No. The existence of his genocidal, hateful regime, and his ideology of subjugation, violence, and hatred -- that's an insult to all of humanity.
Note also the projection: he represents an expansionist, supremacist doctrine, as he himself has avowed, and he attributes this world-conquering imperative to Israel.
"Existence of Zionist regime an insult to humanity, president," from IRNA, February 28 (thanks to Pamela, who has some apposite remarks here).
Tehran, Feb 28, IRNA -- President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Sunday that existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to the entire humanity.Addressing International Conference on 'National and Islamic Solidarity for Future of Palestine', he said that it is well-known for all that the Zionist regime's mission is threat, violence and beating drums of war.
Supporters of the Zionist regime who are shouting slogans of human rights and anti-terrorism, support systematic crimes of the occupying regime, the president said.
He said that everybody knows that the regime is seeking hegemony over the world.
He said that the Zionist regime is the origin of all the wars, genocide, terrors and crimes against humanity and that they are the racist group not respecting the human principles....
He'd say, "Existence of Islam insult to entire humanity," if he didn't submit his mind to Islam, the piece of....
Existence of Israel is insult to entire humanity...
The word 'Israel' is misspelled...'Islam' is the correct rendition...Should read...'Existence of Islam is insult to entire humanity'...
It's unbelievable. Daily we get such reports from megalomaniacal, psychopathic Muslim leaders preaching Israel's destruction and how Jews are the cause of the world's problems. However, and I can only speak for the Australian media, the newspapers are more concerned with the fact that Israel may have faked some passports to infiltrate Dubai to kill an Islamic terrorist leader from Hamas. Oh, the horror! You'd never think the day would come when the media would be more concerned with a passport forgery than an Islamic leader professing their hatred and destruction of Jews. What happened to "never again"? It's sad to say but it's definitely 1939 again and many people in the West, particularly leaders like Obama, still don't understand who is the real threat and what is causing it all: ISLAM. Nothing else.
Just a footnote: if Zionists (i.e. Jews) were to take over the world, I would much prefer that! I've never had any issues with Jews, they are some of the most fantastic and generous of people I've ever come across. Ahmadinejad is an evil, hateful person who doesn't deserve to see the light of day.
Nukemad, can you say ...PROJECTING?!
Everything he stated is one projection after another ....
1) islam: "is an insult to the entire humanity"
2) islam: "threat, violence and beating drums of war"
3) islam: "is seeking hegemony over the world"
4) islam: "origin of all the wars, genocide, terrors and crimes against humanity and that they are the racist group not respecting the human principles"
Islam produces repulsive leaders aplenty. What other religion does? Whether it is the nutjob President of Iran, Qaddafi in Libya, the corrupt Saudi family, the Assad family in Syria, etc., it remains a hallmark of Islam that it gives the world repugnant heads of state, authoritarians who have no understanding of liberty or tolerance. Islam is a monstrosity all around and one of the ways to measure this is by the character (actually lack thereof) of those who are at the helm of Islamic countries. A dismal record by any sane reckoning.
efoc, I believe you chose the correct word, psychopathic.
As I understand it, psychiatrists these days use the term 'sociopath' instead of psychopath tho.
The sociopath has no regard for the welfare of others and simply uses them to get what he wants. Also, they have the habit of projecting the evil behaviors and acts that they have and commit onto their victims in an attempt to deflect blame away from themselves. This is exactly what Ahmadinejad (almost wrote Imadinnerjacket :-P ) is doing.
It would be good if the Australian government would say something ballsy like "We would gladly give the Mossad a hundred passports to kill terrorists." ... But I know that aint gonna happen.
OT - I would like to thank Robert Spencer and all the others here at Jihad Watch, the writers and the posters, for opening my eyes to the evil of Islam. I may not always agree with you about everything, but I am willing to listen your opinions.
We Support Israel! Go Israel!
down with islam ... down with sharia ...
There's a funny thing about Israeli/Zionist terrorism: apart from a few bombings of civilian areas in Gaza during the Israeli retaliations to their rocket attacks, no one seems to have ever heard of it. The MSM have been doing a fine job of covering up the Islamic connections to lots of terrorist acts, but that's nothing compared to the alleged cover-up of the Israeli connection: that's been virtually flawless. If the NYT reports the Islamic bombing of a Christian school in Pakistan at the bottom of page 32, the equivalent Israeli bombing is never reported at all. Only a few people like Ahmedinajad seem to know anything about it. Which leads to the conclusion that either the MSM conspiracy of silence is absolutely successful, or else Ahmedinajad doesn't know what he's talking about.
