US Embassy trumpets Muslim aid to Haiti

If some Muslim nations and groups are finally responding to the crisis in Haiti, I'm glad to see it.

If they want to focus on Muslim aid perhaps they should start with the amounts actually contributed by some of the Muslim countries.

How about ackowledging Saudi Arabia's contribution for a start? It's a very wealthy nation so I anticipate its relief effort must have been huge; if someone could remind me.

I noticed about 4 or 5 days after the earthquake in Haiti that CNN had a banner running across the screen with "news headlines". One of the stories was "muslims raise over $800 million for earthquake relief". At the time I thought that was odd, since no other religions were singled out as money raisers. Maybe someone at the Embassy saw it and thought it was something to crow about?

I am happy money has been raised by them, but I think that labeling it with a religion just heightens the PCness of what we are living with in our world today.

For god's sake, Musaji offers a list of a handful of Muslim countries merely highlight the Muslim view of charity: from Muslims, for Muslims. Only in cases where the charity, if directed at non-Muslims, will help the image, and thus the cause, of Islam is such charity allowed.

And look at the pitifulamounts involved. The Muslim members of OPEC have received more than twelve trillion dollars since 1973 alone. The U.A.E. all by itself, with a total population that surely cannot reach a million, is sitting on a rainy-day sum last reported to be $800 billion. The Al-Saud have equal amounts or even more, squirreled away.

And none of that was the result of either entrepreneurial flair or hard work, but merely comes from an accident of geology. And whenever disaster strikes -- in Aceh, say, from the tsunami, or Pakistan, from an earthquake, the Saudis and other rich Muslims do not shake even the change from their pocket. They wait, everyone waits, for the Inifidels to come to the rescue. And so far, the Infidels always have. Perhaps they should sit out the next one, and the next -- if the parties involved are Muslim. Let's see the rich members of the Umma demonstrate that "social justice" we hear that Islam is all about -- at least in the Da'wa that is conducted in prisons among the economically marginal -- by giving lots of aid and other forms of support to non-oil-rich fellow members of the Umma. That would be instructive.

This is just laying down a marker. The moment anyone in the future says that Zakat only goes to Muslims, as they have done in the past, there will be a chorus of 'Haiti' from apologists for Islam.

Let's not wait for an earthquake or two. Let's have Saudi Arabia, the U.A.E., Kuwait, Qatar, Oman, Libya, Algeria and Iran all step in with tens of billions of dollars in aid for Afghanistan and Pakistan. If indeed it is not the ideology of Islam, but rather "poverty" and "lack of jobs" that causes those "violent extremists" who have nothing to do with Islam, bien entendu, then the rich Muslim states can prove this to their detractors and doubters in the West by helping all the poor Muslim states out of their poverty, and provide jobs for all Muslims who need it. Come to think of it, they can make donations to the treasuries and exchequers of the Infidel lands to be earmarked to pay for all the expensive benefits that right now are taken advantage of by Muslims, and for which, all over Western Europe, Infidel taxpayers have been footing the entire bill.

What a good way to use up some of that easy-won pile of cash on which so many tiny sheiklets are sitting, and many of their Muslim neighbors, those emirates, sultanates, and sinister kingdoms, do too. Let them share their wealth with Muslims everywhere, in Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb alike. Not through campaigns of Da'wa, or more mosques and madrasas, but through welfare spending, so that the burden of the high Muslim unemployment (with the women staying largely at home to breed, and the men not having, nor wanting to acquire, in many cases, either the higher training, or the kind of attitude, that would make possible their integration into the workforce of an advanced industrial nation).

Aid is given, carefully and with calculation aforethought, if it is deemed to serve Muslim needs, to non-Muslims. Look at the Saudi princeling, the one with the facial tic, who wrote out that check and presented it so publicly to Mayor Giuliani -- that ten million dollars (Giuliani properly refused to accept it) was a kind of blood money, designed to temporarily assuage the fury of New Yorkers and other Americans.

Last week, before Saudi Arabia had given a dime to the relief effort in Haiti, I spammed every email address I could find at the Saudi Mission to the UN here in NYC. I politely questioned whether their nation had a soul. Apparently they've decided that it's better to appear to have one.

"It is difficult sometimes not to respond in the same bigoted and vicious vein to those who continually attempt to cast all Muslims as the super villains of planet earth."

Dear Shiela,

CAIR sent a copy of Islam's Big Book to me a few years ago, and I'd be willing to bet a can of Danish ham that your copy reads the same as mine.

