A smooth deceiver is caught out. "Foreign mosque money: Arabs to help pay," by Tom Topousis for the New York Post, May 25 (thanks to Twostellas):
The imam behind a proposed mosque and Islamic community center near Ground Zero will turn to Arab and Muslim nations around the world to help finance the estimated $100 million project, he has told a London-based Arabic newspaper.Plans for the project, a proposed 13-story building at 45 Park Place, has generated enormous controversy among some 9/11 families who say it's too close to Ground Zero.
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has insisted the project he's spearheading is meant to build bridges between Muslims and other religions, but so far he has not been able to cite any specific sources of funding.
But in an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, Rauf told the newspaper that funding would come from Muslims in the United States and from overseas.
"Imam Abdul Rauf . . . told Asharq Al-Awsat that the Islamic center will be financed through contributions from Muslims in the US, as well as by donations from Arab and Islamic countries," the newspaper reported.
Rauf did not return a call for comment.
In interviews with US media, Rauf has insisted funds would be raised here.
"We hope to raise it from a combination of gifts from the local Muslim community and perhaps from some combination of bonds or something like that," Rauf told WABC Radio's Aaron Klein last week....
I'm aghast at the lot of you! Trying to forbid Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf from building his little mosque. I would agree not so close to place where his sect killed so many innocent people though. Might I suggest Saudi Arabia or Pakistan? What am I saying? We don't need any more of those hideous things anywhere on earth.
You can never trust these double talking bald faced liars!!! Period!! Never, ever. If we do believe them then we do it at our peril.
Oops! Did my taquiyya slip?
Proof that when a Muslim speaks, independent confirmation of what is said should be ascertained before accepting the Muslim's statement at face value. If this damn mosque does go up as planned, it will be the ugliest building in the world because it will ooze an inner ugliness that no amount of stone, steel, brick and mortar will be able to eclipse. And any non-Muslim who doesn't understand why this mosque should never be built can only be described as a fool. Again we can see that the real problem for America and all the West is not Islam but ignorance of Islam.
Another muslim caught on tape lying -- again?
Ho-hum ...
"Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has insisted the project he's spearheading is meant to build bridges between Muslims and other religions, but so far he has not been able to cite any specific sources of funding."
Your project isn't building bridges, it's burning them with the American people. And it's causing our hearts to burn with anger, too. Hey we don't want your stinkin' mosque anywhere NEAR Ground Zero.
What part of 'NO' don't you understand? ..no means NO!
No mosque(s) near Ground Zero. None. Nada. ZERO!
Hell hath no fury like an American scourned. This cannot happen. This SHOULD not happen.
Building bridges ...what a crock. If that were true, then wouldn't we be seeing some progress in that department? No, this is a slap in the face, so you can't build bridges while lighting fires. Muslims don't want to build bridges, they want to shove sharia down our American throats. Well guess what, we won't let you ...
Be gone islam!
This mosque must be stopped. Blocking or inhibiting the financing will help. But what about enlisting the New York construction unions? Without the cooperation of the construction industry, this monstrosity will never get built. If the unions get on board (the NY firefighters union can help here)the project is dead. Nobody but a muslim will try to cross a construction union picket line and even they are likely to get a taste of Screaming Eagle Jihad. Economic pressure (threats) could keep the construction companies and the material suppliers from bidding on the project. Civil disobedience could paralyze traffic in the area. Tie up a ready mix truck in traffic for 5 hours and it has a real problem. And what about the NY Outfit guys. They're Catholic (not muslim) and historically, tend to be quite patriotic. This is a doable.
"Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has insisted the project he's spearheading is meant to build bridges between Muslims and other religions..."
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Yeah, ramming this mosque down our throats is really going to make us feel all warm and fuzzy about you, kinda like the Healthcare Bill that was rammed down our throats and "Immigration Reform (Amnesty)" that will probably be also. That's why a majority of Americans feel real warm and fuzzy about Rasooool Hussein right now.
"But in an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, Rauf told the newspaper that funding would come from Muslims in the United States and from overseas...In interviews with US media, Rauf has insisted funds would be raised here."
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It's that 7th Century mindset, the musulmen keep forgetting it's 2010 (AD) and that we have electricity and instant communications these days (no thanks to Islam). No longer does it take six months for word of treachery and deceit to travel by camel out of the desert.
