Al-Marayati: Fool me once...
Salam al-Marayati is the slick, albeit charmless and bullying, head of the Muslim Public Affairs Council. According to the Global Muslim Brotherhood Daily Report (thanks to Rosanne), he "traveled to Europe last month at the invitation of the State Department to speak about religious freedom and free speech."
And what's wrong with that? The Report explains:
[...] MPAC was established initially in 1986 as the Political Action Committee of the Islamic Center of Southern California whose key leaders likely had their origins in the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. Since that time, MPAC has functioned as the political lobbying arm of the U.S. Brotherhood. MPAC has opposed virtually every count-terror initiative undertaken or proposed by the U.S. government. At times this opposition was said to be on civil-rights grounds but, just as often, MPAC claimed that U.S. counter-terror efforts were aimed at the U.S. Muslim community itself. MPAC has constructed and consistently espoused an elaborate ideology defending the use of violence by Islamists and Islamist organizations. More than any other U.S. Muslim Brotherhood organization, MPAC has developed extensive relationships with the U.S. government which have included numerous meetings with the Department of Justice and the FBI.
And that's one reason why we're in the fix we're in.
The Muslim Brotherhood, you may recall, is dedicated in its own words to "eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within, and sabotaging its miserable house...so that God's religion [Islam, of course] is victorious over other religions" -- which latter is a political statement more than a religious one.
"Madness"?
Not really. Who better to educate Europe about where their freedoms are truly going . . . (FLUSH)
Indeed, it is madness. Would be interested, though, in learning what form his taqiyya spin actually took, what venues he spoke at and how his remarks were received, and the grade he received from the State Department after he completed his mission - and your commentary on same.
Offhand, I know of no historical example in which political entities, threatened by an ideology which seeks to utterly alter, even destroy, those political entities if given the opportunity, have been so accommodating to representatives of the potentially destructive ideology. Does anyone?
The pass that Islam continues to get is without precedent I believe (just goes to show the power Islam has because it can hide behind its religious veil, arguably its single greatest weapon). If anyone could successfully and accurately refute this speculation (hypothesis?) of mine, I would actually be quite grateful, just for knowledge's sake and all that.
So this Muslim Brotherhood headbanger gets to travel to EUnuchistan to educate the dhimmies about the glory of Islam, while Frere Tariq gets to travel to the US?
Hmm.
Strange. Cambridge University just cancelled a Speech by Israeli Historian over “anti-Muslim statements…”
http://sheikyermami.com/2010/02/02/cambridge-university-cancels-speech-by-israeli-historian-over-anti-muslim-statements/
Strange world we live in.
Interesting that Mr. Salam al-Marayati is going to Europe to discuss religious freedom and free speech. Why not Saudi Arabia or some other Islamic paradise?
More than any other U.S. Muslim Brotherhood organization...
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Really, that should be enough right there. If *any* Muslim group is found to have clear links to the vicious Muslim Brotherhood, the organization should be shut down and its members thoroughly investigated.
OT - I just finished reading the book by John J. O'Neill titled "Holy Warriors - Islam and the Demise of Classical Civilization" where the thesis is advanced that the collapse of European civilization that led to the Middle Ages starting in the Eighth Century was caused by the Muslim conquest and the shutting down of trade and commerce in the Mediterranean. The book criticizes the idea of an enlightened Muslim civilization in Spain that was allegedly responsible for preserving classical Greek and Roman culture until such time as the European barbarians had absorbed enough culture to take the baton at the Renaissance. The subject has been discussed previously on this forum, I believe.
Has anyone else here read this book? It deals with many of the same topics discussed here, and even quotes Robert Spencer.
I thought O'Neill made a compelling argument - until I got to the Appendix, where he drops his bomb shell of an explanation to account for the almost four century delay between the initial Muslim invasion of Europe in 711 CE and the Christian response with the Crusades in 1095 CE.
