Senators subpoena Obama administration, say it is not cooperating with Fort Hood probe

"It is impossible for us to avoid reaching the conclusion that the departments simply do not want to cooperate with our investigation." "Obama administration subpoenaed in Fort Hood probe," by Thomas Ferraro for Reuters, April 19 (thanks to Benedict):

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two U.S. lawmakers subpoenaed the Obama administration on Monday for information sought in a congressional probe of last year's shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Texas, that left 13 soldiers dead and an Army psychiatrist charged with murder.

Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Joe Lieberman, an independent, and Susan Collins, the panel's top Republican, took the action after the departments of Justice and Defense failed to provide the materials by Monday's deadline.

The two senators have been trying for months to obtain documents and be provided access to witnesses that they say are critical to their investigation of the shooting spree at Fort Hood in November that ended with 13 soldiers killed and dozens wounded.

An Army psychiatrist, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, has been charged by the military with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted murder. The case drew heavy criticism after it became known Hasan had been in contact with an anti-American Muslim figure sympathetic to al Qaeda.

In a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder, who heads the Justice Department, and Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Lieberman and Collins wrote: "It is impossible for us to avoid reaching the conclusion that the departments simply do not want to cooperate with our investigation."

"It is with great disappointment and reluctance that we have directed service of subpoenas to you which demand disclosure of the requested information by Monday, April 26, 2010," they added....

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Not only are we unwilling to fight against Sharia, we obfuscate fatual reality and actively hinder vigorous prosecution of Moslem activists for their felonies. Major Hasan's is only the best known crime.

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It'll be interesting to see how they handle Major Hasan's explicit invocation of Islamic scriptures. But we know this much: there will be no public recognition of the role Mohammed and Allah played in inspiring this mass murder.

""It is with great disappointment and reluctance that we have directed service of subpoenas to you which demand disclosure of the requested information."

This is a good first step, but I think that they need a little less disappointment, and a little more legal aggression, in demanding that the White house act in the best interests of the American people.

"It's not Islamic Jihad, it's a man-caused disaster." - Hussein, our Muslim president

Chavez style. When did America become a third-rate banana 'republic'.

While they are at it they should have subpoenaed Obamas long form birth cirtificate, and his collage records.

Born in Kenya, funded by Islamic Saudis...

That is "hope, and change," you can be afraid of.

Get him out!!!

November 7th 2008!

What reason would the administration have from withholding eveidence from Homeland security?
This sounds as though its a little pro-bono work on the part of Eric Holder.
Homeland security should be fully complied with since there is proof that Hasan was in communication with a known terrorist.
The question that needs to be asked is what investigation is the White House doing that could be comprimised? The prosocution of Hasan? He killed 13 wounded 35 and there were I dont know how many witnesses. If Mr. Holder cant slam dunk this one then maybe somebody needs to dig Johnnie Cochran up and get him a new suit.
I smell a rat in the wood pile here.

"When did America become a third-rate banana 'republic'?"

The first step was taken when the Iranian Islamic regime committed an act of war against the U.S. by seizing the American embassy, and Peanut Jimmy did nothing about it except whine. Since then, Bushes 1 & 2, Clinton, and now BHO, have only made matters worse.


"An Army psychiatrist, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, has been charged by the military with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted murder. The case drew heavy criticism after it became known Hasan had been in contact with an anti-American Muslim figure sympathetic to al Qaeda."

"It is impossible for us to avoid reaching the conclusion that the departments simply do not want to cooperate with our investigation."

Oh...We wouldn't want a Muslim to "look" bad now would we, and at any cost either.....what's the big hurry in investigating why 13 infidels were murdered in cold blood anyway?

Hello American-Sheeple-People, How's that Hopey-Changey thing working out for ya? You know this Obama CHANGE thing is only in the 1st gear yet, I'm sure there is loads more CHANGE YOU NEED coming your way, all the way over the cliff.

Aren't you thrilled you voted for this clown?

Lieberman and Collins wrote: "It is impossible for us to avoid reaching the conclusion that the departments simply do not want to cooperate with our investigation."

