Fitzgerald: Obama constructs a reality that does not exist

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama's advisers will remove religious terms such as "Islamic extremism" from the central document outlining the U.S. national security strategy and will use the rewritten document to emphasize that the United States does not view Muslim nations through the lens of terror, counterterrorism officials said. - from this news story

This is not only a problem in the United States. It is a problem all over the Western world. How are the people of Western Europe to understand their own reality if they cannot speak truthfully, and openly, about the ideology of Islam? If they have noticed -- and they have at long last noticed -- that Muslim immigrants are particularly aggressive, demanding, hostile, and un-integrable, save always for a small, discrete minority of people who arrive as Muslims but become integrable only to the precise extent that they cease to take Islam to heart, or even, in the best cases, as a result of the mental freedom and physical security that the West offers them, become estranged permanently from Islam (for who knows better what Islam is all about, than Wafa Sultan, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Magdi Allam, and all the other outstanding and brilliant apostates who offer us their articulate testimonies?), should the peoples of Western Europe not allow themselves to employ the only vocabulary that allows them to discuss this matter?

And when they realize, as many of them now do, that this is a problem not in one, or two, or a half-dozen, countries in Western Europe, but in all of the them without exception, and perhaps most noticeably so in the two countries that have elevated Tolerance to the level of State Religions (i.e., Denmark and the Netherlands), are they to be rendered mute through a policy that fills the collective heart of the O.I.C. with satisfaction and deep pleasure?

If they realize that these Muslim immigrants pose a permanent problem that no group of non-Muslim immigrants poses, should they be reduced to whispers? Should their permitted lexicon be lacking such words as "Jihad" and "dhimmi" and "Jizyah" and even, it seems, "Islam" itself? The latter word is always and everywhere, if applied to the case, to be modified fore and aft, with such meretricious verbal tricks as "Islamism" and "Islamists," or sleight of word, as with "violent extremists" who have kidnapped -- in the alternative, hijacked -- "a great religion."

If Israelis wish to begin to grasp their own reality, and to comprehend why "peace-processes" and treaties mean nothing, but are merely part of one unending Treaty of Al Hudaibiyya being used to whittle away at the state of Israel, in order to push it back into conditions of maximum peril and hopeless vulnerability, they will need to use, and to hear others use, such words as "Islam" and "Jihad" and "dhimmi." If the Hindus, Sikhs, and other non-Muslims of India are to grasp the permanent threat to them, one not assuaged by a possible surrender of Kashmir, but that goes on, unassuageable, forever, they will need to use such words as "Jihad" and "dhimmi" and "Dar al-Islam." If the Thais, or the Russians, or the Filipinos, wish to understand what it is that they are dealing with, they must -- they cannot but -- use the words that exist to properly explain this reality. The Christians of the southern Sudan, and the Christians of southern Nigeria, have used such words as "Jihad" before. They understand, perhaps better than those in the West, what Islam is all about, because in black Africa, the Arabs and those whom they have islamized and arabized have been able to treat the black African non-Muslims as roughly, as murderously, as they wish. They have had no need to engage in the kind of stuff we see Muslims engaging in here -- Interfaith-Healing, Outreach Nights at the Mosque, taqiyya masters such as Tariq Ramadan spreading their smiling word in order to charm or confuse the unwary and the ill-prepared, and to keep up this mountebank's patter at such a pace that no one who speaks quietly, logically, and with attention to the evidence can get in a word, or if he can get in a word, can truly and properly be heard by those unwary and those ignorant Infidels over the steady tariq-ramadanian hum.

Those who make policy and construct policies are dealing with a reality that they refuse to learn adequately about. In so refusing, they hobble themselves from thinking sensibly, and at times imaginatively, about what makes the most sense, what would weaken the Camp of Islam and thus the threat to all non-Muslims from Islam and its adherents. They prefer to throw money, and men, and materiel, at the problem. The wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, before we are through, will have cost well over three trillion dollars.

