Madness: State Department sends MPAC Executive Director to Europe to speak about religious freedom and free speech

"Madness"?

Not really. Who better to educate Europe about where their freedoms are truly going . . . (FLUSH)

Indeed, it is madness. Would be interested, though, in learning what form his taqiyya spin actually took, what venues he spoke at and how his remarks were received, and the grade he received from the State Department after he completed his mission - and your commentary on same.

Offhand, I know of no historical example in which political entities, threatened by an ideology which seeks to utterly alter, even destroy, those political entities if given the opportunity, have been so accommodating to representatives of the potentially destructive ideology. Does anyone?

The pass that Islam continues to get is without precedent I believe (just goes to show the power Islam has because it can hide behind its religious veil, arguably its single greatest weapon). If anyone could successfully and accurately refute this speculation (hypothesis?) of mine, I would actually be quite grateful, just for knowledge's sake and all that.

So this Muslim Brotherhood headbanger gets to travel to EUnuchistan to educate the dhimmies about the glory of Islam, while Frere Tariq gets to travel to the US?

Hmm.

Strange. Cambridge University just cancelled a Speech by Israeli Historian over “anti-Muslim statements…”

http://sheikyermami.com/2010/02/02/cambridge-university-cancels-speech-by-israeli-historian-over-anti-muslim-statements/

Strange world we live in.

Interesting that Mr. Salam al-Marayati is going to Europe to discuss religious freedom and free speech. Why not Saudi Arabia or some other Islamic paradise?

More than any other U.S. Muslim Brotherhood organization...
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Really, that should be enough right there. If *any* Muslim group is found to have clear links to the vicious Muslim Brotherhood, the organization should be shut down and its members thoroughly investigated.

OT - I just finished reading the book by John J. O'Neill titled "Holy Warriors - Islam and the Demise of Classical Civilization" where the thesis is advanced that the collapse of European civilization that led to the Middle Ages starting in the Eighth Century was caused by the Muslim conquest and the shutting down of trade and commerce in the Mediterranean. The book criticizes the idea of an enlightened Muslim civilization in Spain that was allegedly responsible for preserving classical Greek and Roman culture until such time as the European barbarians had absorbed enough culture to take the baton at the Renaissance. The subject has been discussed previously on this forum, I believe.

Has anyone else here read this book? It deals with many of the same topics discussed here, and even quotes Robert Spencer.

I thought O'Neill made a compelling argument - until I got to the Appendix, where he drops his bomb shell of an explanation to account for the almost four century delay between the initial Muslim invasion of Europe in 711 CE and the Christian response with the Crusades in 1095 CE.

O'Neill discusses the apparent lack of archeological artifacts in Spain of the kind one might think should be found if there had existed a magnificent culture like is alleged to have been in al-Andalus during the Middle Ages. To account for this he proposes - hold on to your seat - that not only did such a magnificent civilization never occur, but "...the years...between 614 and 911 never actually existed." (p 233). Thus, almost 300 years of history have simply been fabricated in the West and inserted into the historical timeline. The Middle Ages never occurred.

I'm not a historian, but even to me this seems to be far fetched, radical, and likely not to be taken seriously. I feel severely disappointed at having followed an otherwise intriguing story, but then being gobsmacked in the face at the climax by such an outrageous theory. Would welcome comments from historians on this forum who can dissect this argument better than me.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/ALLAHTHEPIG

A clarification - I should have mentioned that O'Neill doesn't conclude that events that are known to have occurred and presently believed to fall within the 614-911 CE time window (e.g., Mohammad's death, Poitier) didn't actually occur, only that they are incorrectly dated.

I have never posted at this website before & I would like to take my hat off to all JW contributors, past & present.
Here is a quote from the esteemed Marayati, which tells you all you need to know about the man.

http://www.investigativeproject.org/1449/salam-al-marayati-the-anti-anti-terrorist
If we’re going to look at suspects we should look to the groups that benefit the most from these kinds of incidents, & I think we should put the state of Israel on the suspect list because I think this diverts attention from what’s happening in the Palestinian territories so that they can go on with their aggression & occupation & apartheid policies.

Lovely.

Whoops. I probably should have mentioned he was referring to 9-11.

Well just psck your suit case and get your ass back to the US. You can not reason with radical Islamic Muslims. Why? Because they are 100% grade double A INSANE IDI0TS. Its either their way or life of NO life at all. How are you going to reason with fools who are hell bent on killing ON SITE if you don't worship or believe in life the way they do? Nice try. Now get home before you become a statistic.