Here is yet another manifestation of the evasion of responsibility that we have seen here so many times over the years -- indeed, it is typical of the Islamic supremacist response to any jihad crime Muslims commit: it is always the Infidel's fault.
We have seen Imam Musa before also. He is the character who has declared his desire to establish an "Islamic States of America" by 2050.
"Washington DC Imam Abdul Alim Musa: Attempted Christmas Day Plane Bombing - the Work of US Government and the Mossad," from MEMRI TV, January 5 (thanks to Dave):
Following are excerpts from a TV debate with Abdul Alim Musa, Imam of the Islam Mosque, Washington DC, and George Mason University professor Jack Goldstone. The debate aired on Press TV on January 5, 2010.Interviewer: Imam, I guess this is something that most people didn't expect to hear on Christmas Day.
[...]Abdul Alim Musa: Right. I am just going to go straight to the point. If you go back for the last 20 years, from the first World Trade Center bombing in '93... This is our view, from those who... We said it then, and we say it now, and this is the belief in the Muslim world: 90% of the bombing plots - or this plot or that plot - we believe is done by and with the help and the aid of Mossad, and the United States government. This is our experience.
We believe that whoever this guy is from Nigeria - we don't believe he has any ties with Islam. If you talk about the World Trade Center bombing - all of these things are done... I can give you two quick reasons, and it will solve the problem. Number one - to blame these things on Muslims. You get the Patriot Act, you get the anti-terrorism bill, you get a right to what they call stop, put a freeze, on the global Islamic movement, which has been spreading, growing, and developing. You get a chance to launch missiles, to kill, and to put a freeze on the Islamic movement. But the Islamic movement is only the first target.The second target is the American people, because as you see, you have a systematic crash of the economy in America, headed downhill. Eventually, it affects everybody. Eventually, it affects the general American people. They want to have all the guns, and they want to have terrorism acts, they want to have everything - not for the Muslims - because we are a small minority - but for the American people - who do not put up with high taxes, and starving to death...
Interviewer: Wait a second, did you say that America may have played a role in this?
Abdul Alim Musa: No, we said they definitely did.
Interviewer: Definitely played a role?
Abdul Alim Musa: Yes, definitely. This is our belief. We've said this. We have... I didn't bring them all... We have "CIA Patterns of Deception," "Zionist Control of Media," "Babylon the Great" - these are years old - "Bush the Unifier"... Our belief has always been, since 1993, and we've done TV programs on it - that the United States government... Who do you talk about? You talk about Al-Qaeda. Where did Al-Qaeda come from? Al-Qaeda, Bin Laden, and all that - those are US friends.
Interviewer: But why would the US do this to its own people?
Abdul Alim Musa: In order to control them.....
Rave on, Abdul!
Wow. Hopefully the CIA boys are watching this guy.
Who's the woman in the headscarf? Are we now hiring headscarfed women to do host American TV shows?
Is Imam Abdul Alim Musa the chieftan of the mosque in which, on 9/12, Prez Dubya laid down his magic flying carpet and proned himself to Allah along with dozens of other Moslems who were supposedly grief stricken over the 9/11 "tragedy"?
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Or was that another esteemed DC mosque? There are so many there now.
Very soon, this guy will be screaming, a la the crazed Colonel Jessep in A Few Good Men, "You can't handle the truth!"
What a moron.
This twisted logic is not only held by Islamic supremacists,
but by your everyday Muslim as well.The same old tired juvenile reasoning.
I think I saw this guy haranguing passersby in Times Square the other day, but I just ignored him and held tight to my wallet as I hurried past.
What's most shocking here are the two dumbed down ineffectual dhimmi cretins in the studio listening to this psychotic whacko instead of calling the funny farm pronto.
This guy is incoherent.
It's easy to grow accustomed to the constant lying. But the nonsensical ramblings and ravings are always a bit surprising.
I suppose I really shouldn't be surprised. They are, after all, irrational people. And that irrationality has to show somehow, sometime.
Rather frightening though, how deep it goes.
The worst part is that one knows that there will be no reasoning with such a person. It must inevitably come to a contest of physical force.
We really MUST get our idiot PC-appeasement elites out of positions of power and replace them with people who will face and deal with the reality.
The point is: The guy's a "religious" leader.
He has a pulpit; his followers obviously like what he has to say.
Muhammadans, let's face it, are beyond reason.
What a joke.
