Egyptian Islamic cleric: "The Jews are behind the misery, the hardship, the usury, the whorehouses, and any form of corruption that is spread in the land"

"Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews..." -- Qur'an 5:82

"Egyptian Cleric Ahmad 'Eid Mihna: The Jews Are Behind Misery, Hardship, Usury, and Whorehouses," from MEMRITV, January 10 (just posted):

The following are excerpts from an address delivered by Egyptian cleric Ahmad 'Eid Mihna, which aired on Al-Shabab TV (Egypt) on January 10, 2010

Ahmad 'Eid Mihna: The Jews are behind the misery, the hardship, the usury, the whorehouses, and any form of corruption that is spread in the land. In the battle of Al-Ahzab [627 CE], the [attackers] were seemingly Arab - the Quraysh and Ghatafan tribes.

However, the main planners of this raid were Jews. The main financers of this raid were Jews. The main ideologists behind this raid were Jews. One can see that hatred and jealousy of the Prophet Muhammad were manifest in the Jews from the day the Prophet was born, and did not begin with the Battle of Al-Ahzab.

Some people think that the enmity between Islam and Judaism began with the emigration of the Prophet Muhammad to Al-Madina. This is not true. The black history of the Jews proves that they are against any reform effort in the world. That's what the history of the Jews proves, and the Battle of Al-Ahzab fits the pattern.

The history of the Jews shows that they are against any reform movement in the world. Any reformer, Muslim or not, will be attacked by the Jews. The Jews are like that. They thrive only on civil strife, on the selling of arms, on usury, on whorehouses, and so on. [...]

When the Prophet Muhammad reached Al-Madina, all the Jews felt their control of the city was quaking. Why? Because they used to exploit the naivete of the Arabs. They would entice them with money - usury and all that -and with the selling of arms. Thus, the two brothers - the Aws and the Khazraj tribes - fought between themselves, to the benefit of the Jews who sold them arms and practiced usury.

Allah be praised. Jews will be Jews-everywhere and always. Their innate characteristics include lying, deceiving, the practice of usury, and the selling of arms. Even when it comes to our brothers in Hamas - may Allah grant them victory - their number one source of weapons is the Jews. They buy weapons from Jewish traitors.

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Are there any Jews left in any of the "Arab" lands? Is the corruption in Egypt, a corruption that one sees in almost all the Arab lands, where the rulers help themselves to a large chunk of the nation's wealth (no one, of course, can outdo the Al-Saud in that competition, and there is not a single Jew living in Saudi Arabia), the result of non-existent Jews? Is the poverty of ordinary Egyptians, a poverty that is also experienced by a great many people in the Arab-populated and Arab-dominated lands, to be attributed to Jews who do not live in those countries? Is the Arab mistreatment of all non-Arabs -- Kurds, Berbers, black Africans in the Sudan, Copts, Assyrians, Chaldeans, Maronites, and others -- to be attributed to the non-existent Jews? Is the despotism of Arab lands attributable to Jews, or to an ideology, Islam, that insists on blind obedience, to Islam, to the example of Muhammad, to the clerics who issue the fatwas, to the rulers as long as the rulers are Muslims? Is the economic underdevelopment that even the thirteen trillion dollars received by the Arab and Muslim states as oil (and gas) revenues, since 1973 alone, due to the hatred of bid'a, the inshallah-fatalism, and the despotic control of all economic activity by the governments of the region (itself a reflection of that Islam-promoted despotism) the responsibility of non-existent Jews, or of Islam, Islam, Islam?

I could, you could, anyone could go on. There's no need. When a sufficient number of non-Muslims grasp all the ways that Islam explains the impoverishment and wretchedness of Arab (and many non-Arab Muslim states, and the more they wish to mimic the Arabs, the more likely the people of those states will have to endure similarly wretched polities), and cease to think that they owe the Arabs and Muslims anything, and when the Arabs and Muslims themselves become aware of what we understand, and they show themselves completely unable to rebut what we have concluded, and some of them indeed echo what we say, embarrassedly no doubt but also unavoidably, then the Camp of Islam will be on the defensive, as it should be, so we, especially in the advanced West, can reduce the threat from Muslims and Islam to manageable proportions, and stop squandering so much time, so much money, so much weaponry, so much everything, on a matter that reallly can be handled, if the foolish in our governments are ignored, and the well-informed and cunning brought in.