Surely the Senators are mistaken. Didn't BHO promise us the "most open and transparent" administration ever? He wasn't lying to us, was he? Hmmm?

When did America become a third-rate banana 'republic'.

At the last election. This administration thinks it is almighty , they will probably just ignore the Senators.

"Didn't BHO promise us the "most open and transparent" administration ever? He wasn't lying to us, was he? Hmmm"

Taqiaa. Defending the faith. *smirk*

No one can force Rasool Obama to turn over any information he is hiding. Not his birth certificate, not his school records or selective service number...nothing...If anyone ever builds a Presidential Library for him, it will claim he was born in 2008, and will be mostly empty...Rasool does not cooperate with any ones investigations...I guess the Senators haven't figured that out yet...

Barack Hussein Obama reports not to America but to the OIC -- those 57 Islamic states mentioned via freudian slip on the campaign trail. Deal first with the treasonist-in-chief; all the others should fall into place.

Does anyone else find it relevant that Nasan chose 5 November - Guy Fawkes Day - for his massacre?

"Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot..."

"Aren't you thrilled you voted for this clown [Obama]?"

Not me, I didn't. I wasn't fooled by Hussein for one second. But then again, I'm not a delusional MoonBat.

"Does anyone else find it relevant that Nasan chose 5 November - Guy Fawkes Day - for his massacre?"

Nah.

Without doubt OBL deliberately chose September 11 due to the Battle of Vienna on September 11, 1683 - when the Mohammedans were defeated by the Polish King Jan Sobieski and his army.

But - Guy Fawkes Day is not relevant to Islamic history in any way, so I think it's just coincidence.

Probably the usual technique of seeking to humiliate.

Basically, "We should not have to do this if your administration were doing its job properly. So we will express 'disappointment' that it was necessary to issue a subpoena' and 'reluctance' that we even had to do it."

This approach is so common in the pseudo-polite UK politics. First express concern that it is even necessary to ask, then get the information, then ask the government to justify why they were unwilling to provide it in the first place, then ask what circumstance altered for them to change their previous position, who actually made the decision on each occasion, who decided to withold it and why, etc ,etc.

Every stage is an opportunity to humiliate the administration for inconsistency, hiding something, changing position, not being adequately informed/advised, mismanagement of subordinates, etc.

OK Jane -- what about this:

This is kind of out there, but "Allah's wind of destruction" plays a major role in Islam's delusional 'end times' ideology. These winds, they are told, will bring death to all but those who submit to Mohammed's "prophecies."

I found this at an obscure web site* after reading up on this 'winds of Allah' business:

"The terrorist Katrina [the hurricane] is a soldier of Allah....It is almost certain that this is a wind of torment and evil that Allah has sent to this American empire."

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Islamists loathe -- but study -- our culture, which has declined along with Hollywood no doubt. Could "Gone with the Wind" have come to their attention by any chance? Vivian Leigh's date of birth is 5 November. Allah despises women even when submissive; Scarlett O'Hara was NEVER submissive.

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* http://forums.degreeinfo.com/off-topic-discussions/21052-katrina-wind-allah-sent-torment-infidel.html

Senators subpoena Obama administration, say it is not cooperating with Fort Hood probe...

"It is impossible for us to avoid reaching the conclusion that the departments simply do not want to cooperate with our investigation."
..................

Good God. This is the *Commander in Chief* who will not cooperate in the investigation of the Jihad murder of thirteen American service people.

Which side *is* he on?

Sorta reminds you of the Europe's response to Nazi Germany, don't it?

Why don't the senators conduct their own independent investigation, post the names of each person/department that attempted to impede or stop their investigation outright, and let all of us experience transparency in action?

Sorry - but 11/5 is just coincidence.

Has nothing to do with Vivien Leigh's birthday, or Guy Fawkes Day.

September 11, 1683/2001 - Definitely.

Any further investigation will undoubtedly lead to a place which Chairman Obama and his accomplice Holder, the pro bono terrorist defender, do not want traveled.

