Mosab Hassan Yousef is the son of Sheikh Hassan Yousef, a West Bank Hamas leader. Mosab Hassan Yousef is a convert to Christianity. In this interview he speaks about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict as not being one over land, but over Islamic doctrine, which is intransigent and can never allow for the existence of an Infidel polity, much less a Jewish State, on what Muslims consider to be Islamic land. He speaks about the problem being rooted in the Qur'an.
This is what we have said here many, many times, and so it should come as no surprise to longtime Jihad Watch readers, or to anyone who is fully informed about the motives and goals and beliefs of the jihadis. But it will come as a total surprise to the learned analysts who dominate the discourse in Washington, and they will dismiss it out of hand. "Israel's spy in Hamas (Part II)," by Avi Issacharoff for Haaretz, February 26 (thanks to Mladen Andrijasevic):
[...] "Many people think the terrorists' motivation is the Israeli occupation, the corruption, but all that is just the backdrop. It is not the root of the problem. The occupation is like the rain that falls on the soil in which the seed has been planted, but it is not the seed itself. The root of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict does not lie in security or politics: It is a war between two gods, two religions. Between the God of the Torah and the God of the Koran. The Koran teaches that this is Waqf land - a sacred endowment which must not be given up. The Torah taught the Jews that this is their land and must not be given up."It follows that there will be no peace in the Middle East. Israel's problem is not with Hamas or with any other organization, nor with the interpretation Hamas reads into the Koran. It is with the god of the Koran. After all, even a moderate Muslim who reads the Koran must read that the Jews are the sons of apes and that the infidels must be killed. The Palestinians must stop blaming Israel, or the West, for all their problems. If they want true freedom, they must free themselves from their God."
You sound completely pessimistic. What about a Palestinian state?
"That is not a solution. Today we do not have a leadership worthy of ruling, not Hamas and not Fatah. The Palestinians move between the corrupt leadership of Fatah, and the Hamas leadership, which sends them all to die. Besides, Hamas cannot make peace with the Israelis. That is against what their God tells them. It is impossible to make peace with infidels, only a cease-fire, and no one knows that better than I.
"The Hamas leadership is responsible for the killing of Palestinians, not Israelis. Palestinians! They do not hesitate to massacre people in a mosque or to throw people from the 15th or 17th floor of a building, as they did during the coup in Gaza. The Israelis would never do such things. I tell you with certainty that the Israelis care about the Palestinians far more than the Hamas or Fatah leadership does. Israel withdrew from Gaza, and instead of the place being built up and cultivated, look what happened there. We need to take a break from these leaders. And I call on the government of Israel: Never accede to Hamas demands, not even about Gilad Shalit. They will not hurt him - he is too important to them. Even if it goes on for 10 years, Israel must not give in and release all those people from prison."
You sound completely pessimistic. What about a Palestinian state?
Read: (sticks fingers in ears).
"No! I don't hear that! LA LA LA LAAA! You are mean! If you'd just be nice everything would be OK!!! I hate you and all you mean conservative fascists!!!"
- standard PC/MC response to (gasp) a little thing called objective truth.
I love Mosab Hassan Yousef.
Have known about him for sometime. Whenever I wander towards despair, I recall this incredible lamed-vavnik.
God, there have to be many other Mosab Hassan Yousefs!!!
"Islam is the only religion which is more obsessed with unbelievers than it is with its own followers. Muslims define their own identity solely in opposition to the Kuffar. Islamic accomplishments are so negligible that they have no positive cultural features with which they can identify. Hence the unceasing and implacable aggression toward civilized peoples and envy of their accomplishments. The development and deliberate cultivation of hatred is such a central feature of Islam that there is nothing that we Kuffars can do, or not do, that would make our univited guests hate us any less or any more.
Rage is so intrinsic to Islam that external events are irrelevant. Hatred of non-Moslems is the pivot of Islamic existence. Muslims are bound together by a shared and carefully nurtured animosity to 'The Other' developed from earliest childhood, which ignites a permanent fire of tension between Moslems and non-Moslems. Ever since Jihadists started immigrating into the West, we have become all too familiar with concepts such as 'Killing the unbelievers wherever you find them' and the tribal polarities of Dar al-Harb versus Dar al-Islam , Ummah versus Kuffar etc.
