Starving in Gaza
Bravo. Jihad Flotilla Update: "Mideast: Flotilla; Barak, No Humanitarian Crisis In Gaza," from ANSAmed, May 31 (thanks to Insubria):
(ANSAmed) - JERUSALEM, MAY 31 - There was no humanitarian crisis and nobody is dying with hunger in the Gaza Strip, where the real problem is the fact that control of the territory is in the hands of a terrorist organisation (Hamas), said Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak today. He made his remarks in a press conference, hastily organised after the high number of victims that fell when a flotilla of pro-Palestinian activists was boarded by the Israeli navy off the coast of Gaza. The reason for the isolation of Gaza, he continued, is to keep weapons and terrorists from entering this area. Israel, Barak added, is determined to defend its sovereignty. (ANSAmed).
You are such a low life Robert Spencer. Truely are a lowlife. I have seen the situation in Gaza, as have 1000s of others. Every single respected human rights organisation has stated the exact same thing, Gaza is bordering a humanitarian crisis and you sit here and accuse them of making it up. You sit here while Gazan's are starving.
You are the lowest of the low. As if proof was ever needed ofn how much you despise Muslims, and especially Palestinians. This is it.
You've exposed yourself 1 too many times already Rob. You're not fooling anyone. Do the honest thing and come clean about what you really believe. I have far more respect for people like Pamela Geller & Debbie Schlussel, as much as i despise them, at least they are honest about their hatred of Islam, Muslims and Palestinians. Its all smoke and mirrors with you. You hide behind lies like a dirty stinking morally bankrupt coward that you are. If there is a hell, people like you will fill it. I cannot think of anything more despicable than people denigrating & denying the suffering of a people like has been done with the holocaust and now even with this.
Predictably, street protests against the boarding of the Gaza flotilla are occurring all over the place, including here in the UK, so we need to show our support for Israel. Here is the text of an email I sent to my MP this morning:
"Dear Mr.......
After hearing the news this morning I was saddened to hear of the loss of life which occurred when IDF forces boarded and detained the ships of the flotilla intending to deliver various materials to Gaza.
However, I feel it is important to bear in mind that the flotilla was warned in adequate time, by the Israelis, that the ships would be intercepted if they persisted in their provocative action, and that alternative ports such as Ashdod were offered to the flotilla to legally and peacefully unload their cargoes. Despite claims that the flotilla ships were crewed by 'human rights activists' these are people who are singularly silent on the human rights of Israeli citizens to live in peace without a constant barrage of rockets and mortar fire from the Gaza strip. These 'humantarians' are little more than apologists for, and therefore supporters of, terrorist organisations such as Hamas, whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel - even though Israel is an internationally recognised legitimate democratic state, a staunch ally and a constant friend and supporter of this country, with every right to protect itself, its borders and civilian population.
While any loss of life and injury is regrettable, the Israeli Defence Force was doing no more than its duty in preventing such a deliberately provocative action which, if allowed to succeed, would have surely led to flood of copycat actions, any number of which could all too easily be used as a cover for arms smuggling.
May I therefore urge you to be mindful of the opinions of many British people and those of us in your constituency who support the Israeli people's right to live in peace, and to encourage our government to actively and openly support the Israeli government and the IDF who safeguard the security of Israel.
Thank you for your attention."
Everyone should write to their representatives as soon as possible. Let our voices be heard. Don't let the supporters of jihad dominate this issue.
These concentration camps don't look like those one in the the old time.
Oh cut the victim bullshit.
No Human rights organistion has denied Israel's right to defend itself or its right to exist, and they have always condemned rocket attacks agaisnt Israel.
ISRAEL attacked the ship. Israel attacked the ship at Night in INTERNATIONAL waters. Any loss of life is ENTIRELY THEIR FAULT. This was nothing more than act of Piracy and shows Israel's blatant disregard for human rights.
