And the world yawns, even as it teeters on the brink. "Iran's leader orders higher enrichment of uranium," by Nasser Karimi for the Associated Press, February 7 (thanks to Sr. Soph):
TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ordered his country's atomic agency on Sunday to begin the production of higher enriched uranium, a move that's likely to deepen international skepticism about the country's real intentions on the crucial issue of enriched uranium.Ahmadinejad's latest pronouncement on the issue of enriched uranium coincided with a call Sunday by U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates for the international community to rally together to pressure Iran into abandoning its nuclear program.
Speaking to reporters during a weeklong European tour, Gates said that "if the international community will stand together and bring pressure" on Iran, "I believe there is still time for sanctions to work."
This idiocy is astounding.
And the wheels of defense go round and round...
Talk is cheap and the Administration even gets an additional special discount.
Iran must be pretty confident that nothing will be done to announce what they are doing rather than doing so clandestinely.
West must act now and take off Iran off from its nuclear program. Limited nuclear strike against Iran should always be an option. Before raises its fangs crush it right now.
"Speaking to reporters during a weeklong European tour, Gates said that "if the international community will stand together and bring pressure" on Iran, "I believe there is still time for sanctions to work."
Gates probably still believes in the tooth fairy...
Any sensible person must have by now realised, it's not a question of if, but when.
A possible sequence of events:
1) The Iranians assemble an A bomb.
2) Israel launches a all out pre-emptive strike involving her Jericho III ICBMS (non nuclear HE tipped) and completely wipes out all Iranian nuclear installations in a matter hours.
What will Iran do? Will she go to war against a nuclear armed country? Will she invade Iraq and drag NATO into the conflict? Will she choke the Straights of Hormuz to send oil prices sky high and try to tip us back into recession?
Any one of these scenarios seems suicidal for Iran, but given the nature of her leadership, its difficult to assess their reactions.
What do you think? What would Iran do?
I am sensing a lot of hate for the Obama administration here.
It's a bit disappointing. I think the strategy of this administration is quite clear. It is often said that humour is a great weapon. Clearly by making themselves the laughing stock of the free world the Obama administration intends to overwhelm Ahmadinejad through their own stupidity and incompetence.
By not showing a clear and united strategy the US has cornered Ahmadinejad who will have no idea what to respond to or how to respond. He must be a very worried man right now!
We only have four days left before Ahmadinijad's promise of something special on Feb 11...I can hardly wait...
I am sensing a lot of hate for the Obama administration here.
I don't share in that ascribed "hate for the Obama Administration." It's more a case of pity and fury. Pity, for those who in that Adminstration who are in over their heads, and don't seem able even to recognize what it they must find out about Islam in order to effectively defend this country, and its natural and unshakeable allies (Canada, the countries of Europe, Israel, Australia, New Zealand)) that share the same civilization, and other countries farther afield civilizationally, that are nonetheless threatened, from within or without, by some of the same enemies (India, Japan, South Korea, Thailand, the Philipines), and in that last category one would add those countries that, while they recognize a domestic threat from some Muslims, are not yet willing to connect the dots to Jihad worldwide (Russia, China) or to make common and heartfelt cause, on this matter, with a confused and tentative West.
Fury, of course, over how much squandering of men, money, materiel, and morale (civilian and military) continues to go on, and how little is being done, it seems, to recognize the things that have the highest priority -- keeping any further acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by any Muslim state or group, and halting and then reversing the Muslim presence within the historic heart of the West, the naively-open and too-generous and insufficiently vigilant countries of Western Europe -- and then all the things that can be done if
1) we recognize, and exploit, the pre-existing fissures within the Camp of Islam, and especially emphasize, for the 80% of the world's Muslims who are not Arabs, that Islam is, has been, always will be, a vehicle for Arab supremacism and
2) understand just what the connnection is between the political, economic, social, intellectual, and moral failures of Muslim polities and peoples, and Islam itself.
Neither is difficult to do. I've written so much about these matters here, and in detail, that I keep wondering why the Pentagon does not at least invite me in for a chat After the two trillion dollars squandered in Iraq alone, you might think they'd give me a hearing, give me a whirl. Not yet. And I'm so hoping to be able to buy a new car, possibly a suddenly-discounted (but fixed, yes it has to be fixed) Toyota.
"I keep wondering why the Pentagon does not at least invite me in for a chat..."
