Who is the racist? Who is the fascist? Who is trying to shut down debate and dissent by force -- attacking police and pro-Wilders demonstrators, and prosecuting Wilders in his own country -- and who is standing for free speech and human rights?
"Dutch anti-Islam politician creates stir in UK," by Raphael G. Satter and Arthur Max for AP, March 5 (thanks to Nelson):
LONDON (AP) - Dutch anti-Islam maverick Geert Wilders took his cinematic assault on the Quran to Britain's House of Lords on Friday, sparking heated debate inside the building and angry protests outside....Wilders screened his 15-minute film "Fitna" to about 60 people, including a half-dozen peers, in a wood-paneled committee room in Parliament. The film associates the Quran with terrorism, homophobia and repression of women.
No. As the film itself makes clear, it is Islamic clerics who associate the Qur'an with "terrorism, homophobia and repression of women." Wilders merely reports on how they do so.
Outside, about 200 protesters jeered and chanted "Fascist thugs off our streets." Police scuffled with several demonstrators who tried to block a street to prevent a demonstration of pro-Wilders activists from the English Defense League from approaching Parliament....
Nota bene: The police scuffled with the people shouting, "Fascists thugs off our streets," not with the putative fascists themselves. The ones trying to shut down their opposition with violence were the self-proclaimed anti-fascists. Huey Long is supposed to have said: "When fascism comes to America it will be called anti-fascism." And it looks as if it is already happening that way in London.
The English Defense League - a newly formed, self-described "counter-jihad" movement with reported links to the U.K. far-right - has mimicked Wielder's relentless focus on Islam....Outside the British Parliament, protesters calling themselves antifascists denounced Wilders and his backers of the English League as racists.
Jack Kavanagh, one of the people wrestled out of the crowd by police, expressed scorn for Wilders, calling his movie "racist tripe."
Across the way, 70-year-old retiree Ian Birchall said the English League was composed of "a particularly unpleasant bunch of racists" intent on setting Britons against the country's approximately 2 million strong Muslim community....
Since everyone who stands up for human rights and freedom against Islamic supremacism and violence is branded a racist nowadays, it's useful to look at the evidence. Here is a group that is so racist that it has featured a Sikh speaker, has a youth group that bears the slogan, "Black, White and Brown Unite," and says: "We welcome members from all over the political spectrum, and with varying views on foreign policy, united against Islamic extremism and its influence on British life. Everyone from those whose ancestral roots are in pre-Roman Britain to immigrants just arrived yesterday will be welcomed into the EDL with open arms as long as they are willing to stand up with us for English values and against Islamist hate."
Many people conflate the EDL with the genuinely racist and antisemitic BNP, which I repudiate utterly, but there seems to be a good deal of evidence to suggest that the EDL is not itself racist, white supremacist, antisemitic, neo-fascist, etc. At very least, they bear watching. In any case, these charges are invariably and inevitably trotted out by Leftists and their jihadist allies whenever anyone stands up against the Islamic supremacism that would deny our freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and equality of rights before the law. After awhile, the wolf-crying becomes obvious.
This is not the middle ages where the Muslim hordes are amassing with a martial prowess that the kafirs of Europe cannot even begin to match. No Mr. Spencer and Mr. Fitzgerald-- The problem is not Islam or the Jihad. The Muslims have no power on their own against the West. If you want to finish the Jihad and the threat of Islam, a civil war is necessary in the West to destroy the elements that wants the West to fall and renders all service to the cause of Islam. I believe that there is no saving the Western world from the clutches of Islam because by and large it does not want to be saved.
Oh yes, have_mercy, Islam and jihad ARE the problems. What kind of BS is that you're trying to sell? Are you nuts? Your solution? Not to fight against the Muslims who, according to you, "have no power on their own against the west," but instead let's have a civil war against the (I assume you mean the Left) elements in the west who render service in the cause of Islam. Great. Deplete our numbers some more while muslims breed out of control? I can see where that will lead.
Further, isn't that like saying, in 1938, "Let us not fight against the Nazi's who have no more demands against the west, instead let us have a civil war and wipe out the British who have facilitated the cause of Nazism by not standing against it. After all, Chamberlain and his people are weak anyway and have no will to fight." ???