Think of what that could have done, as far as this country goes. We fight over a few hundred million here and there, we fight about health care and social security, and we keep avoiding, in some collective mental paralysis, connecting these budgetary woes with the sums being spent -- futilely, and quite unnecessarily, in the lands of Muslims, in order to bring them (for how long? forever?) prosperity, to bribe them into (most temporarily) being "our friends." This "friendship" consists of their not becoming or giving harbor to those "violent extremists" who, we tell ourselves, are a discrete, isolated group, when in fact any Muslim who now, or in the future, for whatever reason, chooses to take Islam fully to heart, can become one of those "violent extremists." And long before that, Muslims have shown, in thought, word, and deed, that they do take Islam sufficiently seriously to attempt to press its case everywhere, to change our legal and political institutions and our social arrangements, to interfere with our academic teaching and thinking about Islam, to interfere with our freedom of speech, and our ideas of what can or cannot be spoken and written. They do all this unapologetically, with violence or the threat of violence. What's more, they conduct, unhindered, vast campaigns of Da'wa targeted at the most vulnerable and also the potentially most dangerous kinds of people -- the psychically and economically marginal -- who, in converting to Islam, add to the security threat to all the non-Muslims. Those former fellow citizens, now changed utterly, become a threat to us and the political institutions of this country, and the physical security of its citizens.

Because of the ignorance of Islam at the top, we have instead locked ourselves into a Tar Baby policy that requires the expenditure of vast sums on places that cannot, because of Islam, ever embrace advanced Western democracy. They cannot -- because of Islam -- ever be our true allies, or ever be counted on to help suppress the forces of violent Islam. They will, however, do what they can to divert outside their countries, to the Infidels, the fury of those who are working against their own regimes, as the Saudi government's "re-education" efforts of Al-Qaeda supporters consists not in ending their Muslim fanaticism, which the Al-Saud share or promote, but in redirecting their murderous fury away from the Al-Saud themselves to the Western Infidels who deserve whatever those local fanatics wish to inflict on them -- just please leave us, the nice Al-Saud, alone.

Never before has such sustained stupidity, in the face of a decade of what should have led to some obvious conclusions, been exhibited by the Western world. Even with Hitler and the Nazis, there were only six years from his resistible rise in 1933 to the outbreak of war in 1939, when suddenly "everyone" appeared to have "known all along" what Churchill and a few others, and only they, had known. We have had perfectly good information -- for those who do not put their trust in the New York Times but go online -- about the Jihad, in its violent manifestations, and in those that employ non-violent means, for nearly a decade. We have had the vain efforts in Iraq and the vain effort now in Afghanistan, where the actual goals are never clearly stated, because to even attempt to do that would expose the whole enterprise to the quizzical looks, and the criticism, and even the mockery, that the assumptions upon which it rests deserve.

Eventually reality will break in. But when? At what considerable unnecessary future cost? Perhaps there are those in the Obama Administration who have never read "Politics and the English Language" by Orwell, though it is now a staple in freshman composition courses. Perhaps they are unaware of how Hitler and Stalin, refashioned the lexicon, or how such words as, for example, "People's Democracy" came to describe the most despotic of regimes.

The Obama Administration does not strike me as full of people terribly interested in, or impressed by, faith -- in the way that George Bush, a born-again Christian, was so impressed with what religion had done for him that he simply couldn't believe that something -- Islam -- called a "religion" could be other than good.

So what is it that prevents the Obama Administration from learning about, analyzing, studying the history of, Islam and Islamic conquest, as it would, presumably, anything else? What makes it so fearful, in the councils and corridors of power, of people speaking truthfully about such matters, or at least asymptotically coming close to that truth, so that they are now apparently being deliberately told they cannot use the very lexicon they most need, and now most lack?

The self-inflicted intellectual wounds here will have, do already have, fantastic consequences -- not good ones for us, but very good for the Camp of Islam -- in the world we like to call "real." But the Obama Administration is engaged in the political construction of a reality that does not exist, and is leading itself, and those whom it presumes to instruct and protect, astray.

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President Barak Obama's world of make-believe!

"The fault, dear Caesar, lies not in the stars, but in the ourselves...." William Shakespeare, "Julius Caesar".

When will we reach the tipping point? When will we awaken to the sword being held to our throats?

Our leaders fail to protect us. The jihad, by both stealth and slaughter continues and, like Nero, we surround ourselves with entertainment while the barbarians are not simply at the gates, but are within the city. They spy on our councils, infiltrate our armed services, deceive us with taquiyya and always further the Jihad until the very "rocks and trees cry out - "O muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me! Come and slay him!"

There is no son of York to brighten the winter of our discontent. There is only the grim reality of the endless struggle against those who wish to enslave us. Never submit.

Marxism has always been a defective thought system. From the beginning, when Karl & Freddie faked up the income distribution statistics to the point of being dastisticks in Das Kapital, it has been all downhill.