Good luck with that, Hugh.
And I'm so hoping to be able to buy a new car, possibly a suddenly-discounted (but fixed, yes it has to be fixed) Toyota.
Watch that...Americans must buy GM...or else...
"Good luck with that..." -- from a poster
Yes, I know. I was only dreaming, dreaming William Steig's "Dreams of Glory."
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Hugh,
You have absolutely no chance. I agree that they do not understand Islam at all. Unfortunately, the Left sees the Muslim world as a potential ally in their fight against bloated capitalists and a supporter of their endeavours to bring in the new world order.
If it was up to me, I would adopt your strategy but then I'm just a bloated capitalist looking to preserve freedom.
For me it is hatred, but hatred directed at an ideology developed by cretinous ideologues based on the poorly thought out ideas of utopian philosophers with little regard or understanding of the human condition. It has a lot in common with Islam which skips the philosophy so is just the poorly thought out idea of a cretin.
For JW participants it is a waste of time to write about the unprecedented danger the world faces, existential and otherwise, and not just Israel, form the proliferation of nuclear weapon within the radical (redundant) islamic sphere.
Yes we are living at the proverbial tipping point in history where the road ahead diverges, one ascending upwards and forward the other plunging into an irreversible spiral of darkness for perpetuity.
If Obama remains consistent he will fail America’s and the World’s future by allowing his sympathy of the adversary to override his principle responsibility to ensure the security of the American people.
Even when the next administration comes to the rescue, the options left for them will involve a more entrenched enemy a significantly greater sacrifice and effort on our part to remedy the problem.
Something not mentioned is the essential step that unless the top leadership is destroyed along with the promise of depriving them indefinitely of these weapons lasting peace will not be achieved.
Thus the following two items are necessary to achieve success, , and not just for the next few years
1) Destruction of their nuclear, WMD’s capabilities post haste.
Now and in the future immediately if they persist with these efforts.
2) Decapitation of their leadership or forced cave isolation ala bin laden.
A bomb in their bedroom will awaken greater lucidity than the distant destruction of an inanimate edifice. Item two is the key.
You have to not only destroy the weapon but more importantly you have to extinguish those who are ready to kill you. Rain fire on the bastard lunatics of Tehran, and any leader who will kill you the first opportunity they get.
If item number two is done to them where they sleep, peace will be extended until a generation forgets the consequences of attempted genocide
50 years ago we had nukes that could be fired from the barrel of a 105 Howitzer. Imagine what we have now.
Wheat and weeds cannot be separated. All must be plowed under and the field replanted.
The innocent should flee or die with the wicked. The time is now, before we have an EMP extinguish the light of our technological society. These are the radicals that were too radical for the ayatoilet so smelly that led the islamic revolution. He snuffed and jailed the majority, but they hold the reins now and they seek Armageddon for the sake of the 12th imam.
nuts with nukes. That's just great Obama...you moron, you enabler. How long does it take to choose a Church? How long until he chooses a mosque to kiss the ass of the islamic scum?
He triples down on stupid on a regular basis. Slow learner indeed.
islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.
Fixed? Are you afraid it might reproduce? I would welcome a car that could reproduce...
sorry...couldn't resist.
This is Iran's version of the Nazi occupation of the Rhineland. I recall the Hitler or some Nazi insider later said that if the Allies had confronted them then and there, they (the Nazis) would have had to go back, humiliated with their tail between their legs. The window of opportunity to confront Iran on our terms is quickly closing.
Let's see, now, we have
1. Uranium enrichment boosted from 5% to 20%, on a clear trajectory toward reaching the 85% needed for weapons grade; weaponization (bundling into a small package, such as a warhead, suitable for delivery) likely following close behind.
2. Intermediate range ballistic missiles already tested and ready to go for delivering said warheads.
3. Belligerent Iranian leaders who regularly and publicly describe their intentions for using such weapons as soon as they get them.
4. Russia providing advanced ground-to-air defense technology to Iran to allow itself to protect against any possible disruptions to 1. and 2. above.
5. Western leaders unable to grasp the theoretical foundations underlying Iranian aggression, instead employing inappropriate, and discredited, Marxist theories to fashion ineffective economic half-measures whose effectiveness, such as they are, relies on the endorsement by a United Nations where Islamic obstructionism is the rule.