Very little of the Koran is devoted to how to be a Muslim, the religion of Islam. Instead, the majority of the Koran is about kafirs, non-Muslims. Kafirs are the worst of the creation. Allah hates kafirs and plots against them. Kafirs can be tortured, murdered, robbed, raped and enslaved. The Koran is fixated on kafirs, as was Mohammed."
- http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/islam-terrorism.html
"The root of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict does not lie in security or politics: It is a war between two gods, two religions. Between the God of the Torah and the God of the Koran." -- headline
True. Another way of putting it, is that it's a war between good and evil. Hmm, which one is evil, I don't know? ...kidding!
The god of the koran, allah, most certainly is the EVIL one.
"You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?"
Matthew 7:16
Genesis 16:12 (New International Version)
12 He (ISHMAEL) will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone's hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward [a] all his brothers."
How long until mainstream American Jewish organizations tell him to tone down his message, that their mission includes interfaith dialogue, and that they are officially committed to the two-state solution? "My gosh, he sounds Islamophobic and we can't be associated with someone like that!"
Do you think that the Jewish newspapers and JTA will even cover this important interview or will they continue to do PR for J-Street and the Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood-linked organizations with whom they are "engaged in dialogue?"
I'm sure Pres. Obama could inform him that while he condemns the violence, Hamas has "legitimate grievances."
Funny how Mosab Yousef comes to the same conclusions that this website has regarding Islam and the nature of "the conflict."
Steven Coughlin had it right at FDI when he said--and I am paraphrasing--even if I am wrong in my interpretation of Islamic law, then I am wrong in the same way that the terrorists are wrong.
He (Steven Coughlin) could have added that he (and Jihad Watch and the apostates) are also wrong in the same way that the IOC is wrong, that "tolerant" Al-Ahzar University is wrong, that our "ally" Karzai is wrong, that "moderate" Fatah is wrong, that just about every "mainstream" American Muslim organization is wrong, that our "secular friends" in Jordan and Egypt are wrong.
What I am saying is that if Coughlin has it wrong, then mainstream, traditional, Sunni Islam has it wrong. And of course, Coughlin was spot on in his analysis.
His talk about abrogation, the Islamic position on slander and the U.S. government and media's devotion to the post-modern narrative over the truth...and how all this works in favor of an enemy that can't win on the battlefield is brilliant.
I advise anyone who hasn't seen it to watch his presentation from the FDI event at CPAC on YouTube. I've listened to it about six or seven times. It is that good and that important! Link below:
http://64.15.120.233/watch?v=Ty0xe8OyPjY
"That is not a solution. Today we do not have a leadership worthy of ruling, not Hamas and not Fatah."
It's certainly not a solution, but definitely a step in the right direction. I believe the Palestinian people themselves would prefer peace and security over Hamas. They haven't had it good though, with the corrupt government of Fatah in the past and now the violent one of Hamas.
Where do Palestinian people go when they're sick? To preferable Israeli hospitals (if they can get there). Where did they go when Hamas took over Palestine? Many were running across the border into Israel. These are two of many examples of Palestinians enlisting Israeli security over their so called "friends" Hamas. Even though many Palestinians would like to see Palestine triumph over Israel, this cause is not number 1 on their list. I believe many would accept a two state solution in return for peace.
"The Palestinians move between the corrupt leadership of Fatah, and the Hamas leadership, which sends them all to die..."
Well, there choices were certainly limited. From what I remember Hamas promised to rid Palestine of corruption--and on that note alone many were persuaded to vote for them. Unfortunately they were given a false sense of hope when Hamas started executing anybody who so called "collaborated" with Israel.
4infidels,
I agree, Coughlin's speech at CPAC was awesome. I thought the best part was his talk about the concept of abrogation. Its always a good talking point to bring up in debating a Muslim about Radical Islam, as they tend to leave this concept out. However, some of my friends in the back told me most of his presentation was a little above their heads, but eye-opening at that.
MusalMan,
Your comment completely eliminated the Islam angle and is contrary to Mosab Hassan Yousef's position. Was that intentional?