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I wonder, is the common man in North Korea or Venezuela as confused as a pipe smoking professor working his sinecure at a prestige diploma mill? As confused as a technocrat or a news entertainer or a preist, pastor or rabbi?

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At least the Commie Common Man doesn't have to endure Marixsm's progeny: Multiculturalism. Now that's some tough duty.

Isn't this the guy who was sold to the American public as "intelligent?"

And now he wallows in the shoes of Jacqui Smith, Jack Straw and what was the name of that other sugar plum in the UK who dreamed up this head in the sand "strategy?"

Hazel Blears, there you go. How could I forget!

However, in case of the Obamessiah, there are more sinister forces at work.

Its not only that he's a plant, he does it deliberately. This guy does everything to destroy the US from inside out.

I am not sure what to call this new policy beast bore by the obama administration. This is a combination of several policies. We know of the Ostrich policy of ignoring the problem by burying our heads in the sand hoping that the problem will go away. This goes hand in hand with the appeasement policy of appeasing the problem hoping that it will not be a problem anymore because the problem will see us as the good guys. We see this all the time before ww2 to the current Indian policies. However Obama has gone a step further. He has successfully married these two with the Stockholm syndrome policies of opening siding with our enemies and blaming the victims. This in a vain attempt to win over our enemies to our side. This is the height of stupidity and narcissism.

" President Barack Obama's advisers will remove religious terms such as "Islamic extremism" from the central document outlining the U.S. national security strategy"

The strategy of doing away with all our intelligence, and defensive capabilities, turning our allies into enemy's, and basically screwing the American people'

The name of the document is flawed. It needs to be changed to "the US national insecurity strategy."

Now that's "change" you can be afraid of.

Eventually reality will break in. But when? At what considerable unnecessary future cost?

My bet is a major Jihad war terror strike on American soil, one that will make 9/11 pale in comparison.

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Did you know that only a small percentage of cargo containers are inspected for terror weapons? 5% tops. We got fed some mistaken Yale/Harvard arithmetic when Prez Dubya said inspecting every box would be "impossible" even though doing so would require a few thousand inspectors, far less than the numbe rof new IRS agents to be brought onto the federal rolls to enforce our new socialist healthcare plan.

Of course we are going to, an have been ignoring the Obama Administrations efforts to feed us pablum and attempts to deconstruct what drives Islam because we know, and we have learned what the aspirations of fundamental Islam are,we have read the the Islamic doctrine of jihad and its easily identified 164 jihadists versus.

Janet Napolitano Calling what is Jihad Man made disasters are insulting to our intelligence, this continuous need to play down what drives Islam is foolish in every way when one clearly sees and understands the determinants that drive Islam through the Quran, and hadiths. Islam gains strength through our efforts at appeasement,our multicultural, and political correct bend, and our civilian court system.

They take full advantage of our trial lawyers for any suspected and perceived impropriety that may effect them. Indeed it is the impact of the trial lawyers and the land of outrageous lawsuits who control and create our politically correct behavior in America and the Muslims take full advantage of it at every opportunity. They go as far as referring to themselves as a race in their never ending pursuit of victimhood.

If one fails to see the growing efforts of Muslim fundamentalists in the US to undermine this country they are clearly fooling themselves. There are on hundreds of our University campuses that deal with the aggressive actions of the Muslims Students Assoc.(MSA). There are breaking stories of Muslims going into stores and buying dozens of cellphones from Fresno, California to other smaller cities, there are stories of Muslims constantly asking military personal casual questions about their base or how many are leaving and going where. Only now is the military telling them to not talk about deployments, Etc. to strangers and even to their families. There have been cases of Muslims trying to deliver phony packages in attempt to gain entrance to our military bases. The good thing is that people are reporting these incidences more and more to the FBI.

The "strategy" of bho is the same of the msm's strategy or as I call it the "mission" to make non-muslims especially christians so angry that they notice that the only way their voices will be heard is through violence so that they can say that islam is not at the root of the problem of terrorism.
And it appears that they have already accomplished the "mission."

The great pretend game of our times continues by the ruling elites but the rank and file in one Western nation after another are in the early stages of understanding just how wretched Islam is. And this understanding will only grow with each passing year. Eventually the present elites will be written up as some of the greatest and most destructive fools of all time. Obama will be close to the top of this list. This will be his legacy.

Wellington, Well said and you are exactly correct.