So all those whorehouses in Pakistan are flourishing thanks to the Jews. And all those Muslim countries in Africa and Asia are mired in poverty and ignorance due to the Jews.

And no doubt that all the modern medicines, science, technology and techniques that are saving lives and improving the quality of life all around the world is the unique handiwork of Islam!

"Egyptian Islamic cleric: "The Jews are behind the misery, the hardship, the usury, the whorehouses, and any form of corruption that is spread in the land"

Projection, projection projection..
islam is at war with the West, I'm at war with islam and with any adherent to it's creed.
I only moderatly fight the moderates and my reaction to the "extremests" is of course pretty extreme.
Boycot anyone and anything that has to do with islam, a moderate response, neutralize all others.

To add another example of how the imaginary Jews mentioned by Hugh keep "wreaking havoc" on the lives of those poor, flawless, honest and perfect "troo beeleevares™" in Dar al-Mahoundianism, here's an unforgettable excerpt of Ayaan Hirsi Ali's Infidel:

In Saudi Arabia, everything bad was the fault of the Jews. When the air conditioner broke or suddenly the tap stopped running, the Saudi women next door used to say the Jews did it. The children next door were taught to pray for the health of their parents and the destruction of the Jews. Later, when we went to school, our teachers lamented at length all the evil things Jews had done and planned to do against Muslims. When they were gossiping, the women next door used to say, "She's ugly, she's disobedient, she's a whore--she's sleeping with a Jew." Jews were like djinns, I decided. I had never met a Jew. (Neither had these Saudis.)

The only part of the book that beats this one in terms of exposing the inherently disordered, distorted, sick, stupid and ignorant nature of the mahoundian mind is the one about the Saudis' reaction to the lunar eclipse that took place on October 16, 1978. For those of you who haven't read the book, you simply don't know what you're missing...

It is so good that the world is informed about this blatant racism on Egyptian TV. In a larger context it is in the media in the countries of the OIC, where the Ummah has majority and power.

This is more ammunition in our discussions with Western Muslims and so called fair minded but ignorant Western Multi-culturalists. Who myopically only want to look at their own countries and defend Islam based on what Muslims there do and do not do, compared with the Westerners there.

Muslims and Multi-Culturists want to have it both ways:
A. They protest heavily against any suggestion that Islam/ Islamic countries are backward, insisting that all cultures are to be equally appreciated, despite being different.
B. But when the consequence of that attitude is to take what the Islamic culture, Muslims, do in their own habitat, then they come up with: "Give them time, they will develop. You can't compare what happens there with what happens here. And: Oh, but since the Westerners are democratic and advanced, precisely because of that we primarily or even only focus on criticizing the Westerners."

It is time more and more Westerners and Western Muslims themselves hold Muslims accountable for what is said and done in the name of Islam worldwide, just as much as they would hold Westerners accountable for the same thing.

Imagine a rabbi or pastor saying on TV saying the same things about Muslims or Arabs (because the imam does not distinguish between faith and race either) as the imam says about Jews? How the PC MC people would come howling after the rabbi/ pastor. But we must have single standards worldwide!

The alternative for Muslims and PC MC's is to admit that Islamic countries is backward! but that would be bad publicity for Islam's effectiveness and truth about it being Gods literal word! It would even give God a bad name!

When the muhammadans roit it looks like this? Look at the innocent han chinese people being beaten and stoned to death by the muslim roiters in the roits that shook Urumqi, Xinjiang, China during july 2009.Uygur mobs killed hundreds of Han Chinese. This is what happens as they get stronger in any place. Watch the women also participating in jihad(inner struggle-PC MC BS).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhut391FPBY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQZVY7wDxYE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOmNZVda2ek&feature=related

"Even when it comes to our brothers in Hamas - may Allah grant them victory - their number one source of weapons is the Jews. They buy weapons from Jewish traitors."

This comment leaves me so boggled.

So the Jews sell weapons to those who want to destroy them. Yeah, that's smart.