6. China silently waiting in the wings, fashioning plans about how best to benefit from the economic chaos that would follow an explosion in the Middle East that would topple the existing U.S. led world order.
So, is there anything about this that suggests a perfect storm is brewing? Hmmm .... Naw, nothing to worry about here ... Let's have another beer.
Well, when you put it like. What time does the Super Bowl start? Mine's a Hoegaarden - the people's beer.
Surely Keynesian economics hasn't been thoroughly discredited yet? Yeah sure, it got hammered by FDR's raw deal but I think it is only once we see the full effect of Obama's stimulus package and jobs bill that we will be able to claim it is thoroughly discredited.
NorseCrusader:
With a few exceptions, every Iranian nuclear installation is buried deep underground under a mountain. A Jericho will not take it out. A sustained air campaign is needed hitting the same spot again and again. Moreover, a large aerial armada of fighter-bombers will be needed to totally destroy Iran's Air Force, followed by an airlift of commandos aboard transport planes, so they actually storm nuclear sites and command-and-control centers. The biggest obstacle to such a campaign is ... the United States of America.
Obama Shmobama ... . It is not only Obama, it is all our Cowards-in-Chief, Republican and Democrat, who keep succeeding each other. Throughout the Bush administration and into the Obama administration, there has been a non-stop stream of top-ranked American cowards flying to Israel to restrain it from attacking Iran: Robert Gates, Adm. Michael Mullen, Gen. James Jones, the CIA Director Leon Panetta, Gates again ... . Not only does the US itself not dare to take on Iran, but it does not let Israel do the job either. This kind of panicky, debilitating cowardice of our huge, excessively armed "superpower" before a medium-sized, stand-alone, non-nuclear - yet - Muslim country is not logical. It is pathological. When the top leaders of our government and military have no courage at all, all these enormous armaments that we have are of no use at all.
Just 2 years ago, we had a chance to elect a man to the presidency. Rudy Giuliani was there to rescue this country. Did not take the Republican primary voters any time to ditch him, did it? This horrendous blunder by our voters has proved that our Western democracy is bankrupt. It is not up to the challenges of today's dangerous world. For decades, our country has suffered from a severe case of what I call BL: Bad Leadership. And with the rejection of Rudy by the voters, our only hope for salvation is gone.
It is easy to despair.
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.
So, what options are left, Ruslan? Any realistic hope of fomenting a revolution inside Iran that would, if nothing else, disrupt their march toward nuclearization? Some on this site would argue that Iranian aggression finds its roots in Islamic principles, and further that Iranian culture and society are so rooted in Islamic history that even a change in leadership would not cause Iran, no matter what new guise it would present itself in, to abandon any nuclear advantage once gained. On the other hand, one finds a thriving Iranian diaspora that argues that if there is to be any future for the world there is no other option but to eliminate the Iranian theocracy. What say you?
BTW, Rudy can't be ruled out, even now. But time's awasting.
This idiocy is astounding.
Indeed it is, I'm wondering how far this will go.
Pigman's Foreign Policy: U F W/U.S. U'R F'D
It is terrifying to watch this unfolding, and to have very little idea of what one can possibly do, personally, as an individual citizen, to avert absolute disaster.
My own country, Australia, can - practically speaking, as a small to medium range power with no real global reach - do nothing much. Our current government abandoned the idea of trying to arraign Ahmadinejad at the Hague on a charge of incitement to genocide. I did my best to try to inform the PM *and* the Opposition leader as to the impeccably mainstream Islamic sources of Ahmadinejad's venomous antisemitism, and to warn them that all his threats against Israel must be taken absolutely seriously, but I don't think it made even a dent.
I am forced, therefore, to watch, and to pray, and to try to hope beyond hope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FduQYC_ZDSo&feature=related
and again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2tEt5q7Glo&feature=related
and again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G-_73qnTRo
Spem in alium nunquam habui praeter in te
Deus Israel
qui irasceris
et propitius eris
et omnia peccata hominum in tribulatione dimittis
Domine Deus
Creator coeli et terrae
respice humilitatem nostram.
"I have never put my hope in any other but in you,
O God of Israel
who can show both anger
and graciousness,
and who absolves all the sins of suffering man
Lord God,
Creator of Heaven and Earth
be mindful of our lowliness."
"It is terrifying to watch this unfolding..."
Indeed it is.
I forgot to thank you for the YouTube links. Can't put my finger on why just now, but listening to them gives me the feeling that this is a place I should spend more time in.