Fitzgerald: Obama constructs a reality that does not exist

Obama didn't have to lift a finger to construct this Second Reality (to borrow a term from Voegelin). All the heavy lifting was done by innumerable Westerners over the past 50-odd years to make the PC MC paradigm dominant and mainstream (and by many more pioneers of PC MC further back in time, at least as far back as Montaigne in the 17th century).

There is nothing that Obama has said or done about Islam that differs remarkably from what most on the Left, in the Center, and on the Right presume axiomatically about Islam and about Muslims.

To focus unduly on Obama is a specific example of the problem of focusing unduly on Leftism -- as though Leftism explains why the majority of Republicans and politicians on the Right continue to parrot politically correct multi-culturalist nonsense about Islam and about Muslims.

The problem is much broader and deeper than Left or Right. And the problem is much subtler and more complex than any pat conspiracy theory about "Elites".

The problem is that nearly everyone in the West over the past 50-odd years has come to accept, sincerely, a shift in worldview which includes in its progressive sweep certain axioms that continue to confer benefits Muslims and their culture, long after the evidence has shown that Muslims and their culture are richly undeserving of such deference and respect.

We readers at Jihadwatch have long recognized a worldwide phenomenon that MOSLEMS MONOPOLIZE TERROR.

Perhaps a discrete succinct question to our multicultural drug smoking leaders and their ignorant subjects should be whether they have noticed MOSLEMS HAVE MONOPOLIZED TERROR. This may force all to rethink the chilling reality that moslems have monoplized worldwide violence.

The religionofpeace.com keeps detailed and sobbering statistics of worldwide moslem murders. Since September 11 in murders alone there have been 15106 people murdered. People injured by moslem terrorists tend to run 4 times the number murdered.

To paraphrase Revered Wright, Allah Aqba no!no!no! Allah N'Qba. (Allah is the greatest, no! no! no! Allah is the source of our misfortune!)

The world situation is unbearable. Human sacrifice cannot be justified by allowing any religion simply to name human sacrifice as a sacrement invoking thereafter a worldwide right to be treated like any other religion. Any religion that allows human sacrifice of its followers or non followers is fundamentally criminal, flawed and violates fundamental human rights. We have a responsibility as a free people to denouce and to put an end to this moslem mayhem.

The ludicrous omission of direct reference to Islam is a result of our over-involvement in Islamic countries. Having embarked on the Mission Impossible of providing opportunities of self-expression to huge numbers of latent Islamic moderates who will supposedly establish peaceful democracies, we are deathly afraid of offending them while we pursue the extremists.
Having staked so much on a fundamentally delusional view of the possibilities in the Islamic countries, we need a polyannish view of Islam to complete the virtual reality.
What seems to ge forgotten here, is that our government's first duty is to the people that elected them, and they need to be told the honest truth. Of course, it helps if those in authority actually know what that is.

Actually, Hugh, it might be worse than you think.
In Sudan, meddling of the peace and reconciliation UN types, combined with a host of other factors including ignorance, food insecurity, the existence of Muslim relatives, wishful thinking,isolation, and so on, have resulted in many black non-Muslims holding the viewpoint that it is only the Bashir government which has created a problem by "using" an otherwise okay religion to separate them from their Muslim "brothers".
And after a history in which the whole range of Islamic perfidy has been given full expression, "tolerance and diversity" is the official approach chosen by the Government of South Sudan, and they attend Eid festivals, encourage Muslim traders to take up residence and validate da'wa, merely asking that "politics" be kept out of it. (Yes, really.)Mosques are being built, residents are woken before dawn by the call to prayer.
The war, apparently, and the reasons for it, are to be forgotten in the new climate of appeasement and political correctness.
Did it come from us, this attitude, or is it something to do with Islam itself that people even in the line of fire, even refugees from Islam, deny the truth about it? Is there one country in the world which is resisting Islamization? Japan, maybe?
(Just checked. Islam is growing in Japan, but the poor things are suffering from lack of facilities, halal food, schools etc. 64,000 Japanese Muslims and 70-100,000 foreign Muslims residing in Japan, and no doubt spreading the word. Apparently some Japanese women are marrying immigrant workers and then discovering the beauty of Islam and converting. It is a wonderful, moving story...
"Women are attracted to Islam because they want freedom. Islam gives them independence because they do not have to be a slave of any man. Islam is against moral aggression against women. The chastity and honor of women are protected. No illicit relations are allowed. All these things attract women," said Siddiqi, director of Japanese Islamic Centre.
It's happening in Japan.)