Hindu girl gives it to pakistan and the mullahas.
This girl is about 13 but listen to her speech against pakistan. I wish these more hindus would speak like her. she is no dhimmi nor a ghandoo. English translation on bottom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfe03MrAwNE
"Jack Kavanagh, one of the people wrestled out of the crowd by police, expressed scorn for Wilders, calling his movie "racist tripe."
The mind boggles at the sheer idiocy of a Jack Kavanagh. I think he should be transported to a tribal village in Yemen. Good Riddance to a Jack-ass Kavanagh.
The problems are EXACTLY Islam and Islamic Jihad.
In addition, the mass-breeding of the Mohammedans which constitutes the huge problem called Demographic Jihad.
All Muslim immigration should be stopped immediately. They can stay in their own countries, worship their mass-murder moon god, and over-breed there.
The coming civil wars in the West will be between natives and muslims, with some of the self-hating nihilists and islamic apologists siding with the savages. They're the ones who scream "racist!", "islamophobe", "bigot" at everyone who accurately points out islam's incompatibility with Western values. Since we all know what the divine words of allah as written in the unholy qur'an say about non-muslims, we understand that muslims are our enemies. The 1400 year history of this hideous "religion" is a testament to what lies ahead if we don't defend our civilization. The jihad has been underway for decades in the West and will escalate as the muslim population swells.
The lies fed to the people of the West by their incompetent, traitorous leaders are becoming obvious to even the densest among us. People have lost faith and trust in their elected leaders and frustration, fear, and resentment have become widespread. I believe the people of the West will defeat islam but not before millions die. The next major world war will be a clash of civilizations, which has already begun and will continue to expand, intensify, and ultimately explode.
The inevitable global conflict will be the direct result of flooding non-muslim countries with millions of incompatible muslims, a bloodbath caused by utopian social engineers, multiculturalists, and moral relativists, brilliant intellectuals too dense to grasp the obvious--- the basic elements of human nature, yet confident of their god-like wisdom and power. Man-made utopia is unattainable, but they never give up and they never learn from history.
State of the Nation
I do not watch much TV except for an hour at breakfast time. I do listen to BBC radio at irregular times during the day. I have not seen or heard ANY reference to Geert's visit on any UK TV or Radio channel. If it has been covered it can only have been short references in isolated off-peak bulletins. I believe there have been some "inside page" press reports.
Maybe he is saying things they do not want us to hear? Or maybe they do not want to upset/are afraid of upsetting/ our "Asian" citizens?
"Asian" yes. I just love that. Ever since I first heard it used as a "descriptor" of muslims-in-general I thought what the heck is up with that?!? It really is nothing short of exquisitely disingenuous and confusing for people. What do you think upon hearing that an "Asian gang of youths" attacked somebody or other? Pakistani's? Turks? Sudanese? Jordanians? Well Excuse me if it makes me racist to automatically think Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese.
It's deflection. It's camouflage. It's apologist. And I think traditional Asians ought to speak up about it.
Fred
if you want a very nice, clear first-hand report of the pro-Geert rally and those who opposed it, hop on over to 'New English Review'.
Our redoubtable Esmerelda Weatherwax was there in person, taking pictures.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/26312
Read her report and pass it on to everyone you know.
Point is, people are doing everything they can possibly think of to deflect blame from muslims. The worse it gets, the more of these types of games are played. As has been noted here at JHW many times, the worse the "Palestinians" act and scream and yell and kill, the more the west panders to them, makes concessions, gives them what they demand. It's rewarding bad behaviour, and the worse the behaviour the more the reward. My own brother is so far out there somewhere I can't seem to talk sense to him. He's a "New World Orderer," a follower of Richard Maybury, who believes the muslims have always been victims of the west and the troubles STARTED with the Crusades! He hates Israel and agrees with the Palestinians 100%. We can't even talk anymore. Sorry to rant, I'm just going to go to bed.
