Malaysia: Muslims protest, threaten over Motoon: Long live Islam," "Down with Sweden," "Take some lessons from 9/11!!!"

LarsVilksMuhammad.JPG Warranting another 9/11?


Threatening blood and death over a cartoon -- and Western non-Muslims continue to kowtow to their irrational bullying, instead of standing up and saying, "Wait a minute. Killing people, or threatening people with death, because of a perceived insult to someone you revere is madness, and we're not going to stand for it. We're going to defend the freedom of speech as an indispensable protection against the authoritarianism and tyranny that crushes the human spirit.

"If you revere Muhammad, revere him. But don't demand that everyone else subordinate his free conscience to yours, and revere him as well. We are not insulting your prophet for the sake of insulting him, but to illustrate and defend the principle that in a truly free society, one in which human beings can flourish, we all have to put up with things that offend us. The only alternative is to establish the hegemony of one belief-system over all others, and while we realize that that is your goal, we will not endorse it. Indeed, in the name of human rights and human dignity, we will oppose it all the energy we have."

One day, maybe, we will have a politician who talks like that (yes, the Netherlands has one now). But I am not holding my breath.

"Malaysians protest over Muhammad cartoon," from Associated Press, March 26 (thanks to Alexandre):

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -- More than 200 Malaysian Muslim protesters called on Sweden on Friday to take action against several newspapers that reprinted a caricature depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a dog.

The protesters burned a Swedish flag outside the Swedish embassy, chanting "Long live Islam" and "Down with Sweden" and carrying posters that read "Take some lessons from 9/11!!!" and "We fight for our prophet."

They also burned a picture of Swedish artist Lars Vilks, who made the drawing of Muhammad's head on a dog's body in 2007 that was reprinted in papers recently.

"We demand that the Swedish government take strong action against the newspapers and against the artist," said Sabki Yusof, one of the protest leaders from the opposition Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party. "It's unacceptable what they did to our prophet."

Swedish ambassador Helena Sangeland called for more dialogue with Muslims for better mutual understanding but said no action would be taken against the papers. She said she was "very disappointed" that the Swedish flag was burned.

"The Swedish government will not comment nor take any action against media. Freedom of expression is enshrined in our constitution. It is not negotiable," she told The Associated Press. "I don't think Malaysia-Sweden bilateral relations will be affected in any way."...

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The protesters burned a Swedish flag outside the Swedish embassy, chanting "Long live Islam"... "We fight for our prophet."

Islam is the "walking dead" and long outlived its usefulness. Prophet Mohammad's monstrous acromegalic hideousness is a slander and offense to all decent humanity, and dogs.

"Take some lessons from 9/11!!!"

What? I thought is was them Joooozzz, the Mossad & the CIA....

WTF? Now this is getting really confusing....

At some point I hope to see infidels taking a look at the real bad cartoon which is the koran.

Inside that wicked comic book, the infidel will find himself maligned and insulted in ways which will make his skin crawl and his mind shudder in horror.

The koran is little more than a hate-filled rant and curse against the non-moslem.

If the muhammadans want to play fair, they will have to bowdlerize that manual of hate and intolerance.

Then we can talk. But not before then.

This behavior on the part of mohammedans when something sacred to them is made light of is so incredibly childish. This is how a four-year-old acts.

Don't you think Christians feel something akin to anger or sadness when they see the Lord Jesus Christ mocked? But lashing out either verbally or physically is not the proper response.

Instead, we follow the example of Jesus Christ and pray for that person (because one day, s/he will answer to the Almighty Lord for the insult.)

Lord, I am so very weary of this weak, nonsensical and crazy faith, and its adherents.

Arrest everyone who wants to attack Lars Vilks
May Freedom of speech prevail

How many years have to pass, and how many of our lives have to be lost, before the U.S.A along with a broad coalition of Western nations drafts and implements Operation F.U.?

Swedish ambassador Helena Sangeland called for more dialogue with Muslims for better mutual understanding but said no action would be taken against the papers. She said she was "very disappointed" that the Swedish flag was burned. The Swedish government will not comment nor take any action against media. Freedom of expression is enshrined in our constitution. It is not negotiable."