There does seem to be growing awareness among the citizenry of Western nations that there is something seriously wrong with Islam, and that it invariably despoils whatever it touches. The race is to see whether people will become aroused enough by the outrages of elected bums enabling the jihad to throw them out before a blow up occurs.

In my more philosophical moments I like to muse that this is all the result of the hippy generation of the 60s and 70s coming to power and forcing their views on the rest of us by way of infiltrating the schools and universities and textbook review commissions, and greasing the path for guys like Obama, who is unqualified by any objective measure to be president, to ascend to the top. If I were generous I'd like to think of it in terms of the cultural pendulum that has reached the end of its Leftward swing, and is now poised to reverse its direction. The period of the cultural pendulum is about one-to-two generations, about the span of a career, and that's been about how long these guys have had. These old hippies are set to retire, and we should help them out the door and assist the follow-on generation to come in and throw out the trash, clean up the place, wash the windows, and otherwise make it a decent place to live again.

I am of that hippie generation, Eastview, and my old cronies - some of whom I kept up with for sentimental reasons, but who now thoroughly despise me and won't speak to me - have a pretty weird view of the world. They are pacifists, of course, but utterly indifferent to the fact that their belief system has helped create an explosive situation for their kids and grandkids. One even said to me that it didn't matter if Muslims take over within a generation because HE will be dead by then. HE! And his four children, who he had indulged, who have been given every toy, every freedom? Well, bugger them, I suppose: at least their father had enjoyed inhabiting the moral high ground for all his miserable life.
They make me so angry. Spoilt brats - still!

that’s very sad, the views expressed by your fellow former hippies have come full circle to being grossly selfish and uncaring. I mean these people when they were young were against the establishment because they were selfish and uncaring. The establishment didn't care about the planet , they didn't care about the kind of world that their children will inherit. They the hippies and young people will remake this world for a better tomorrow. There will be true liberation, there will be an age of Aquarius. But look now they don't give damn. They only care for them selves. What a pity.

Well: at least your 'hippie' ex-friend had *four* children.

Better than having two. Better than having none.

Looks like the Resistance has to work on reaching and waking up those four kids and the other kids like them. Don't forget the axiom that kids rebel against their parents. This factor could work in our favour.

Contrast our current leaders, including Bush, to those in WWII. A telegram sent by Secretary of State James Byrnes to General MacArthur in October, 1945, established American policy in post-war Japan:

"Shintoism, insofar as it is a religion of individual Japanese, is not to be interfered with. Shintoism, however, insofar as it is directed by the Japanese government, and as a measure enforced from above by the government, is to be done away with. People would not be taxed to support National Shinto and there will be no place for Shintoism in the schools. Shintoism as a state religion—National Shinto, that is—will go . . . Our policy on this goes beyond Shinto . . . The dissemination of Japanese militaristic and ultra-nationalistic ideology in any form will be completely suppressed. And the Japanese Government will be required to cease financial and other support of Shinto establishments."

Substitute Islam wherever Shinto appears and we may have had the beginnings of a good policy in Iraq or Afghanistan, but it is far too late for that now. Can anyone imagine Condeleeza Rice or Hillary Clinton issuing such instructions on orders from their presidents?

From the article, "No Substitute for Victory" The Defeat of Islamic Totalitarianism by John David Lewis.

Source: http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2006-winter/no-substitute-for-victory.asp

The baby-boom generation, Eastview, of which I am a member, is the most pathetic generation in American history. It thought it understood so much and, in reality, understood so little. I myself was snookered by its jejune assessments of the establishment when in my late teens and early twenties, but fortunately I outgrew this attempt to extend adolescence indefinitely. Many have not been so fortunate and thus make up the older and pathetic liberal establishment, which will destory the West if allowed to because its adherents have opened their minds so much that their brains have fallen out. Obama is nothing more than the inevitable end result of thinking gone greatly awry, even though he is of a generation that came after the baby boomers. And so Obama is illustrative of what erroneous and pampered thinking can result in further down the line.

The greatest enemy of the West is not the Islamic world. The Islamic world is the second greatest enemy of the West. The greatest enemy is the modern liberal mindset. Civilizations ordinarily don't collapse from without but from within. My sad-ass excuse for a generation functions as Exhibit One of this truth. Time indeed, for the pendulum to swing the other way.