I can't stand listening to people like him....makes my brain hurt.
Is he really nuts enough to believe that we buy this crap?
Yeah, some mad black American guy who converted to islam [and ignores how blacks are regarded in islam] tells the world who is connected to islam....right.
I turned off the POS...The other guy is equally idiotic with his 'religion of peace' remark...But it does show just how scrambled the Islamic mind really is...
I agree, who are the interviewers, and why is the woman wearing that headscarf? Even aside from the evidence it provides that she is a misguided Leftist useful idiot who thinks that she is somehow showing "respect" to the imam, the thing is just downright ugly, both symbolically and in a fashion sense.
The interviewer is a limp dick and completely clueless. He seems unable to grasp the enormity of this.
As for Abdul Alim Musa, he is a complete lunatic and beyond reason. But why offer headbangers like him a forum? The only way to deal with guys like this is with a baseball bat. Or a permanent lockup in an asylum.
The real danger is that clowns like Musa can seriously twist and bend the minds of young people, who then commit Islamically mandated hate crimes and acts of terrorism.
That needs to be stopped.
is this guy a escapee from the funny farm or is he just paranoid with a realy bad case of narcissism ??
Here's a joke for Musa the Loser:
A muslim goes heaven.
Abraham dies and goes to heaven where he meets St. Peter at the gates. St. Peter welcomes him to heaven but Abraham who is a muslim seems to be to frantic to care and says to St. Peter "I need to find Mohammed!" So St. Peter sends him up one floor.
When Abraham reaches the second floor he is slightly out of breath when he sees the angel Gabriel and tells him again he needs to find Mohammed so Gabriel tells him again to go up a floor. At this point he is thinking to himself "wow Mohammed is more important than St. Peter and the angel Gabriel. When he gets to the third floor he sees Jesus and asks him very out of breath. "Mohammed! I need to see Mohammed!" so Jesus tells him "Go up one floor my friend"
So Aberaham is struggling up the flight of stairs when he thinks to himself again "wow he's even more important than Jesus" When he reaches the next floor he sees a man with a long white beard and realises it's God. God sees that Abraham is extremley out of breath and asks him "would you like a coffee?" Abraham is frustrated and says " No i just want to find Mohammed!". God tells him "Yes you will but please rest ." Abraham agrees to have a coffee with God. God is happy that Abraham has accepted and calls out "Mohammed ... 2 coffees."
is this guy a escapee from the funny farm or is he just paranoid with a realy bad case of narcissism ??
Heh...good one. Now we know what "Slave of Allah" really means. LOL.
Just more proof, as if any were needed, that being Muslim makes it very likely that you inhabit an alternative universe. Islam corrupts the brain. Reasonable minds can disagree as to exactly why but to argue that Islam does not corrupt the thinking processes is no longer a tenable position.
This idiocy reminded me of a great article about another case of islamic refusal to face reality: EgyptAir 990. This piece was written in 2001, but fits the delusional blame-avoidance pattern perfectly. plus c'est la change...
Sorry to jump in like this, but what's the best way to reach Robert to discuss a possible radio interview? I'm a friend of Doug Urbanski's, and host a national show (orthodox Catholic content). Please PM me with contact info.
Thanks!
Patrick
Patrick:
You might try director@jihadwatch.org
Thank GOD Muslims are morons. It should help with the ongoing mission of educating the non-Muslim world about the dangers inherent in Islamic source material and those that follow them.
How do these half-wits get media time? The babbling fool can barely string a sentence together (a trait remarkably widespread in troofers).
I'm sorry, this is a bit off tiopic ....
"Wahhabis have purchased a large tract of land inside the Bosnian Serb Republic and have issued warnings to local ethnic Croatians that they plan to build another Wahhabi base on their property.
Wahhabis claim that they have purchased 400 dunums of land near the city of Derventa and aim to get more to build a base which they claim will be for hunting."
Another Islmaic "hunting lodge".
The only difference between Serbs, the Balkans and the west is ... geography, and time.
We need to completely realign American foreign policy. Away from the empty promise of democracy, and Islamic reformation in Bosnia, Albania, and Turkey. Time to build the wall, both intellectually and physically. We have given the Islamic world their choice, they have made it.
http://serbianna.com/news/?p=3785
Too funny.
A couple of posts down, someone posted a link to a youtube video of some Indian amateur -- but gifted! -- doing standup comedy on another crazed imam.
