Welcome to the Brave New World of Eurabian journalism. The Muhammad cartoon dhimmitude displayed by the former lions of free speech in the mainstream media on both sides of the Atlantic was just the beginning. "Newspaper Withdraws Interview following Threat," from NIS News, February 10:
NIJMEGEN, 10/02/10 - Regional newspaper De Gelderlander has decided not to publish an interview with a Moroccan woman after the newspaper was threatened by her son. Nonetheless, the editors deny they gave in to intimidation.Two Moroccan criminals ran over a 50 year old man with their scooter last month while fleeing from the police after robbing a hotel. The perpetrators then went to the hospital where doctors were trying to save the man's life. He died because they made their work impossible.
De Gelderlander interviewed the mother and sister of one of the perpetrators, an 18 year old Moroccan youngster. The interview was however never published. The newspaper says that the women "withdrew their cooperation with the interview."
The brother of one of the suspects visited the editorial staff of De Gelderlander last Friday and demanded that the newspaper drop publication. The youth also threatened an editor, according to the newspaper. "We would obviously have preferred to publish," says chief editor Kees Pijnappels. "But we are morally obligated to the sister and mother. Because of their decision to withdraw their cooperation, we cannot publish."
The mother likely distanced herself from the behaviour of her son in the unpublished interview. De Gelderlander earlier published a letter of apology from family members of the other suspect in the scooter accident.
The victim died in the hospital because the perps interfered with the medical care after running him over? These killers need to be in jail awaiting deportation orders, not free to walk the streets & hustle newspaper editors.
Wow, there is so much unsaid in this article. First off, why were the Morrocon criminals not arrested at the hospital? How were they interfering with the doctor? What are they doing still walking the streets and threatening citizens? Why were they not arrested for threatening the editor? Whew.
"Wow, there is so much unsaid in this article. First off, why were the Morrocon criminals not arrested at the hospital? How were they interfering with the doctor? What are they doing still walking the streets and threatening citizens? Why were they not arrested for threatening the editor? Whew."
Rev 13:4
"...Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?"
Every time I see an incident involving Islam, where it is obvious so much is not being said, as it is in this case, and what isn't being said is caused by intimidation, direct or implied, by Muslims, I see where this will come from. I also see how it works, so easily.
They behave like a nest of fire ants. You aggravate it, and they swarm. If you deal with one, there is another, and another, and the more of them you deal with, the more of them there seem to be. In the case of Islam, and western law, and how they are now clashing, how can you possibly deal with them all? Our laws require that they act first, and that we deal with them one ant at a time. We can not go after the nest, we have made that illegal and "wrong".
So in order to keep a semblance of order, we do our best not to disturb that nest, to not aggravate or fall into that nest, the seemingly endless nest demonstrated by the cartoon rage of millions upon millions upon millions of them.
"The brother of one of the suspects visited the editorial staff of De Gelderlander last Friday and demanded that the newspaper drop publication. The youth also threatened an editor, according to the newspaper."
In this case it is a family, consisting of how many brothers and uncles and cousins, ready to rouse, and assault, and murder to protect. These are willing, even eager to die to defend or extend the nest.
The west however has become weak, and refuses to defend those who through action, inaction, or happenstance, fall into this nest. For it fears, fears what it would mean if it was to wake up, and realize that these millions upon millions upon millions of people, are willing and even eager, once we rouse, or become aware, or even hint at discontent with this nest, to wage war, a war of total annihilation. For in the end it is either their way of life or ours that must eventually perish.
This is not by our choice, but by the command of their Allah.
Indeed, who is like the beast?
It seems I have to read the report of Islamic crimes over at least twice as they make no HUMAN sense to me. It is like reading about the behavior of Alien creatures. I'm trying to picture what happened at the hospital. I cannot. Can someone describe what happened?
Islam is somewhat unique in having the ability to disable normal human empathy in followers. Perhaps a comparison would be to gang members in modern Western cities who have no allegiance to anything but the gang and in some cases would literally kill their own family members over gang issues. They become almost reptile-like acting on base instincts without thinking.
Newspapers now crumbling to street punks. Mahoud gang members overrunning hospitals, then walking into news offices and threatening editors. Fabulous.
I can't tell which makes it more effective: the fearlessness of the jihadists or the dhimmitude of the media.
Every single member of this Moroccan Muslim extended family should be scooped up - by the Dutch military, if necessary, in surprise raids - and, if any of them possess Dutch 'citizenship', sentenced to Exile For The Term of Your Natural Life.
Any and all assets they possess in the Netherlands should be confiscated and divided between 1. the family of the man who died because the Muslim thugs prevented the doctors from giving him lifesaving medical care 2. the newspaper and 3. the Dutch government, to help defray the costs of the arrest and the deportation.
