Of course, Al-Awlaki did not invent the ideology he has become widely known for propagating. Nor did Osama bin Laden, nor did al-Qaeda. Authorities would have to dig into some highly politically-incorrect territory to get to the root of what motivated Shahzad to pursue violent jihad, especially since his case cannot be written off as the product of poverty or a lack of education. "A Newly Religious Immigrant Is Linked to a Militant Yemeni-American Cleric," by Scott Shane and Marc Mazzetti for the New York Times, May 6:
WASHINGTON -- The Pakistani-American man accused of trying to detonate a car bomb in Times Square has told investigators that he drew inspiration from Anwar al-Awlaki, a Yemeni-American cleric whose militant online lectures have been a catalyst for several recent attacks and plots, an American official said Thursday.
Curious NYT decorum:
The would-be bomber, Faisal Shahzad, said he was "inspired by" the violent rhetoric of Mr. Awlaki, said the official, who would speak of the investigation only on condition of anonymity.
"He listened to him, and he did it," the official said, referring to Saturday's attempted bombing on a busy street in Times Square.
Friends of Mr. Shahzad have said he became more religious and somber in the last year or so, and asked his father's permission in 2009 to join the fight in Afghanistan against American and NATO forces. Investigators believe he was trained by the Pakistani Taliban, a militant group that previously focused mainly on Pakistani government targets.
A senior military official said Thursday that Mr. Shahzad has told interrogators that he met with Pakistani Taliban operatives in North Waziristan in December and January. Later he received explosives training from the same operatives, said the official, who was not authorized to speak publicly about the case.
Counterterrorism officials want to know how Mr. Shahzad, a naturalized American citizen who had earned an M.B.A., married and had children and worked in several corporate jobs, came to embrace violence.
It is no surprise to counterterrorism officials to find that an accused terrorist had been influenced by Mr. Awlaki, 39, now hiding in Yemen, who has emerged as perhaps the most prominent English-speaking advocate of violent jihad against the United States.
Earlier this year, the Obama administration took the extraordinary step of authorizing the killing of Mr. Awlaki, making him the first American citizen on the Central Intelligence Agency's hit list.
Mr. Awlaki's English-language online lectures and writings have turned up in more than a dozen terrorism investigations in the United States, the United Kingdom and Canada, counterterrorism experts have said. And in two recent United States cases, Mr. Awlaki communicated directly with the accused perpetrator.
Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army psychiatrist accused of killing 13 people at Fort Hood, Tex., in November, exchanged about 18 e-mail messages with Mr. Awlaki in the year before the shootings, asking among other things whether it would be permissible under Islam to kill American soldiers preparing to fight in Afghanistan. After the shootings, Mr. Awlaki praised Major Hasan as "a hero" on his Web site, which was taken offline by the Internet host company shortly after the posting.
In addition, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian man accused of trying to blow up a trans-Atlantic airliner on Christmas Day, is believed to have met Mr. Awlaki during his training by Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
It is unclear whether Mr. Shahzad ever directly communicated with Mr. Awlaki.
A video broadcast on April 26 on Al Jazeera showed Mr. Awlaki speaking in Arabic and accusing the United States of participating with Yemeni forces in two air strikes in December, one of which was directed at a house where Mr. Awlaki was believed to be meeting with leaders of the Al Qaeda branch. The video carried the logo of the media arm of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
Mr. Awlakiwas questioned by the F.B.I. late in 2001 about contacts with three of the Sept. 11 hijackers who had attended his mosques in San Diego and Virginia. He denied any radical ties and denounced the 9/11 attacks in public statements.
He was imprisoned in Yemen in 2006 and 2007, and after his release he was more overtly approving of violence. Last year, he published a tract entitled "44 Ways of Supporting Jihad" that was widely circulated on the Internet.
There are 50 ways to leave your lover, but only 44 ways to support jihad. Now you know.
Mr. Awlaki's Web site became a favorite for English-speaking Muslims who were curious about jihad, and hundreds of people sent e-mail messages to his site. It is not known whether Mr. Shahzad was among them, and there is no evidence that Mr. Shahzad visited the cleric in Yemen where he was believed to be hiding in a harsh region of desert and mountains.