The indescribable and maniacal idiocy that Islam has produced so consistently over thirteen centuries seems to know no bounds.

Yes, I've read 'Infidel' too and I know exactly what you mean.

Here's something else of Ayaan's - from a speech she gave to a group of Jews, on May 4 2006.

I find it almost unbearably moving.

"I have a confession to make.

"If you are Jewish, I used to hate you.

"I hated you because I thought you were responsible for the war which took my father from me for so long...

"When we had no water, I thought you closed the tap...

'If my mother was unkind to me, I knew you were definitely behind it.

'If and when I failed an exam, I knew it was your fault.

'You are by nature evil, you had evil powers and you used them to evil ends' {in this she is restating what, as a Muslim child, she was taught to believe about Jews - dda}.

'Learning to hate you was easy.

'Unlearning it was difficult."

Reproduced in the 'Introductory Quotes' of Andrew Bostom's 'Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism'.

efoc - the more I reflect on this stuff, the more I am put in mind of what Virgil says to Dante as they enter the Inferno:

"We've reached the place I told thee to expect
where thou shouldst see the miserable race
those who have lost the good of intellect".

Noi siam venuti al loco ov'io t'ho detto
che tu vedrai le genti dolorose
c'hanno perduto il ben dell'intelletto". Inferno III.16-18.

Father, I cannot tell a lie, the Jews did it!

Renowned Egyptologist Dr. Zahi Hawass, like every Mohammedan, becomes a loon when it comes to Jews, Israel: ‘The Jews Went to America and Took Control of its Economy… They Have a Plan…

They Control the Entire World’-MEMRI

http://sheikyermami.com/2010/03/12/ahmadinejad-with-gods-grace-israel-will-be-annihilated/

DDA, that is honestly one of the best quotes I've ever come across. Thank you for providing it.

Some days when I read such things from Islamic clerics I think I've entered the Twilight Zone.

That Ayaan Hirsi Ali quote has remained in my mind as well when I first came across it in Bostom's compendium. I've read both her books. A passage from 'Infidel' has been permanently earmarked from when I first read the book several years ago (I believe you've quoted this before on Jihad Watch):

"In Saudi Arabia, everything bad was the fault of the Jews. When the air conditioner broke or suddenly the tap stopped running, the Saudi women next door used to say the Jews did it. The children next door were taught to pray for the health of their parents and the destruction of the Jews. Later, when we went to school, our teachers lamented at length all the evil things Jews had done and planned to do against Muslims. When they were gossiping, the women next door used to say, "She's ugly, she's disobedient, she's a whore - she's sleeping with a Jew." Jews were like djinns, I decided. I had never met a Jew. (Neither had these Saudis.)"

There's more Jew hatred in the Koran than in Mein Kampf and yet nobody cares.

I understand you're an Aussie. If so, please feel free to email me. Robert/Hugh/Marisol, I allow you to give DDA my email if DDA requests it from you.

DDA, thank you for sharing that... I had no idea that she had said that. That's one quote which should be shown to more and more people indeed. If we think about how many ignorant souls that might be indifferent to the need to engage in counter-jihad and defend the West, those who might think that A-rab-mahoundian hatred of Jews is solely about Israel not giving up its right to exist so that the "Fakestinians" can create another Yemen where the Jewish state lies, but who would otherwise open their eyes if confronted with what this is really all about.

Learning about the fact that anti-Semitism has been an informal pillar of mahoundianism since Mein Qurampf was put together by inbred bedouin savages that decided that, instead of raiding each other's villages and caravans, should take their murderous and intolerant desert barbarism to lands which until then hadn't been laid to waste by their utterly destructive ideology could be quite an eye-opener for many out there...

That's Islam's followers for ya....always blaming someone else for their failures and miseries.

So much for laws against racism in Egypt.

Plllleeeeeaaaaaaaasssssssssseeeeeeeee!
The Jews and the Arabs have been hating and killing each other for thousands of years.
There is one God of us all. Each of us shall stand before Him someday and give an account of everything we have said and done while on this earth. Yes, there is a Great Day coming!
Jesus taught us to love even our enemies. Put away the hatred within your heart. Seek only those things that will bring joy and peace to your heart. We are all God's children.

