Pakistan used jihadists as tool in Kashmir

OT - sorry for that, but I think people here will appreciate this. Ralph Peters will be in CSPAN2 (BookTV) this Monday at 7 AM Eastern time talking about his book "Endless War." He gives a stirring speech supporting Israel, freedom, and civilization, while explicitly pointing to the failures and non-contributions of Arab culture in general and the Saudis (yes - he mentions them by name) in particular. If you are a devout JW-er, you will stand up and cheer. Set your DVR.

Oops - correction - that's 5 AM Eastern. Thus the DVR comment.

I think the US is out of money, but if Rasoool can find a billion or so dollars laying around, he could send it to Pakistan to help root out all that corruption...The billions already donated don't seem to be doing the job...

""The Pakistani military and ISI also used and supported some of these groups in the Kashmir insurgency after 1989. ...."

and they still do so today....and in more ways than just promoting Anti-India activities...

@JIhadwatchers

I do not understand what is the big deal here ? The Indians support Baluchi terrorists in Pakistan and the Tamil tigers in Sri Lanka. The Americans and Israelis support the Marxist Mujaheddin-e-Khalq (People's Mujaheddin), the PKK and the Jundullah terrorists in Iran.

If Pakistan just copycat it's more democratic friends in supporting non-state actors then all you people start to bark.

@JIhadwatchers

I do not understand what is the big deal here ? The Indians support Baluchi terrorists in Pakistan and the Tamil tigers in Sri Lanka. The Americans and Israelis support the Marxist Mujaheddin-e-Khalq (People's Mujaheddin), the PKK and the Jundullah terrorists in Iran.

If Pakistan just copycat it's more democratic friends in supporting non-state actors then all you people start to bark.

I don't understand why India puts up with all of those Muslims when virtually all the Hindus were expelled from Pakistan. Same thing with Israel. If there's no fairness in Islam, then why be fair to Islam?

Muslims have issued death threats against Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the creators of "South Park."

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/202048.php

I love "South Park." I love how they mock and ridicule OBL, Islam, and Mohammed. Watch the most recent Episode 1405 and see the costume they put Mohammed in! Oh it's so funny!

In the dirty game of world politics even the US used Jihadists such as the Taliban when they tried to drive the former Soviet Union out of Afghanistan.

In view of the inherent evil that is located at the core of Jihadi Islam, this has been demonstrated time and again as unforgivable folly.

When you make a pact with the devil it is only the devil's cause that is ultimately served.

There is no hope for the war on terror unless it acknowledged and waged against Jihadi Islam.

Deb,the muslim masquerading with a Hindu name, gives the classic Pakistani defense that since India is fomenting trouble in Baluchistan, it gives Pakistan every right to align with Taliban and other terrorists to attack India. But the problem is that apart from Pakistan, no one is able to show any proof of the involvement of Indian intelligence agencies in Baluchistan. Pakistan always says that it has proof of Indian involvement, but was never able to convince any one apart from its own people.

On the other hand, there were numerous well substantiated & documented evidences by US & other countries about the involvement of Pakistan's intelligence agencies in various terrorist attacks against India & other countries.Consider the audio tapes of phone conversations of Pakistan based terrorists & intelligence officials giving instructions to Mumbai jihadists to kill the pregnant Jewish woman & her husband obtained by US or consider the case of Daood Sayed Gilani, who is in US custody at the moment and who is considered to have received financial & other aid from Pakistan's intelligence to carry out Mumbai attacks. And US even confirmed that Pakistan's intelligence agencies are responsible for attacks on Indian embassy in Pakistan.

Anyway, more importantly, this UN report also shows how Pakistan, which has a state policy of terrorism, is playing a double game by aligning with Taliban & other terrorists on one hand & at the same time receiving billions of dollars from US to fight them.

The bulk of Britain's Muslim immigrants are from Pakistan.

They represent a large proportion of the unemployed, rather than working using the jizya of state handouts. And remember the more off spring, the more money. Who will challenge this cultural 'right'?

They represent a large proportion of the prison population. Crimes are overwhelmingly violent. Rape and pimping of white girls a growing activity. They deal drugs, commit immigration fraud and trafficking, are involved in id fraud and credit card scams. Once in jail refuse to accept the norm, rather it's cultural 'rights' all the way down the line.

They are antisemitic, quick to massive provocative and hugely destructive demonstration. They assault police, intimidate passers by and usualy are released with no repercussion. After all, it's their 'rights', isn't it?

They refuse to assimilate and rather than joining in, congregate in ghetto's festooned with discarded trash, plastic garbage bags and the stench of ancient curry.

More and more, the mode of dress resembles that of Karachi, the robes, the short pants, the sandals, the Planet of the Ape style mustacheless beards, the all enveloping burkhas, the children often looking precisely the same.

And last but not least they are the would be, or actual terrorists. We are not 'their people', we are koofs, or gora and in a kind of role reversal occupying their land and areas.

When huge civil disruption happens, and happen it will, they will be the ones fighting our state and the infidel.

Once passive and model citizens, now in sufficient numbers they've broken cover and the real agenda is paramount.

Here's link for a taster of how it is. Notice at the end the dhimmi police woman acting against the white cameraman with no second thought.

They are now de facto masters and we are now the strangers in our own lands.

youtube.com/watch?v=6h2XBZz88VE&feature=player_embedded

The use of 'non-state actors', for maximum plausible deniability, has always been one tactic that Muslim states, within the Ummah, have used against their non-Muslim neighbours, to wear them down, weaken them by attrition. Call it 'swarming'.

Who wants to bet that Malaysia and Indonesia don't know *all* about the jihad gangs that are wreaking havoc in Thailand and the southern Philippines?

I seem to recall a story about a Muslim chief in the Philippines who somehow couldn't seem to do anything about raids carried out from within his domains, by Muslim bandits, against nearby non-Muslims. But then an Infidel admiral - I believe it was an American? - cut to the chase and told this Muslim boss that if the raids continued *he*, said Muslim boss, would be held responsible, and his political HQ would be bombarded from the sea until the raids stopped. Funny: the raids just...stopped, after that.

I am sorry I cannot give more details than that. Maybe someone else knows the full story and can give proper references. But it sounds entirely plausible.