Please spare us the crocodile tears. You are not bothered by any loss of life. As far as you lot are concerned, they are terrorist supporters therefore they got what was coming.
What a sorry propaganda attempt if i ever saw one. The world isn't buying Israel's lies and propaganda anymore. No amount of cries of Anti semetism is going to silence the people of this world who have a conscience.
20 people have died, and only thing people like you care about is justifying Isarel's thuggish behavior.
"Remember Khybar!"
I believe that was a slaughter of the Jews, wasn't it?
NOT ONE ISRAELI
prevents supplies going into Gaza from EGYPT
If you are concerned about the situation in Gaza
BLAME EGYPT
I'd gladly live along side them any day of the week.
How about we remember us some of the genocides in the Old Testament, by God's chosen people?? Yeah, works both ways pal.
Yes. That is true. The Egyptian government is no better. Run by that criminal bastard Hosni Mubarak. He is infact even worse than Israel. Israel, at least has some justificatio for a seige and denying stuff into there, Egypt has none at all. Their in-action is absolutely criminal & unforgivable.
Infact, the same can be said of msot the useless Arab regimes that pretend to give a damn about Palestinians.
The people in Gaza have been starving for years...Where are they putting all those dead bodies? There ought to be a huge stack of them by now...
Hmm. Maybe you are unfamiliar with the process of burying bodies 6 feet under, after they cease to be?
The Israelis ARE the victims in the current warfare being waged against them. Here we have a nation the size of Wales with the population of Greater London, surrounded on all sides by hostile Islamic nations containing scores of millions of Muslims almost every last one of whom would love to see Israel destroyed, and these same hostile nations have already tried several times to carry out their evil plans.
The loss of life involved, though regrettable, seems to have occurred because upon boarding the big ship, the IDF were met with extreme violence and reacted to defend themselves in a justifiable manner. The video footage I've seen clearly shows IDF men roping aboard (without any of them firing their weapons) to be met with a barrage of hoodlums waving iron bars trying to stove their skulls in. No such problems seem to have occurred on the other five smaller ships, there was no violence against the IDF, and therefore no-one injured. The activists/blockade runners started the violence and so reaped the unfortunate but inevitable consequences. Carrying out an operation like this at night is nothing more than good military practice - darkness masks your appraoch, your opponents are mostly asleep, you can use night vision, etc etc. These are considerations which not only offer the best chance of success but also the speed of the assault brings the action to a close very quickly which ultimately saves lives. The Israelis were just being professional.
International law clearly states that an act of piracy is defined by individual actors carrying out an individual action, therefore a state cannot carry out an act of piracy. Sorry.
Furthermore, any nation is within its rights to defend itself by establishing a naval blockade of ports which might be used to import armaments that could be used in warfare against it, so there again the Israelis were justified in defending themselves. If people knowingly choose to run such a blockade they should be grown-up enough to realise that they do so at the risk of their lives.
Phoenix, cool your flames -- you're just sounding irrational, and more than a little ridiculous.
No humanitarian organization denies Israel the right to defend itself? Well, I suppose that depends on
(a) Your definition of "humanitarian organization";
(b) THEIR definition of what it means for Israel to "defend itself"
Sending troops to intercept a flotilla of ships whose purpose is clear provocation by violation of a well-known protective corridor by a coalition of organizations with known ties to Hamas and Al Qaeda is a perfectly sensible example of Israel defending itself.
Now look at any list of organizations that condemned the action. There you'll see multiple counterexamples to your claim -- if you count "humanitarian organizations" among such lists (I am inclined to question their bona fides on that very basis).
There are NO credible reports on either side indicating that the IDF attacked violently first -- they merely boarded the vessels in order to prevent their entry into Gaza. The IDF behaved according to standard protocol and responded with lethal means only when it was necessary to defend against potentially lethal violent attacks upon them. They used standard mob-suppression tactics, with the exception that the actions were carried out in an extremely complicated operational environment, with extremely close engagement.
