Somali music ban comes into effect today -- or else

Giving a whole new meaning to "Don't touch that dial."

There Is No Fun In Islam* Alert: An update on this story. "The day the music died: Somali Islamists ban songs," from AP, April 13 (thanks to Michael):

MOGADISHU, Somalia - Somali radio stations have stopped broadcasting music following an order from Islamist insurgents who say songs are un-Islamic.

Somalia has a tradition of music and most residents greeted the ban with dismay. The edict is the latest unpopular order from Islamists, who have also banned bras, musical ringtones and movies.

So will they rise up and throw the bums out? They did it once before, of course. But like all Islamic supremacists, the anti-music forces here resort to a tried-and-true tactic to make that an unappealing option:

Abdulahi Yasin Jama at Tusmo broadcasting says stations had no choice but to comply with the order, which came into force Tuesday. Only one government-controlled station is defying the ban.

The Islamists frequently assassinate those who defy them or carry out Shariah-based punishments like amputating limbs.

The ban on music echoes rules enforced by Afghanistan's hardline Taliban regime in the late 1990s.

Yeah, isn't that funny how both the Somalis and the Afghans misunderstand Islam in exactly the same way?

* The Ayatollah Khomeini said that.

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have also banned bras, musical ringtones and movies.

But I like all of these. Well, cancel the vacation in Mogadishu...

the truth of that music is not the devil's manipulation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwJNuY3i6uQ

And to think, burning bras was once a symbolic act celebrating the liberation of women.

So, wearing bras "violates Islam because they are 'deceptive'".

BUT, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 269; Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "War is deceit."

So, presumably, wearing a bra for jihad is 'de rigeur'?

After all, the Prophet must be correct in all things and to criticise the Prophet is apostasy. Is this compatible with the Quranic obligation to 'not display adornments'?

Perhaps an 'estemed Islamic scholar' could advise?

Did Aisha wear a 7th century equivalent of a bra under her burqa?

Why is no one talking about the dirty bomb (nuclear) attack in India?

This should be front page news in every paper/cable network, all over the world, but I have only found one story about it in DEBKA news. This happened two days ago.

Why the silence!?!

http://www.debka.com/article/8711/

"Pakistani officials said later that Gillani assured the US president that Pakistani takes nuclear security seriously and appropriate safeguards are in place. They reported that the US president said he was satisfied with those measures."

They are saying this AFTER the attack!!!

Can you f%#king believe this s#@t!?!

The same thing is going around in the Maldives where Akon supposed to perform soon. The ministry of Islamic Affairs controlled by a Jihadist party called Adhaalath is opposing it and asking the government to stop this as it is un-islamic. This Adhaalath had already threatened the government in different ways. They hate Europe, USA, Australia and they are trying to stop tourism in the Maldives. A guy called Shaheem from the same party dressed in moderate dress is alreay a spy financed by Saudis and Somali pirates, is trying to make Maldives as a hub for Somali pirates.

http://minivannews.com/society/2010/04/12/islamic-ministry-expresses-concern-over-akons-superfest/

The history of the bra is an uplifting story. The facts are backed with lots of support and will keep you abreast of of the facts that there was nothing to hide.

Around 2500 B.C., breasts were being admired. And that’s no surprise when you look at the men’s view of the women of those days. They adored them, the women, in tribute to all this attention, wore bras that lifted their breasts so much that they exposed them further.

This led to corruption, orgies and rapes upto the point where Islam came on to the scene to rescue womanhood.

Overnight the corruption to women and the rapes stopped as Islamic rules brought this type of corruption to a halt.

Grateful women in their thousands ran to join and become muslimas to escape the ogling and the disgust vented by the men.

Like a locust storm, muslim men all of a sudden had so many women to choose from that their prophet made a further rule to share the women equally - 4 to each man as a maximum.

Never in the history of mankind was such kindness, equality and respect shown to women so they accepted this easily. Women after all are such adaptable creatures.

Wearing a bra under a burka can still show off the women and have men after them to their disadvantage, so off they come.