Truer words have never been spoken than these uttered by Mosan Hassan Yousef. There will be no peace in the Middle East as long as the overwhelming number of Arabs continue to cling to a religion which enslaves the mind, warps the spirit and makes hate, not love, life's guiding principle. Again we can see that reforming Islam is not the route to take. Getting rid of it is. And sadly, this isn't going to happen in the Middle East for a very long time to come, if ever. And so, nothing is going to change, no matter how many leaders and policy makers in Western countries think and plan otherwise.
awake,
Yousef said that a Palestinian state is not a solution. I agree to a certain degree, see above.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by eliminating the "Islam angle". I'll take a shot at answering it though: Of course the Palestinian-Israeli problem is rooted as a "war between two Gods." History and Islamic doctrine itself purport that very notion. However, I would assume that not every Palestinian views the conflict this way. Some cherish life and security a bit more than pleasing the Hamas charter and Allah. Maybe you can call these people "moderates?" If every Palestinian-or Muslim for that matter-where to view this conflict as a clash of religions, there would be a lot more to worry about.
Who needs Mosan Hassan Yousef, when we have the illustrious Justice Goldstone, President Emeritus Jimmy Carter, and lesser luminaries such as New York State's Congressional Representative Maurice Hinchey, all of whom are far better informed and more trustworthy? This past October, Hinchey, along with such honorable, erudite individuals as Keith Ellison, Dennis Kucinich, and Ron Paul (whose degree in medicine of course guarantees expertise about geopolitics in general, and Islamic doctrine in particular) voted against the House Resolution 867 to condemn the egregiously biased and despicable Goldstone Report.
As Hinchey is, sadly, my representative in Congress, I wrote to him upon learning of his vote, castigating him for doing so. Yesterday, after a long hiatus, I received a letter from him. Let me provide some excerpts, if I may.
"Few jurists in the world today have a record as impressive as Justice Goldstone..."
"I shared concerns that language in H. Res. 867 was excessively broad and inconsistent with our national commitment to human rights and the rule of law."
"Israel's military operations alone will not create the real safety and security that the people of Israel deserve. As a defender of Israel's right to exist and the inherent rights of all people and nations, I believe civilians on both sides of this conflict are paying the greatest price. We must find solutions that address Israel's security needs, provide relief to the people of Gaza, and create a climate more conducive to a successful peace process. Without such solutions, support for a peace process among both Israelis and Palestinians will suffer. (Bold face mine)
Yes, who needs Mosan Hassan Yousef to tell us what motivates Hamas, Fatah, and those Muslims who are held firmly in Islam's thrall, and who are ardent - even, maybe, not so ardent - believers, but who agree, at least, that Israel is an abomination, a polity whose existence cannot be tolerated - ever - for it is eternally part of Muslim Palestine; an Islamic waqf that Allah's most hated people, the Jews, have usurped, and polluted. To those who believe this, then the expulsion and death of these Jews is a collective religious obligation, in which all members of the umma must take part. The destruction of Israel is fard ayn. But Hinchey, and Goldstone, and Jimmy, et. al. turn a blind eye, and a deaf ear, to all of this.
And so, I guess, should the rest of us, because Hinchey, Jimmy, Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, et al. are our Leaders, unlike the kooky Mossan Hassan Yousef, who cannot possibly be right about this great Abrahamic religion, Islam, a faith that over one billion souls embrace all over the world, and that, to boot, is the religion that is growing faster than any other.
For Jews and Jew lovers...
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2010/02/a-very-well-written-article-hereabout-why-its-okay-to-goin-alone-not-waiting-forback-up.html
And Infidels of every color.
Great points and very well put.
"Instead, the majority of the Koran is about kafirs, non-Muslims."
And to think that our President refers to that evil text as "holy."
Only God is holy and Islam is an affront to God.
Even a moderate Muslim who reads the Koran must read that...
The idea of a Unicorn reading fascinates me.
*** 79:1 ***
Questions arise: How does he turn pages with his hoof? Does he have to cock his head to look at the book? He'd have to be seated to have use of his fore-hooves to hold the book, would his tail be crushed in the act?
*** 98:1 ***
It's gotta be tough. No wonder Moderate Moslems are so seldom seen in public. Hope they all don't appear as a big herd one day and stampede.