Is she saying that the Swedes negotiated that away some time ago and there's nothing left to squander?

*** 8:7 ***

On the other hand, more dialog and understanding with Moslems is always a robust activity.

"Operation F.U."

lol ...OK, Hesp, what does that stand for? Keep it PG, please ...

Is it Operation Fun Uncensored?

I mean there is no fun in islam, right? ...so it's high time that Changed.

Swedish ambassador Helena Sangeland called for more dialogue with Muslims for better mutual understanding...

Now there's an idea...I wonder why no one has thought of that before?

This drawing is very offensive to me :(

Why is that ugly mug drawn on a beautiful dogs body?!

The artist should have drawn mohammad sitting on death row awaiting his much deserved execution.

Poor dog! ...I Luv dogs *heart*

It's sloppy art...drawn in about two minutes...There are some talented artists who post here who could do much better...I think I posted that before...That deja vu sneaked right up on me...

champ,

As you probably guessed, my acronym was grimly X-rated.

On appropriate drawings of Mohammed, check this out:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XBLJ3QFIXjE/SfZXLiCkepI/AAAAAAAAAwQ/XMcVU_ZbGdY/s400/Dante+Mohammed.jpg

That artist is William Blake, one of his many illustrations of Dante’s Divine Comedy. In the third part, Inferno, Dante wrote of Mohammed damned in Hell, suffering the special torture of being forced to rip his own flesh apart (verses 22-36 in Canto XXVIII). Dante also put Ali the founder of Shia Islam in Hell.

At least twice in the last decade (2002 and 2006), Italian authorities have uncovered plots by cells of Muslims to blow up an obscure chapel in Bologna, Italy, that has a fresco inside depicting this same passage from Dante's Inferno.

champ,

Operation Fun Uncensored?

Lovely!

Sheik Yer'Mami wrote:

"Take some lessons from 9/11!!!"

What? I thought is was them Joooozzz, the Mossad & the CIA....

WTF? Now this is getting really confusing....
.........................

It took me a long time to figure this out, Sheik—many Muslims seem quite comfortable with the cognitive dissonance of simultaneously believing the 9/11 and other Jihad horrors were perpetrated by "the magnificent 19" and by Mossad and the CIA.

I think it comes down to this: if an event reflects badly on Muslims, making Infidels less credulous and more wary, then it was a plot by Jews and Americans to make Islam look bad.

If, however, it can be used as a vicious warning to Infidels, and make them more fearful and dhimmified and more generally subservient to Muslims and more susceptible to Muslim supremacy, then it is a great victory for Islam, and was carried out by glorious Shaheeds.

With an event like 9/11, with its far-reaching effects, you get plenty of both reactions—hence, the insane scene I noticed, not long after 9/11—it was either in Indonesia or Malaysia—where some men and boys were being interviewed by a Western reporter. They were all declaiming that the terror attack was engineered by the West to "make Muslims look bad"—this, even though one of the boys in the group was wearing a T-shirt with the face of Osama bin Laden looming over the burning WTC towers.

None of the Muslims mentioned it—nor did the Western reporter.

The idea that there might be such a thing as objective reality—where an event simply occurred in the historic sense—seems alien to the irrational mindset of Islam.

Thanks for the link! I've always been an admirer of Blake and Dante.

I think they have it backwards. Shouldn't it be "Long live Sweden" and "Down with Islam"?

Maybe they are protesting that the cartoons are too mild and are depicting their blood-thirsty prophet as a harmless little dog ;)
Not good for Mo's image.

My thoughts about this situation are...

That islam is like a dung beetle rolling a turd, while the other dung beetles keep chseing after it squeeking "MINE, MINE, MINE."

Seems fairly straight forward to me.

Have a great day infowarriers.

Unless you are an Islamic info Jihadist, and in that case I hope that you wont be too offended if I tell you to
eat dung...