"[Ahmedinejad]... said that the Zionist regime is the origin of all the wars, genocide, terrors and crimes against humanity...."
Yeah, they kind of gave the secret away in December, 1941, when the Zionist-controlled Japanese fleet used "Torah, Torah, Torah" as the go-code for the attack on Pearl Harbor. Since then the cover-up has been so complete that only a few adepts like Ahmedinejad have been able to penetrate it. Sure.
From post above...As I understand it, psychiatrists these days use the term 'sociopath' instead of psychopath tho.
A sociopath is still capable of remorse, even if it's just feeling sorry for themselves...A psychopath has zero capacity for remorse...Rasool Obama is a sociopath, Hannibal Lechter, is a psychopath...They are similar, but not interchangeable...
Ahmadinejad is neither...He is a Mahoundian, but the end result is the same...Zero remorse when it comes to killing Jews, or other kufr...he would more nearly qualify for psychopath...it comes with Allah and Mahound worship...
As creative as ever, ever since Mahmoud Amadnutjob (forgive the spelling?) has been the president of Iran he has come up with an incredible array of different ways to kill,insult, demonize, obliterate Etc. the Israelis. No doubt there must be someone who has saved them all on a website.
I'm sure glad everybody knows what you think they know. Most civil people who hear or read these remarks can't help thinking that you are actually talking about your own self Amadnutjob.
"Should read...'Existence of Islam is insult to entire humanity..."
Oh yeah, that's it. Right-O.
Ahmadinejad needs to be put down - he is a stark-raving-mad psychopath, infected by the Hate called Islam.
Wellington - another fab Islamic "leader" - Idi Amin.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lies
When he tells you that Israel tries
To take over the planet;
But don't take him for granet -
That's supposed to be Islam's big prize.
Islam is in many ways a cancer, a tumor on planet Earth that needs to be extirpated and then the Earth exposed
to chemotherapy to prevent its recurrence....
We went down this road before in 1938 and we can recall
the naive counsel given at the time..."We can solve this through negotiations....He is not as bad as he seems..This will all blow over soon..At least he is anti-Communist..The devil you know is better than..."....and so and so forth.
And like Neville Chamberlain and his acoltyes, Obama
and Secretary of Spade Clinton are advising us to essentially give in and accept our fate. Unless we stop Islam and also impeach Obama, we will have corroborated George Santayana's well-known aphorism...again....
I spent most of my life as an agnostic who was not particularly religious, but I am now convinced that Satan
does exist (and perforce God must as well) and its earthly manifestation is Ahmadinejad. I have little doubt now
that there is evil and it is called Islam and its promoters
are denizens of Hell and followers of Satan. I can see no clearer mortal earthly representations of all the well-known metaphors and symbolisms of evil and Satan than Islam.
I have this recurring dream from which I wake up ecstatic
(as if I had been tied down by Nicole Kidman or Naomi Watts)
that Israel has literally decapitated Ahmadinejad and Khamanei and the entire Iranian Fascist thuggery turn on one another in a mass 'orgy' of murder until they are
killed off by one another.
"I am now convinced that Satan does exist ...and its earthly manifestation is Ahmadinejad. I have little doubt now that there is evil and it is called Islam and its promoters are demons of Hell and followers of Satan. I can see no clearer mortal earthly representations of all the well-known metaphors and symbolisms of evil and Satan than Islam."
Agreed, NAKAL!
Swami, I don't think that Obama is a sociopath. Every time I've seen him talking on TV he comes across as an articulate, intelligent, reasonable, rational and decent human being. Why so many people in conservative circles and here on Jihad Watch hate him so much, I can't figure out. (I don't know if you consider yourself a conservative or not either.)
OT - I posted once before about my own views concerning Clinton when he was in office. I thought he was horrible then and had all the same fears I hear voiced now by conservatives about Obama, things like "He's gonna turn America into a Socialist Totalitarian state! . None of my fears came true. America didn't turn into a police state. I was even more worried when Bush was in office and there were secret wiretaps, investigations without warrants, secret overseas prisons, Extraordinary renditions..... hmmmm, trappings of a police state? ... or necessary evils in the War on Terrorism (Islam) ? Ask me again in 5 or 10 years when some of the stuff we didn't know was going on behind the scenes begins to come out and we can make a better judgment.
completely off topic - I'm wondering why when I sign into typepad before coming here, I have to sign in again before commenting. Also, I'm wondering if the admins here have ever considered having a separate forum with multiple discussion threads so some of these conversations could go on longer.