O'Neill discusses the apparent lack of archeological artifacts in Spain of the kind one might think should be found if there had existed a magnificent culture like is alleged to have been in al-Andalus during the Middle Ages. To account for this he proposes - hold on to your seat - that not only did such a magnificent civilization never occur, but "...the years...between 614 and 911 never actually existed." (p 233). Thus, almost 300 years of history have simply been fabricated in the West and inserted into the historical timeline. The Middle Ages never occurred.
I'm not a historian, but even to me this seems to be far fetched, radical, and likely not to be taken seriously. I feel severely disappointed at having followed an otherwise intriguing story, but then being gobsmacked in the face at the climax by such an outrageous theory. Would welcome comments from historians on this forum who can dissect this argument better than me.
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/ALLAHTHEPIG
A clarification - I should have mentioned that O'Neill doesn't conclude that events that are known to have occurred and presently believed to fall within the 614-911 CE time window (e.g., Mohammad's death, Poitier) didn't actually occur, only that they are incorrectly dated.
I'm relieved to hear of this clarification, Eastview, since your 11:26 P.M. post flabbergasted me, you know the part about O'Neill supposedly claiming some three hundred years didn't really exist (kind of like million-man math). I have not read O'Neill's work but it sounds to me like an updating of the Pirenne thesis from over seventy years ago whereby the great Belgian historian, Henri Pirenne, in his work, Mohammed and Charlemagne, opined that classical civilization didn't end in the fifth century A.D. (the terminating of the Emperorship in the West in 476 A.D., with the German chieftan, Odoacer, just quietly ending the young Romulus Augustulus' short reign being a mere technicality) but rather in the seventh and eighth centuries because of the Islamic disruption of trade routes and so many other things. I have to wonder if O'Neill's real contribution (and I'm just speculating here) is his downplaying of the achievements of medieval Islam, which even Pirenne didn't get into all that much. Don't know. Will have to pick up a copy of O'Neill's work. Intrigued too by your conveying that O'Neill thinks certain events have been wrongly dated. Wonder what his evidence is for this. Hmmm. Yes, I'll have to get myself a copy. Thanks for your input.
Wellington, yes, it is the Pirenne thesis that O'Neill elaborates on. History being a fairly recent passion of mine, and not having the sure bearings of someone who has spent a lifetime studying Medieval history, I am acutely aware of the possibility that I may have somehow misinterpreted O'Neill's main point. Nevertheless, he was rather explicit in what he proposed. I found it curious that he relegated the details to the Appendix, titled "A Mythical Dark Age?" that has sections where he discusses problems associated with the anno domini calender used to place historical dates. I would be very keen to hear your educated opinion about this work.
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Here is a quote from the esteemed Marayati, which tells you all you need to know about the man.
http://www.investigativeproject.org/1449/salam-al-marayati-the-anti-anti-terrorist
If we’re going to look at suspects we should look to the groups that benefit the most from these kinds of incidents, & I think we should put the state of Israel on the suspect list because I think this diverts attention from what’s happening in the Palestinian territories so that they can go on with their aggression & occupation & apartheid policies.
Lovely.
Whoops. I probably should have mentioned he was referring to 9-11.
Thanks for the link to the very interesting article on investigativeproject.org. The gist of your comments otherwise was somewhat unclear, but it sounds like you agree with the conspiricists who blame the Jews for everything. Would this be a fair reading?
Well just psck your suit case and get your ass back to the US. You can not reason with radical Islamic Muslims. Why? Because they are 100% grade double A INSANE IDI0TS. Its either their way or life of NO life at all. How are you going to reason with fools who are hell bent on killing ON SITE if you don't worship or believe in life the way they do? Nice try. Now get home before you become a statistic.
That would not be a fair reading. I did a poor job of getting my point across. I only meant to show the hatred & idiocy of Marayati.
Long live Israel.
Thanks! Thought that might have been the case.
Long live Israel!