Moderate Unicorns
In medieval times, people created fairy tales and magical creatures to make sense of their world. One of the most endearing is the unicorn, a horse with a single horn that symbolized purity and wholesomeness. In our modern times, people in Europe and the United States consider themselves more sophisticated and rational than people from the Middle Ages, but we still create myths, albeit more subtle ones.
Daily we hear reports of violent acts committed by Islamic terrorists on every inhabited continent. We try to wish it away with the myth of the ‘Moderate Muslim’, telling ourselves the Islamic agenda has been’ hijacked’ by a ‘tiny minority of extremists’ and that soon the huge, silent, moderate majority of Muslims will take charge and change things. However, post 9/11 very few authoritative Muslims have condemned terrorist actions. We are still waiting for moderates to stand and deliver, identifying and removing extremist thugs from their mosques and their communities. Waiting for this self-correction is our modern version of unicorn hunting.
Moderate Muslims will not be able to wrest control of the agenda for several reasons. First of all, Mohammed, the Messenger of Allah’s eternal word, was not moderate. Since Mohammed is 'The Perfect Example for Men in all times and places', ( Qur'an 33.21), moderates have no legitimacy when admonishing other Muslims to stop the extremist acts Mohammed himself did. Also, the Qur’an condones violence and coercion to further the Islamic agenda. People whom we call moderates are labeled hypocrites by Allah Himself in the Qur’an. Moderates will always lose the argument because, as ex-Muslim author Ibn Warraq says, “There may be moderates in Islam but Islam itself is not moderate.”
Islamic expert Daniel Pipes and others estimate ten percent of the Islamic world to be militant. In 1933 when the Nazi party took control of Germany it had 2 million members, comprising only three percent of Germany’s sixty-six million citizens. A tiny minority of extremists can control a vast number of moderates, making them irrelevant.
Placing hope in ‘The Moderate Muslim’ is like searching for unicorns in the forest.
Zack Highstreet - A Plague on Both Houses
"...and Ron Paul (whose degree in medicine of course guarantees expertise about geopolitics in general, and Islamic doctrine in particular).."
Apparently even illiterate Fascists can be Gynaecologists but why the Texas Medical Board gave this redneck Hitlerite a Medical License is beyond me..US in general suffers from too much dilettantism-the false notion that an attorney is an intellectual and must not only be good at law but excels
in every other field beyond even the specialists. I am unalterably opposed to the American penchant for electing
lawyers presidents and cabinet members. I am unalterably opposed to giving Ambassadorships to well-connected lawyers who couldn't find China on a map if their life depended on it. Diplomacy should be in the hands of experts (e.g., John
Bolton) who have actual foreign affairs and linguistic experience (and I don't mean Obama's penchant for hiring
greenhorn ideological human rights, Think Tank or Peace Corps groupies with ideas for saving the world-are you listening you opportunistic imbecile Samantha Power ???).
Maybe in the past, when we had literate leaders (aka JFK, Roosevelt, etc) it made a difference but not today. Eisenhower, Reagan, Truman were not practicing lawyers but were decisive and influential POTUS. Now, lawyers think they are the intellecutal elite and they are most decidely not. Doctors have now followed in their footsteps and we have the nauseatingly arrogant Bill Frist who thankfully left the Senate. We have the imbecile Ron Paul. Senator and ex-Physician Tom Coburn, at least, is very honest though he
is too conservative for my tastes on some issues and is blatantly wrong on others. I noticed that some of the smartest (in both parties) members of Congress are the few scientists (there are three physicists and one chemist in Congress) who serve there and even once in a while you get a Senator who was a former political science or history major (shocking !!).
Hinchey and Kusinich are opportunists, their feigned neo-Leftist 'issue-oriented' style notwithstanding. They are no more altruistic than Machiavelli was. Though I often disagree with him, Russ Feingold at least does actually operate on altruism ~ 10 % of the time which is about 10 % more than most other Senators and Congressman.
I love the facetious comment above about how Obama and J-Street will condemn Mosab Yousef as being non-objective in favour of more 'objective' Leftwing Jews and their acolytes
in think tanks, law firms and the UN. That was right on target !