OBAMA IS THE BIGGEST FRAUD TO HAVE EVER SERVED AS POTUS
even exceeding the incompetence of Herbert Hoover, Andrew
Johnson, James Buchanan and Warren Harding. Obama BY FAR
is certainly the WORST President in the last 80 years, INCLUDING NIXON (who actually wasn't that bad even if a psychopath), BUSH (who at least kept us safe, though I was not a big fan of some of his domestic policies) and EVEN JIMMY BOY CARTER, who was a failure but a SINCERE failure (Carter actually believed in his neo-Leftist policies and was not a cynic like Obama).
OBAMA ABSOLUTELY IS A SOCIOPATH, ARROGANT SELF-CENTERED
EGOTISTICAL OPPORTUNISTIC SLIMY SLICK SHUCK AND JIVE
MACHIAVELLIAN CYNICAL SOUTH CHICAGO GHETTO THUG AND
AN INTOLERABLY INCOMPETENT DISGRACE TO THE OFFICE
OF THE PRESIDENCY. THE MAN DOES NOT HAVE ONE ALTRUISTIC
CELL IN HIS BODY EVEN COMPARED TO THE USUAL NON-ALTRUISTIC
NATURE OF POLITICS. I NEVER FELL FOR HIS FALSE 'SUAVENESS'
THE DAY HE ENTERED THE SENATE AND HIS PURPORTED COSMPOLITAN
SOPHISTICATION IS A SHAM AND IT IS ABHORRENT THAT SOME AMERICANS THINK HE IS AN INTELLECTUAL-HE IS A FRAUD.
FDR spoke some French and German and studied Greek and
Latin in school, as did JFK. Nixon was very well read
and asked Kissinger to help him learn some Mandarin
before his trip to China to meet Mao Zedong and Zhou Enlai(whatever one may think of Mao the mass murderer, Nixon's linguistic initiative demonstrates his intellect and sophistication). OBAMA SINCE THE DAY HE WAS BORN HAS PEDDLED
THE NOTION THAT HE IS MULTICULTURAL AND SOPHISTICATED
BECAUSE HE IS LIKE OPIUM-PEOPLE FALL UNDER HIS SPELL DUE TO
HIS SLICK SPEECHMAKING. BUT IT IS A SHAM. WHEN PUSH COMES
TO SHOVE (WE SAW THIS IN EUROPE AND IN CAIRO) HIS FLOWERY
SPEECHES ARE DIRECTED AT HIMSELF TO HEAR HIMSELF SPEAK
AND THERE IS NO SUBSTANCE BEHIND THE 'LOFTY' (MOSTLY PLAGIARIZED) LANGUAGES WHICH WAS BASICALLY MODIFIED
SPEECHES GIVEN IN THE PAST BY WOODROW WILSON AND JFK.
OBAMA COULD NOT EVEN SAY ONE WORD IN FRENCH LIKE 'MERCI'
OR GERMAN LIKE 'DANKE' WHEN HE WAS IN EUROPE BECAUSE HE
IS ALL SHOW WITH NO SUBSTANCE BEHIND THE FLOWERY DIARRHEA.
HIS 'LEADERSHIP' IS THE SAME-ALL SHUCK AND JIVE AND BS
AND NO SUBSTANCE OR IDEAS.
What particularly offends me is that, as an Old-School
believer in intellect and traditional education, Obama
represents the epitome of post-modern Leftist drivel
and the supremacy of the legal profession, money, hubris
and influence peddling over true achievement and intellect.
Truman and Eisenhower may not have been the most bookish
Presidents in the last 80 years, BUT THEY HAD BALLS, WERE
HONEST AS LEADERS AND WERE DECISIVE AND FORWARD-LOOKING WHEN THE COUNTRY NEEDED THEIR LEADERSHIP. WHEN THE USA
NEEDS OBAMA, HE DITHERS AND PARSES LIKE A HARVARD LAWYER
AND HE HAS SPENT MORE TIME ON HIS RE-ELECTION IN 2012
(MARK MY WORDS) FROM THE DAY HE ENTERED THE OVAL OFFICE
IN 2008 THAN HE DID ON RUNNING THE COUNTRY. THE MAN IS
A WALKING DEFINITION OF DISINGENUOUS FRAUD.
OBAMA IS A SHAM....
Mohammedans have really taken the proverb 'Attack is the best defense' to heart.
Whatever crime they are guilty of, and there are many, they defend themselves by accusing others of those same crimes!
They are pathetic barbarians!