He forget that the Joooos also wiped out the dinosaurs.

The bomfoggery [brotherhood of Man, fatherhood of Man, so now we can all go home] expressed in the post just above is just a tad bit forgetful. We may all be god's chillun in some sense, but some of god's chillun have been mass-murdering in the southern Sudan for three decades, some of god's chillun the other day slit the throats of 500 sleeping people in Nigeria, some of god's chillun blew up 450 Yazidis in northern Iraq, some of god's chillun killed 20,000 Polish officers at Katyn, some of god's chillun raped and killed throughout Manchukuo, some of god's children put up Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belzec, and a dozen other similar industrial-strength killing factories, while in the fields of Russia and Eastern Europe, the Einsatzgruppen with their petroleum-soaked pits, and their portable gas-chambers, had a high old time.

Bomfoggery can be held up as an ideal -- yes, wouldn't it be nice to always and everywhere do nothing but utter hopeful pieties, but it should never be, and really never has been, the basis of policy, not when there are real murderers afoot, or those who would really enslave vast numbers of people, as a permanent underclass, subject to humiliation, degradation, and physical insecurity, as mandated by the Shari'a and as carried out -- see 1350 years of history -- because those people, like you, like me, and just possibly (hard to tell about him) the writer of that posting above, are not Muslims, but Infidels.

When others offer the consolations of bomfoggery, take it in, see what in practice it might mean or might lead to if practiced unilaterally (and that's the problem, isn't it: the unilateral nature of its practice), but never let it get in the way of realism and common sense, and in dealing these days with mass-murderers, common sense may demand bombs away.

And as for Justin's little "the Jews and the Arabs have been killing each for for thousands of years" -- such a statement contributes nothing to understanding the Lesser Jihad waged against the State of Israel, and is merely an expression of unwillingness to learn a bit of history and a bit about Islam. The Muslim Arabs have been killing non-Muslims (first Jews and Arabs in the Hijaz, then many other peoples as Islam's adherents managed to rapidly expand its domain) as a way of spreading Islam, whenever and wherever they were opposed. Jews have not "been killing Arabs" for thousands of years, and before Islam arrived, the Arabs (in Arabia), may have engaged in the usual raiding that characterized pre-Islamic societies, but there was no special animus, no ideology behind the raids that justified them, and promoted other raids, on other non-Muslims.

That kind of simple-minded remark ignores what happened to Christians in both the Middle East and North Africa, what happened to Zoroastrians in Iran, what happened to Hindus and Buddhists (and other non-Muslims) in India; it reduces the Jihad, against all non-Muslims, to some kind of tedious frustrating and, by implication, though the same poster would have you believe he is deeply interested in the welfare of humanity, a true devotee of Jesus Christ, when what he is really doing is misstating history in order to convey his underlying message: "A plague on both their houses" -- because those "Jews and Arabs [who] have been killing each other for thousands [sic] of years" which is an utterly false, and dangerous way, not only to misrpresent the history of aggressive and violent Islam, the "gift of the Arabs," and for the Arabs too, one might add, because Islam is a natural vehicle for Arab supremacism. And we know what "a plague on both their houses," even if embedded within, and camouflaged by, that bomfoggery at the beginning, is really a death sentence for Israel, surrounded as it is by Arab enemies who outnumber it 50 to 1 (if we count only the population of the states of the Arab League, and ignore Muslims elsewhere), with the stupendous oil revenues that keep, keep, keep on coming, and buy arms and armies of Western hirelings to spread propaganda of every kind. Including that which exploits those who are content to turn away from serious analysis of what goes in the world -- the real world, not the ideal world -- and instead suggest that we all take refuge in, let's face it, nothing but soothing bomfoggery.

Two words...Paranoid schizophrenic...

A common phenomena among submitters...The name of this sub paranoid psychosis is Allahphrenia...it's symptoms include a form of Tourette Syndrome...Sudden outburst of Jew hatred...
Ahmadinejad has a severe case and so does Ahmad 'Eid Mihna...But they are not alone, they are rampant in all the ummah and among some ignorant kufr...Once someone has been infected with Jew hatred, it's very hard to bring them back
to mental stability...About all you can do is make sure these
infected people don't get weaponized...As in Iran...