Women can wear them in the home for her husband - and I guess that's fair. Liberated Western women never wear bras anyway or want to live in nudist colonies, so there should be little in the way of protests there.

Does the ban on bras include exploding bras too???

I can see where music is un-Isamic...Music distracts from Allah...It causes people to drum their fingers and tap their foot, usually the right one. Often music causes people to jump around contorting their bodies into all kinds of strange and perverted positions, jerking first this way and then that way...Some music even encourages women and men to have body contact...Slow dancing is so haram as to be unspeakable.
When was the last time anyone saw any Mahoundian's slow dancing?(I mean with a woman)...I wonder if they consider adhan (call to prayer) music? It also has a profound effect...It causes people to congregate in one place, kneel down and bang their foreheads on the ground...Some of them get scarred for life...You can see these scars on the foreheads, it is called zebiba...Adhan is dangerous ...
Over time it produces permanent, irreversible brain damage...You can only bang your head on the floor so many times before the eggs get scrambled.
Adhan is more dangerous music than ragtime...no one ever got a zebiba by dancing the boogie woogie...

Why doesn't Yusuf Islam, ne Stephen Georgiou and once upon a time in arte Cat Stevens, in an act of brave death-defiance, fly on down not to Rio but to Mogadishu, and once there, give a free concert, showing those locals, those "violent extremists" who have hijacked or kidnapped (choose one, or if you prefer, as so many do, use both) a "great religion" a thing or two.

And while he's at it, and other "moderate Muslims" are at it, why don't they simply quote chapter and verse, sura and ayat, from the Qur'an, to show that music is just fine, that Muhammad loved a good tune as much as the next man, and prove wrong those islamophobes who claim, for some reason, that there is considerable textual support for a ban, in Islam, on music.

Why not say that Islam is ugliness, and get it overwith?

From above..."Around 2500 B.C., breasts were being admired".

"This led to corruption, orgies and rapes upto the point where Islam came on to the scene to rescue womanhood".

That whole post was great...I always knew that men can't take the sight of a naked breast without going berserk...I know that's what happens to me....I don't rape but I do launch into corruption...so far no one has invited me to an orgie...I have to stay away from breasts, especially naked ones, for my own and the public's safety...I saw Venus De Milo once and they had to call an Ayatollah to calm the situation.

A ban on music is a mistake. Instead, Muslim recruiters should take advantage of the natural high of music, and allow only religious songs.

I can't speak for the effect this would have on Westerners (anything in Arabic is an affront to the Western ear), but contemporary Christians have done this successfully. But, I suppose such a notion would be forbidden as innovation.

According to Maxine (of greeting card fame), "The best bra is a sweatshirt."

Bras are banned, but why hasn't anyone asked why these bozo's were looking at women's tits, in the first place? Is not the Islamic dress code supposed to prevent that very thing? Sharia--much good it does anyone.

In campaigns of counter-Dawa, the Muslim ban on music should be brought to the attention of the black prisoners who are being targetted by Muslim missionaries, and the example here of Somalia, and in Afghanistan of the killing of wedding-singers by the Taliban, and in Algeria of the singers (often Berbers) of Rai. And the textual authority in the Hadith for such a ban should also be adduced. Make sure this kind of infomration is widely disseminated. It can do far more to strengthen the immune systems of those being targetted than can other appeals based on more theoretical considerations.

@Mobamad,

I read the article. Those guys are dead men, thoroughly "cooked" by the radiation, from the sound of it. You just can't have immediate severe reactions, like the ones they had, without being a goner.

Kuffar England wrote:

So, wearing bras "violates Islam because they are 'deceptive'".

BUT, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 269; Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "War is deceit."

So, presumably, wearing a bra for jihad is 'de rigeur'?
............................

Well, yes—and not only bras, but breast implants as well:

"Islamic Terrorists Stack D-Cup Bras with Bombs!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVLcN0CEE8s

Simply wearing a bra for comfort or attractiveness is strictly Haram. If you're using it to deceive and murder Kuffars, though, its completely Halal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKHsSG2Ra0c

Perhaps the islamists won't mind if this one is played.