This is my response to Martin Smith's recent slagging off of the English Defence League. Citizen Smith is a spokeman for Unite Aginst Fascism and the National Secretary of the Socialist Workers Party.
http://islamthefarleftandmisc.blogspot.com/
Martin Smith, ‘The BNP and the EDL’, Socialist Review, March 2010,
http://www.socialistreview.org.uk/article.php?articlenumber=11183
My response:
Contents:
i) What's wrong with football fans, Mr Smith?
ii) Martin Smith’s Account of the Stoke Demo
iii) The Far Left Loves the Far Right Really
iv) Racism?
v) Martin ‘Runs With Muslims’ Smith the Street Fighter
vi) Gramsci and Mr Smith
vii) Revolution?
What’s wrong with football fans, Mr Smith?
Citizen Smith doesn’t seem to like football supporters. They are too British for him. Too patriotic. Worst of all, they haven’t read Trotsky or even Lenin. Bastards! Martin Smith seems to find it hard to make a distinction between ‘football hooligans’ and ‘football fans’. Does Citizen Smith know that one out of every two British males is a football fan? Fancy being against so many people. Then again, this is Citizen Smith and the UAF/SWP we are talking about. If you’re not brown, or a student, or a Muslim, then they don’t have much time for you. The vast majority of British people just aren’t Marxist or Islamist enough for Citizen Smith. All we can do is laugh when Smith says, conspiratorially, that so-and-so ‘had already begun to build alliances with football supporters’. Shock horror! What next, alliances with, uh, working class white people? Never!
I love Smith's little excursion into Marxist ‘class analysis’. Smith thinks that the media portrays EDL as ‘working class yobs’. He thinks that the media is wrong. Apparently, ‘many [EDL] come from “petty bourgeois” professions – the classic base of fascism’. Well, I never! I didn’t know that I was ‘petty bourgeois’ and the EDL members I have talked to are petty bourgeois. Doesn’t it show what a sad little train spotter Smith really is when he resurrects terms like ‘petty bourgeois’ from the dustbin of Communist and Trotskyist history. Anyone who uses these quaint little pseudo-technical terms must be a complete arse. These words are dead today. In any case, the SWP/UAF Alliance is full of middle class people. Alex Callinicos, of the Central Committee (yes, Central Committee) and a few others, are upper middle class. Actually, Callinicos is from an aristocratic background. But they are not ‘bourgeois’! Why is that? Because they are Marxists. A Marxist may be middle class, but he can’t be bourgeois. In fact no Marxist can be bourgeois, no matter how rich he is. How neat. And how tidy.
Yes, I too talk about class. Specifically the middle class and professional/student basis of the UAF/SWP Alliance. That is not because I’m against the middle class. I’m not. What I am against is middle class people who pretend they are not middle class. Or middle class people who speak out against what they call ‘the middle class’. As well as those Marxists middle-class SWP-ers who class right-wing middle class people as ‘bourgeois’ or ‘petty bourgeois’. It’s not the middle class I’m against. It’s middle class far-leftist hypocrites.
You see the EDL can’t win. If it were full of working class members it would be accused of being full of ‘yobs’. Now Smith is saying it is full of, or run by, the ‘petty bourgeois’. In any case, this petty-bourgeois fixation is simply a result of Smith and co. reading too many books about the rise of fascism in Nazi Germany and Italy in the 1920s and 30s. He is trying very hard indeed to fit the EDL and its actions into his own potted history of fascism – the things he has read about again and again in the vast and boring corpus of Marxist history and theory. But the cap doesn’t fit, Smith. This is Britain in the year 2010. It’s not Germany or Italy in the 1920s or 30s. The situations are completely different. The British have always despised Nazis and Trots equally. Extremism doesn’t sit that well in England, unlike in Europe. That’s why far right and Trot groups still do better on the Continent. That’s why the British hate the SWP and the far right.
In any case, what point is Smith actually making by stressing the ‘petty bourgeois’ fan base of the EDL? Is it really the simple point that historically the petty bourgeois were the backbone of the Nazi Party? Is that what he is getting at? Eddie Hitler was also an artist and a vegetarian. Perhaps some sociologist should do a study of the EDL and see how many artists or vegetarians there are.