Damnit, those rascally Jews! They are everywhere! How can we, the 1.2 billion members of the Religion of Peace (tm), ever live in peace when we face the constant threat and repression from those 13 million Jews. This is unbearable! Hell they are responsible for everything negative that has ever happened on this planet, from the meteor that slammed into the planet 65 million years ago causing the extinction of the dinosaurs (or was it Bush?)..I digress..to the recent Toyota recalls. They are menace! (sarcasm of).

Damnit, those rascally Jews! They are everywhere! How can we, the 1.2 billion members of the Religion of Peace (tm), ever live in peace when we face the constant threat and repression from those 13 million Jews. This is unbearable! Hell they are responsible for everything negative that has ever happened on this planet, from the meteor that slammed into the planet 65 million years ago causing the extinction of the dinosaurs (or was it Bush?)..I digress..to the recent Toyota recalls. They are menace! (sarcasm off).

I am 62 and not very bright..I have heard all this anti-jewish stuff all my life. Can someone give me a short 101 course on why such a large percentage of humans have a problem with someone simply because of a different belief ideology??

Is there an incident in History where the Jews tried to eliminate everyone else or something to that nature?

The dinosaurs had it coming.

LIE:

"The Jews are behind the misery, the hardship, the usury, the whorehouses, and any form of corruption that is spread in the land"

Wow, islamic clerics lie with such ease and impunity, don't they? That's because lying is allah & kookran approved.

'nuff said ....

Sounds Pretty Stupid doesn't it? But look at the slick stuff they have on YouTube - they really really are "outwitting" us. I never would have believed it, but Ben laden and all the savages who believe in book worship are winning the hearts and minds of western youth - what does that tell you except we have lost our values - we murder our own babies - we have become effete - a people who have lost our identity - unless we get it back, our history {etymologically, "HisStory"- we are as good as replaced by none-sense.

"common sense may demand bombs away".

Too bad that the only thing common about sense is the lack there of.

Maybe we are really looking at willful intent in disguise.

Thanks, Proud Kaffir. I was going to cite that passage in Ayaan Hirsi Ali's Infidel as well. It is very instructive.

Jews are treated like all-purpose bogeymen in the Muslim world.

Hugh, I always thought I was up on theo-babble, but your "bomfoggery" takes the cake. May I use the word, too?

Panentheist, Thomas Sowell offers and explanation for that in this essay, "Is Anti-Semitism Generic?"

http://www.hoover.org/publications/digest/2931421.html

In short, it's a pattern of jealousy and resentment seen in many societies throughout history towards their "middleman minorities".

Oh, I think there's a little more to it than Sowell's theory.

See this:

Christian, Muslim, Jew
Franz Rosenzweig and the Abrahamic Religions
by Spengler

http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=6040

http://drybonesblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/sukkot-continuity.html

One could also read Psalm 82. And the Magnificat.

Then read Psalm 83. It is my theory that what happens in Psalm 83 is explained by what happens in Psalm 82 in the 'council of the gods'.

I think that the Hebrews - the Jews - are hated because their God, YHWH, personally challenges all the grand pretensions and Big Lies of all the self-appointed godkings and kinggods of this world.

Here is Jacques Ellul in 'Un Chretien Pour Israel' writing about the new antisemitism which masks itself as antizionism (applying to the Jewish *state* all the old tropes that used to be applied to the Jewish community or to the individual Jew):

"Mais aujourd’hui nous accedons a un nouvel avatar de cet antisemitisme: celui qui n’ose pas dire son nom, celui des intellectuels se proclamant fermement antiraciste, mais qui apparait dans la haine contre Israel avec toutes les ruses et les perversions que nous allons voir.

"Personne n’a mieux montre cette haine du Juif a cause de l’election que J. Madaule (Israel et le poids de l’election, Le Centurion, 1983):

'Le choix d’un peuple ne devrait donc pas faire scandale, d’autant qu’Israel n’a pas ete choise pour n’importe quoi, mais tres precisement pour manifester au reste de l’humanite la presence de Dieu.