Most Australians - of the thinking kind who believe in human rights and democracy, must be laughing at the "telling-off" the Israeli Ambassador got from our government for using our passports.
We should have asked the Israeli ambassador how many more passports he needed to get rid of more vermin, while we nudge, nudge, wink, wink - and profess our innocence and adopt a "we know nothing about any of this and will neither deny or admit anything!"
A rat catcher has to use whatever bait is available, and if it means using our resources, then please accept my offer and send a bundle of self-addressed prepaid envelopes and we can fill them with passports, driver's licenses etc
There should be no obstacle to those who wish to rid the world of genocidal maniacs like Ahmadinejad and the Hezbollah thugs.
Murder is not always wrong. If, if, if someone had just borrowed a passport and knocked off Hitler before he went on his genocidal conquest of Europe.
I agree with you that many statements about Obama are over the top and they actually detract from valid criticism of him. I too don't think he's a sociopath but he certainly has a huge ego and is arguably possessed of more bad ideas than any other President in history. This is not a good combination.
I would also note that Obama and Congress just extended the Patriot Act for another year. And Gitmo is still open. Rendition is still US policy. And so on. Much of the Bush Administration's anti-terror measures, which Democrats, including Obama, severely criticized while Bush was President, have been conveniently kept in place now that Bush is gone. One program Obama did eliminate and that is the CIA interrogation process. This I believe is a big mistake, as Mark Thiessen has eloquently written about in his new book, Courting Disaster. All my comments here are made in a spirit of friendliness and not in a critical vein. Finally, I would agree that, as you mentioned in your first post, it would be great if the Australian government would make that statement about issuing passports for Mossad. Would that every Western government be so bold, but, of course, none will be.
Yes, indeed, darcy. Forgot about that old murderous bastard, Amin. What a monster he was and a convert to Islam no less. Very much doubt he would have been the disgusting leader of Uganda he proved to be had he, say, been a sincere convert to Roman Catholicism or Buddhism. Oh yeah, there's a connection.
MOHAMMED’S WORDS IN THE KORAN(the Koran is a human book) OR
IS THE KORAN 100% ALLAH’S WORD?
http://www.avraidire.eu/2010/02/is-the-koran-100-allahs-word-or-mohammeds/
Israel is th only civilised country in the Middle East, so it is an insult to Islam, no doubt about that. Islam and Nazism are the greatest backward movements in human history.
A lot of co-posters have already mentioned that Islam is an insult to humanity. I'd only like to add that the sight of Ahmadshithead is an insult to my sense and feeling of beauty. He makes me p**e.
http://www.avraidire.eu/2010/03/101-contradictions-in-the-bible-cleaBy: Jay Smith, Alex Chowdhry, Toby Jepson, James Schaeffer
101 CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE CLEARED-UP
“The first to present his case seems right, till another comes forward and questions him.” (Proverbs 18:17)
The Charge of Contradiction
Muslims talk often about the many contradictions in the Bible. The number of contradictions vary depending on whom you are talking to. Kairanvi’s Izhar-ul-Haq presents 119 numbered contradictions, while others such as Shabbir Ally have supposedly found 101 contradictions. The problem as they see it concerns their supposition that any religious book claiming absolute divine authority must not include any contradictions, as a message emanating from an Omniscient being must be consistent with itself.
The Muslims quote from the Qur’an (4:82) which says “do they not consider the Qur’an (with care). Had it been from any other than Allah, they would have found there-in many a discrepancy.”
A Definition of Revelation:
In order to respond to this challenge it is important that we begin by recognizing and understanding clearly the presupposition and thinking that underlies such a challenge. The principle of non-contradiction has been elevated to the status of an absolute criterion, capable of being applied by human beings in judging the authenticity of God’s word
"President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Sunday that existence of the Zionist regime is an insult to the entire humanity."
Can anyone imagine what the Israelis must think with this Thug in Chief nut job making these kinds of threats almost on a daily basis? Assuming that Ahmadinejad actually represents the viewpoint of the Islamic people in charge, then all the Islamic Iranian leaders are nut jobs (and Israel's other Islamic neighbors aren't much better). Its no wonder Israel has the best intelligence agency. With neighbors like that, they need it and we need to remember that as a Judeo-Christian culture, we are joined at the hip with Israel's culture. Israel R us.
Ray...Swami, I don't think that Obama is a sociopath. Every time I've seen him talking on TV he comes across as an articulate, intelligent, reasonable, rational and decent human being.