Then drop them in a dinghy inside Moroccan territorial waters, with lifejackets, a couple of distress flares and jerrycans of water.
Whatever happens to them after that is the responsibility of the Moroccan government.
If it is known that any or all of them attended a mosque. that mosque should be shut down at once, and preferably, demolished - one should note that the mafia-style standover visit to the newspaper to deliver threats, was made *on a Friday*.
This isn't a 'religion' as we think of it in the West. This looks to me more and more like the Thuggees crossed with the Mafia crossed with the Triads: an organised crime 'family'/ gang/ Mob which is also a murderous death cult; which has often, historically, gained new members by kidnapping and violent brainwashing and enslaving and brutalising of the vulnerable, especially minors, and which assassinates any member who per miraculum grows a human conscience and tries to leave.
Question - would the SIOE or Pax Europa be able to make this case a cause celebre?
If the man who died as a direct result of the amoral supremacist Nazi-style thuggishness of these Muslims, was a non-Muslim Dutch citizen, his face and name should be on placards in Resist the Jihad! marches and rallies, alongside the faces of Theo Van Gogh, Pym Fortuyn (killed by a janissary), Kriss Donald and Ilan Halimi.
Lorgan above graphically describes an aspect of the 'what'. You have asked 'why'. I ask, where to start...?
Apart from the obligatory Koran, hadiths and such, you could do worse than read Lee Harris "The Suicide of Reason" (2007) and Philip Carl Salzman "Culture and Conflict in the Middle East" (2008).
Julien et A Vrai Dire - Bravo!
Two Moroccan criminals ran over a 50 year old man with their scooter last month while fleeing from the police after robbing a hotel. The perpetrators then went to the hospital where doctors were trying to save the man's life. He died because they made their work impossible."
They robbed a hotel. They then ran over a Dutch man with their scooter while fleeing the police, critically wounding him. . They went found out where the man had been taken, went to that very hospital, "where doctors were trying to save the man's life" and the man "died because they [those Moroccans] made their work impossible."
In a better-ordered world, we know what should have happened then.
Two Moroccan criminals ran over a 50 year old man with their scooter last month while fleeing from the police after robbing a hotel. The perpetrators then went to the hospital where doctors were trying to save the man's life. He died because they made their work impossible.
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Like American Delight, and Hugh, and a number of other posters, I found this even more shocking than the intimidation of the press.
I have a close relative who has been in and out of prison for years, and has several times fled from the police and led them on chases. I have been appalled by his attitude towards innocent bystanders—generally, he gives them very little thought. A few times, he has said he considers anyone who gets in his way to "be stupid". Once, he got angry at a person who had parked his car in his own driveway, because his totaling the man's car added to his charges. I have always worried that someday he will seriously injure or even kill someone.
In essence, he considers innocent bystanders just people who get in his way—which *is repulsive*, and all too common among criminals.
That being said, even he would never consider *following a victim to the hospital*. This reveals a whole different mindset-and one that is far, far worse. Like so many Jihadists, they wanted to *finish their victim off*. We saw this with Hamas Jihadists and their Fatah victims in the takeover of Gaza.
It also makes me wonder just what they did to make the doctors' "work impossible". The emergency rooms of most city hospitals are noisy and busy, so they must have been doing much more than just causing a disturbance. It sounds as though they actually *caused this innocent man's death*.
And they did this in the face of what most criminals would consider their own best interests. Many criminals avoid hospitals even if they themselves are injured, because they know they know that apprehension and arrest are likely.
This was not just criminals robbing a hotel and killing an innocent bystander while fleeing the police. That would in itself be an ugly crime, but it would be somewhat intelligible.
This is not crime—this is *Jihad*.
Fjordman has written extensively on this subject:
"This violence by Muslims is usually labelled simply as “crime,” but I believe it should more accurately be called Jihad. Those who know early Islamic history, as described in books such as The Truth About Muhammad by Robert Spencer, know that looting and stealing the property of non-Muslims has been part and parcel of Jihad from the very beginning. In fact, so much of the behavior of Muhammad himself and the early Muslims could be deemed criminal that it is difficult to know exactly where crime ends and Jihad begins...
As Dutch Arabist Hans Jansen points out, the Koran is seen by some Muslims as a God-given “hunting licence,” granting them the right to assault and even murder non-Muslims."
Muslim Violence — Crime or Jihad?
http://www.globalpolitician.com/22575-jihad
My problem with this story can be summarized with the question: Does Islam have anything to do with this crime, and would it not perhaps be better to say this was a crime committed by criminal punks? There are, in fact, numerous instances in which newspapers have squashed stories for any number of reasons. I am not any more sure that this crime has to do with Islam than I would be sure that a crime committed by a Christian has to do with Christianity, or a crime committed by an atheist speaks for atheism.