Eastview:
The ranks of the Iranian opposition are very diverce. Some of the ayatollahs who emerged as nominal "leaders" of the protests are no better than those in power. Some of them are now capitulating and bowing out of the fight. But there are grass-roots folks who represent genuine Resistance and are willing to go all the way to overthrough all the mullahs. In any case, the immediate, intolerable threat is posed by the ruling Islamo-Nazi cult with their SS (Revolutionary Guards), Storm Troopers (Basij), and Overseas SS Corps, a world-wide network of suicidal-homicidal-genocidal cultists, Quds-Hezbollah, ready to strike any time, anywhere in the world, with conventional bombs now, and with nuclear bombs soon, unless a pre-emptive action is taken against the Iranian Islamo-Nazi Reich. This is why any revolt, by anyone against it must be backed. As to who will succede those Nazis, this is something to worry about later. However, I am afraid, the chance to aid this popular revolt has slipped away. On February 11, the Resistance will have their last hurray, and the Islamo-Nazi Reich will emerge from this showdown victorious, emboldened, and more dangerous than ever.
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.
Muhammed Bear wrote (tongue-in-cheek):
By not showing a clear and united strategy the US has cornered Ahmadinejad who will have no idea what to respond to or how to respond. He must be a very worried man right now!
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Are you kidding, Muhammed Bear" Here's our Commander-in-Chief from just a few days ago, *getting tough*:
"And I told them, I want to work together when we can, and I meant it. I believe that’s the best way to get things done for the American people. But I also made it clear that we’ll call them out when they say they want to work with us, and we extend a hand, and get a fist in return."
Oh, uh...wait. Obama didn't say this about Achmadinejad and Iran, he said it about *the Republicans*, while referring to positions on health care.
Obama seems to believe the only ones presenting a "fist" to his "open hand" are the Republicans and FOX News.
*Actual threats* from Iran and their nuclear ambitions don't seem to bother him all that much—not in comparison, anyway.
It's a great point that you make GravenImage. Clearly I hadn't thought this one through.
I mean, if he is prepared to get that tough against his own countrymen just think what he would be prepared to a ruthless, murdering dictator and capricious violator of human rights whose belief system is totally alien to the free world and who represents the most dangerous threat to humanity at this time.
Pursuant to my posting above: about the best advice I can give to my fellow Australian jihadwatchers, both lurkers and posters, re this matter, is to make a concentrated effort to educate our sitting MPs, both state and federal, about Islamic antisemitism; the fact that it is hardwired into the core texts of Islam.
Somehow, we have to keep at our politicians, at them and at them, telling them over and over that the entire Muslim world, because of its Islamic 'programming', really, really wants to destroy Israel, and will try to do so the minute it (the Ummah) has sufficient power to do so; and that the assault on Israel, not just by the local Arab Muslims but by all Muslims - after all, Ahmadinejad is not an Arab but a Persian - is just one part of a global Jihad against *all* non-Muslims. That *nothing* Israel does, short of total surrender and self-dissolution, would ever do; and that even if the Jews of Israel agreed to the dismantling of their state and submitted to the near-slave dhimmi status that many of their ancestors endured for 1400 years inside dar al Islam, this would not end Muslim hatred of Jews nor make Muslims any less inclined to bully, harass, slander, rape, kidnap, enslave, rob and murder Jews whenever they, the Muslims, felt like so doing.
We also have to keep telling our politicians that *every time* another Mohammedan 'migrant' or 'asylum seeker' steps onto Australian soil, the likelihood that our Jewish Australian fellow citizens will suffer a jihadist attack (an attack motivated directly by the Jew-hatred explicitly taught by the Islamic texts), increases perceptibly. We are *endangering our Jewish fellow citizens* unnecessarily and recklessly and indeed cruelly, by permitting the Mohammedan colonies within Australia to grow, and grow, and grow.
If we want to keep antisemitism in Australia at a manageable level, the simplest and quickest way to achieve that, is to stop any further immigration of Muslims into Australia!
And as regards the international scene, perhaps the best thing Australia can do is to resolutely vote NO to every 'let's hate Israel' resolution that the OIC nations try to ram through the General Assembly. We Aussie jihadwatchers have to screw up the courage to tell our politicians, and keep on telling them, that if Israel does, in utter desperation, strike Iran in self-defence (and we will have already told those politicians why such a strike is completely justified), then...supposing per miraculum that things don't escalate into World War IV, but remain at the yelling and stamping stage, Australia must stand in the UN as a friend of Israel, *no matter what anyone else does*.