Aisha was married many years before she would have even needed one.

One other weirdness. Assuming these Somali Muslim women are breeding at the rate of at least one kid a year, maybe half of whom surviving (big if) to age five, don't they leak if they don't have a bra and they're nursing?

Now, UNICEF estimates that only 9% of Somali babies are breastfed. Nestle gives away lots and lots of free formula at African hospitals so they can get all that lovely international aid that the U.S. and others throw at Africans out of pity, even though it does no good.

I've often thought that a better use of aid dollars, for both U.S. and international charitable efforts, is to give away nursing pads to the poor, rather than formula.

I'll bet its driven by the need to remain covered, thereby making it nearly impossible to bring a baby out in public. Then the other side would say, well, many can't leave their homes, so they could nurse there...

I don't know where I'm going with this, but the personal intrusion and legalism and totalitarian behavior of this cult is exhausting.

Ban on music is a good thing. It spreads the message of who's in charge.
This religion seems to count so much on part of the population terrorizing the other.
So let there be the deafening silence of fear.
All the time.
It appears the only pleasures intentionally left to believers, are killing and inseminating women in the name of Allah.
While eliminating bras is a much needed measure, since in Islam they probably do not have any idea about what they're buying when they marry. So at least now they can have an idea.
And, one more little thing: it's not that women want to "deceit" men. Women do not have the right to want anything. It must be the bride's father who wants to make a better deal cheating on the groom. That makes it a matter of deceit between Muslim men, which should not happen, so the ruling is as serious and legitimate as can be.

It appears it was more like an accident. However it is still very worrying to find out such extremely dangerous and concentrated substances can be found as scrap metal
It may be that terrorists can easily get some serious s**t like that.
We may end up buying radiation meters and wearing them by the neck..

MOGADISHU, Somalia - Somali radio stations have recommenced the broadcasting of certain music following the disclosure that infidel radio stations, being avidly listened to by Muslims in secret, have been infusing their Afro-Samba percussion grooves with Pro-Christian chants.

Muhammad Mohamet Machmoud Jama at AQSA broadcasting says the brothers had no choice but to change the Fatwa, since men and women could be seen dancing together and singing love songs to Jesus.

"We can funk out," said Machmoud, "just as good as the infidel. Even better, Allah willing. But instead of the garbage about love and Jesus, we will enforce the glory of Islam through music."

When asked if the new program had taken effect, he flipped the switch to an old wooden dial radio and music began to play: "C'mon People, now, Smile On Your Brother, Everybody Love one another..."

"Goddamnit it, wrong station!"

This helps explain why I'm optimistic long term. Islam is so dumb and so repressive that it'll never take over the world. It slipped under the radar for centuries precisely because it's a stupid religion, with the Muslim world wallowing in its own stultifying societies, and it's only because of modern technology, communications and transportation that it has again come to the attention of the world at large. After several decades of Islam being Islam and Muslims being Muslims the world will finally wake up and realize what a wretched, whining, pathetic, ungracious and just flat out idiotic religion Islam is. Then it's a goner. A lot of people, of course, will needlessly be killed or maimed before this happens, courtesy of Islam, but a hundred years or so from now Islam will be defunct and looked upon as a great error by the human race.

Hello??? Is any one awake here???

Iran to go nuclear. 1 month.

http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=173023

Iranian threat of atomic war with USA...

http://www.debka.com/

The shit is hitting the fan right now!!!

Thanks for the heads up Mobamad, why this Iranian threat of nuclear attacks against the US isn't being blared from every news channel right now defies logic.

Good luck with the watered down sanctions Obama, they might have an effect 3 months after American cities become nuclear moon-craters. Sarcasm aside, the window for sanctions has long been closed-the only option left is military force, our survival is on the line and we have a feckless muslim sympathizer as our president.