Most sociopaths and psychopaths are articulate, intelligent and 'sound' reasonable, but they are very seldom 'decent' human beings...Both have dishonesty cultivated to a high art...That's Rasool Obama...You don't have to be a conservative to see this, but it helps...You won't see it if you are infected with liberalism...In fact liberals so infected 'refuse' to see it at all... NAKAL's large type above has it about right...Sounds like you have sipped from Rasool's kool aid cup...If that's a wrong conclusion, please post why it is not...
Obama - narcissist. 'Nuff said.
This is a bit OT, but since you bring up the foreign language abilities of various Presidents, let me add an anecdote I recently heard about Harry Truman. At some dinner or other social function during his presidency, one of the Supreme Court justices made a remark in Latin, but made some grammatical error (the wrong case of a noun, or the wrong verb ending, or some such), and Truman promptly corrected him. Hearing that rather raised my opinion of Truman.
"......I don't think that Obama is a sociopath. Every time I've seen him talking on TV he comes across as an articulate, intelligent, reasonable, rational and decent human being."
So did Ted Bundy.
IS THE KORAN 100% ALLAH’S WORD?
Not likely. Remember the chain of transmission: from the eternal tablets in heaven, via the angel Gabriel, via the prophet Mohammed, via the memories of Mohammed's listeners, decades later. Only then were the verses written down.
As an angel, Gabriel probably got it right. But Mohammed? Well for one thing, he didn't realize (until told later) that on at least one occasion it was Satan, not Gabriel, who was reciting to him. For another there are a number of "in the nick of time" verses giving Mohammed special privileges, like being allowed to marry a daughter-in-law, or make war during a holy period, that look suspiciously like Mohammed adding a few remarks of his own to the "eternal writ". Then there was the writing down of the Koran, decades after Mohammed's death, when only the most widely-remembered verses were accepted and written down, and verses remembered by only a few were discarded. This was clearly a work of human editing.
Finally, there is the opinion of some scholars that Mohammed and the Koran were fictions made up from whole cloth only after the Arab conquests of Persia and much of the Byzantine Empire. Finding themselves ruling over populations that constantly referred to their Holy Books, the Arabs decided to concoct a "Holy Book" of their own, to justify their rule over these peoples.
Wow! I'm glad I found you guys!
I used to think that Islam was OK, it was just the extremists who were evil, but I'm not having much luck identifying 'moderate' Muslims. Mind you, vocal moderate Muslims have low long term survivability.
The rhetoric employed by Amahdinejad and his ilk is totally reminiscent of Hitler: vague, unsubstantiated accusations, global conspiracies, strident appeals to mass hysteria, scapegoating your opponent etc.
My conclusions are:
There are no moderate Muslims.
The Koran is in itself an evil document
Rushdie was right.
But, although we talk indignantly about the politicians, it's more important to consider the social environment in which these politicians exist. If Hitler had died at birth, there would still have been Nazism, WW2, the holocaust, just called something different. Without the treaty of Versailles, the depression and German resentment over War reparations, Hitler would just have been another crank in a funny shirt making incoherent speeches in a bier keller.
What scares me is not Amahdinejad, but the fact that a lot of people seem to find what he says makes sense.
I think EVERYTHING goes back to the Koran. This allegedly spiritual book is a hodgepodge of rationalisations for male violence to women. Period. Islam is not "submission". It is fear, fear of the average Muslim male that a woman might haul herself out of the dungeon he has created for her and turn out to be a better person than he is.
Yaser Said, who murdered his two teenage daughters in 2008 (and has never been caught) was apparently afraid they might have non-Muslim boyfriends, (and he had also been accused of abusing them as children.) No doubt Yaser Said is being sheltered by "moderate Muslims" somewhere in Egypt.
Fear and Paranoia are not new discoveries, neither is hatred (which is driven by fear) and we should remember that hatred is not the unique preserve of Islam. Christianity may have struck the first blow with the Crusades, and the Inquisition, and over several centuries millions of European women were burned as witches. Hitler flourished in the most educated, cultured society in the Christian world. Radical Orthodox Jews have a lot in common with Radical Islamists.
I think it was Tariq Aziz, an old 60s radical, (and a Muslim) who had the theory that the implacable misogyny of Islam has its roots in the custom that young boys are totally under the power of females until they are seven, at which time they become "men" and thus set in authority over the very women who beat them as children. But the women beat the boys to get back at men for the abuse inflicted on them subsequently! A vicious circle.
I think you're correct that the Bamster SEEMS intelligent, reasonable, articulate, decent, etc. That's how he got elected! He seems like a good guy to shoot hoops or play a round of golf or just have a beer with. But there are folks like that everywhere--what we needed was a PRESIDENT!