Thanks,
Mobamad

:-D

As long as innocents like Susanne Winter keep getting persecuted in their own countries (Austria of all places- isn't that the place where the Muslim hordes were held back? At the Gates of Vienna?)
I mean what did Susanne say? Mohammad, if he were living today would be classified as a paedophile?
All she was doing was telling the truth! And for that she got three months jail time and a fine of 24,000 Euros?
Give me a break! There is no hope for Eurabia, now.
If they beat Susanne Winter in court then they'll surely be able to prosecute the cartoonists. That's next.
Goodbye freedom of speech. The Moonbats are winning the battles.

"Swedish ambassador Helena Sangeland called for more dialogue with Muslims for better mutual understanding but said no action would be taken against the papers."

What a brilliant idea! Maybee a compromise could be achieved. We will only allow Muhammad to be drawn as an ape, and the Muslims only depicts Jews as dogs. That should work. ;-)

Two thoughts:

1. If you're Sweden, what the hell do you care how relations are with Malaysia? Tell 'em to go pee up a rope & while we're at it, since you wanna' get ugly, we're shutting-down muslim immigration...TODAY!

2. The (selective) use of 9/11, in this case as a naked threat--these are nothing less than FIGHTING WORDS! They can only dishonor our dead in this way because of our FAILURE to pursue swift and sure retaliation when they gave us the opportunity.
It's long-past time the gloves came off with these cretins--they will respect no less.
Hello, Barack, anybody home in there?

Tanstaafl wrote, in response to a post by Hesperado:

Thanks for the link! I've always been an admirer of Blake and Dante.
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Hesperado and Tanstaafl, I agree! Here is the same scene, rendered perhaps even more dramatically, by the marvelous British illustrator Gustave Doré from the mid-19th century:

http://billlawrenceonline.com/archive/MohammedDore.jpg

Excuse me—duh—that would be *French* illustrator Gustave Doré. He did have a lot of links to Britain—including illustrating an English Bible and maintaining a gallery in London—but that is really no excuse for such sloppiness on my part.

Sheik, don't worry. Next time the USA elects a "Christer" Republican President or has too many of them in Congress, the brave lions of Jihad will once again go baaaaaaawling to Mommie Dearest (the Leftist MSM nnd Academia in Europe and America) over how those meanie JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ framed them for 9/11.

Frankly, I'm all for the Jihadis bullying Europeans. While I'm sorry for the rape victims in Malmo and can even feel a little sorry for that besotted Theo van Gogh in his death agony at the hands of Bouyeri, it seems that only these kind of things wake people up to what the Jihadis are all about.

OT, after seeing Karzai kissing Madmonkeyman on TV, I think the US 0f A should withdraw from Afghanistan tout de suite and leave them to their own festering tribal and sectarian feuds. Let Osama Bin Laden crow until he feels bold enough to emerge from hiding, go traveling, and then hijack him as they did with the Achille Lauro seajackers.

It's sloppy art...drawn in about two minutes...There are some talented artists who post here who could do much better...I think I posted that before...That deja vu sneaked right up on me...
.............

I do agree, Swami—this is cruder than the sort of stuff I doodle when I'm on the phone and am particularly distracted. But, much as I am an advocate of excellent art, I can't help but feel it makes little difference in this case.

Would it matter to these vicious Muslims if the MoDoggies were beautifully rendered, rather than the scrawls that they are? I doubt it very much.

More, from above:

Swedish ambassador Helena Sangeland called for more dialogue with Muslims for better mutual understanding...
.............

What sort of "understanding" would that be? These devout Muslims want Sweden to move against the newspapers and artist on the grounds of blasphemy—in other words, they want Sweden and the rest of the West to impose Shari'ah norms—how difficult is that to "understand"?

Gravenimage - I think that you nailed it just right. Thanks for your thoughts on this.

Robert: "One day, maybe, we will have a politician who talks like that (yes, the Netherlands has one now). But I am not holding my breath."

