with uncertainty, doubt and fear. This doubt and fear often lead to absurd behavior and thinking.
If a human is presenting some information that only that person knows without being able to provide evidence then at the very least they should exhibit supernatural and/or miraculous powers. If all they can provide are words then their message is to be placed in the same category as many other charlatans, false prophets and snake oil salespersons. This is especially true for those whose message does not have any or much value for humanity and/or the world we live in.
When someone speaks of the unknowable from the unknown there is no one to debate the issue with. You either accept it or you are doomed, whether you understand it or agree with it or not. This is not from a GOD of compassion, mercy or justice.
Because humans are part of the Omniverse/GOD, all human creativity, inventions, philosophies, thoughts, productions and the documentation of these are from the Omniverse/GOD. Human developments have evolved through processes of examination, trial and reductions in error similar to natural selection and survival of the fittest (truest). Errors in logic usually fade or are eliminated with investigation and experimentation. Religions that speak of the unknown or unknowable as the unquestionable truth or final word are stagnating the development of humanity while interfering with the deepening of the relationships that human have with their source and sustainer in the Omniverse/GOD.
As to the use of the unknown or unknowable in providing justification for punishment on this earth, it is not acceptable in the 21st Century. The life, hand, foot, freedom or social standing of anyone can no longer be taken because someone had a vision of or heard a voice from an unknown source. If GOD creates all things including the nature and/or nurture of errant humans and takes the lives of all things then GOD should be the only one taking lives, hands, feet or freedom from anyone on this planet for unknown violations, if GOD is not speaking to all with the same instructions. If humans are going to take the lives of humans there must be valid reasons grounded in the reality that we currently exist, not superstitions or unknown reasons. If the Omniversal GOD wants to punish or correct the creations for unknown or unknowable reasons then it must be left to this Omniversal Creator. Humans are far too corrupt to be given the authority from an unknown source to kill another human for unreasonable causes only known by a God that is not speaking to all.
Separately, Nasrullah Misrani shot dead his two wives in Lakhi Ghulam Shah over Karo-Kari....
Both of them!
Yeah, wives #3 amd #4 must have been good girls so far.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karo-kari
"Most karo kari cases are committed by a close relative - father, brother, son, or husband of the woman. Often, the victims are the most vulnerable members of the family or community. In either case, if and when the case reaches a court of law, the victim's family may 'pardon' the murderer (who may well be one of them), or be pressurised to accept diyat ('blood-money') as compensation. The murderer then goes free.
Once such a pardon has been secured, the state has no further writ on the matter. Although often the killers are relatives of the victim. Human rights agencies in Pakistan have repeatedly emphasized that women falling prey to karo-kari were usually those wanting to marry of their own will. In many cases, the victims held properties that the male members of their families did not wish to lose if the women chose to marry outside the family. More often than not, the karo-kari murder relates to inheritance problems, feud-settling or to get rid of the wife i.e. in order to remarry."
I'm not sure what the term "karo-kari" means since it was not explicityly defined in the article. It sounds like the "rights" of Henry VIII extended to masses of muslim men. Since Henry lived from 1491 to 1547, does this mean that Islam has now come into the 16th century?
http://schnellmann.org/Islamic_Stoning_to_Death.html
" Islamic Stoning to Death for Falling in Love
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Stephanie, thank you for posting this horrifying video of the murder of young Du'a. Poor girl! Every non-Muslim should see this, to understand the true horror of Shari'ah and what it has in store for all of us.
Isabella the Crusader wrote:
"Most karo kari cases are committed by a close relative - father, brother, son, or husband of the woman. Often, the victims are the most vulnerable members of the family or community. In either case, if and when the case reaches a court of law, the victim's family may 'pardon' the murderer (who may well be one of them), or be pressurised to accept diyat ('blood-money') as compensation. The murderer then goes free.
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The concept of blood money—rather than trial by the impartial state—is pretty questionable at the best of times, but it is grotesque in cases of "honor killing". Here, the family of the victim is *also the family of the murderer*. In many cases, they are sympathetic to the killer rather than the victim.