Forgetting for a moment his overt socialist agenda, rough playmates, hidden past...he's just plain pro-islam! Is there any way that this guy hasn't enabled & supported islam?
He kisses the rings (and backsides) of their tyrants; he falsely flatters them, i.e., his Cairo speech. His administration (with muslim advisers)lies for muslims, apologizes to them, coddles terrorists, dismisses terror-threats, engages in hopeless "outreach" to them, appoints ambassadors to their foul regimes, covers-up for their obviously religiously-driven crimes--and lots more--all in the country he's SWORN TO PROTECT! It beggars belief, I've never seen anything like it!
I think that as POTUS, and a "friend of islam," he's more dangerous than if he were a muslim himself (and I'm not saying he isn't).
As "Mr. Nice Guy," he can talk "reason" and "tolerance" and "acceptance" and "Man-Caused Disaster," etc, etc, and he can make it all sound so credible, so rational, so official. This isn't just "spin;" this is a LIE!
We'll be fortunate as a nation if we can survive another 2 years with this muslim-sypathizer, apologist, enabler, without serious consequences. It will just be another 2 years...won't it??
sorry, I meant Tariq Ali. (see my previous post) Tariq Aziz (the Iraqi one) was an altogether different gentleman!
This is a bit OT, but since you bring up the foreign language abilities of various Presidents, let me add an anecdote I recently heard about Harry Truman. At some dinner or other social function during his presidency, one of the Supreme Court justices made a remark in Latin, but made some grammatical error (the wrong case of a noun, or the wrong verb ending, or some such), and Truman promptly corrected him. Hearing that rather raised my opinion of Truman.
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If anything, I was far far TOO lenient with Obama.
Obama should never have happened. Everything about
this man and his rise from obscurity defines what
ails America-Obama is the metaphor for all superficiality,
disingenuousness, ethnic and global correctness,
utilitarian commercialism married with neo-Leftism
(a uniquely American dichotomy) and the stupidity
of the American electorate. No, it is not that Obama
is the ONLY corrupt, conceited and narcissistic
POTUS (it goes with the territory), it is that
Obama is the SUM TOTAL of all disingenuous and false
aspects of postmodern American society. The fact
that Obama's defenders and acolytes are unable to
see (or choose not to see) what he represents epitomizes
how far America has fallen. That so many Americans
set Obama as the bar for intellectual achievement (the
same Americans who probably never heard of Oliver
Wendell Holmes, one of the greatest American intellects)
is abhorrent. Many Blacks, sad to say, see Obama as a role model and forget the oratory and intelligence of Adam Clayton Powell, Frederick Douglas and George Washington Carver. Their role models are rap singers, athletes and fraudulent POTUS. So, naturally I expect no better from White Americans. Truman was under-rated as a newspaperman,
mayor and, later, POTUS for a long long time (as was
Eisenhower). These men, along with Reagan, JFK, FDR,
Teddy Roosevelt were LEADERS in the full sense of the
word and the fact they came from different parties was
far less important than their leadership skills. Johnson
was much maligned for the Vietnam War which genuinely
bothered him and probably killed him; BUT IT WAS THE
POPULIST JOHNSON WHO RAISED THE STANDARD OF LIVING OF
RURAL AMERICANS NOT FOR NOTOREITY AND NOT FOR GAIN BUT
BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. Obama has not visited
one coal mining town or rural White American who does
not fit his demographic need since he served in the Senate because Obama is a hypocrite. Obama is of the same piece
as Sharpton, Jackson and Farrakhan, just with a Brooks
Brother's suit and a useless Ivy League Law degree.
Even Bush Sr who I find smarmy and a bit WASPY when it comes to Jewish/Israel issues displayed grace when he stepped down and has kept his mouth shut since his last day in office (Obama couldn't keep his mouth shut if his life depended on it). As for the much maligned (some, but not all, deserved) Clinton, I will say this. He put the Democratic Party where it belonged (in the center and not to the Left) and, while not the best POTUS, was certainly more successful in domestic and foreign policy (even when I disagreed with him) than Obama could ever hope to be. Maybe because Clinton is NOT just ego (though god knows it's the size of Manhattan) but is a quick study and is very bright (despite being a lawyer NOT because of being a lawyer). Clinton was about policy making and thinking things through (whether one agreed with his policies or not), Obama is about winning the next election without demonstrating anything to justify why deserved the first one. My view is old-scool. I cross ideological boundaries and look at the package; the package has steadily rotted since Reagan.
