Anjem Choudary: "Islam does not mean peace. Islam means submission."

Mohammed said 'I have been made victorious with terror', and Mohammed is the Perfect Man and role model for all Muslims: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/islam-terrorism.html

Denial of this essential fact about Islam is taqiyya to dupe the gullible kuffars.

We should really thank Choudary. He puts the case simply and straightforwardly, the case that Islam is an ideology, not just a religion, that it is inherently violent, that violence is explicitly and repeatedly in the Koran and other teachings of Islam and that all this is "hard to refute". indeed.
But whereas w are "Islamophobes" when we say this, Choudary is a pious Muslim. So he can't be an "islamophobe". So, we should thank him. We should point all the doubters, all the "Islam is a ROP"-types to this interview. It says it all.

http://newstime.co.nz/2010/koran-declaration-of-open-ended-war-against-the-infidels.html
"The Koran is a declaration of open-ended war against the infidels” (kafirs … better kuffar, extreme degraded word for unbelievers)

Ali Sina "... If you think Islamic terrorism is a new phenomenon, THINK AGAIN. Islam owes its success to terrorism. The prophet of Islam boasted, "I have been made victorious with terror" Sahih (correct, authentic) Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220

http://newstime.co.nz/2010/dawa-in-frankfurt.html
“Making an Invitation to Islam”
Islam doesn’t come from the word “salaam” meaning peace. It comes from “aslama” meaning submission, which is a way more negative and derogatory word.

“Muhammad was the First Nazi SS Man”
NEVER SUBMIT!!!

I'm with Meeker. I've been saying for awhile now that Choudary is God's gift to the War On Islam. He's the best/worst advertisement there could possibly for disseminating the truth.

Again, I submit (pun intended) that he could be an agent of the gov't or church charged with riling everyone up. It wouldn't surprise me.

The World's Deadliest Book - The Koran.
Mr. Spencer's "The Complete Infidel's Guide to the Koran" should be required reading to understand that only in Islam, are rape, child marriage and divorce, amputations, lying, beheadings, terrorism, etc., etc. not only allowed, but often required.

Dog Lovers Rejoice - Man's Best Friend Making Fun of Mohammed and Muslims
/WARNING: Monitor Spray Alert - DO NOT read while drinking.

At least you know with whom you have to do...

Many Muslims' problem today (and so it was always, most probably) they do not know about their own religion. Just the same way that they do not know about other religions too. They think that all religions teach the same violent things their own religion teaches and that the issue is who will defeat the others. When they hear a criticism towards their religion they perceive it as a criticism towards their race or ethnic identity, as something threatening their very biological existence, somehow.

But... how to learn such a massive amount of things as those written in Koran, Hadiths and Sira? And all the following commentaries from the law makers of madrasas, the methods of 'overcoming' the contradictions in the texts and taqiyya like meanings' subtleties. You have to know Arabic too for having a genuing knowledge of them. That's to say the whole thing has nothing to do with reading a so easily readable, tiny text, written with Divine simplicity as is a gospel of Matthew, for example, so that you may touch the core teachings of Christianity, not having to know Aramaic, Greek or Latin.

One of the main problems, indeed, is how the Muslims themselves will learn about their own belief, so that they may understand the reason their belief is criticized.

Anjem Choudary is a guy who needs to be respected. He has really stood up for his beliefs and speaks without any fear which in turn speaks volumes about Dhimmis.

Here is in fact, islam's weakness, this is the 'counter stealth-jihad'.
Moderate muslims can say what they will, they'll lose any debate with Choudary. What he does in public, moderate are doing in secret.

Here's the point: You can't dismiss Choudary as 'un-islamic', 'misunderstander' or anything like that. He makes a solid and grounded case. In fact, what he say in English, the muslim world have been saying in Arabic for years.

The ball is now in the hands of the 'moderate', 'peaceful' muslim, to debate Choudary; a debate the moderate cannot win.

With Wilders, what should have happened is that islam would be put on the stand. But the whole trial is a fixed mockery.

Sooner or later, a case will be made, just like any criminal court case, where light will be shed, and facts will be presented. This site alone, holds quite an archive. There is more then enough evident to show that 'pure' islam engraved with jihad, is no different then Nazism or Communism and that is it a dangerous ideology that should be seen for what it is.

The Obama administration has released a review of its strategy in the war on terrorism. The report failed to even mention the word "Islam."

I said this out here a long time ago, and I am still sticking to my guns.

Remember the famous "57 states speech"?

Obambi was reading the ketchup label, and got whisked off to a campaign speech WITH NO TELEPROMPTER.

Well, so far, In the "War on Terror" he has been performing marginally UNDER what I would expect from a sack of hammers.

From the article:
"You can't say that Islam is a religion of peace,"..........There is a place for violence in Islam."

A useful idiot for the infidel camp ??

It's good this idiot hasn't been silenced. The more he spouts off the more he makes others aware of their agenda.

Islam the face of evil. Seig heil the fourth Reich.

"The Obama administration has released a review of its strategy in the war on terrorism. The report failed to even mention the word "Islam."

That is so sickening.

