We're not talking "interior spiritual struggle," either. "Purported al-Awlaki message calls for jihad against U.S.," by Paula Newton for CNN, March 17:
London, England (CNN) -- American-born Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki is calling for jihad against America, claiming "America is evil" in a new audio message obtained exclusively by CNN.
"With the American invasion of Iraq and continued U.S. aggression against Muslims, I could not reconcile between living in the U.S and being a Muslim, and I eventually came to the conclusion that jihad against America is binding upon myself just as it is binding on every other Muslim," he says in the recording that runs more than 12 minutes.
Al-Awlaki is believed to be hiding out in hills of southern Yemen with the protection of his very powerful family tribe.
CNN could not authenticate the recording as being by al-Awlaki, but sources have told CNN that they believe the voice on the recording is him and that the recording is genuine.
Al-Awlaki's voice in the recording is measured and clear as he takes on the cadence of a preacher. He singles out Muslim Americans for a provocative message:
"To the Muslims in America, I have this to say: How can your conscience allow you to live in peaceful co-existence with a nation that is responsible for the tyranny and crimes committed against your own brother and sisters? How can you have your loyalty to a government that is leading the war against Islam and Muslims?" [...]
I see his point: It's necessary to defend Muslims from being attacked by Americans who are attacking Muslims for attacking Americans.
R&B singer Johnnie Taylor would like to ask Al-Awlaki:
"Who's makin' love to your old lady, While you was out makin' Love?"
Come on, you can't mention a song like that without posting a link for people. From the era long before rap crap when R&B/Soul was actually entertaining.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S7Mk8g97t4
is not an American who declares war on America a traitor?
the traitor Al-Awlaki should be hunted like the others who think waging jihad - in any form - is a righteous enterprise.
"With the American invasion of Iraq and continued U.S. aggression against Muslims, I could not reconcile between living in the U.S and being a Muslim, and I eventually came to the conclusion that jihad against America is binding upon myself just as it is binding on every other Muslim,"
Ah, the grievance de jour. If just the US had not invaded Iraq, if just the US had left the Taliban in peace, if just the US had not soiled Saudi ground with their infidel boots, if just the US would let us murder all the jews, if just the US...oh, forget it. You get the picture.
The truth is Al-Awlaki is not that you had trouble reconciling American actions with your faith, you simply and finally realized that your faith mandated jihad against America regardless of its actions. The actions excuse is just a useful diversion to keep addle-brained westerners confused.
Thanks, Think. Sorry, I must be tired...
So I will declare to Al-Aw... You are an enemy of the state and as such you will suffer the consequences.
What makes you so special and privileged to declare war? You are lost economically, emotionally and spiritually. It is just a matter of time. Keep looking over your shoulder, you never know when one of our drones will take you out.
Don't need to make up any excuse to come a get you. Your cheap and evil god will not protect you.
Big Pete wrote:
Ah, the grievance de jour. If just the US had not invaded Iraq, if just the US had left the Taliban in peace, if just the US had not soiled Saudi ground with their infidel boots, if just the US would let us murder all the jews, if just the US...oh, forget it. You get the picture.
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Oh, and don't forget that Muslims must wage Jihad against the United States because of the terrible "oppression" they have faced here in the wake of 9/11...uh, wait...
Bring it.
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2009/03/get-your-shit-in-one-bag.html
Be strong and of good courage...
There are many things which can be said about this man. "He is a bad Muslim," certainly is not one for he is a very good Muslim. He's the kind of man to bring a twinkle to Mohamd's pedophilic, Jewress-revenge poisoned eye.
Still, I wish we'd leave overseas. That' the one thing I dislike about the Spencer crowd- why must we fight in Iraq and Afghanistan?
These people are barbarians- a million dead Americans and a zillion dollars wasted aren't going to change that. Leave them to their backwardness- let them kill one another and let Allah sort it out.
Why can't Robert see the serious inner-spiritual-struggling going on here? Can't he recognize that Al-Awlaki is a soul in torment over his sins?
I just hope he doesn't convince some fellow spiritual strugglers to blow themselves up and hurt someone...
"...and I eventually came to the conclusion that jihad against America is binding upon myself just as it is binding on every other Muslim," ....
Binding defined: "Imposing or commanding adherence to a commitment, an obligation, or a duty"
Now that's scary when you think that (perhaps) every muslim may "eventually" arrive at this same "conclusion", too. Yeah but we have nothing to worry about, right folks? No, of course not. Hey go back to sleep world ....
Moderate and militant Muslims alike, at some point they turn more and more to the Koran for answers. When they do, they all come to the same conclusion more or less. That conclusion always places them in opposition to us. They become the ultimate opponent that believes that they have a god given right to command or kill us.