Martin Smith become even more pathetic than, well, Martin Smith when, in hushed tones, he tells us that the ‘leading figures behind the Luton protest [were] a self-employed carpenter and another runs his own internet company’. Really! Now I’m definitely not going to vote for the EDL. I mean, carpenters – they’re all Nazis, especially Jesus! What the EDL should be full of, instead, are lecturers from the London School of Economics or from the Embrace Diversity Department at Staines University. Oh, and one STIOE member is an 'American student'! Which bit of that description don’t you like, Citizen Smith? It can’t be the ‘student’ part (the SWP is entirely made up of students, except for its ex-student leaders). So it must be the ‘American’ part.
Smith’s Account of the Stoke Demo
Citizen Smith is not very keen on either facts or the truth. Not if the facts and the truth get in the way of a good story or, more importantly, in the way of the Revolution or the leftist radicalisation of young British Muslims. He claims that the EDL, after the Stoke demo of 23rd January, ‘directed their anger on the Asian community, smashing up shops and attacking Asian people’. Everything is right about that account except for the facts. Firstly, within half an hour of the demo ending the city centre streets were more or less clear of EDL demonstrators. Secondly, which ‘Asian community’ is he talking about? There is no Asian community near the city centre of Stoke so how could EDL members ‘smash’ their shops? Finally, not a single riot van was overturned, unless it was overturned only in Smith’s head. I also doubt that a single Asian was ‘attacked’. I saw very few Asians in the city centre that day. I saw lots of black people. Some of them joined the EDL demo, I’m sorry to say, Mr Smith. And why not? The EDL has more in common with the average black person that the middle-class Trots who run the SWP/UAF Alliance.
What exactly does Smith mean by ‘anti-Muslim riot’ when there were no Muslims there to riot against? Or does this just sound good on paper? Perhaps it will give a few middle-class Trot/SWP students a sense of excitement and their first taste of a scrap.
The Far Left Loves the Far Right Really
If Smith uses the words ‘racist’, ‘thugs’, ‘Nazis’ enough times, he thinks he will be able to persuade all and sundry that the EDL really is full of racists, thugs and Nazis. Repeat a lie enough times and many people will believe it. I think some Nazi once said that. And Smith is himself a red fascist; so he should know… Oh, I forget. Socialist Worker recently argued that it was a big mistake to conflate the far right with the far left. Well, the SWP would say that, wouldn’t it? After all, it is far left. Not only that, but it justifies and defines itself almost exclusively by its opposition to the far right. What a nice little club the far right and far left belong to. They love each other really. They certainly need each other.
Racism?
Smith mentions the ‘terrifying rise in anti-Muslim racism since 9/11’. Apart from the fact that there has been no ‘terrifying’ rise in anti-Muslim attacks, what about the real rise in anti-Semitic attacks in Britain and Europe? You won’t hear much about that from Smith and his friends because many of them are anti-Semites. Oh, no, they are ‘anti-Zionists’. Their monomania and neurotic obsession with Israel has nothing whatsoever to do with the one thousand five hundred years of European anti-Semitism. It is a complete coincidence that Trots go to bed at night thinking about Israeli ‘crimes’ and the sad, sad Palestinians. They don’t worry that much about the plight of the southern Sudanese black Christians or animists, or the Kurds. No. It the behaviour of the Jews in Israel that really gets to them. After all, Israel is the ‘front line of America’.
Anyway. ‘Anti-Muslim racism’? What does that mean? That’s like, ‘anti-Tory homophobia’. It doesn’t even make sense. After all, people like Smith himself keep on telling us that Muslims don’t constitute a single race. That doesn’t matter to a Trot. As long as the phrase ‘ant-Muslim racism’ helps him recruit a few young naïve Muslims and a few naïve middle class students. He doesn’t really care how he recruits them. If lies, distortions, alliances with reactionaries (Muslims), etc. work, they he’ll do it. He will do anything to further the Revolution and increase militancy amongst young Muslims and non-Muslim students. Anything.
Martin ‘Runs With Muslims’ Smith the Street Fighter
Smith cleverly tells us about the ‘electoral and a street fighting wing’ of fascist organisations. Does that include red fascist organisations like the SWP and UAF? They certainly have a ‘street fighting wing’ and a nice wing (the good cops) which dupes members of the leading parties into joining the UAF.