Once upon a time, there where 2000 Hindu temples.
Then the Muslims came and destroyed them all.
And built 2000 mosques on their foundations.
This mosque should be viewed in the same light.
jaladhi
I hate to nitpick, but they are for the most part "bushy-faced liars", inasmuch as they are mandated by the Qu'ran to wear beards!
In any case, it is an affront and an insult to the families killed by the jihadists to construct a mosque anywhere near such hallowed ground.
Good one, EuskalHerria!!!
They are "bushy-faced liars. Indeed we don't need any mosque anywhere in non-Muslim land let alone near ground zero. I am just wondering why there is no ground swell of protests throughout USA against this second 9/11. Doesn't anyone care any more???? Why doesn't the MSM and politicians do anything about it? They are even scared to talk about it.
They should talk to the people of Muslim invaded lands, viz., Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists of India who know what Muslims marauders did to their holy places, temples and gurudwaras, thousands of which were razed or converted to mosques. In my earlier post I did write about the same. This is what Muslims did in Europe and in Egypt, Jewish holy land etc. If we do not learn from history, it will repeat itself here also!!!
Jaladhi
The problem is, we seem to have such short attention spans anymore - most folks have no idea that the Muslims are even planning to construct mosques near ground-zero in New York. And for sure the mainstream media is not touching this story; there is entirely too much "political correctness" and the feeling (not derived from education and reason) that only a few "misunderstanders of the Religion of Peace" were responsible for that horrible attack on 9/11/2001.
Thank goodness that Fox News has the guts to have Robert Spencer on Sean Hannity's program. I do have hope - he is "getting it", and Glenn Beck is opening his eyes, also.
I only hope that the voters elect honest and perceptive men and women this November to turn the tide against our headlong rush into dhimmitude! I can't wait until November 2012 to complete the housecleaning!
The history of Islamic subversion of India and the ongoing onslaught of Islam against Europe should awaken the careless and listless in the U.S to the imminent danger of stealth jihad and demographic conquest, but only if the mainstream media cease to be lapdogs of the Left.
Good on the New YorkPost for publishing that info. Time to send them a copy of Rauf's apologetics for jihadist mass murder on the September 30, 2001 episode of CBS' "60 Minutes":
Ed Bradley: Are you in any way suggesting that we in the United States deserved what happened?
Faisal Abdul Rauf: I wouldn't say that the United States deserved what happened, but united states policies were an accessory to the crime that happened.
Bradley: You say that we're an accessory? How?
Faisal: Because we have been accessory to a lot of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA.
http://www.islamfortoday.com/60minutes.htm
Funny - I thought bin Laden was made in the Middle East where Feisal Abdul Rauf came from. Typical Islamist taqiyya - blame the victim, not the jihadist perp.
I am very upset that the planning of this "complex" was even allowed to be considered in the first place AT this sacred "American" location..
How could the City's authorities NOT have been able to understand the feelings of outrage of Americans in general before issuing the permit to build??
{I am assuming that all the authorities involved have NICE Sharia bank accounts somewhere}
I hope all New Yorkers' WILL remember to discard their remaining pork sausage; left over pork roast; chops; whatever at the site as they pass by each day after lunch. Mo-dogs might like the bones - I know they did the American bones remaining on site.
WILL A MAJOR RESTUARANT CHAIN BE ABLE TO GET A PERMIT TO BUILD A NICE, ELEGANT BAR-BQ PORK DINER NEXT TO THE MOSQUE?
WHAT ABOUT A TOP-OF-THE-LINE PLAYBOY CLUB NEXT DOOR? HIGH-DOLLAR STRIP JOINT?? TO KEEP THE IMAMS HAPPY - A HOME FOR UNDER AGE GIRLS AND BOYS (AT LEAST 6 YRS - NOT OVER 14)???
"WILL A MAJOR RESTUARANT CHAIN BE ABLE TO GET A PERMIT TO BUILD A NICE, ELEGANT BAR-BQ PORK DINER NEXT TO THE MOSQUE?
WHAT ABOUT A TOP-OF-THE-LINE PLAYBOY CLUB NEXT DOOR? HIGH-DOLLAR STRIP JOINT?? TO KEEP THE IMAMS HAPPY - A HOME FOR UNDER AGE GIRLS AND BOYS (AT LEAST 6 YRS - NOT OVER 14)???"