Frankly if Obama does nothing soon, he should be impeached, he's endangering all our lives and the country by not immediately acting to stop a real and credible threat. The time for foot-dragging has come to an end, something must be done soon-hopefully Israel takes charge if Ogabe can't extract his foot from his mouth and give Iran an ultimatum.

Great post, duh_swami!

I wonder if the Islamic Religious Police or the Ministers of Virtue and Vice are conducting burkah screenings to determine just who is or is not wearing a bra?....

After all, bras are Un-Islamic...

Did everyone click on the link and read the whole article?

Here's what it says toward the end:

"The ban on music means that even talk-radio stations will have to make changes. Jama, from the independent broadcaster, said his station would have to stop using music as a bridge between programs.

"We are using other sounds, such as gunfire, the noise of vehicles and birds to link up our programs and news," he said'. END QUOTE.

Got that, everyone?

'Gunfire, the noise of vehicles, *and birds* {hmmm, sneeaky - dda} to link up our programs and news'.

Birds. Nice way to get around the ban on music...Is *birdsong* haraam, too, in the minds of the sharia-pushers? Or is it only *human* songstresses who are verboten? I guess these radio presenters will find out pretty soon.

Lots of possibilities. Lyrebirds?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XiQDgNUEMw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSB71jNq-yQ&feature=related

(Just as well there are no lyrebirds in Somalia or the poor creatures would be trying to imitate gunfire, screams and explosions...).

Australian magpies? (I am hearing magpies warbling outside my window, right now). Bellbirds?


Now, by way of an Expecto Patronum to drive away the Dementors: some music by non-Muslims, music both inspired by and including the songs of the other creatures with which we share this planet.

The song of the nightingale (As incorporated in 'Pines of Rome').

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auEtD-iXWgc&feature=related

Or in Ketelbey's In a Monastery Garden (BBC Proms recording: despite the irritating presenter, the actual performance is lovely, with flutes - haraam! haraam! - and nightingale song)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn4VWefRVnw&feature=related

Stop the Islamification of England!...or we can kiss goodbye to Last Night of the Proms, for the maddest and most 'devout' of the Sharia-Enforcers surely intend to do in Britain, sooner or later, exactly as they have done and are doing in Somalia and Afghanistan.

Now some music for whale song and orchestra - Armenian composer Hovhaness' "And God Created Great Whales"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzSWGPmjwjA

And, finally, let Brother Wolf, ancestor of dogs - of the dogs that Muslims hate, despise, torment and kill - lead us all in prayer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDOe52U-oXY

Kyrie Eleison, from the Missa Gaia.

Think of it, in light of that horrible story from Somalia, as the whole of creation and all of non-Muslim humanity crying out to the real God for deliverance from the sharia-maddened 'sons of allah' whose ambition is to silence all music forever.

Further thought.

Hugh, above, observed that one way of increasing resistance to Islam in, for example, the prison population, is to spread awareness of the sharia ban on music.

In one high security prison in Britain, the Muslim prisoners were *attacking and harassing* the non-Muslim prisoners...*to stop them from listening to music*.

From this article:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/uk-muslim-prisoners-intimidating-non-muslim-prisoners-getting-preferential-treatment.html

http://www.sundaymercury.net/news/midlands-news/2010/04/11/islamic-inmates-hand-back-tvs-to-escape-x-factor-66331-26215888/

"a former Long Lartin prison officer has also claimed non-Muslim prisoners are being intimidated for refusing to abide by unofficial rules imposed by Islamic gangs, about eating pork *and listening to Western music*".

Non-Muslim prisoners who are discovered to have been suffering such horrible Muslim bullying should be defended and protected, and encouraged to eat pork and listen to music to their heart's content.

If Muslims in any jail in the non-Muslim world are caught attempting to impose the fiendish sharia ban on music, *or any other aspect of sharia*, upon their non-Muslim fellow-prisoners, the prison authorities should come down on said Muslims like a ton of bricks. Removal of all privileges for a significant period of time, no access to Quran, no prayer room, no halal food, and stick them in solitary with every imaginable form of Infidel music piped into the cells at a moderate volume for at least four hours of every day, just to make the point that they are *not* in dar al Islam and *they do not rule the roost*.