Thank you Robert for such a great song reference and, for me, a parody idea!
If Muhammad could personally "consult" with a believer on how to be more like him (al-insan al-kamil, the "perfect man"):
FIFTY WAYS TO BE MUHAMMAD
The problem is all inside your head Mo said to me
The answer is easy if you take it religiously
I'd like to help you with your struggle to "be me"
there must be Fifty ways to "be" Muhammad
He said it's really just my habit to intrude
Furthermore I hope my meaning won't be twisted by the Jews
But I'll repeat myslef, and I don't mind being crude
There must be Fifty ways to be "be" Muhammad
Slip the knife in his back, Haq
Make it to Paki-stan
You will never have joy, boy
and you will never be free
Blow up a bus, Gus
Not allowed to discuss much!
Hadith is the key, Lee
if you wanne "be me"
Twist the knife in his back, Haq
Make it to Paki-stan
You will never have joy, boy
and you will never be free
Blow up a bus, Gus
Not allowed to discuss much!
Hadith is the key, Lee
if you wanna "be me."
He said it thrills me so to see you in such pain
I wish there was something I could prophesize to make you hurt again
I said I appreciate that, and would you please explain
About the fifty ways?
He said why don't we both just smite some Copts tonight
And I believe that in the morning you'll begin to feel alright
And then he hit me, and I realized he probably would bite
There must be fifty ways to "be Muhammad"
Fifty ways to "be Muhammad"
Slip the knife in his back, Haq
Make it to Paki-stan
You will never have joy, boy
And you will never be free
Blow up a bus, Gus
Not allowed to discuss much!
Hadith is the key, Lee
If you wanna "be me"
Twist the knife in his back, Haq
Make it to Paki-stan
You will never have joy, boy
and you will never be free
Blow up a bus, Gus
Not allowed to discuss much!
Hadith is the key, Lee
if you wanna "be me."
Actually, my bad...Marisol!
Sorry!
From the article:
"Earlier this year, the Obama administration took the extraordinary step of authorizing the killing of Mr. Awlaki, making him the first American citizen on the Central Intelligence Agency's hit list."
Why can his citizenship not be revoked?
More, from the article:
"Mr. Awlaki was questioned by the F.B.I. late in 2001 about contacts with three of the Sept. 11 hijackers who had attended *his mosques in San Diego and Virginia*. "
'his mosques in San Diego and Virginia'.
*Which mosques*? Are they still in operation? And if so: WHY?
Finally:
"Mr. Awlaki's Web site became a favorite for English-speaking Muslims who were curious about jihad, and hundreds of people sent e-mail messages to his site {my emphasis - dda}."
Oho. Tiny minority of Extremists?
'Hundreds of people'.
Hundreds of - presumably, English-speaking - Muslims. Many of them, presumably, residents of the English-speaking world or, like the Knickerbomber, from Anglophone Africa?
I hope somebody is tracking them down.
Eleanor,
I sang that song with your lyrics and found myself tappin' my toes to it!
dumdum dumpadum dum
dumdum dumpapum dum
(Fading out with the drums there)
WHY DID HE DO IT?
The alleged sortabomber of Times Square lost his Wall Street job and his family’s home in a foreclosure. Clearly he suffered from a depression.
Many people commit suicide in solitude in such a situation, but that is not an honourable option for a Muslim. By his attempt to kill infidels and strike fear into their hearts he regained his self respect and honour. He was cool and actually smiled when arrested indicating that he had overcome the depression by means of jihad.
Typically people will seek a solution for their personal problems inside the framework of the cultural paradigm they believe in.
Eleanor - brilliant!
To understand the twisted and irrational thought patterns, Try this site - on first glance it seems OT but keep reading.
http://sex-in-islam.com
The home page is a list of articles, look for this one:
Violent sexual obsession and Rape as islamic spirituality by Skeptic Infidel
Elanor,
As a songwriter and a Paul Simon devotee, I must say I'm impressed. I like your verse a little better than the refrain, but it's all good.