Two Moroccan criminals ran over a 50 year old man with their scooter last month while fleeing from the police after robbing a hotel. The perpetrators then went to the hospital where doctors were trying to save the man's life. He died because they made their work impossible.
UNBELIEVABLE!!! Is this saying that the muslim criminals who robbed a hotel and ran over this poor man interfered with or forcibly prevented the medical staff from administering life-saving treatment? If so, they are MURDERERS. Sounds like the Netherlands has become a dangerous place run by muslim thugs backed by the "peaceful" islamic community. It's nice to know muslims can murder and rob with impunity in Holland because that's preferable to possible mass outrage/muslim riots if they are arrested for breaking the law. But now that I think about it, muslims do consider themselves above secular law. It's just too prohibitive compared to allah's, which encourages and cultivates barbarism.
The answer to the query given by the poster at 8:15 can be found in the posting immediately before, in the quote from the scholar of Islam Hans Jansen, and the essay, to which a link is given, by Fjordman.
Meanwhile, back at the courtroom, Mr Wilders was being denied......whatever.
dumbledoresarmy
If only we could do this. Unfortunately, the situation is so far gone in the West, that even electing the BNP or Wilders becoming PM of the Netherlands, will do any good.
Nothing short of an old fashioned war will save us now.
The story is not entirely correct and complete. Nijmegen is my hometown and I did my internship with this newspaper and I know the editor that was threatened.
The boys were both injured themselves after the crash (they crashed into a car too...) and were taken to the same hospital (Radboud) as the man they ran over.
The man they ran over didn't die *because* they made work impossible for the doctors. They were already under arrest at that moment. Still, they managed to make threats to nurses and doctors.
What's more, the families and friends of the two guys were trying to force their way into the hospital. They needed 9 cops and the hospital security guards to keep them out.
The newspaper has postponed the interview because the safety of the mother and sister were at stake. Just goes to show that the women in the house have nothing to say. They are the victims of the men in the family.
The boys will probably be prosecuted for aggravated manslaughter.
By the way, someone asked how this has to do with Islam? What I do know is that Nijmegen has recently seen a big increase in violent robberies, committed by mostly Moroccan youth on scooters and mopeds. The death of this man was just a by-product of the total disrespect of these kids for our society.
YEAHAAA !!! WE GOT OUR OWN JIHADI PASSENGER WITH A KNIFE !
New Delhi, Feb 11 (ANI): Delhi police has detained a 61-year old American national at the Indira Gandhi International (IGI) airport just before he was to was to board a Qatar- bound flight after a sharp object was found in his baggage.
Buzz up!The special cell of the Delhi police and the Intelligence Bureau (IB) is now questioning the man identified as Winston Marshall, who was also carrying a fake passport along with the sharp object.
Sources said Marshall is now being questioned by the investigating agencies and the American mission has been informed about the same.
Marshall is a convert from Christianity to Islam and had arrived in India for the first time a fortnight ago on a tourist visa. He has a tourist visa to India, Pakistan and Bangladesh and arrived here from Pakistan.
Airport sources claimed that during the security check, Central Industrial Security Force (CISF) officials found the knife 'concealed between an herbal plant following which he was handed over to the police. (ANI)
Many thanks to Mini Pax for details on the hospital side of the crime. But is this the only way to get the facts? Is there no newspaper or police report of the incident at the hospital?
And why does the one report we have refer to an 18-year-old as a "youngster"? That may be translated from Dutch, but even so. Is this an editorial choice meant to suggest that the criminals are not responsible for what they did?
"Two Moroccan criminals ran over a 50 year old man with their scooter last month while fleeing from the police after robbing a hotel. The perpetrators then went to the hospital where doctors were trying to save the man's life. He died because they made their work impossible."
American Delight and others:
I could care less about the ethnic identity of these creeps. They're poster children for the death penalty. period.
You mean those killers need ropes putting around their necks before their descent through a trapdoor.
So this is what hundreds of thousands of Allied troops fought for 66 years ago. My grandad was amongst those troops who liberated Holland. He saw one of his best friends blown up by a booby trap bomb in Holland. The victim was just 19 years old. And what do we get two generations later? THIS!!!!!! Europe was liberated by our grandparents only for an ungrateful postwar generation that never had to fight for freedom to let Muslims in, who are now threatening to do to Holland what the Nazis did and even worse. Holland now has more than 10 times as many Muslims living there as what it did 40 years ago, and 60 times as many Muslims living there as what it did 50 years ago. The Dutch were given the gift of freedom in 1945, and in common with the rest of liberated Europe, threw it all away on the altar of political correctness and suicidal multiculturalism. What things will be like 20, 30 or 50 years from now hardly bears thinking about.