Correction to my immediate post above. Obama is himself technically a baby-boomer. The baby-boom generation is 1946-1964 and Obama was born in 1961. But everything else I averred above still stands.

After the Christmas Day bomb attack there was talk of a "Complete System Failure" ..well I guess they got that all fixed up.

OT Today Putin was commemorating the Katyn Forest Massacre. The execution of 20,000 Polish POW's by Stalin during WWII. A staggering crime. The entire armed forces officer class, landowners, factory owners, lawyers, priests, officials, policemen, all shot in the head. Stalin wasn't shy about settling ideological disputes by slaughter.
Obama doesn't want to talk about Islamic Jihad, but it's here and when it does come knocking; it blows up grinning CIA agents, barracks full of sleeping Marines, it takes out advanced missile cruisers with a harbour pilot boats, and God willing, it doesn't leap over tall buildings, it knocks'em down three at a time.
But for now la la-la la-la.

Putin didn't apologise today, he said it was revenge for what the Poles did to them in the 1920's.

PJG and Wellington: I, too, am part of that baby boomer generation (actually, from just slightly before), and look back on the 60s and 70s as marking the onset of a period of national social insanity from which we will not easily, and likely never fully, recover. But I'm placing my hopes on a younger generation of conservatives that I see springing up, albeit still largely below the radar of the MSM.

Who was it said, to the effect that, a young person who is not liberal has no heart, whereas an older person who is not conservative has no brains?

CORRECTION:

OBAMA IS AN "OVERSEAS CONTINGENCY OPERATION"

... the consciousness of “a person who refuses to live in existential tension toward the ground” is still human; and because “his consciousness continues to intend a form of reality, he will generate substitute images of reality in order to gain order and direction for his existence and actions in the world.” This is the ‘second reality’ in which the person lives.

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... look back on the 60s and 70s as marking the onset of a period of national social insanity...

Oh buck up, Eastview. The situation is turning. For example, only yesterday the gubmint announced that not all terrorism is Islamic, and that's a true statement. Maybe 99% of actual terror strikes, and 100% of global terror threat. So our Prez Osama ain't a total fraud.

This is not to defend Obama and his cadre of fellow travelers but how is it possible for people to have a firm grasp of reality as adults when higher education "teaches down" the value of pure unadulterated truth. The big change came after WWII when our educational system was thoroughly infiltrated with Marxist propaganda, under which, truth is rendered obsolete. Anyone remember the Stalinist USSR's five year plans? They always had a new five year (mythical)plan that was not based on reality. It was pure bunk but they believed it. They needed this to enjoy their "utopia".

People who seek the truth can more readily adapt to reality. When elementary and secondary schools were focused on the "Three R's", students learned how to think for themselves and also developed a desire for the truth. I have always reminded elementary educators that handheld calculators in the hands of a child during class will rob their students of their ability to rationalize in terms of numbers (which is the ultimate reality). Today we see an entire society that now can't balance their checkbook, make proper change, understand the need for a budget, or conduct their lives in a fiscally sound manner. Our entire educational system is at fault in this major national problem.

Eastview, Wellington, and PJG, The hippy generation was the result of a book written by Dr. Spock on caring for children. Up until that book, the rule was to discipline children in a traditional manner. Spock's book was universally accepted for some reason and people stopped the discipline (i.e. showing the child who is boss) on their children in favor of rationalization. A 2,3,4,5 or 6 year old cannot be rationalized with in any way since they have not reached the age of reason. And yet, a child will develop his tendencies toward rebellion before that age. Fortunately, all children were not raised that way but we have lost many of our best and brightest to Dr. Spock.

How come there is not more follow up discussion of the conference held in Marden,Turkey last month by Islamic scholars in which they attempted to disconnect violence from jihad and about which RS, himself, said:

This is very positive and important, depending on what they mean. "Tolerance and peaceful co-existence" could refer to the arrangement of dhimmitude under Sharia, which Muslims often refer to as a tolerant system that makes for peace, or to Muslims and non-Muslims living together as equals under a non-Sharia government. This needs clarification.

See:http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/islamic-scholars-criticize-ancient-fatwa-calling-for-jihad.html

Where is the search for clarification, Hugh? RS? Longhaired, disillusioned, ex-potsmoking babyboomers turned conservative?

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Hamas-linked CAIR

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Heidi Beirach, Southern Poverty Law Center

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Khaleel Mohammed

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Dar al-Hayat newspaper (Saudi Arabia)

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