Further thought. The sharia-pushers have stopped the broadcasting of music from stations *inside* Somalia.

But the airwaves do not respect boundaries. Nothing to stop Christian-run stations from inside neighbouring non-Muslim countries - or further afield - from continuing to pour nto Somalia, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, a flood of music of all descriptions, *including Christian religious songs performed in traditional African styles*, interspersed liberally with the testimonies of Somali apostates, and lively recitations of the Bible, especially the New Testament, in Somali language (good translations do, by now, exist). Then those who grow bored with Quranic rantings, vehicle noises, and gunfire coming out of their radios, will just have to twiddle the dial to find something much more attractive. Soul food by the bucketful.

The Delhi incident is not a dirty bomb. It is release of radioactive material (Cobalt-60) by scrap metal merchants who got hold of a shielded radioactive source, quite likely discarded by somebody acting with criminal negligence.

It sounds like a carbon copy of the September 13, 1987 incident at Goiania in Brazil. That one killed 4, injured 28, and caused radiation poisoning of more than 200 people. A Caesium-137 source was scavenged from medical equipment used for cancer treatment. This equipment had been left without proper de-commissioning in an abandoned hospital. The scrap merchant who received the source tried breaking it open, to recover the lead shielding and to see what else he could salvage. The radioactive element gave off a blue light light, possibly fluorescence or Čerenkov radiation associated with the absorption of moisture by the source (this is the blue light seen on the radioactive material that drops into Homer Simpson's shirt on the Simpsons title sequence). The scrap merchant thought this interesting and invited friends to view it, some of whom took part of the material home as a curio.

Refer to wikipedia articles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orphan_source

The "ophaned source" page provides information on other incidents.

Major civilian uses of radioactive sources, apart from medical use in radiotherapy for cancers, include radiography for quality control of welds and down hole gamma-gamma logging of deep boreholes, both of these common in the oil industry. Sources are also used for food irradiation to destroy microorganisms or insects, and in situ density testing for control of earthwork compaction for civil engineering construction such as roads and dams. There are many other industrial uses.

As proper disposal is inconvenient and expensive, we should expect that there are and will be many undiscovered cases of careless disposal. In this respect it is no different than dumping of non-radiactive hazardous waste.

From Reuters Africa Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:35am GMT
http://af.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idAFTRE59F1K420091016

The Al-Shabaab gangsters were accosting women passers by whose breasts didn't jiggle, whipping them then getting them to remove the offending garment and shake themselves. In one instance they jailed a woman's male chaperone who objected to their behaviour.

Perhaps they'd run out of barbers to punish and the gang leaders felt they needed a way to keep the boys employed and contented.

Men without beards or with trousers covering their ankles were also being harassed. One person interviewed said
"You just find yourself being whipped by a masked man as soon as leave your house."
I expect someone will now offer package tours for masochists.

Al Shabaab gangsters will really appreciate the recent Japanese invention of the "musical bra".

If this nuke material ended up effectively, in the trash and these guys found it...how tough can it be to steal/buy some? And this is some bad to death stuff. Properly weaponized it could render large areas uninhabitable for...I'll leave that to Eastview. I just know it would be a while and/or large amounts of money to get the area inhabitable again if at all...and it was in the "trash"?

I agree with others here that a straw will come and break the camels back. No movies? No music? The youth of any nation thrive on and thirst for music. There will be trouble. Music is freedom of expression. From the cowboy listening to country music in his jacked up pickup to the low rider enthusiast listening to gangsta rap. Matters not what country you're in. The same thing holds true. you start messin' with a peoples music and you mess with who they are...all of them except for the insane mopeople who want to see the day the music died. No good ole boys drinkin' Whiskey and Rye though...and no singin' for sure.
It is usually the youth of any nation that step in to the line of fire first when tyranny is confronted. Prollem is...they'll just end up with a less insane version of the same cancer...at first. sigh...

islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.

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