We may have a chance to have our own from Tennessee. Check out this Front Page Magazine interview with Vijay Kumar:

Mr. Kumar: "Islam’s Universal Jihad is the single greatest threat to Western civilization and to the entire non-Islamic world in general. It is more dangerous than Nazism and Communism combined."

We need to help get this guy elected. Read it all at...
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/03/26/the-wrong-way-to-stand-against-jihad/

Thank you, Paul—it's the only explanation, I think, that fits—but it is entirely alien to anyone who looks at the world objectively.

I think a pig would have been better than a dog. More accurate.

This cartoon is crudely done. The fanatical Muslim's reaction is to want to kill everyone involved in its creation and publication.

My reaction is to ask why is any time being wasted by anyone over this nothing drawing? It's crap. I don't draw, ever, and I could do better. And what in the drawing says it's Muhammed? It's a turbanned head on a quadruped's body. Hell, nothing in this picture really says "dog" either.

Do fanatical Muslims always assume that a drawn head with a turban is Muhammed?

Maybe we ought to tell them that it's an ancient Mesopotamian cherub.

Some Muslims "protesting" in Malaysia, in front of the Swedish embassy, some of them (shown in the AP photo) "protesting" with signs written in English, threatening Sweden due to a cartoon sketch of Muhammad made by one Swedish artist three years ago, and republished recently in some Swedish news media. In their threat, they invoke a major terrorist attack on U.S. civilians carried out almost nine years ago, and thus imply Swedish civilians will also face a similar terrorist attack, due to that one artist's cartoon sketch portraying a prospective sculpture of Muhammad as part dog part man. Their response can be seen in the context of a jihad to impose sharia rule over non-Muslims, a jihad that stretches across the globe and throughout history. Arguably the most important rule in sharia is to shut down all non-Muslim expressions about Islam and Muhammad that are less than flattering.

The Associated Press's role in this is curious. Why would AP seek any response at all from the Swedish government on this matter? Does AP assume, like the "protesters," that the Swedish government has the power to, and ought to, restrict the Swedish media's freedom to publish such images of Muhammad? Is the AP conveying a message on behalf of this Muslim activist group? What about the fact that the AP article is presented to a huge international audience? Why is it that AP so often seems to be presenting such messages from Muslim groups? (I think it's reasonable to assume that AP's agenda is rather different than that of the Jerusalem Post or JihadWatch).

""Malaysians protest over Muhammad cartoon," from Associated Press"

That is, a Muslim activist group in Malaysia invokes 9/11 and thus threatens to slaughter Swedish civilians en mass in a similar fashion, in order to enforce the Islamic blasphemy penalty internationally. AP describes this as "protest," by "protesters."

Why is AP covering this story at all? Were there actually more than 200 Muslim "protesters"? If there were, why weren't they included in a wide-angle shot of the "protest"? The photo shows only three such "protesters," all apparently non-violent and calm, holding up signs in English kindly telling people not to insult "our prophet" "peace be upon him." I don't doubt that large numbers of Malaysian Muslims would put on such a "protest." But it seems AP is especially solicitous in presenting such stories.

"The protesters burned a Swedish flag outside the Swedish embassy, chanting "Long live Islam" and "Down with Sweden" and carrying posters that read "Take some lessons from 9/11!!!" and "We fight for our prophet."" -from the article

I wonder if these chants were in English, or whether the quotes here are translations of chants made in another language.

When the Norwegians were fighting Hitler tooth and nail,
the ever enlightened and pacifist swedes didn't move a
muscle to defend their nearest neighbors. They were
collaborators with murderers then and unless they have had some seismic epiphany equal to 9.0 on the ricter scale
they'll pull a stupak as soon as Towelheads unlimited
puts on the pressure. When a four year old with sensible parents has a tantrum he's isolated with the message when you are ready to speak politely, you will be allowed to
tell us your problem. No audience - no use for a tantrum.
There is no reward for unreasonable behavior. Eurabia !
Great term for the once great stronghold of Western
Civilization. Catchy name. I love it.

Maybe we should tell them it's a buraq from Iraq... :-D :-D :-D

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