All here who educates themselves on these matters has seen enough to connect may dots:

Hassan's Walter Reed slide show
Hassan's "U.S. Govt." business card
Hassan's contacts abroad and wire transfers
Hassan's use of a neighbor's computer
Hassan's pre-martydom behavior

A subpoena process will keep this topic alive, for now. But this administration is adept at dispensing with legalities of a higher urgency and no doubt they'll do the same here.

Sorry Jane, but I think you have acquired the disease of our "government" and wish merely to obfuscate the dots.

Think like a lunatic, Jane. Try again.

You're the lunatic, Heidi. Good Riddance to you and your disease of Stupidity.

I would appreciate not hearing from your Stupidity again. Thank You!

Sorry - but 11/5 is just coincidence.

Has nothing to do with Vivien Leigh's birthday, or Guy Fawkes Day.

September 11, 1683/2001 - Definitely.

Yep to both.

Sweet Jane -- I was referring to Hasan, his imam, and his god Allah as the respective lunatics. You have overreacted and need to check yourself. "Thank you."

My guess is you are about as American as as a burka barbie.

revise @ [as as]

...as American as a burka barbie.

BTW -- are you the new Darcy, Jane?

We can "co-exist."

Without doubt OBL deliberately chose September 11 due to the Battle of Vienna on September 11, 1683 - when the Mohammedans were defeated by the Polish King Jan Sobieski and his army.

Well, actually the Battle took place on September 12, not September 11

And then there is the glaringly obvious:

9/11/1 as in Sura 9:111

“… on the path of Allah shall they fight, and slay, and be slain…”

"My guess is you are about as American as as a burka barbie."

You are such an idiot I can't believe. Leave me alone, b -.

"BTW -- are you the new Darcy, Jane?"

BTW -- are you the new Abdullah Mik, Heidi?

You're very sick. Leave me alone - go pester someone else with your idiocy. If you're unable to leave me alone, then you're sicker than I thought.

Good Day.

"The Battle of Vienna took place on the 11 and 12 of September 1683."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna

Of course, the official line, in both media and government, about Major Hassan is that he acted as a "lone wolf" who suffered PMS; no, no, I meant pre-traumatic stress syndrome. According to them, if his crimes had any connection to The Religion of Peace, it was just the major's tragic and idiosyncratic misunderstanding of same. I think the powers that be will go to extraordinary lengths to prevent any committee headed by Senators Lieberman and Collins coming to any other conclusion. I also suspect Department of Justice is most eager to arrange a plea bargain in this matter to prevent its ever going to public trial.

My hope is that Hassan himself will, egotistically, refuse to go along with the government's plans and will stand, er well, sit proudly before the judge and spill the beans about jihad. At that point, the prosecution will have either to accept his "confession" and make the most of it or, for all intents and purposes, work for his defense. I'm not sure which I want more: his conviction or the dhimmi government's acute embarassment.

Vivian Leigh's birthday? That is the best joke I've heard in awhile. Surely you jest?

"The tin foil hat can significantly reduce the intensity of incident radio frequency radiation on the wearer's brain. A well-constructed foil enclosure provides a protective measure against the effects of electomagnetic radiation. Also a patch of wire mesh(not foil) can be placed above the temporal lobe."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ManWearingTinFoilHat.jpg

Jane, Heidi...
We have enemies. Some post. Some lurk and report.
I doan think either of you are among them.
Pretty damned sure.

Then enemy is islam.

Yes?...


On 11 Sept., Sobieski's army reached the heights of Kahlenberg, near the city. The Turks were not engaged and neither did they engage.

The battle started the next day, Sep 12, when at about 4 in the morning the Polish king gave the order to attack on the plain below.

That's what is maintained by Britannica and Catholic Encyclopaedia, and (some Wikipedia entries).

I think you would agree that whenever there is a discrepancy between Wikipedia and a "real" encyclopaedia it is the latter that should settle the matters.

And, please, Jane and Heidi, remember who is your enemy. Don't waste your time and energy fighting betwen you when you can continue contributing such good comments you have been doing until now.
Please, ladies...would you stop that quarrel? Please...?
Regards to both of you.