'Cela suffit a le rendre insupportable au sens le plus fort du terme, insupportable a tous les autres et insupportable a lui-meme.

'De la est nee de tout temps cette judeophobie, cette crainte haineuse du Juif,

'horrible caricature et en quelque facon antithese de la crainte de Dieu qui est le commencement de la Sagesse.

La haine du Juif, en raison de son election, serait alors le commencement de la folie.”

'Admirable comprehension. Et ce commencement de la folie, c’est ce que nous allons rencontrer tout au long de ces pages."

-But today we arrive at a new avatar of this anti-Semitism: that which dare not speak its name, that of the intellectuals who proclaim themselves firmly against racism, but who appear in hate against Israel, with all the subterfuges and the perversions which we are going to see [in this chapter].

'No-one has better exposed this hatred of the Jews on account of their election, than J. Madaule (Israel and the burden of election, Centurion, 1983).

“The choice of a people would not have caused a scandal, except that Israel was not chosen for just anything but, very precisely, in order to show to the rest of humanity the presence of God.

'That is enough to make Israel unendurable in the strongest sense of the word, unbearable to everyone else and unbearable to himself.

'From this is born in every age that terror of the Jews, that hateful fear of the Jew, [which is] a horrible caricature and (after a certain manner) the antithesis of the fear of God which is the beginning of Wisdom.

Hatred of the Jew, because he is chosen, would then be the beginning of Madness.”

'An admirable understanding.

'And it is this beginning of Madness which we are going to meet all the way through this book."

http://drybonesblog.blogspot.com/2007/05/shavuot-in-galut-1997.html

http://drybonesblog.blogspot.com/2007/04/passover-deal.html

Hitler set out to destroy the Jews because, at bottom, he *had* to silence the God of the Jews, in order to achieve his own vision of the way the world ought to be - a vision rather reminiscent of Nietzsche. He wanted a pre-Biblical world, a world from which the peculiar moral vision of the Bible - and it *is* peculiar, it is sui generis - had been erased. And to achieve that he *had* to annihilate the House of Israel. Like the Mohammedans, he instinctively knew he had to destroy the Jews before he could destroy the Christians.


Panentheist, I believe the main reason people hate the Jews so much is because they were "invited" to join the Church and Islam and they said, in effect: No thanks, we've got our own thing.

Being immature body collectors, the Church and the Mosque have fulminated against, tried to convert, tortured and killed Jews.

Don't forget, the Church wants EVERYBODY! Or it doesn't count.
As does Islam. One in, all in.

The Jewsih religion? Hell, you're constantl;y asked if you're sure you want to convert, and frankly, looked at as a little odd if you do. Having said that, I've met some converts and they seem pretty happy :)

There is a lot of hate-filled anti Jewish rhetoric in the Church and churches as well as in Islam/ the mosques.

Just my 2 cents.

Hugh:

Of course, Muslims are responsible for the overwhelming share of their own suffering. However, consider this from a Muslim prospective:

1) Most of the architects of tar baby Iraq were Jewish (google a list and go to their bios). And you are aware of what a galvanizing an issues to Muslims Iraq has become.

2)The number one cause celebre for the Muslim world is Palestine and you know how Jews tie in to that.

3)Jews are the world bankers per excellence (current and former fed chairmen and at the helm of most of the chief finical institutions). Usury is haram and those who practice it are considered chief corrupters of the land per Sharia (though every Muslim country deals with world financial institutions and Sharia banking is farce and a cash cow to Islamic swindlers).

4)Jews are media kings from porn to mainstream (which looks increasingly pornographic). They will get flack for that ad infinitum.

Therefore, from a Muslim perspective, the Shiekh is not wrong. Of course, a Muslim prospective is doubly skewed. He will never consider how useful, creative and dynamic that small minority has been in comparison to the 1.2 bil of Allah's slaves. Also, that the Jewish invention of communism, Marxism and all manners of leftist ideologies have made West an easy pray for colonization by his follow Muslims who will inherit most of the West in a few decades.

Answer to the post above about what Muslims, it is asserted, surely must think:

1) "Most of the architects of tar baby Iraq were Jewish (google a list and go to their bios). And you are aware of what a galvanizing an issues to Muslims Iraq has become."