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They could kill two birds with one stone: Open a Chucky Cheese and then the Imams can have, like Mason Reese used to say in the 70's, a "Borgaschmord."
What a sick "religion."
We need to remember with whom and what we're dealing here. This creep "Slick" Rauf is a first-class con-artist or he wouldn't have gotten this far with a concept so insultingly debasing. It's clear that he has his ego planted deeply in this--he wants to be "muslim-of-the-Year," and proud "bishop" of the "Mosque of the American Humiliation."
Notice how he picks his spots; he wouldn't show for a discussion with Ms. Geller and wouldn't comment on this story. He'll show where he can lie unopposed in real-time and count on the bad stuff to fade away unnoticed.
He's predicating his whole con on the lie that this is about "building bridges," and for the "whole community." Any lie that follows is small-change for him. There are many ways that muslims could show contrition for their crime, and/or honor for their innocent victims. Building a monument for THEMSELVES on the very dust of those victims--on the site of a building THEY destroyed--should be too shameful for words. But, under that Armani suit, Rauf is a muslim, & hence he has no concept of shame--or honor.
As a contrast, here's a link to the Russian 9/11 Memorial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amt_2XIIxis
That our former Cold-War adversaries could express their feelings in this sincere and moving way serves as a counterpoint to the devious, supremacist, shameless agenda of "Slick" Rauf and his transparently insulting "Cordoba House..."
I wholly agree, George ..."Slick RAWLF" IS a creep, and he can take his supposed bridge-building-project back to the ME where it will be appreciated -- or he can take his mosque and shove it, the choice is his.
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take it bak or Ulluh will smete yuo with thanArbic hand!!
In than words of are grate propet Muhamhanded (K-3rd);
“Lo! Ulluh and His angles pray thanpiece to Profet Muhamsteakhanded (HTML). O! Aisha be 9 and hot! Than messinger of Ulluh saw here on than swing with doll and had than standing orvetion becuase! Aisa screemed and cryd in Arbic for here innuhsince but are Profet Muhamheaded (NAFTA) laffed and had his way, than. Ullah shoowred praze on him and thansalutted him with salivations lyke were on Aissa, to" (Q: 333.3.56:)
I hope sum day, groeGe hater, yuo will sea light and come too Ulluh and than Proift Muhandhammingitup (SETI) so we will not have too smote yuo, gregOe hater.
I keel yuo!
Luv andthan AK47 bullits to,
DOI
I'd rather be a hammer than a nail,
DefenderOfIslam would just rather wag his stupid tail.
LMAO!!! ...you make a better DOI than DOI does, hahaha :-D
Hi Champ! Can you believe Eleanor? She than betr DOI than DUI hmslef! I just want to remind her here that he said, 'O' and 'O' agin
and thrid tim 'O,' than he rolld over and sleeped!
And with apologies to my friends in Minnesota:
There was an imam called Rauf
Who claimed to be spreading the truth
But he was a liar
A muslim for hire
Now he's building his mosque in Duluth!
Hope you are well, Ms Champ. Eleanor, you're killing me here!
chomp hater. thank yuo forthan comliment! as a musulmen from Yousebeckeestan, I need ale than cumplemints I can get. Yuo sea, I havethan 0.4 wifes who beet me all day longg. My imums and moolahs yelld at me for becusae I am week and powerles before them, than. I telled them it suposed to bee than other way aroun, I shuld beet them, and fore say that than, I get beet. I be so sadd al than time. Also, I am imminent. I relly hate too have too ahmit than, but I am and so than I canot due my duty. Aaliyah, Maysan, Zaytoonah and Jane, my wiafs, are crool too me and laff at me with no murcy.
O! I must go noww than, hear comes Maysan and Jane an they havethan wheep, O!
Ow!
Luv and than welts, to
DOI
:D
Been looking for you greoge hater, but I keep missing ya! Saw you on and just had to go all DOI on you!
I hope all is well with you, things are good in Eleanor world!
See ya around here on thanArbic land!
O!
~E
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has insisted the project he's spearheading is meant to build bridges between Muslims and other religions...
He says "building bridges" in English, but he hisses "digging tunnels" in Arabic.