From the "Gates of Vienna" website, since you thumb your nose at Wiki:

"Monday, September 11, 2006
The Other September 11th

I refer, of course, to the other 9-11: September 11th, 1683, the day when an alliance of Christian armies led by Jan III Sobieski, the King of Poland, arrived at the Gates of Vienna." Read it all.

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/09/other-september-11th.html

It's September 11. What's why OBL attacked us on September 11.

Good Morning, Jane.

We have received some excellent advice from these fine folks. Let us keep it civil, shall we?

OK -- so the Scarlett O'Hara theory is out; please let me know when someone comes up with a better one.

Don't assume your "government" is sitting around doing this thinking for you!

Hi Thomas,

She started it. I replied to her musing as to whether the Ft. Hood Jihadist deliberately chose 11/5 due to Vivien Leigh's birthday and/or Guy Fawkes day (both ridiculous, of course), in an unremarkable way - and I got this in return:

"Sorry Jane, but I think you have acquired the disease of our "government" and wish merely to obfuscate the dots."

Yeah, right. Sorry, but them's fightin' words, linking me to Hussein, whom I despise for the Muslim and Islamophile that he is. Then, she says,

"My guess is you are about as American as a burka barbie."

Un-effing-believable. What an imbecile. Those - also fightin' words. You get called a Muslim and see how you feel. To me that is an insult of the highest degree. I would choose Scientology over being a moon-god-worshipper and a believer in that rotten evil ideology Islam, a plague on the world for 1400 years.

That said, she hasn't returned and I'm glad of it. I hope we can just steer clear of each other and problem solved. Thanks for both your and AlaskanInfidel's concern and yes of course the enemy? - Islam.

Regards to you both. Hope you have a wonderful day!

Oh Good Grief... I spoke too soon.

"Don't assume your "government" is sitting around doing this thinking for you!"

PLEASE! Go lecture somebody else! I'm so far ahead of you it's not funny.

When they finally do get the documents they'll probably find that most of the paragraphs have been blacked out.

Jane, I agree and love reading all your posts. Fantastic stuff. Not sure about Heidi though, she seems a bit muddled. Could she be an Obambi adviser in disguise I wonder. Her name backward is Id eih, perhaps that means something in the despicable language? Perhaps she'll enlighten us? I will probably find myself at the end of her acidic tongue now, but I am a big girl and can take it.

Back to our friend Nidal - boy to what extent will Obambi go to hide, muddle, justify such appaling acts? Impeach him now I say!

Blessed be the LORD my Rock, who traineth my hands for war,
and my fingers for battle...

~Psalm 144:1

Thank You, Buddica. I know that I've read your comments too with admiration.

"I will probably find myself at the end of her acidic tongue now, but I am a big girl and can take it." - lol! Thanks for the chuckle.


Proverbs 23:9 -

"Do not speak to a fool, for he will scorn the wisdom of your words."

Case in point, here.

God bless you.

"Back to our friend Nidal - boy to what extent will Obambi go to hide, muddle, justify such appalling acts? Impeach him now I say!"

To this extent: Though 11/5 is obviously an Islamic Jihad, complete with an "allahu-akbar"-shouting Mohammedan, Hussein will say, "Don't jump to conclusions." Remember that BS? And never mention Islam as the source of the Muslim's Jihad. Which it is.

Hussein is a Muslim and loves Islam. He's always praising Islam - never a word about Christianity, though he's supposed to be a Christian.

Now, officially, our government cannot even used the phrase "Islamic Jihad," or the word "Jihad." Instead, the Orwellian euphemism "Man-made disasters" is substituted for the truth.

To me, Hussein is a Muslim/Islam sympathizer just as people were Nazi sympathizers in the 1930's. 13 American soldiers were massacred in an Islamic Jihad and all our president can muster up is "Don't jump to conclusions." Hussein is a traitor - that's how I feel and that's how MANY Americans feel. Yes, I wish he would be impeached, for the good of our Judeo-Christian country. No, Hussein - the USA is NOT a "Muslim country," as you have asserted. STOP DEFENDING MASS-MURDERING ISLAM!