Family members who may care about the victim, and openly take that stance, are likely to wind up victims themselves. The desire—or pressure—to see the murderer go free, or at least incur lesser sanctions—is intense in most cases.
And with the situation of insular, inbred Muslim clans, the concept of blood money in many of these cases is largely theoretical—since the perpetrator would be in essence paying himself.
In all of these cases, the Muslim state supports and enables the horror of "honor killings".
Jim Smith you said:
I'm not sure what the term "karo-kari" means since it was not explicityly defined in the article. It sounds like the "rights" of Henry VIII extended to masses of muslim men. Since Henry lived from 1491 to 1547, does this mean that Islam has now come into the 16th century?
Well Henry the VIII only ruled from 1509 to 1546, and the only threat to him at the time was the Protestant movement. Now exactly what do you mean by your statement and what proof do you have. I have read the book "Bloody Mary" and it talks about the rule of Henry the VIII and in no way does it talk about him and Muslim men. So provide some proof, documented and unrefutable proof of your statement. The only "rights" he violated was that of the Prostestants and his legal wife Katherine of Aragon.
Anyway, I have never heard of karo-kari myself, but I am in full view of what "honor killings" are. It is sad that we worry so much about who we will offend(Muslims) and a brand of religion that can only be deemed as barbaric and inhumane(Islam). I see no one protesting on the streets of any nation in honor of these women and all women who are murdered in the name of "honor killings." Not even here in America where human rights, freedom, and liberty are the basis of all its citizens.
We worry about the victims of wars, poverty, hurricanes, earthquakes, starvation, which I am not saying we shouldn't but yet choose to turn a blind eye to the many "honor killings" in the world, even right here in America.
We want to say it is just a cultural thing, but do you notice that you only hear about "honor killings" in Islam. Hmm, does not take a genius or rocket scientist to figure out that "honor killings" and Islam are two sides of the same coin.
The family of the victim as stated by Isabella the Crusader is that any emotional reaction of feeling sympathy for the victim comes at a price of becoming victims themselves. The "honor killing" perpetrator or to be more blunt, murderer is considered a hero and therefore exspunged from all wrong doing.
It is condoned in Islam by Islamic clerics and highly encouraged.
We had the case of Amina and Sarah, murdered by their Egyptian father in Texas for dating non-muslim boys and becoming "Westernized". We had the case in Atlanta where a Pakistani father shot his daughter for wanting to divorce her Pakistani husband that she was forced to marry. We had the case of the radio host in New York who beheaded his wife because she wanted a divorce. The ironic thing about that is he tried to eradicate the myth that muslims were good people. Which many are, but his actions did not live up to his preaching.
As is the case with all "honor killings" this will be swept under the rug by the media, turn backs by the UN, and silence on the part of Amnesty International.
Why are human rights only granted to Islamic terrorists? Why do we pick and choose who is granted human rights?
Why is it that when innocent Iraqis and Afghanis are killed, that Amnesty International along with their partners in crime at the UN, condemn the Unites States, but gives a free pass when it comes to "honor killings" persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt, Christians all over the Muslim world, and beheadings of reporters, soldiers, and other civilians?
Muslims who say that women have high status in Islam are "misunderstanders" of their own religion.
Muslim apologists such as those on the left and the leftist media that believe that Islam promotes peace, tolerance, and the rights of women either do not know the dismal history of Islam or are afraid of becoming victims themselves of radical Islamists for "offending" them. Well, there is a name for these kinds of people. COWARDS!!
Viva Geert Wilders.
Viva la Jews!!
Viva Israel!
Viva Freedom and Liberty!!
Viva those who speak out against Islam!!
"Ignorance can be deadly, but silence even deadlier."
"Blessed are the idiots, for even they can be forgiven."
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Karo-Kari is the Pakistani version of honor killing.
See this link to experience the light of knowledge:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karo-kari
Karo-Kari is the Pakistani version of honor killing.
See this link to experience the light of knowledge:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karo-kari
Karo-Kari is the Pakistani version of honor killing.
See this link to experience the light of knowledge:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karo-kari