Reply: Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld were the main architects of the war in Iraq, with by far the major role played -- though some refuse to believe it -- Bush.


Bush was President,and it was he, above all, who pushed for the war in Iraq. He was ignorant of Islam and did not know the difference between the Sunnis and the Shi'a.

The Vice-President, equally keen, was Richard Cheney, who still appears to be ignorant of Islam but, in his favor, he seems a harder man than Bush, and certainly has never praised Islam as a religion of "peace and tolerance."

Secretary of State was Colin Powell. He was opposed to the war in Iraq, but not because he thought there were better ways to fight the Jihad. Rather, it was because, as a long-time tennis partner of Prince Bandar, and a recipient of presents (his wife was given a Jaguar by Bandar, just a few days after Powell resigned and such a gift could be accepted without violating American law.

National Security Advisor was Condoleezza Rice, who was simply a go-along-to-get-along official, but one who had ignored various warnings about terror threats (see Richard Clarke).

This business of "Jewish neocons" being responsible for the war in Iraq is both offensive and untrue. There are precisely three names that keep coming up. Two of them, Feith and Wolfowitz, were admittedly naive about Islam, had never focussed on it, and were taken to the cleaners by various suave Iraqis in exile, above all by Ahmad Chalabi. But they also listened to other people, or to the opinions that they expressed in writing, such as Kanan Makiya. They had some input, but the idea that they could manipulate such people, as Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, to invade Iraq, is the stuff of antisemitic fantasies -- more often to be found on the far left, and far right. And what gives this all a certain piquancy is that Israel's government was not at all favorable to this invasion of Iraq, and thought it a bad idea -- indeed, Ariel Sharon himself had warned against the idea. This appears to be overlooked by all those antisemites who want so dearly to believe that all the mistakes made by the American government in the Middle East are the result of Israeli influence. I don't think the Israelis have ever steered the Americans wrong in the Middle East, though the reverse is not true.

2)"The number one cause celebre for the Muslim world is Palestine and you know how Jews tie in to that."

The Jihad against the Infidel nation-state of Israel certainly gets the most attention from Arab Muslims, who have until recently been quite good at getting the 80% of the world's Muslims who are not Arabs to join in making "Palestine" an important issue. But if you were to visit the Muslims in Pakistan, the chief issue is surely India, and if you were to visit Indonesia, the chief issue for those Muslims who take it most seriously are such things as the Christians in the Moluccas, the Hindus in Bali, the Chinese who have often taken, for protective coloration, Indonesian names but have refused to give up Christianity or Confucianism.

By now, as you know, all the local jihads are linked, all are essentially merely subsets of the larger, world-wide Jihad. Before the Muslims became more powerful, they concentrated on two Jihads: that against Israel, and that against India. But that was before two developments. First, it was before the OPEC trillions arrived (thirteen trillion dollars since 1973 alone have gone to Muslim members of OPEC, without them having to lift a finger to earn any of it), which pay for arms, and pay for propaganda, and pay for mosques and madrassas, and armies of Western hirelings to promote Islam and what are seen as Muslim interests.

And the second major development was the movement, into the historic heart of the West, that is the countries of Western Europe, by the millions. They have been allowed to settle deep behind what they themselves are taught to regard as enemy lines. They present a problem that no other immigrant group -- Chinese, Hindus, Buddhist or Christian Vietnamese, Christian black Africans, South Americans -- presents, and they do so in every single European country, including those that are most famously tolerant, Denmark and the Netherlands. And that problem is permanent, is based on the ideology of Islam, which conflicts, in letter and spirit, with the legal and political institutions and social arrangements, of the advanced states of the Western world.

Now that Muslims feel they can lay claim to much more than merely tiny "Palestine," they are doing so, and everywhere, from Xinjiang in China, to Chechnya in southern Russia (think of the Nord Theatre attack, or that in Beslan), to the anti-Infidel demonstrations in Paris and London denouncing the Infidel government and claiming that "Islam will triumph," not to mention the open threats to political leaders -- Geert Wilders, for example, or before him the late (becuase murdered) Pim Fortuyn, and others in Great Britain (Pat Condell), France (Robert Redeker), Sweden (Lars Vilks), Denmark (Kurt Westergaard), or Italy (Magdi Allam), and many many others, including those who, like Wafa Sultan, must for the crime of telling the truth as she sees it about Islam is now living under a death threat.

