Naivete. "Moderate Muslims speak, but they are rarely heard," from the Houston Chronicle, March 18:
Recently two events have occurred that describe opposing views of how some Muslims see the world. The reactions of Muslims in the United States to these two events will affect how their non-Muslim fellow citizens view this new and growing minority.One of the events occurred March 7 when Adam Gadahn, an American-born "spokesman" for al-Qaida, called for terrorist attacks on American targets, including "mass transportation systems." Many non-Muslims will hear about this through the widespread media coverage it got and will wonder, "Where are the moderate Muslims among us? Why don't they speak out?"
But they have been speaking out. For example, the Muslim Public Affairs Council issued the following statement March 7: "MPAC rejects this latest call for criminal acts by al-Qaida, considering it a failed attempt to deliver its bankrupt ideology to Western Muslims, who have continued to reject terrorism in all its forms."
The Islamic Society of North America has also emphatically rejected Gadahn's statement: "American Muslims ... reject al-Qaida's attempts to lure our young men and women to their revolutionary fantasies. ... Adam Gadahn and his masters have deviated from justice by calling for the indiscriminate murder of vast numbers of people on American soil."
The other event occurred March 2, when Pakistani-born Sheikh Tahir ul-Qadri, a prominent theologian, launched a seminal fatwa in London condemning terrorism in all its forms. "Terrorism is terrorism, violence is violence and it has no place in Islamic teaching and no justification can be provided for it, or any kind of excuses of ifs and buts. The world needs an absolute, unconditional, unqualified and total condemnation of terrorism."
This is only one of many such statements that have been issued by Islamic scholars since 9/11, but it is significant because it is one of the few that was issued in English and publicized in the United Kingdom, where most British-born extremists have family or cultural links within the Muslim community.
Regrettably, our news media will probably devote significant coverage to Gadahn's statements, and too few non-Muslims will hear of the condemnations of his statements issued by American Muslim groups, or of ul-Qadri's fatwa. [...]
We are part of a group of Jews and Muslims who have come together to understand each other's narratives under the auspices of Interfaith Ministries and the Institute for Sustainable Peace....
What could go wrong? Plenty.
MPAC was formed out of the Islamic Center of Southern California, whose leaders are known members of the Muslim Brotherhood. MPAC's Senior Advisor, Maher Hathout, has close ties to the Brotherhood.
ISNA, for its part, has admitted ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.
The Muslim Brotherhood "must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah's religion is made victorious over all other religions." -- Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America," May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, U.S. vs. HLF, et al. P. 7 (21).
And what more enjoyable way could they have found to sabotage our miserable house than to sucker the naive kuffar into buying that groups like MPAC and ISNA are really opposed to jihad?
Regrettably, our news media will probably devote significant coverage to Gadahn’s statements, and too few non-Muslims will hear of the condemnations of his statements issued by American Muslim groups, or of ul-Qadri’s fatwa.
Yeah, and too few Muslims are hearing it also, and when they do, they know the message is meant to soothe the dhimmi kuffar.
LOL
"Turkish PM Erdogan commented on the term “moderate Islam”, often used in the West...and said, ‘These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.”
And he should know.
The other event occurred March 2, when Pakistani-born Sheikh Regrettably, our news media will probably devote significant coverage to Gadahn's statements, and too few non-Muslims will hear of the condemnations of his statements issued by American Muslim groups, or of ul-Qadri's fatwa.
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This is, after its fashion, true. It is also regrettable, but not for the reasons the authors of this Houston Chronicle article would have us believe.
Tahir ul-Qadri "fatwa against terrorism" is a classic of its kind, and is an excellent example of Muslim Taqiyya and its danger to the West.
Even the most uniformed Westerner can look at the odious Adam Gadahn and see that he is a threat. Many people—including many readers of the Houston Chronicle, the authors of this piece are hoping—will not understand that Tahir ul-Qadri represents as great a danger in his own way.
In addition, there is the usual grievance—the implication that Muslims have credibly denounced Jihad terror over and over again—how much more can they be expected to do?—and that it is only the "Islamophobic" Western press that will not cover it.
What supposed moderate Muslims say in public or to the press is one thing what they say to each other behind closed doors is something very different. I can tell you coming from a culture that has been influenced by Muslims that you are taught as a young child never to tell an outsider what you really feel. So never trust what a supposed moderate Muslim says.It or may not be the truth.
What about M.J. Khan, the main author of this piece for the Houston Chronicle? I wasn't able to find all that much on him, except that he served on the Houston City Council for three terms, and is now in a runnoff election for City Controller.
With term limits, three terms are all he could serve. A Khalid Khan—relation?—is now running for his old seat.
It seems he has been rubbing shoulders with CAIR for some time, though. Here he is at a CAIR banquet from 2008.
Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) presented a Certificate of Congressional Recognition to CAIR reading:
"You are soundly recognized by the 18th Congressional District for dedication and commitment of the United States that is truly worthy of respect, admiration and accommodation of the U.S. Congress."
Unbelievable. Congresswoman Lee also spoke at an earlier CAIR event in Dallas, where she claimed the Oklahoma City bombing was the first terrorist attack on U.S. soil:
"How proud I am to have been associated with CAIR's legislative work in the United States… We need CAIR and we need all of you supporting CAIR, for it has been willing to stand up and be courageous in time that were difficult. I'm reminded, in 1995 and the first terrorist act on the soil of the United States, so account for anti-Muslim feelings. I joined with my friend and Council member M.J. Khan to join together in Houston to stand up against violence."