The SWP can’t be electoral because it is against parliamentary democracy. However, that didn’t stop Smith from accusing the BNP of not believing in democracy and the vote. But that’s for far- right reasons, which are bad, not far-left reasons, which are good. Indeed Martin Smith himself is a street fighter. He is called ‘Martin “runs with Muslims” Smith’. There are photos of him running with Muslims, attacking two Birmingham shoppers, teasing a police dog, and haranguing a Birmingham shop keeper. He was also arrested for street fighting outside the BBC. In addition, he was reported to West Midland Police for attacking shoppers in Birmingham. So Smith is in favour of far-left street fighting, but against far-right street fighting. This is something everyone knows already.
Gramsci and Mr Smith
Smith mentions his hero, the ‘socialist’ Antonia Gramsci. Gramsci’s main thesis was simple. He knew that the revolution would not happen, at least not in the immediate future. So what to do? Gramsci suggested taking over, infiltrating and being entryists in important institutions, from the universities and colleges, to the media and even the church and police. The tactic was, basically, to take over these institutions and groups and make them ideologically communist or Trotskyist in nature. It has worked in the UK. The far left has ‘won the culture war, but lost the economic war’. But instead of out-and-out Trotskyism, which the British would never swallow, what we have instead is the Politically Correct Cultural Revolution. This is a nicer form of far leftism.
Martin Smith is the National Secretary of the Socialist Workers Party. He has heeded Gramsci’s words and he and the SWP have formed UAF. Smith also runs the Love Music Hate Racism (LMHR) show. He is certainly doing his bit for Gramsci and the Revolution. Martin ‘runs with Muslims’ Smith has even created his own version of Mussolini’s squadre d’azione. You can see him in action in a few photos and videos. I think his boot boys are called ‘Red and Green Action’. The ‘red’ stands for ‘red fascism’ (Trotskyism) and the ‘green’ stand for ‘Islamofascism’. I bet Smith’s red ‘sword’ is nine inches long when folded in half!
Revolution?
Smith indulges in some classic Trotskyite scare-mongering. In one breath he tells us that ‘the BNP gained 17 percent’ of the vote in Barking in 2005. That’s only 17% in one constituency. From this meagre evidence he then tells us in the next breath that ‘the Nazis are making serious breakthroughs at the ballot box’. Apart from 17% not really being a ‘breakthrough’, this vote involved a lot of protest votes from the electorate. And why is that? Because people like Smith and the middle class professionals who run the UAF/SWP Alliance, and the universities and much of the media, gave up on the white working class years ago. Smith and his mates now ‘run with Muslims’. They embrace other kinds of diversity – any kind of diversity, as long as it is not the white working class. For example, Martin writes that EDL members ‘talked about the fear of losing their jobs or businesses’. He doesn’t show any compassion for their plight or even an analysis of why things are the way they are. The only thing that he concludes from this is that such people become attracted to ‘typical… fascist/ultra right wing nationalist movements’. This just shows us why some people are doing precisely that, Mr Smith. Because you don’t give a shit about anyone except middle class students and Muslims. That is, anyone who will be fodder for the Trot Revolution, which the working class refuse to be. And that’s why the SWP gave up on the working class. It just wasn’t into the Revolution. Never mind. Let’s try the Muslims and Islamists instead.
Robert, could you please explain why the BNP are racist and anti-semitic? Because I don't see the signs.
They have Jewish councillors, long-term Sikh advisors (who will shortly be joining as full members). Many members have 'ethnic' partners. There's a sizeable West Indian contingent that vote BNP. The party's aim is the preservation of the indigenous population and its culture - no different, in the US, to organisations that preserve the culture of Native Americans.
People keep calling them "racist", "odious", "vile" without ever backing up their claims.
I genuinely want to know, Robert, because on the evidence I can see, I'll be voting for them in the forthcoming General Election, because I think they're our best hope for resisting Islam.
The BBC is in full, pro-Labour Party political propaganda mode in the run up to the British General Election in May.
Politically, the BBC is pro-Islam and anti-Wilders. The dhimmi BBC embraces the increasing Islamisation of Europe (including Britain); it does not reflect the views of most British people. But the BBC's political agenda is always there, paid for by a compulsory tax on the British people, who are, in effect, forced to subsidise this political propaganda.