No, I don't "thumb my nose" at Wikipedia, or The Gates of Vienna. They are good source of information, to a point. And when the point is historical accuracy I will, with all respect for the two, rely on Britannica. After all,this is the place Wikipedia and Gates of Vienna look, or should look, for information, but not the other way round.

Anyway, it is not very important and I will not be offended at all if you should dismiss the authority of Britannica and Catholic Encyclopaedia (and some Wikipedia entries) in favour of other sources. No problem at all.

What is important is that you have made peace with Heidi. I am sure I am not the only one who is happy about that newest development in your relation.
Cheers,

This is what I said:

From the "Gates of Vienna" website, since you thumb your nose at Wiki:

I knew you would NOT "thumb your nose" at "Gates of Vienna" website.

Anyway, you say September 12, I say September 11. So, we'll leave it at that.

No, Heidi made peace with me. She started the skirmish. I agreed to her last post and wished her the same. Now, the skirmish is over! Yay.

And cheers to you, too.

Thanks Jane, we all need a chuckle in these desperate times. I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments about the great deceiver Hussein O. He hates Christianity and all these new terminologies he is forcing on us are absurd. Still, let's be patient, our time will come.....

So glad you and Heidi have called a truce.

Best

"the great deceiver Hussein O."

Uh Huh. Just following in the footsteps of his Warlord "War is deception" false prophet Mo.

And thank you! You're the best, Buddica. Have a great day!

Jesting, sort of. Despite Jane's assurance that 5 November was a random day to commit treason and mass murder, I remain unconvinced and have not yet ruled out Guy Fawks.

Shalom!

"Despite Jane's assurance that 5 November was a random day to commit treason and mass murder (sic), I remain unconvinced and have not yet ruled out Guy Fawks (sic)."

lol

"The 2008 Mumbai attacks were more than ten coordinated shooting and bombing attacks across Mumbai, India's largest city, by Muslim Terrorists from Pakistan. The attacks, which drew widespread condemnation across the world, began on 26 November 2008 and lasted until 29 November, killing at least 173 people and wounding at least 308."

Hey Heidi - So, what's your "special day" on which the Mumbai Massacre occurred in November 2008? There must be one, right?! C'mon - tell us what it is!

lol

Fawkes!

"...in late 1775, Washington banned the Protestant celebration of the Pope's Day (a traditional mocking of the Catholic leader) by the Continental Army. He deplored the sectarian strife in Ireland, and wished the debate over Patrick Henry's General Assessment bill would 'die an easy death.'"

http://www.virginiaplaces.org/religion/religiongw.html

Pope's Day = Guy Fawkes Day


I think Mosab Hassan Yousef discusses the specific reasons for the 2008 Mumbai attacks in his book, "Son of Hamas." Would you like me to go back and check for you?

Give it a rest, H.

Oh, what about the recent Moscow Islamic Jihads?

What's your "special day" for those? Give it a rest!

So, why November 2008 for the Mumbai Massacre? Why specifically November 26-29? Well??

You're a Mohammedan, aren't you? Anyone who has actually read "Son of Hamas" must be a Mohammedan. And, you're stupid. So, you must be a Mohammedan.

"I think Mosab Hassan Yousef discusses the specific reasons for the 2008 Mumbai attacks in his book, "Son of Hamas." Would you like me to go back and check for you?"

You're a Muslim.

How's your non-existent moon god doing, "Heidi Mohammedan"?

God bless you.

Oh, you mean "allah?" lol! No thanks!

We've got your Mohammedan number - give up!

Oh, what about the recent Moscow Islamic Jihads?

What's your "special day" for those? Give it a rest!

So, why November 2008 for the Mumbai Massacre? Why specifically November 26-29? Well??

You haven't answered those questions, Mohammedan!

Islamists aren't at all fond the book "Son of Hamas" nor do they even believe Mosab has has converted to Christianity. What is the basis of their disbelief do you think?

Sigh.....
Heavy sigh.....
Crap even....

From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

AlaskanInfidel --

You have been posting here for quite some time; I am with you and am not a Muslim. In fact, I am quite fond of the fact that I have been banned from numerous web sites due to my jihad against Islam.

Where Jane gets these ideas is beyond me.

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