Of course, Oklahoma City *was not* the first terrorist attack on U.S. soil—the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993 was. This act of Jihad terror *was* carried out by Muslims, which makes Representative Jackson's incredulity that any Americans might associate terrorism with Islam a little less credible.
http://www.investigativeproject.org/791/congress-cozying-up-to-cair
It seems the meretricious M.J. Khan has been involved with Taqiyya well before he penned this ode to CAIR for the Houston Chronicle.
If any posters here are from the Houston area, I'm sure many of us would be interested in hearing more about M.J. Khan.
Terrorism is terrorism, violence is violence and it has no place in Islamic teaching and no justification can be provided for it, or any kind of excuses of ifs and buts. The world needs an absolute, unconditional, unqualified and total condemnation of terrorism.
Sigh. Let's take a stroke at this hole:
*** 8:12 ***
I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.
Now that's god talking right there. Any questions? Duh.
Terrorism is terrorism, violence is violence and it has no place in Islamic teaching and no justification can be provided for it, or any kind of excuses of ifs and buts. The world needs an absolute, unconditional, unqualified and total condemnation of terrorism.
Sigh. Let's take a stroke at this hole:
*** 8:12 ***
I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.
Now that's god talking right there. What our god sez is no if ands or buts. Any questions? Is this complicateed? Duuuh.
"We are part of a group of Jews and Muslims who have come together to understand each other's narratives ..."
What does this fluff-speak really mean? What is the Muslim narrative? Grievance followed by grievance followed by demands. How many of these interfaith meetings do Muslims participate in and then continue supporting jihad? How many of them are really sincere? I would wager very few, that is, if they are really Muslim. And there seems to be no shortage of naive Jews.
There have always been Muslims who declined to practice the exhortations to violence in the Koran. Although they were probably in the majority, when did they ever stop the jihadis from doing what they do? Never, so far as I know. Whether they speak out against the violence or not, we can't rely on them. It's all up to us.
From the article:
"We are part of a group of Jews and Muslims who have come together to understand each other's narratives under the auspices of Interfaith Ministries and the Institute for Sustainable Peace."
'Interfaith Ministries'.
'The Institute for Sustainable Peace'.
In other words: snake-oil peddling.
As for 'understand each other's narratives'...I wonder whether the Muslims tell the Jews that Mohammed loved Jews sooo much that he took a Jewish girl, Rayhana, as his sex-slave (he raped her after all her male relatives had been dispatched by his merry men in a jihad raid on her hometown and tribe) and that he raped another Jewish girl, Safiyya, aged 17, on the evening of the *very same day* that his Jihadi sand-pirates had destroyed her entire community, butchered the men (including her male relatives), raped and enslaved the nubile females and prepubescent boys, and tortured Safiyya's husband to death?
Mohammed raped Safiyya and made her his slave-wife, his trophy wife...human booty from Khaybar. That she submitted, played along (who wouldn't, when trapped in 'marriage' to a psycho predator like Mohammed, with no hope whatsoever of rescue and no possibility of escape except by suicide?) and is represented by the MUSLIM propagandists as resigned to her wretched lot and engaging in all the usual harem intrigues, does not tell us anything about what anguished prayers this traumatised Jewish woman might have whispered to the Living God in the deepest, darkest hours of the night.
"We are part of a group of Jews and Muslims who have come together to understand each other's narratives".
I was in Houston to see the Doc on the 18th. My eyes about popped out of my head when I saw this puff-aganda piece. There is a large and growing number of muslims in Houston, so this is the chronicle's backdoor way of helping Kahn into his new job. And the new Kahn into the old Kahn's job.
You want to exchange narratives?
OK, here's ours: It's the Holy Bible. Read it, it's translated into every language known.
I'll finish reading yours soon, and then you can tell me your book is only valid in Arabic.
I have posted at least one comment here before about MJ Khan but it was taken down. Let's see if this one will stay.....
Kahn was vice-president of the Islamic Society of Greater Houston before he was elected to the Houston city council. The "camping grounds" in Willis, Texas, in the "Houston Taliban" case is owned by the ISGH. I have not been able to find any public comment by Mr. Khan deploring the use of the ISGH grounds for jihad training.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/05/man-in-houston-taliban-case-gets-10-months.html
Khan has co-hosted annual iftar dinners with the former mayor of Houston, Bill White, on the ground of City Hall:
http://www.pakistanchronicle.com/content/largest-ever-gathering-houston-mayoral-iftar-dinner-enjoyed-food-mezban-demasis-restaurants
An undated interview he gave while on the city council with interesting comments on encouraging more muslims to enter the American political process:
http://www.thesaturdaypost.com/rendezvous_52_mjkhan.html
And from March 2007: "When asked about the possibility of a Muslim president, Khan did not hesitate: “For sure, there will be a president who will be from the Islamic community in the future of America … you can be assured that there will be a Muslim sitting in the White House.”
http://www.america.gov/st/washfile-english/2007/March/20070307175643berehellek0.4109156.html
I can find no public record of MJ Khan stating his concern for what is being taught in the 100+ mosques on the greater Houston area, of which he is so proud, or calling on the muslim community leadership in Houston to speak out against the radicalization of Houston-area muslims.
But can be sure the UofH and Rice chapters of the MSA and ArabVoices are doing their part to advance islamic supremacism. Just check out their past & future events and speakers:
http://www.arabvoices.net/
http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~msa/
http://www.uh.edu/campus/msa/
Houston, we have a problem. Wake up, dhimmis!