That may yet be our most potent weapon against mouth-breathing Islamaniacs.
Ridicule :)
So now i know through this sage that it was the US that was behind all the muslim invasions in the Peninsula Iberica , now Spain and Portugal, then the christian kingdoms.Well thanks for the information.
Now i am going to pass you another one equally interesting: when Cortes went into Mexico, then the Aztec land, teh first thing they did was to go straight to their idolatries and fake religions and tore them down.The battles were directed by the Cross and then the sword and whatever.
Maybe it is time for the US and the rest of the civilized world to learn from hystory and settle the terms of the battle first.
You may find out more about Imam Abdul Alim Musa (ne Clarence Reams) at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Alim_Musa. He's another criminal who converted to Islam while in prison.
The Muslim community in DC is not interested in routing out these creeps.
You may find out more about Imam Abdul Alim Musa (ne Clarence Reams) at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Alim_Musa. He's another criminal who converted to Islam while in prison.
The Muslim community in DC is not interested in routing out these creeps.
MUSA- an X-drug dealer; Jewphobic; psychopath is given the platform by some media nuts. I don't like that lady bowing to the Sharia threats. It SUCKS!!!!!! I almost vomitted when the guy interviewing him spews out "Islam is Peace".. what a piece of scheiss...
This particular loon doesn't bother me overly much. He's clearly a glommed-onto-Islam-to-fight-whitey type. At one point he forgets who is is, claiming do "we" fight against the South Africans? And he even lumps Mossad in among the native American treaty breakers:)
No, the worrisome part is the hyper-respectful attitude of the two interviewers. They seemed chained into fearful PC submission. They sit ramrod-straight with polite smiles, clasping their hands in abject respect, TERRIFIED tto say or do anything that will label them Islamophobic.
It would be funny if it was not so tragic. Here we have 2 Americans (presumably) scared to death to say anything to a "religious" Muslim American who is essentially spouting treason. Can you imagine the way they would react to a Lutheran minister spouting similar crap about the government, CIA, and Mossad? They would cut his logic to ribbons, shout him down, and probably call for the nice men in white coats. Ah the PC West.
What a dumbass, my question is doe he really believe it or is he lying?
Maybe both at the same time
Patrick Coffin - I thought you are a Muslum, and you want to interview Robert? Have you changed your religion?
Robert - please take care about the interview arrangements here if you were to go ahead.
He sounds every bit like that barbaric halfwit Abdullah Mikhail who is now polluting Frontpagemag with his lies and obfuscations, after being kicked off these boards.
It's real easy to tell when an islime is lying..... any time its mouth is moving....and this one just proves it over again. Does anyone out there think 1/10000 of the people in this nation would believe these isslimy barbarians
Hey, it's PressTV.
What do you expect?
The interviewers are just depressing. Where were the hoots of laughter and the John Mcenroe style "You CANNOT be serious"?
And the obvious response to the ludicrous comment: "The American history is a history of robbing and stealing and setting up people in order to get what they want" should have been that Muslim history is a history of violence and warfare and land grabbing and intolerance and oppressing people in order to get what they want.
There is being polite, and there is being stupid.
I've got to stop reading Jihad Watch on my lunch break while I'm eating.
Too much of my meal tries to come out my nose when I get to laughing at stuff like this and the responses from the Jihad Watch staff & the rest of the Infidels who post here. :)
Blaming the Jews for Islamic terror? This guy is a racist and a terrorist. He should be promptly sent to a Islamic country of his choice. We love freedom of speech, but hate is not welcome here.
Boy, Mossad must be busy, pulling off 9/11, the Madrid train bombings, 7/7, Flight 253, endless attacks on markets and volleyball games all over the Muslim world...
Seriously, this idiot started out as a drug dealer here in Oakland. He became enamored with Islam—where else?—in prison, like so many other losers.
So, from the above one might come away with the idea that Musa is against terrorism. Nothing could be further from the truth:
In the early 1990s, Musa founded the As-Sabiqun movement in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
As stated on As Sabiqun's website, "The paramount goal of the movement is the establishment of Islam as a complete way of life in America . . .
According to the "As-Sabiqun Resolution" published on the group's website, As-Sabiqun embraces a global vision of Islamic revolution and world domination:
We resolve to work with other communities (movements), whether they are local, national, or international, toward the end of harnessing the power of Muslims and their resources for the purpose of reestablishing the system of governance known as Khilafah, or the Caliphate, patterned after the leadership exemplified by Prophet Muhammad (saw). We resolve to utilize all the tools of Islam to develop an analysis and plan of action to totally and completely obliterate the hold of jahiliyyah and enable Islam to take complete control of our lives, and ultimately, the lives of all human beings on Earth.