"Even a moderate Muslim who reads the Koran must read that the Jews are the sons of apes and that the infidels must be killed"
I would rather be the son of an Ape than the son of a Muslim !!!!
This is patently obvious since even the Quran would seem
to obliquely confirm that Jews descended from earlier
non-human primates more-or-less in line with current
palaeoanthropological theories about human evolution.
This to me, as a Jew, is reassuring ! Since the Quran
is silent on the subject of the evolutionary antecedents of Muslims, I can only assume that they were not AUSTRALOPITHECUS or HOMO HABILIS/ERECTUS, but rather some obscure line of insects or marine sponge. Ironically, the purported insult directed at Jews in the Quran is actually evolutionary confirmation that Jews do descend from the normal antecedents among primates in common with other Homo Sapiens, while Muslims' origins are highly suspicious if not unearthly even according to their own holy book. The fact that Muslims believe they are directed to kill offspring of rather normal evolutionary lines of development pretty much says all you need to know about Muslims...
"He speaks about the problem being rooted in the Qur'an."
Attorney General of the United States Eric Holder - are you LISTENING?
And, what's the General's name who said that worse then the 13 soldiers murdered at Ft. Hood would be the lack of "diversity" in the U.S. army? What's that idiot's name? Are you LISTENING, General PC Idiot?
"And to think that our President refers to that evil text as "holy."
Sir Knight - Hussein is a Muslim.
"Islamic accomplishments are so negligible that they have no positive cultural features with which they can identify."
Exactly. Have you read Oriana Fallaci's "The Rage and the Pride?" That's the thesis.
Moslems are nothing but parasites on the West - but, they can't admit that. After all, they are the "superior peoples," as their Con Man false prophet Warlord sociopath told them.
@Nakal
Ever wonder what happened to the neanderthals????
Try to imagine that this guy's mentality becomes the norm in the Middle East. The whole region would become open, tolerant, safe, prosperous and yes, a fun place to live. But this mental awareness would have to spread way beyond the confines of an intellectual elite. As impossible as that seems, what other answer is there? It's a matter of attitude, knowledge and enlightened self-interest.
As statistically insignificant as it may seem now, at least there seem to be more people who get it. In order to predominate, the simple common sense in this message needs more backing from those in authority, who unfortunately, are too often Truthophobic.
Moderate Muslims will not be able to wrest control of the agenda for several reasons.
No, they won't be able to wrest control because they don't exist.
*** 8:7 ***
This from a Mark Steyn essay several weeks ago:
This is not to say (to go wearily through the motions) that all Muslims are potential suicide bombers and axe murderers...
I'd gonna have to disagree with you here, Mark. Every Moslem has potential, that's why they think of themselves as potentates. And the ones who really rock to the Islamic beat call themselves Imams or Sheiks or even Ayatollahs.
All any Moslem has to do to realize his full potential as a Moslem is to activate, like Major Hasan did in Austin. They've all got the potential inside.
*** 9:91 ***
Less the old and infirm Moslems, of course. Allah said that.
"They must free themselves from their God."
Which means, they must realize that The Koran is imperfect, since nothing perfect came be transmitted through an imperfect -READ: human- medium.
The aggressive ignorance of ("scholastic" / dogmatic) Islam is that: they pretend that an imperfect man can convey a perfect message from the Divine perfectly.
That Mohammad was also illiterate only makes their belief that much more preposterous and inherently ludicrous.
Mo had no idea what his scribes were writing down, being unable to read it, and, also, "The Recitation" was only finally collected and organized after his death, when he had no opportunity to even aurally edit it.
Plus, as the Hadiths report, some suras were utterly lost ~because those followers who memorized them had died in battle or the scrap materials the suras were written down on (palm leaves, bark, etc.) had been lost, ~some even being eaten by a wandering goat.
The Koran was thus imperfect from the start.
Until they Muslims admit this, they cannot reform their faith or reassess their irrational God.
"Ever wonder what happened to the Neanderthals????"
They became Muslims.
Hahahah.
But I think that's rather insulting to the Neanderthals, since they were capable of artistry and music. More likely the musselmen are descended from Troglodytes.