Finally, Obama's kowtowing to Third World radical garbage and Islam speaks volumes....
sorry, I meant Tariq Ali. (see my previous post) Tariq Aziz (the Iraqi one) was an altogether different gentleman!
Not to mention the sell-out Tariq Aziz was a Christian
who kissed Sunni ass (SH) and sold out fellow Iraqi Christians for Ba'athist treats.
Spot on about Obama, NAKAL! ...excellent post.
Nakal,
You're so right that Obama makes Clinton--and we could add Carter--look good--even though Big Bill really DID have sex with that woman!
But that was all in the pre-9/11 era. I'm no great fan of GWB, either, but he's the one who said, "9/11 CHANGES THINGS!" Amen...
G
"I'm no great fan of GWB, either, but he's the one who said, '9/11 CHANGES THINGS!' Amen..."
I second that, George :)
You're so right that Obama makes Clinton--and we could add Carter--look good--even though Big Bill really DID have sex with that woman!
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Yeah, but I will take Clinton's TAQIYYAH over Islam's
Taqiyyah any day !
"Radical Orthodox Jews have a lot in common with Radical Islamists..." (see above)
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I seriously beg to differ. Other than Misogyny not much
(how many Hasidic Jews have commandeered planes into buildings lately ?). Hasidic jews are devoted to learning; Jihadis are devoted to killing..there is no comparison. Yes, Hasidic Jews can be intolerant at times; usually it does not become reflected in beheadings, mass murder and terrorism.
hi Ray Gamma. i've always thought of the difference between sociopath and psychopath this way..psychopaths are loud and want attention. they crave attention. they are very unpredictable and succumb to their violent tendecies quickly. they hate their victims. also, they never plan anything before they act. they act on a whim.
sociopaths, on the other hand are very quiet. they dont want anybody knowing anything about them. they plan everything-very precise. they do get off on sending subtle clues, here and there. they like playing games. they also truly believe that they are smarter than anyone else. they believe they will never get caught because they think they are so smart. they also have no emotions. no remorse. i doubt they even hate their victims. its a game to them.
"As I understand it, psychiatrists these days use the term 'sociopath' instead of psychopath tho."-i'm surprized to hear this because they seem so much different to me. the complete opposite, but with the same goals.
yes, i would put the nut job in iran in the psychopath catagory. but on the other hand, i dont like putting muslims in any mental health catagory, because of the religion aspect. they believe that what they say and do is real, mandated by allah. the things they say and do isnt something that snapped in their heads, its what they feel to be true in their hearts.
hi NAKAL. i'm agnostic too. i'd like to stay an agnostic, but...grrrr....the things i've read in the bible about how the world will undergo very dramatic climate changes, how all the nations will be against israel, how there will be a one world religion (i'm thinking it will be islam now, because our governments arent stopping it), how there will be a horrific war (starting in the middle east), i know i'm missing a ton of other revelations that seem to be coming true-its ironic how things will end where they started, the middle east. ....idk, things are adding up.
Hi Champ!
I at least had some sense that GWB & his folks were doing their best to protect their citizens. I never doubted that his intentions were pure, that he loved his country.
Obamanation? I don't know WHAT he is--and that's the way (uh huh, uh huh) he likes it! (uh huh, uh huh!)
Sorry, couldn't resist a little KC and the Sunshine Band there...
Jorge
...you're so funny! :-D
Ok. Some responses to the responses to my posts -
duh_swami said - "A sociopath is still capable of remorse, even if it's just feeling sorry for themselves...A psychopath has zero capacity for remorse...Rasool Obama is a sociopath, Hannibal Lechter, is a psychopath...They are similar, but not interchangeable..."
Joe - {wrote two long descriptions of the difference between Sociopaths and psychopaths}
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~ Well, I'm not psychiatrist, nor have I ever studied psycholgy except in a cursory way, so, what the EXACT definitions of the two terms are, i don't know. As I wrote before, it was my understanding based on what i do know that sociopath was becoming the preferred term among those that study criminal behavior. That's based on the one book I read about the subject of murderers. (can't recall the title right now) I'm not a criminologist either, I was just sharing what I know.
Continuing from that base of knowledge, I don't think that sociopaths do show any remorse. At least not the ones that guy in the book talked about. Whether psychopaths are truly different in behavior from sociopaths, I'll leave to professional psychiatrists and criminologists to decide. As far as I know, they are not.
I'll also say again that I don't think Barack Obama is a sociopath. That's just my opinion. If you guys disagree, fine.