The As-Sibiqun newsletter article titled "To Do List 2007" also emphasized the role that jihad should play in this struggle:
Always cherish the intention of jihād and the desire for martyrdom in the way of Allah and actually prepare yourself for that.
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Jihad? "Martyrdom"? Sounds like—well—Abdulmutallab and the attack on Flight 253...
http://www.investigativeproject.org/profile/170
That would be cool, Whats the radio frequency, and I hope its shortwave. stir it up globally..
Also I wonder Why is the host wearing a hijab?? I hope its not to appease this clown..Its shamefull..tisk tisk.
Typical, always blaming others for their own transgressions, no wonder their god is so cruel and harsh towards them. Since they never do anything wrong, why do they need the Quran and Muhammad to show them the right path? They are already on it and everyone else is going to hell.
Thank God for His grace, the cross, and the blood of Christ that cover our sins. "For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from youeselves, it is the gift of God, not by works so that no ne can boast."
It's time all the Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Dhimmis etc. unite and rise up against all Muslims not matter where they are from, no matter who they are and no matter where they were born.
Let's wage our own Jihad against all Muslims around the world and convert them by the gun.
If we don't start now, we're in for a very rude awakening from which we may not be able to get out of. START NOW MY FRIENDS.... RISE UP AGAINST THESE DAMNED MUSLIMS
Hmmm.
From the article - "Interviewer: But why would the US do this to its own people?
Abdul Alim Musa: In order to control them".
In that final 'answer' Abdul Alim Musa sounds a whole lot like our late unlamented Mohammedtroll or Dementor, 'loveverybody'/45ch/ etc. etc. Funny, that.
One might make a further observation. Musa's answer, if considered as a typical example of Mohammedan psychological projection, tells us a whole lot about the art of governance (if one could call it that) as practised in dar al Islam.
Perhap Musa presents this lie as a distraction, or 'explanation', because he thinks it believable- he assumes that American non-Muslims would take it for granted that their leaders would lie to them both by words and deeds, 'in order to control them'...because he takes it for granted that his *own* rulers (in dar al Islam) do exactly that; and indeed, that he himself, if in a position of power, would do exactly that.
I noticed that Musa was saying that the Jews were fanatically still pursuing "German old men" even if they by now were in wheelchairs. While the Muslims no longer quarrelled with their enemies of old, as if they behaved better in this way than the Jews. But of course the Israeli's are by now at very fine terms with the German people and only pursue justice with known murderers, not all Germans vindictively as Musa was suggesting.
Such is the twisting of the truth that some Muslim cleric leaders are spewing all the time in their mosques, on tv etc, brainwashing their followers and gullible people.
I noticed that Musa was saying that the Jews were fanatically still pursuing "German old men" even if they by now were in wheelchairs. While the Muslims no longer quarrelled with their enemies of old, as if they behaved better in this way than the Jews. But of course the Israeli's are by now at very fine terms with the German people and only pursue justice with known murderers, not all Germans vindictively as Musa was suggesting.
Such is the twisting of the truth that some Muslim cleric leaders are spewing all the time in their mosques, on tv etc, brainwashing their followers and gullible people.
I noticed that Musa was saying that the Jews were fanatically still pursuing "German old men" even if they by now were in wheelchairs. While the Muslims no longer quarrelled with their enemies of old, as if they behaved better in this way than the Jews. But of course the Israeli's are by now at very fine terms with the German people and only pursue justice with known murderers, not all Germans vindictively as Musa was suggesting.
Such is the twisting of the truth that some Muslim cleric leaders are spewing all the time in their mosques, on tv etc, brainwashing their followers and gullible people.
I noticed that Musa was saying that the Jews were fanatically still pursuing "German old men" even if they by now were in wheelchairs. While the Muslims no longer quarrelled with their enemies of old, as if they behaved better in this way than the Jews. But of course the Israeli's are by now at very fine terms with the German people and only pursue justice with known murderers, not all Germans vindictively as Musa was suggesting.
Such is the twisting of the truth that some Muslim cleric leaders are spewing all the time in their mosques, on tv etc, brainwashing their followers and gullible people.