"My own brother is so far out there somewhere I can't seem to talk sense to him. He's a "New World Orderer," a follower of Richard Maybury, who believes the muslims have always been victims of the west and the troubles STARTED with the Crusades! He hates Israel and agrees with the Palestinians 100%. We can't even talk anymore. Sorry to rant, I'm just going to go to bed."
Eleanor, I have the same situation. My younger brother, the PC MC "moral equivalencer." And this is someone who went to a private university for college (I did too).
I've never heard of this "Richard Maybury" - but I'm sure my bro would agree with his BS. Concerning the Palistinian/Israeli conflict in January '08 he sided with the P's. I couldn't believe it. Since then we NEVER talk about Islam or Muslims EVER. Any other subject is fine.
"Robert, could you please explain why the BNP are racist and anti-semitic? Because I don't see the signs."
I'd like to know that too as I know nothing about the BNP but see it regularly referred to here.
As well as the article that Dumbledore'sarmy kindly linked to above I have put up more photos and some short video clips this morning.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/26322
and
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/26324
I agree with Paul Murphy above. Its a class thing. The SWP/UAF types don't like football fans or any working men and women unless we know our place, which is subservient to the middle class, whether it is the commercial middle class (capitalists) or in their case the educated middle class (intelligensia).
Thanks for the link and there has STILL been no mention of the visit on BBC News!
"Thanks for the link and there has STILL been no mention of the visit on BBC News!"
The Burqa Broadcasting Company?
Well Elanor, if I am nuts, in what sane world would all this be happening? Yes, Elanor, the problem is with the left, but also with the capitalist right that wants cheap labor and open borders. In short it is the Western elites who have afflicted the West with Islam. If you do not destroy those, and that will never happen, Western civilization will come to an agonizing death.
The Muslims do what they are programmed to do. You cannot blame a savage for acting his nature. Blame those who are filling your homeland with dangerous savages. If the people on "Jihad Watch" cannot see that those who push Muslims and the Jihad on you are people who look just like you, then there is nothing I can say to convenience you.
The West is doomed- mark my words.
Elanor, how can you fight Muslims when they are just the symptom and not the underlying illness. The Western world is diseased with apathy, self-loathing, loss of civilizational confidence, decadence, greed, foolhardiness and a list of social ills. Muslims attack you because the traitors amongst you have let them in and attacked those who would defend you while the population goes about grazing like a herd of cows oblivious to a pack of predators. If you do not clean house, you have no chance against Muslims. And lady, what is so preposterous about a civil war. The Roman empire was formed after a civil war; so was modern Brittan (remember Oliver Cromwell). The US was first formed by one and another one saved its union. I did not say it was easy or pleasant- it never is, just necessary. Also, since I doubt that West has the stomach to address the issue, it will fester past the point of no return and the end will come, and yes it will come as sure as the Sun rising from the east.
The funny thing that Jihad watch thinks that informing the relatively few who visit the site will amount to something. It will not. This is based on a flawed assumption that the Western world is truly democratic and if enough people can be convinced the problem of the Islamic menace, it will go away.
The West in not democratic and the powerful who head the world support Islamic colonization and nothing that "we the people" say and do will change much.
Despair is one of the Seven Deadly Sins.
I commend to you, and to others here who may also be tempted to give way to the same species of despair (which is, in fact, a pre-emptive Surrender to Islam and its jumped-up demon-god) the following chapter of G K Chesterton's "The Everlasting Man", entitled, 'the five deaths of the Faith':
http://www.worldinvisible.com/library/chesterton/everlasting/part2c6.htm
And from Charles Williams, "The Descent of the Dove" (first published in 1939; note well the date):
"A thousand years before had been the Wars of the Frontiers and the mass-conversions. Those times had and have returned. The masses are still being re-converted to this or that principle or god...
"All that is certain is that, from the point of view of Christendom [and by that, Williams did not only mean *western*, or latin, Christendom, but the entire body of the Church in the world], whatever comes can be but a war of frontiers.
"The Centre cannot be touched. All that can possibly be done there has been done, outside Jerusalem, under Tiberias".