It was the aggression of the "activists" on the ships that caused loss of life. Had they engaged in so-called "peaceful resistance" instead of becoming a violent mod there would have been no deaths. But, as we see so often in these groups, loss of life is the very point of the exercise for them -- it matters not on which side. If it's IDF soldiers, Allahu Akbar! We have won a great victory over the kuffar! If it's the insurgents, it's rich ore from which to mine more victimization propaganda for the "solidarity" machine.
As soon as control was gained the IDF helicoptered wounded INSURGENTS to emergency medical care in the best equipped Israeli hospitals. Their humanitarian behavior is second-to-none. You need only pull up videos and photos of what happens to an IDF soldier who gets caught by a Palestinian mob (ritual evisceration, brutal bludgeoning to death, desecration of the body) to know that there is no moral comparison between the IDF and their enemies in this regard. They did what they had to do, and committed no more violence than was forced by the activists themselves.
Starvation is a condition near death...
They must have displaced a lot of dirt to bury all those starved people...There must be numerous 100 acre cemeteries...
In fact they should be shoveling up numerous emaciated corpses every day...The funeral parlors and Hearse rental companies must be doing a landslide business...If this starvation goes on much longer, there will be no one in Gaza, they will all be six feet under if there is enough space...
This must be the only 'humanitarian crisis' in history that has produced 20 stone porkers.
I wish you would live amongst them because you certainly don't belong here in the West. Still, before you know it, you'll be weighing 25 stone.
Archimedes2
In support of your argument, can I just add something no-one has mentioned yet.
Given that the Israelis are enforcing a legal blockade of the Gaza ports, and that the blockade runners were knowingly and deliberately attempting to break through it, the Israelis, having issued several warnings, would have been within their rights to simply torpedo the flotilla ships as long as they then fulfilled their Geneva Convention obligations by picking up any survivors. Though drastic, such a course of action would certainly have prevented any risk to their own armed forces personnel and I'm willing to bet the Israeli planning group will have considered this.
That they chose instead to deploy boarding parties to detain the ships, despite the fact that this would expose their own commandos to serious danger, shows a high level of humanitarian concern by the IDF and reflects great credit on them. Rather than torpedoing the ships, the Israelis went aboard risking their own lives to save lives among the activists and crew, thereby upholding the highest traditions of firm yet fair, compassionate chivalric warfare. Bravo Israel, another impressive operation.
"Hey Phoenix,calm down this morning ....Take a cup of coffee and some good relaxing pills.....and if you like so much the little terrorist Bastards call palestinians, these Scums of the earth. Why don't you go live there and STAY there forever, everyone will be very happy to never see you again."
Yes! Get out of our country! You are such a low-life, "phoenix," - you are the lowest of the low. You Muzlim Hater, you Jew-Hater, you racist, you bigot, you follower of the mass-murder-commanding moon god, allah.
You pathetic creep. You deserve to be despised. DESPISE "phoenix!" It deserves to be despised. Like Islam, it's Fascist/Nazi mass-murder ideology, invented by a Warlord. DESPISE islam - it DESERVES to be despised.
"I'd gladly live along side them any day of the week."
Today would be good! I'll gladly pay your fare on condition that you never return. That shouldn't be a problem, though, because you'll starve to death there, right? But perhaps attempting to run a naval blockade is more your style?
G'day Robert, Can you tell us when and where the photo at the top (captioned "Starving in Gaza") was taken ?
Old Testament? lol
Gee, I thought we were in the 21st century, pal.
Well said, Hard Rain.
I will copy your letter to give me some inspiration as I write to my Prime Minister, Leader of the Opposition, Foreign Minister and Shadow Foreign Minister, and my elected representative.
I have already sent a suitable email to the Israeli Ambassador in Australia, followed up by a proper snail-mail letter that I posted this afternoon... I figured the Israelis could do with some words of understanding as I am sure the clueless idiots in our government here are giving them a hard time.