Its all right there in the Koran, Hadiths, etc. A little bit of Islam may seem innocent enough but a large dose of Islam is deadly.
"To the Muslims in America, I have this to say: How can your conscience allow you to live in peaceful co-existence with a nation that is responsible for the tyranny and crimes committed against your own brother and sisters? How can you have your loyalty to a government that is leading the war against Islam and Muslims?" [...]
Yes, American Muslims, the US is way too evil for you to live in anymore. Leave, leave, as quickly as you can! There are many reasons why America is haram to Muslims. Women don't have to wear proper slave clothing like good little Muslimahs. Americans like Jews, instead of hating them like the Qur'an instructs. Imagine that! Muslim men cannot beat their wives! Muslimahs have divorced their wive-beating Muslim husbands! That would not fly in any Sharia court that I know of! Speaking of Sharia courts, there aren't any! How can this be!
- Abdullah Bhullah, the wacky mullah
As far as I am concerned, all of ISLAM is a legitimate target of one kind or another, so in that regard he is correct. Imam, mufti, Ayatollah, an ounce or two of lead is the cure for Al-Awlaki and his kind.
I support ALL eforts to drive ISLAM from America and the West.
So we're a "government that is leading the war against Islam and Muslims? [...]" Quick, call Obama and the Pentagon!
During the first half of 2009, while we were using IntenseDebate, a poster here cited a number of very telling passages from a book he was currently reading, a book written by an Anglo-American convert to Islam, one Jeff Lang, called 'Even Angels Ask'.
Here is that posting.
"Jeff Lang is an American Muslim convert. Unlike most Muslims we hear about around here, he's very honest and I believe truthfully working toward a real transformation of Islam into a peaceful ideology. He is accomplishing this in part by steadily analyzing many of the "authentic" hadith and demonstrating that they cannot be true.
"But as Robert has pointed out many times, one can only reform what one admits has a problem, and Lang readily does, in his 1997 book "Even Angels Ask."
"What does Lang have to say about the impact of Islamic jurisprudence?
'A minority of Muslims ... believes that we must remain cognizant of the historical context of Muhammad's actions and sayings and that if we are to apply his example correctly, we must be alert to the many differences that exist between his time and ours... The main assumption behind the stricter approach is that the best and most efficient way to derive moral and spiritual benefit from Muhammad's life example is by imitating him as closely as possible. '(p. 104)'
"Further:
'Almost all Muslim religious leaders ... uphold the classical dar al Islam/dar al harb concept ... *This poses a very difficult personal dilemma for many converts, because it seems to them that to become a Muslim, they are required to become enemies of their own countries.* {my emphasis - dda} (p. 119)
"And Lang writes of his own experience attending a Muslim lecture at an American mosque in the early 80s:
'The second lecture was given by Hisham, *a very bright medical student who had been studying in America for almost two years* {my emphasis - dda]. I liked and respected Hisham very much...
'Hisham spoke that night about a Muslim's duties and responsibilities... His speech was very moving and had been running about an hour when he closed it with the following unexpected and stern remark.
QUOTE "Finally, we must never forget--and this is extremely important--that as Muslims, we are obligated to desire, and when possible to participate in, the overthrow of any non-Islamic government--anywhere in the world--in order to replace it by an Islamic one."
'"Hisham!" I [Lang] interrupted. "Are you implying that Muslim American citizens are to commit themselves to the destruction of the U.S. government?--
That they are to be a fifth column in America--a secret revolutionary group seeking to overthrow the government?
Do you mean that when an American converts to Islam he must commit himself to political treason?!"
'I thought that by presenting Hisham with a very extreme scenario, it would force him to soften or qualify his statement.
'He looked down at the floor as he pondered my question momentarily. Then he looked at me with an expression that reminded me of a doctor about to break the news to his patient that his tumor is malignant.
"Yes," he said. "Yes, that's true." (p. 117).
END OF POSTING.
Reread that. Now think of all the Immigrant Muslims, and Children of Immigrant Muslims, and Enthusiastic Converts to Islam who have been caught plotting murder and mayhem and high treason, in the USA - e.g. Jihad Jane - and in other non-Muslim countries.
Q. E. D.
Further thought. I haven't read Lang's book myself. If anyone else here has done so, then can you tell us whether he actually *names* that mosque, in America, where in the 1990s that oh-so-clever Muslim medical student, 'Hisham' (and I wonder where *he* is today? still in the USA? waging jihad somewhere?) dropped the taqiyya for once and told Lang straight out that Islam essentially demands that any convert must commit high treason against his government and nation of origin.