Elunr,
Yuo are the wurst hatr on site! Than imminent thng was than secret! You have betarred me! Now I than eveen bugger touble. I run out of than Niagra! So I take than Propissia and cuogh up than ahirball!
Thank you for ensuring that I will fall asleep laughing tonight! (after I say 'O' thurd time!)
They will NEVER WIN as long as we can laugh at them! You are a treasure!
Hatr G
Goodness gracious -- not many men are willing to go public and admit to failing one wife, let alone four. I hardly know what to say, lol ...
Sorry?
...Ahaha!!
"Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has insisted the project he's spearheading is meant to build bridges between Muslims and other religions"
Sounds somewhat familiar...
"CAIR advocates dialogue between faith communities both in America and worldwide."
http://www.cair.com/AboutUs/VisionMissionCorePrinciples.aspx
Thanks George hater! lol
:D
Let's not forget Yasser Arafat. master of doublespeak. He would tell soothing things to the West, and then use the same arguments full of hatred and jihad for Arab Street.
http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=5382
Quote: "Arafat was the Master of Doublespeak. He would deliver one message to the West and an entirely other message to his people and to the Arab world. Arafat was smiles and soft-spoken to the West, he was a fire breathing hell raiser before Arab audiences. In English, Arafat spoke of "the peace of the brave," in Arabic he called for Jihad."
No surprise really. They lie. It's in their 'religion of peace' to lie.
So lets see.....Almost 10 years after 911 and no monument built on the site of the world trade buildings by our government, but in a time span of two years a mega-Mosque will be up and running. We have no one but ourselves to blame for this slap in the face travesty. Someone said it in a previous post...APATHY!!!!
What will it take for Americans to wake up? Will we wake up??
2/09 In a position paper (search Finnish Minister of Defense on mosques in Russia) Finnish Ministry of Defense states:
In 1991 there were approximately 300 mosques in Russia; the present number approaches 8,000, with foreign financing, mainly from Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia.
They're in it to win it.
"And any non-Muslim who doesn't understand why this mosque should never be built can only be described as a fool."
That's not a good way to convince.
The reason to fight it is not because it is just a mosque, but a battlefield shrine. A monument to a battlefield victory of Islam in the Saudi way of viewing things.
All the general religion talk will get you nowhere. You need to argue the narrow truth, it is a monument, a memorial, a sanctification of a great day in Wahhabism. Like branding St. Sophia in Istanbul, but a million more times insulting.
Euska has made the point..."The problem is, we seem to have such short attention spans anymore - "
What country has poured more money into education per person than the US? Yet what population indulges in denial or national - cultural - traditional - masochism than the US?
What is so personally disturbing, and it should be for all of us - Yes! All of us - is that while it was cascading down-hill we were all right here. The Squeakie Fromms of the 60's are the Jihad Janes of today. (They'll only be seeking 'Meaning' for their boring lives.)
Now, don't go getting all wound up. It's only a human error. And, though identifying it doesn't solve such an enormous issue. Identifying it is a big step.
This mosque travesty is, for our enemies, a trophy for winning in 2001, 1993.
Pay attention to even the most parochial or provincial easements in permits, construction and celebrations. They become precedents.
A thought: Pregnancy Principle - setting up large areas for those coming and those to be converted.
The Muslims are planning to invade the US from within. They got approval from the New York City Mayor "Michael Bloomberg" and the official New York community to build a large Islamic complex and Mosque over ground zero. This is to worship Muhamed and to insight hatred of Christians and Jews and to organize mass murder from within the US. Muslims are advancing a bit by bit they start small and spread like locusts. They hit and run. They use mosques in Israel to launch rocket attacks against civilians. They will use the Mosque to show their contempt to the victims of 9-11. Islam Holy Book "The Quran" in the Repentance Surah Verse 29 states: "Fight who do not believe in ALLAH AND HIS PROPHET FROM THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK "CHRISTIANS AND JEWS" UNTIL THEY PAY THE JIZIAH (MONEY TO RANSOM THEMSELVES) WITH WILLING SUBMISSION, AND FEEL THEMSELVES SUBDUED. Muslims are commanded to fight and kill Christians and Jews according to the Quran. so allow them to build the Mosque so that they teach more of them to go ahead and execute mass murder..WAKE UP AMERICANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!