Can someone e-mail the above thread to the Hussein administration? Hussein would, of course, counter that Choudary is "misunderstanding" Islam.

I have come to hate that word. For me it has come to mean excuses for and lying about Islam.

In the UK the MSM are already wetting themselves with praise for the fatwa. They are failing to see that it is just the latest in a line of previous obfuscations to deceive the gullible kufr.

In the comments colums and blogs of the newspapers, those educated in the ways of JW are pouring in with comments. For example, in the The Times, one comment stated the following:

"The fatwa will be welcomed by numerous groups but for different reasons:

1) Islamic supremacists will welcome it because it deludes non-Muslims while they proceed with their infiltration and proceed towards Muslim dominance and Sharia.

2) The ubiquitous "Islamic scholars" and "community leaders" plus Islam's apologists will support it for the same reasons as the supremacists.

3) The gullible politicians and media will support it because they are unable or unwilling to recognise the reality of the situation.

If Dr Muhammed Tahir ul-Qadri issued this fatwa in a Muslim country it would be torn to shreds in seconds by another "esteemed Islamic scholar" with copious references to the Qur'an. For them, Dr Muhammed Tahir ul-Qadri would also be viewed as an "apostate" and hence subject to immediate murder by any "believing" Muslim. No doubt the notoriously sensitive "Muslim youth" could quckly be instructed to be "offended" and initiate a campaign of "outrage" throughout the world.

All it needs is for the MSM and politicians to wake up to these realities. They are being told enough times by enough people but appear blind to it.

Geert Wilders should try to get this guy as a witness in his trial. Maybe he can use the videos.

Someone should make a video juxtaposing Choudary's interview statements with the gushing, naive pronouncements about ROP by our presidents, both present and past, and other public figures.

Straight from the horse's mouth........

Or perhaps another orifice.......

I wish their were more Anjem Choudarys. Then it would not be so hard to convince our PC MC masses that "Yes, Virginia, there is a Jihad". Yes, every Muslim wants to kill, rape and loot kuffar countries. Yes, the Qur'an is full of hate for the infidel. Yes, Islam is a loaded gun pointed at the head of every unbeliever on the planet.

1. He is supporting Geert.
2. He is forthright.
3. He explains that Islam = jihad.
4. He is the person you want as your adversary since you know where he is coming from. Sadly, he does not receive enough exposure.
5. Perhaps the email button could be changed from "submit" to "Islam" or "send."

Marisol said:

"He can go on talking about terrorism all he wants, and Choudary and his ilk will keep talking about armed jihad and quoting chapter and verse, and never the twain shall meet."

And that's the bottom line, in my opinion. The whole idea of whether the "moderates" are sincere or deceitful--it's completely irrelevent. What's clear is that there is no serious fault line between Islamic "moderates" and "extremists" to the degree that one is actually going to fight the other. There's no civil wars going on within Islam where a "liberal" Islam is one of the parties. The so-called moderates accept the existence of the extremist facet of Islam, and the extremists accept the moderates, both to the degree that they serve Islam. Occasionally, a "moderate" will make some vague pronouncement against "terrorism", and occasionally an "extremist" will chastise the moderates for not being true Muslims, but that's as far as it goes. Neither group is likely to side with a non-Muslim against the other. A serious, violent divide between the moderates and the extremists within Islam exists only in the imaginations of naive Westerners. Thus, this is the deal you get when any country has a sizeable Muslim population.

Finally someone who calls a spade a spade. No taqiyya involved. Choudary tells us what we've got to do either submit under the yoke of Islam or perish. And all acts of terrorism are justified by the Qu'ran. What a nice and reassuring book. He even admits that Islam is an ideology that you die for. Islam is the old revived Nazism. Instead of the swastika Mohammedans have got their crescent. Nothing new under the sun.

Anyone know if, and how, this clip can be downloaded? I tried to grab it with Orbit but it doesn't work.

Seeing the messages here I can not keep myself from laughing... Islam makes you feel sympathy even to the one who says openly 'I want to kill you' :-)))

Islam is this creep's whole life.

The more islam you have, the more depraved and deluded you are.

allah = satan

Choudary knows full well that Islam has Europe in the bag and that now it's just a matter of time before Islam can take the reins. He no longer feels any need to hide the truth. With the European armies, the ruling elites, and even the United States Army providing support to keep the mostly disarmed natives from revolting, Islam can't not lose. While there are some countries like Switzerland and Denmark where a substantial number of people are capable of fighting, they would be surrounded by hostile Muslim countries and they too will fall.
Should the natives actually wake up in time and fight and throw out the Muslims, the currently ruling elites should be shown no mercy. I myself don't there will be any "electoral-" or "non-electoral discontinuity at all. Rather it will be like an object crossing the event horizon of an extremely large black hole: nothing special happens, but once crossed, impossible to go back. Europe will simply slide into full Islamization. Good-bye, 'twas good to know ya...

Choudary explaining that only muslims can be innocent. So when muslims protest that innocent people should not be killed, they are only refering to muslims. Non-muslims are never innocent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uflQPa9iN-g

Anyone who rejects allah is guilty of a crime. That is in the quran.