I don't think "Palestine" is the number one issue among the world's Muslims. I think in each place one cause will be more or less prominent. In Afghanistan, the Taliban are outraged mainly by the presence of Infidels. In Pakistan, it is Indian control of Kashmir, and then, after Kashmir, Hindu dominance of India, which until the British came was under Muslim rule, and must be again. The same attitude can be found in Bangladesh. In southern Thailand, the Muslims who kill Buddhist monks, teachers, and farmers, may have only the vaguest knowledge of, and interest in, "Palestine." And in the Philippines Abu Sayyaf is hardly concerned with what happens in far-off Israel. For a while "Palestine" was, for the Muslims we were most likely to hear from -- the Arab Muslims -- the most important issue. And of coure it is very much in their interest to keep harping on this theme, and to play the victim. But a tour d'horizon of the Muslim lands shows that for local Muslims, local Infidels --whether Hindu, Buddhist, or Christian -- are going to be the Unbelievers whom Muslms must smite, whose laws and nation-states must be pulled down, as obstacles to the spread, and then the dominance, of Islam.

3)"Jews are the world bankers per excellence (current and former fed chairmen and at the helm of most of the chief finical institutions). Usury is haram and those who practice it are considered chief corrupters of the land per Sharia (though every Muslim country deals with world financial institutions and Sharia banking is farce and a cash cow to Islamic swindlers)."

This statement is simply false, and echoes, disturbingly, antisemitic propaganda about "Jewish bankers." I allow myself to believe that you don't really think that way yourself (correct me if I am wrong, and I will have nothing more to say to you)-- I am assuming you are not a Muslim yourself, nor an antisemitic non-Muslim, for antisemitism clouds perception and judgment, especially when it comes to Islam, among those who suffer from it. You may be confusing the medieval period, when Jews were entrusted with the task of banking because Christians were not allowed to charge interest. Later, however, the Medici and other Italian bankers replaced, in many cases, Jewish bankers, and in the modern world, in the twentieth century, while there are some famous Jewish banking houses, Jews were actually under-represented -- as compared to their representation in other areas -- and remain so to this day. You can study up on this yourself. And don't be fooled by the names of formerly "Jewish" firms -- created, of course, precisely because in the last two centuries it was so hard for Jews to enter and rise in mainstream banking firms --where so many of the partners are non-Jews.

The business about "Jewish bankers" is a theme of European antisemites. It has almost nothing to do with Islamic antisemitism, which exists independently of, and exhibits notable differences from, that which originates in Western Christendom.

4)"Jews are media kings from porn to mainstream (which looks increasingly pornographic). They will get flack for that ad infinitum."

You must be kidding. Look at the world's media, look at the treatment of Israel in that media -- start with the BBC, and the Guardian, in England, then go to France and "Le Monde," then to the papers in Germany, Spain, Italy, or for that matter those in the United States, and offer me the evidence that "Jews are media kings"? Look at who owns shares in Murdoch's operation. Look at the growth, everywhere, of Al Jazeera. What are you talking about -- the New York Times? Does that make Jews "media kings"? Give me the names of a single major newspaper in Great Britain, France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Denmark, the Netherlands, Sweden, Russia, not to mention China, India, Brazil, etc. where there is something resembling "Jewish control of the media"? This is one more myth of the antisemites, and like all of those myths, dangerous. As to "porn" -- here I find amazing the repeating, of a charge that comes close, in its significance, to the Nazi propaganda with which we are all familiar, such as that stuff that Der Stuermer, run by a Nazi who was, as many of the top boys were, a sexual pervert, that "the Jews" were "corrupting pure Aryan womanhood" etc.

I have taken the trouble and time to answer your assertions, despite considerable reservations, because I have chosen to assume that they were based more on ignorance rather than on your being subject to that pathological mental condition known as antisemitism. I hope that my trust proves justified.

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