It would be good, too, if we could find the guts to shift our embassy in Israel, from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and loudly announce that we henceforward recognise an undivided Jerusalem as the permanent spiritual and political and national capital of the Jewish state of Israel. Let's tell our politicians that we - and most of us are non-Jews - are prepared to vote for the first political party that a. puts this move on its platform and b. follows through and actually *does it*.
I suggest to Canadians and New Zealanders here present that you do your best along the same lines, with your own politicians.
"It would be good, too, if we could ... shift our embassy in Israel, from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and loudly announce that we henceforward recognise an undivided Jerusalem as the permanent spiritual and political and national capital of the Jewish state of Israel... etc."
** Sustained Applause ** Hear, Hear! The U.S., Canada, and New Zealand should go in together on this. (I would love for the U.K. to join in this, as well, but their new loyalties to the E.U. might make it difficult for them to do so.) Furthermore, to provide for the security of the capitol and the state, the territory adjacent to Jerusalem, i.e., the West Bank, and the Golan Heights should be annexed into Israel, as well.
"... the fact that it is hardwired into the core texts of Islam."
Unfortunately, antisemitism is hard wired into the core beliefs of socialists as well. Chances are that Kevin Rudd will be every bit as antisemetic as the Muslim immigrants he fawns over.
I had always been puzzled by my own personal experiences as to the more left someone is the more likely they are to hate Israel. It never made any sense until I started learning about Marx and the history of the Left.
Unfortunately, most people on the Left are totally oblivious to their history and the underlying philosophy of their movement. They just see the Palestinians as the good guys and the Israelis as the villains. I worked with a passionate socialist who blamed everything on Israel. She would even deny video evidence of Palestinians snatching children for human shields.
The far left suffers from overwhelming hubris. They are fighting the good cause and anyone disagreeing is evil. That way they never need to undergo any self reflection or question their beliefs. The ends always justifies the means.
It certainly explains Obama. Moreso than the closet Muslim accusation.
Israel will not survive
If we don't halt Ahmadinejad's jive.
It's really not news
That his target is Jews,
And his weapon's U235.
I am sure the US has contingency plans for a strike at Iran that will neutralize its nuclear pontential and kill that SOB Ahmadinejad. The question is, will our clueless President have the will or brains to use it? They might make him give the Nobel Peace Prize back?
"If Obama remains consistent he will fail America’s and the World’s future by allowing his sympathy of the adversary to override his principle responsibility to ensure the security of the American people."
I think you give him too much credit. First, Van Jones Green Czar self avowed Communist. Valerie Jarret declared the United States an "Imperialist Nation". She's the Obamas closest adviser. A Christmas ornament bearing the image of Mao Tse Tung was hung on the White House Christmas Tree. Both of Obamas parents were Communists. He speaks to his "Progressive friends" and to Republicans. He sees the Constitution as a document of limitations, not a guarantee of freedom against tyranny. It is an impediment to his agenda.
22 years sitting in Wrights racist, anti-American "Church" and he heard nothing? Absorbed nothing? Wright was a muslim before he started up his "Church". Hung out with Farrakhan when he visited Gaddafi duck to show support to a muslim brother. Have you noticed that Holder refuses to prosecute the black panthers that intimidated white voters with batons and threats about being "ruled by the black man cracker."
search Cloward and Piven and look at what is happening to our economy at his hands. I'm not in to conspiracy theories, but some things kinda slap you in the face. He sees America as in need of being taken down a peg or two. When he speaks of leveling the playing field, he means lower America.
islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.
Oh and I forgot...one of Obamas many Czars recently said, "We kind of agree with Mao, that political power comes from the barrel of a gun." He went on to say that they would first employ "the power of persuasion" to convince the American people of the rightness of their position, and that if that failed they would then employ the "persuasion of power." Search for yourself. If that doesn't quicken your heartbeat nothing will.
Is it any wonder that enough firearms were sold in the US in the last 3 months to arm both the Chinese and Indian armies?
Obama is a liar and Truth is
killing his Marxist agenda. Truth is like that.
"I believe there is still time for sanctions to work."
Only if we can cut off their air supply.