And while there are some who do continually attempt to cast ALL Muslims as our planet's super villains, knowledgeable folks know that MOST Muslims are merely talking the talk; apostates--like you--who have rationalized their personal failure to comply with Muham...er...Allah's every word (as abrogated), and that it is the jihadist's--true Muslims who walk the walk--who are our world's true villains, and that people like you, dear, though obnoxious, are merely their enablers.

Gravenimage:
"If some Muslim nations and groups are finally responding to the crisis in Haiti, I'm glad to see it."

Muslims nations responded immediately. You are just hearing about it now.

Hugh:
"And whenever disaster strikes -- in Aceh, say, from the tsunami, or Pakistan, from an earthquake, the Saudis and other rich Muslims do not shake even the change from their pocket."

Muslims countries gave far more than the US did in response to the tsunami:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24424956/Tsunami-Aid

People are really blinkered to what's going on and how it's manipulated by the MSM.

Expect this headline soon: Many millions of lives saves as moslems decline to riot.

it's embarrassing to have to explain to family and friends WHY this kind of smoke and mirrors BS isn't acceptable.

Gymgal, regarding the CNN banner, a few days ago someone said to me "But they're just trying to be fair by showing the positive side of islam."

I wish I were kidding.

This is all rather transparent as its been pointed out how selfish Muslims are when it comes to helping non-Muslims while always having their hands out for charity from infidels whenever disaster strikes.This is also a reaction to the prominent role Israel has played in rescuing and treating suffering Haitian. This list Sheila posted is from Zogby's Arab American Institute and was posted by him to "showcase" the efforts of Arab nations in Haiti, since the efforts of these nations were not being "covered in the US media". So this is just another pr stunt by Muslims and Arabs rather then showing real concern for the suffering people of Haiti.Bill O'Reilly noted the pitiful donations to Haiti by Saudi Arabia and Iran while the hated "great Satan" is always first to help.

Did the US Embassy also note that Israel was operating the only working hospital in Haiti at one point?

A Muslim apologist poster above writes:

"Muslims countries gave far more than the US did in response to the tsunami:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24424956/Tsunami-Aid"

I read every word of his little paper. Nowhere does he show thyat "Muslim countries gave far more than the US did." In fact, the main thing he shows is that Saudi Arabia gave only about 10% ($34 million) of what Robert Spencer had initially ascribed to it ($300 million). The rest of his report is about something else: what he thinks, on a per capita basis, ought to be given. So he takes the tininess of the populations of the fabulously rich sheikdoms, and through various kinds of illogical folderol concludes that they have been far more generous. Well, if the U.A.E. has only a few hundred thousand people, then the amazing thing about it is not just how "generous" these people have been, but how fabulously, unbelievably, rich they are -- with $800 billion in their surplus. Any citizen of Abu Dhabi, by the way, who marries any other Abu Dhabi citizen, is guaranteed something like one million dollars, as an initial package to start life with, with much more in guaranteed benefits and income to come. And all of this, let "dave742" be reminded, all the more than twelve trillion dollars these "generous" (by his absurd calculations) states have taken in since 1973 alone, has been the result not of hard work or of anything at all, really, on the part of the people, but only the result of what happens to lie beneath the sand of their countries. Greater wealth, for less effort, than at any time, at any place, in human history -- and he dares to tell us how "generous" they are.

Here's what to do in the future: no Infidel aid, no economic aid, no military aid, no access to Infidel education or medical care. Let the Muslim lands be on their own. And they, in turn, should not be expected to do anything for us -- after all, they don't, in any case.

Let's leave it at that. For now.

1.2 billion Mohammedans gave less than .1% as much as 350 million Americans. That's 1 penny for every thousand dollars America gave. Proportionally, that's one Mohammedan penny for every American $34,000.

The numbers are in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dup_O3HIz7w

Since I am only interested in the truth, despite the vicious defamation, lies and hostility that she and others at that site have directed at me...

When he started with his study of first religion and then Islam and then Arabic in Chapel Hill, Spencer was probably a bit idealistic, like most of us at that stage.

But as the situation became clear what he was dealing with, he was confronted with a decision: dither or tell the Truth. My guess is, he took a deep breath when he chose the latter.

*** Bukhari Vol 2 Bk 24 Nbr 555 ***

Never have I seen a man take more beatings for doing good. He has a tiger by the tail, a that's a Bengal Tiger.

*** 5:101

As do we all, like it or not. God help us all.

This is from an old post I made here, but still one of my favorites:

The Marquis de Clermont-Tonnerre declared in the late 16th century that all Jews swearing an oath of loyalty to France should be granted citizenship. He further defined his stance with these famous words: "The Jews must be refused everything as a separate nation, & be granted everything as individuals."