Nakal: The Koran avers that the Jews actually devolved from men into apes, punishment from Allah for breaking the Sabbath (2:65). This is reiterated elsewhere, e.g. 5:60, where the reader learns that Jews were not only transformed into apes, but also swine. I recollect that some Koranic exegete, whose name escapes me but who is an individual of considerable prominence, believes that the Jews who were, at Allah's command, transformed into monkeys or apes, only lived a few days thereafter, as survival in their transformed state was not sustainable. This, however, would have prevented such individuals from having offspring. On the other hand, this deep-thinking exegete, in holding such a view, clashes with the mainstream, who hold that most/many/all Jews are, indeed, the offspring of simians. There is much here to digest, to ponder...one hopes that the representatives of the ulema from all over dar al-Islam will meet soon to hold an urgent meeting to come to some sort of agreement as to how to resolve this dilemma. I, for one, will be greatly relieved to learn that an accord could be reached on this vital issue. It's that pesky Jewish Problem again, the one that keeps cropping up in one guise or another. It's time it was laid to rest.
I appreciate Yankel's reference to the lamed vovnikim:
http://www.ralphmag.org/lamed.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzadikim_Nistarim
http://ohr.edu/yhiy/article.php/2442
I highly recommend Andre Schwartz Bart's Last of the Just as a great piece a literature worth your attention.
May there be more righteous and truthful people arising amidst all nations.
May there be many, many more Mosab Hassan Yousefs!
But, I sincerely doubt that he became a Christian because someone called him a simian or neanderthaler.
You may be right Darcy...
MusalMan wrote:
"That is not a solution. Today we do not have a leadership worthy of ruling, not Hamas and not Fatah."
It's certainly not a solution, but definitely a step in the right direction. I believe the Palestinian people themselves would prefer peace and security over Hamas. They haven't had it good though, with the corrupt government of Fatah in the past and now the violent one of Hamas...I believe many would accept a two state solution in return for peace.
"The Palestinians move between the corrupt leadership of Fatah, and the Hamas leadership, which sends them all to die..."
...................
I'm not sure I see how a "Palestinian" state would be a "step in the right direction" at all, MusalMan. It seems more likely it would serve as an ever more entrenched launching pad for violent attacks on Israel.
In addition, as bad as things are in the "West Bank", there is still at least some Israeli oversight. In Gaza, where Israel has no presence at all, Gaza is "Juderein", and its few Christians are even less secure than in the "West Bank". Hamas is creeping toward imposing full Shai'ah. I have no reason to think that the "West Bank" would be any better with the development of a full "Palestinian state".
I'm not sure what you base your belief that the Palestinians would "prefer peace sand security over Hamas". If that were so, why did the Gazans elect Hamas in the first place?
In addition, while you mention the often repeated trope that Hamas was voted in in Gaza merely in protest of Fatah corruption, I have never believed that. Hamas was not shy about their agenda calling for Israel's complete destruction—they represent the "fast Jihad" to Fatah's "slow Jihad".
And Hamas's reaction to Fatah, once they gained power in Gaza, was not to "root out corruption", but to brutally rout their Fatah rivals; defenestrating them, torturing them, following them in to hospitals in order to finish them off.
What this most reminded me of was accounts of Hitler's Night of the Long Knives, where one faction of Nazis destroyed their Brown Shirt rivals.
I'm not sure why you think any of these factions fit to run a sovereign nation.
I am not trying to give you a hard time, I assure you. Just some things to think about, especially in light of Mosab Hassan Yousef's words, above.
@Nakal
Ever wonder what happened to the neanderthals????
YANKELE...
I know what happened...ever notice why Ahamdinejad's
eyes are too close together, he has large orbital
promontories and a prognasthic jaw ?
To Commonsense:
Yes, but these apes would still have to evolve back
again to Homo sapiens in modern times. The Quran does NOT say that Jews will REMAIN apes in the future. So, we still have the moderately logical situation where Jews and apes
have some common lineage. Pigs are very intelligent
even if TREIF. Ever see a Muslim find a truffle underground ? I would rather be a pig...and as for Muhammad
whining about why Arabian Jews in Yathrib didn't keep
their own Sabbath. This just confirm the earlier observation
someone made above (very astute) that Muslims are far
more obssessive compulsive about what Kafirs do than they
are about WHAT THEY THEMSELVES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
This is the origin of the Muslim penchant for scapegoating
and Taqqiyah.