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Wellington - I would also note that Obama and Congress just extended the Patriot Act for another year. And Gitmo is still open. Rendition is still US policy. And so on. Much of the Bush Administration's anti-terror measures, which Democrats, including Obama, severely criticized while Bush was President, have been conveniently kept in place now that Bush is gone. One program Obama did eliminate and that is the CIA interrogation process.
~ It is odd that they haven't changed those things. That was part of the platform he ran on. Why the Democrats chose to repeat the mistake of focusing on changing health care in the first year of a new administration like they did when Clinton was first elected baffles me. I have a hypopthesis about it, but this isn't a health care debate forum, nor do I think that it should be a partisan debate forum. Again, my opinion.
Another opinion I have is that the CIA should NOT torture 'enemy combatants'. I base that on two things. One, John McCain, who was tortured in Vietnam, doesn't think that it's morally right or that it leads to good information. (And he definitely has the moral high ground on the issue.) Two, a book I read by a former CIA agent in which he described capturing an enemy (different conflict), treating him well, and getting better intel out of him than he would have if he tortured him. That author said that it worked much better than torture for getting information.
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Duh_swami said- Most sociopaths and psychopaths are articulate, intelligent and 'sound' reasonable, but they are very seldom 'decent' human beings...Both have dishonesty cultivated to a high art...That's Rasool Obama...You don't have to be a conservative to see this, but it helps...You won't see it if you are infected with liberalism...In fact liberals so infected 'refuse' to see it at all... NAKAL's large type above has it about right...Sounds like you have sipped from Rasool's kool aid cup...If that's a wrong conclusion, please post why it is not...
~ I still disagree that Obama is a sociopath. It's my opinion that he IS a decent man (even Bush said so!) and relatively honest as politicians go. :-P __ I haven't 'sipped the Kool-aid' either. I'm no great supporter of his, but I'm willing to give him a chance. I'm certainly NOT 'infected with liberalism'. If you knew me better, you would know that was true. And I disagree that being conservative helps you to see the truth. When I was more of a Libertarian/Ayn Randian Capitalist I thought I knew all the 'truths' of the world. As I've gotten older I have changed my mind about many things though. It's just an evolution of MY opinions and philosophy about the world. Others have other opinions and beliefs and go down different paths in learning. I'm ok with that. It's always good to read other opinions because it helps to either strengthen your arguments when you have to defend your beliefs, or, if you are open minded like me, you may even change your mind if the other persons argumant is logical enough. When I read others simply ranting about how horrible and evil Obama is, I'm neither swayed nor impressed.
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I said - "......I don't think that Obama is a sociopath. Every time I've seen him talking on TV he comes across as an articulate, intelligent, reasonable, rational and decent human being."
I'm no dhimmi replied - So did Ted Bundy.
~ Really no_dhimmi? You're comparing him to Ted Bundy? You think he's the same as a multiple murderer? Come on bro, that's the kind of hyperbole that gets us nowhere. He's got a good relationship with his wife and he loves his daughters. He comes across as a decent man when you don't have ideological blinders on.
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George said {I'm paraphrasing his response} "Obama kisses the asses of Muslims. He is a Muslim sympathizer." etc.
~ One year ago, I would have agreed with him (Obama) and thought he was following the correct and pragmatic path on this. (Not ass kissing but diplomacy) I thought that perhaps if we gave negotiations with Iran a chance, they would perhaps change course. I'm disappointed that it hasn't worked and that the situation is getting even more dangerous as time goes on.
In the past year I began reading about the Iraq war, the Intelligence field and terrorism. And recently I started reading Jihad Watch. Boy, what an eye opener. My opinion now is that negotiations are futile if we are dealing with an enemy that has this kind of ideology.
Now, has Obama or Hillary ever read this website? Do they think or believe that we face an implacable foe? Probably not. They probably still believe that pragmatism will work. But they are starting to change their opinions. When Hillary was in Pakistan she said to them point blank that she didn't believe that they couldn't find or get bin-Laden or al-Zawahiri. She also seemed pretty pissed off to me. I sometimes think that we would have been better off if she had been elected rather than Obama. She's got balls! :-D :-D
At this point we can hope that they wise up quickly and change their minds. And we can work to change public opinion as Robert is doing. Hope and Change! :-D :-D
{I'd like to ask you all to please not respond to this message in this thread. It's getting rather long and complicated and I do understand your side of it. Also, I'm really not that huge of a supporter of Obama and it's awkward for me to have to keep defending him. If you all want to hate him, go right ahead. But please don't take it out on me. I just don't have the time to keep writing these responses. Thank you. :-) }