Just exchange the word "Jews" for "Muslims", see? Then change the words Muslim, Irish (& proud!), German, Chinese, French, Russian, ad infinitum - including all imigrants to the USA...

But use the unifying word - AMERICANS.

Sheila Musaji concludes:
“It is now obvious that Muslims are becoming more aware of the importance of such relief efforts……We hope that this trend will continue and blossom, Allah willing”
So after 1400 years muslims are finally “are becoming more aware “ I s it because they are slow or because their terrorisms manual was so vague about basic human charity?
“We hope that this trend will continue and blossom, Allah willing“, you aint kidding Sheila, The World waits and hopes even more so, but since it has taken so long, muslims must be held back by as of yet an unrecognized force.
As for Sheikh `Abdel-Khaliq Hasan Ash-Shareef, “ a renowned Azharite scholar” when did he escape from the coo coos nest, he can spit off more fatwa’s under one breath than Sasha Gabor could spew out I lav ya dalings.

my guess is that at least some of the money given to Haiti by muslim countries will go towards building mosques and madrassas. These people never do something for nothing.Watch this space!

Hugh:
Calculating aid as a percentage of GDP is standard. This is how the Millennium Goals have been structured for decades. If you cannot understand that the amount of people contributing to the total aid package of a country is a critical factor, along with the wealth of those people, then you are incapable of rational thought.
If you as an individual give $200 to charity this year, and me along with 20 of my friends give, as a group, $250, who is more generous? If Bill Gates gives $100 to Haiti, and a homeless person gives $10, who is more generous? If you don't know the correct answer to these questions, please move along.
You bring up the wealth of the people in some oil-rich countries. This is accounted for is calculating aid as a percentage of GDP. Think, please.

"Only in cases where the charity, if directed at non-Muslims, will help the image, and thus the cause, of Islam is such charity allowed."

I was wondering when and how jwatch would manage to turn Haiti into a Muslim-bashing hate fest.

What took you so long?

When Muslims dont help. they're evil Muslims

When Muslims help, they're evil Muslims.

Sheila M. actually left out Life for Relief and Development in Michigan, which is the Islamic charitable organization that I usually donate through.

It is rather amusing, if not perverse, to watch an organization like Jihad Watch cast aspersions on Muslims who are assisting relief efforts in Haiti. I wonder how much Jihad Watch has donated or how many folks it has on the ground in Haiti. And let's not forget that JW has apparently adopted the stand that poor unfortunate people who are Muslim should not receive aid from non-Muslims, if I have correctly followed Mr. Fitzgerald's musings on the subject.

The real test is not how many people give how much, but what do those people possess. The inhabitants of Kuwait, Qatar, the U.A.E., Oman, Libya, and even Saudi Arabia (which has a larger population than the others) receive such vast sums, all for no effort whatsoever, that they should be thought of as akin to Bill Gates, and their charitable contributions judged accordingly.

Hugh:
Once again, the relative wealth of nations is accounted for when comparing aid as a percentage of GDP.

An interesting thing happened on another thread:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/01/another-honor-killing-in-modern-moderate-jordan.html

I brought up murder totals for Jordan and the US, and I was told that you have to look at murder rates, not murder totals, when you make comparisons. I was not trying to make a direct comparison with murder totals, and I clarified my point by speaking in terms of murder rates. The funny thing is that when the size of the country works against the US, like when comparing the number of murders in different countries, then JW readers are able to grasp the concept of per capita rates. When the size of the country works in favor of the US, like when comparing humanitarian aid, then only totals should be used, and the size of the country does not matter. How funny.

mp11, fairfarsant
you would be right to call it cynicism but since you did not refute the specifics, once again you come off as zombies, brainwashed followers of a megalomaniac invader who could not use reason alone to win souls but could only do it with brute force, the sword.
I do yield credit for the attempt at damage control islam is doing with this act of propaganda. Yes some gullible people will forget the other islamic acts of unselfishness , 911 etc..

As may be seen from my frequent posts over the last few years, I'm totally onside with the philosophy and beliefs of this and other anti-jihad blogs; islam is the greatest threat to freedom and democracy the world has ever faced, and every effort must be made to thwart its insidious intents.
Still, I believe in fairness and even-handedness in journalism, and am sad to report that I haven't yet seen a single mention of the immediate, extensive and continuing aid proffered by Cuba and Venezuela in our North American media.
Sadly, our fifth estate persists in predicating its journalism not upon accurate and dispassionate research, but rather upon the litmus of whose ox is at the moment being gored.