As for (see above) primate evolution. I notice very
very few contemporary Jews with simian physiognomy
whatever their Quranic relationship with apes. However,
quite a few Muslims (e.e.g, Ahmadinejad) and even non-Muslims (Hugo Chavez) display facial structures oddly reminiscent of Homo neanderthalensis if not Austalopithecus
dumbshitensis...
"JIHAD IS THE ISLAMIC ORGASM"
Whether it is 'slow' Jihad or
'fast' Jihad, the ultimate
goal is still a frenzy of
mass murder-the means to the
end matter far less than what
happens at the end. This is why
esoteric debates about which
faction of this or that Islamic
group is 'moderate' is a complete
waste of time. They are all compelled
to destroy and (if at all possible)
kill.
"But I think that's rather insulting to the Neanderthals, since they were capable of artistry and music. More likely the musselmen are descended from Troglodytes..."
I wrote to GEICO two weeks ago suggesting they change
their commercials a bit and develop a set of themes with Ahmadinejad acting like...Ahmadinejad...("So easy even a Muslim can do it.."). For example, Ahmadinejad excitedly waving a Quran and Persian dagger (with a dancing troupe
of monkeys in the background-i.e., Chimpanzee riverdance)
to some Bollywood or Persian soap opera-like tune playing in the distance. I received a reply (no surprise) that they were concerned that their insurance market share "might take a hit" if they aired such commercials in various
media markets.
Nakal, are you sure about Ackkkkk(clearing throat)madinejad being a neanderthal? I think he's too short.
from NAKAL - "Ever see a Muslim find a truffle underground ? "
Best laugh I've had all weekend......
Mosab is now off the hamas christmas card list
It all starts with the Mohammadans in the Bible. In Genesis 16:11-12 "Behold you are pregnant(Hagar) and shall bear a son. You shall call his name Ishmael, because the Lord has listened to your affliction. 12) He shall be a WILD DONKEY of a man, his hand againt EVERYONE and everyone's hand against him, and he shall dwell over against all his kinsmen."
God promised a child to Abraham and Sarah(Issac)God's will. Since this did not happen for a long time, Abraham and Sarah tried to help God out. They went to Hagar and asked her to bear a child. The child(Ishmael)was born OUT of God's will, thus the term WILD DONKEY. Being out of God's will--the Ishmaelites(modern day Muslims/Arabs/Mohammadans--continue to blow themselves up to kill infidels(non-believers of Allah(Jews & Christians---people of the book).
How many or should I say how often, do you see and hear of Jews or Christians, quitting their jobs, strapping bomb vests on and blowing themselves up to kill Muslims because they do not believe in Jesus Christ?
When the Lord Jesus Christ does come back, he will put the Ishmaelites(Muslims)who do not believe Christ died for the sins of the world---where they belong---Hell.
We know how the Bible ends---we WIN !
LouManati:
No, the Bible doesn't end with "we win". It wins with Christ winning. We can't draft the Messiah to our side, but must see to it that we are on his.
Many years ago I watched Rev. James L. Swagart on television say that as far as he could determine from reading the Koran that there had to be a "demon spirit" involved in it. At the time I laughed at this man who I considered to be just a rube. Now I think that he was right on.
Kepha:
I came to know the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, October 24th, 1998. ALL people who are "born-again"---truly born-again---WE DO WIN WITH CHRIST---how ever you want to put it....
Did not write the first comment to stir you or anyone else up...
Until The Nets Are Full(Math 4:19)
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would assume that not every Palestinian views the conflict this way. Some cherish life and security a bit more than pleasing the Hamas charter and Allah. Maybe you can call these people "moderates?" If every Palestinian-or Muslim for that matter-where to view this conflict as a clash of religions, there would be a lot more to worry about.
Until we realize that all Muslims hate Jews as well as Kuffar, we will be at a sore disadvantage in this asymmetrical war. The unavoidable sociological diversity of the 1.3 billion people which comprises all Muslims, where it is impractical for each and every one of that 1.3 billion to be a front-line soldier, should not distract us from the unique fanaticism of Islamic culture and psychology, unlike anything else any other culture today, and throughout history, has ever manifested.