Will the Islamophobia never end?

Oh Choudary, list the ways: "You can't say that Islam is a religion of peace," Choudary told CBN News. "Because Islam does not mean peace. Islam means submission. So the Muslim is one who submits. There is a place for violence in Islam. There is a place for jihad in Islam."

Islam = submission - as in slavery, surrender, servility, zombiism, irrationality, superstition, mass-hysteria, pedophelia, rape, wife-beating, deceits, groveling, putrid-fear.

Islam = Jihad - as in violence, hostage-taking, enslavement, rape, looting, suicide-murder, genocide, deceits, cowardice, drug-trade, fraud, terrorism, madness.

Islamic Jihad = amorality - anti-everything we of the civilized world stand for, anti-human rights, anti-freedom, anti-decent humanity. Anti-Life and anti-God.

Yes, Choudary, you must be some sort of Islamophobe! Your Koran and ideology is "more than just a religion". Your Islam is the ENEMY to all humanity. Be damned.

I can't watch the video because I can't stand this bloke .
I don't think he's a real islamist - he's a chancer who's seen an opportunity to be famous and make some money at the same time - and he doesn't care how he does it .

Another reason for him doing what he does ?
Because the government do NOTHING and he gets away with it .

Islam doesn’t come from the word “salaam” meaning peace. It comes from “aslama” meaning submission.

"Surrender" is the other translation.

But either way, the word is meant in the active voice (as in "you surrender") and not in the passive voice (as in "we surrender"). Moslem activists would argue that they have surrendered to Allah, which is true, but keep silent on the fact that they surrendered themselves to a belief system of hate and war on those who have yet to fully surrender.

Choudary is the point-man in a figure-and-ground scam, a diversion. As the 'figure,' he draws the attention to himself, takes one for the team. He's so luminescent that the 'ground,' the legions of so-called 'moderate muslims,' standing behind him in the picture, disappear. "Over here, I'm the bad-guy, look at me!"
As the resident 'extreme muslim,' he makes the 'moderates' look good. And they just haul-out their shopworn denials; "Of course we don't support this guy! Everybody can see he's a nutjob, right? Noooo, he doesn't represent us, he misunderstands the Qoran!" People want so much to believe that--so they take it hook, line & sinker.

Britons beware: Chaudary is way too visible to be a threat to anyone but himself. He wants to take your eyes off the ball. It's those 'moderate' muslims he's covering-for, gnawing away at the vitals of your culture--every day, like water torture--they're the ones who'll steal your country like a thief in the night...

Anyone seen Pat Condell's Thank God for Anjem Choudary video? The way Condell puts how Choudary shows us what true mahoundianism is, as opposed to what Tony and Cherie Blair, Buraq Hussein Obama, George W. Bush, Tariq Ramadan and other such dhimmis/masters of taqqiya would rather have us believe it is, couldn't get anymore spot on... Just as most of Condell's commentary on mohammedanism.

Like the Bible says, "you know them by their fruit."

PS It use to be easy to send this to a friend's email but now it is a hassle. I use a college computer and it asks for a pass code which leads nowhere for me. Please go back to the old way webmaster.

An asshole to be sure, but an honest asshole. I do prefer Muslims without any taqiyya. Straight, no chaser.

Yeah, like Hesperado and George say; Choudary is playing some kind of sinister game, in concert with "moderate" "representatives" of the majority of Muslims. He sacrifices himself in that he sets himself up to be very much hated and ridiculed.

And precisely because he is so open about a coup d'etat, (because he talks about the very abolishment of democracy, in the UK!) political correct people argue he can't be seriously giving away real Islamic plans. Because they argue, if these plans were real, they would be very covert, not overt. So; whatever the most and most important Muslims want with the world, these plans can no longer be it!

And we are all tempted and meant to conclude this. We are meant to think: "Oh, this is only what a lunatic fringe in Islam wants, it has nothing to do with the ambitions and potential for a coup d' etat of the majority of Muslims."

And it comes at this time, because now these (all to real in my opinion) Islamic plans are already known by knowledgeable, Islam-expert people who warn society about them and now that this warning is already spreading far and wide.

So what has Islam got to lose with what Anjem Choudary is saying? If anything he gives Political-Correct, "savvy" people the opportunity to say; "Ah, look the Islamophobes are cheering up because of Choudary, because he confirms their worst fears". Then: "Ah, but of course, if many and important Muslims would really want what Choudary says, then Choudary would not tell that tot the world, so once again the Islamophobes are wrong" (chuckling).

I swear that's what I would hear talking to most people around me! If they would not shush me for talking about "Islam-bashing" as they simply see all things Islam-critical.

This man is honest, I like that. I think he should stand on a podium and keep talking. His speeches should be televised. He is most instructive, something the unsuspecting unbelievers need, honest instruction about the core teachings of Islam.

He's a teachable moment.

None of my comments seems to forward.

Nevermind. It took a moment. Sorry.

this guy has no idea what he's talking about. he has absolutely NO Islamic knowledge. Don't just believe somebody you see on T.V. he could be paid to say all that crap