Well done!
Hello I am Aadeesh, and I still cannot believe that a dashing looking, well groomed, MBA educated, Wall Street employed, ‘Ray ban’ wearing young Pakistani could have done this.
What's really bad is that he was born a Pakistani (however now American) because now all other poor Pakistanis will be put under pressure on Fox.
Consider now that every time he is mentioned,the word ‘Pakistani’ is repeated ad nauseum. This is going to have serious consequences on the large,hard-working and law abiding Pakistani community in the US/Europe. Everyone everywhere will come into focus and anyone travelling to Pakistan,even to spend time with his/her family will come into focus and to face tough questions from immigration officers when they return.
Sadly,Pakistan does not have a strong lobby who could persuade the media not to malign the whole community. Who (Pakistani) would now be able to immigrate to any country. That means no one is trust worthy !!
More than likely here is a man going crazy steadily. I suspect what we will find is him losing his job and home in this damned financial crisis and then going bezerk.
Friendly advice to American Pakistanis - try to help US govt find out the real truth.
Friendly advice to dear American friends. Don’t let your hate eat on you. It never leads to good. We did that, and we have suffered. Nothing good ever comes out of it. Its even worse when you spread hate thinking - and you think you are too smart for it ever to return to you. The hate you spread always comes back. And usually with interest.
Ipso...The alleged sortabomber of Times Square lost his Wall Street job and his family’s home in a foreclosure. Clearly he suffered from a depression.
Generally speaking, depressed people have a hard time just getting out of bed...Making bombs and blowing things up is not the normal activities of depressed people...Depressed people who are suicidal, don't really want death, they want relief of symptoms...One of the symptoms of depression is 'what's the use'? 'What's the use' sleeps a lot', has little or no drive or ambition, and looses interest in everything except maybe Oprah...I don't think the sortabomber fits that model very well...he much better fits the model of jihadist, stealth and otherwise...He's been to hyperactive to be depressed...
"Friendly advice to dear American friends. Don’t let your hate eat on you. It never leads to good. We did that, and we have suffered. Nothing good ever comes out of it. Its even worse when you spread hate thinking - and you think you are too smart for it ever to return to you. The hate you spread always comes back. And usually with interest."
Oh there is no hate of Pakistani.
Hate of Islam? Absloutely it is a sick, disgusting, violent cult of death.
Friendly advice to dear American friends. Don’t let your hate eat on you.
What hate is that? You don't need to hate a problem to remove it, but sometimes it helps...You know, sometimes hate is appropriate. Islam hates all over the place...everywhere there is a Mahoundian and a kufr in close proximity, there is hate, sometimes close proximity is not required...Mahoundians hate kufr because Allah and Mahound hated kufr, it's in the books...The hate is mutual because kufr don't like to be murdered...
Depressed? aggrivated? life ina rut? Islam, the cult of death has the answer for you, yes, kill someone. Kill for allah and earn a great reward.
I guess many a muslim has takem this advise. Over a thousand holy islamic terrroists acts after 9/11.
duh_swami - ...The hate is mutual because kufr don't like to be murdered...
It's a complicated situation - not a straight forward black and white one. Muslims don't like to get murdered either.
What time and how one dies is not in your hands. Only God knows this information, see how he saved all those people (muslims and non-muslims)in the square in your New York.
The friendly advice to dear American friends on this subject is to have faith in your God, serve him and do good to earn the necessary "brownie points" for a good afterlife. When it will be necessary to start this afterlife is hidden - it could be in the next 10 mins or in 40 years time - so pray whenever you can and do the good whenever you can.
"Friendly advice to dear American friends. Don’t let your hate eat on you."
The only way to fight evil is to "hate" it.
"Sadly,Pakistan does not have a strong lobby who could persuade the media not to malign the whole community. Who (Pakistani) would now be able to immigrate to any country. That means no one is trust worthy !!"
In a way I agree with you, and in another I dont.
Your right, the Pak lobby is not strong enough to enforce anti freedom of speech issues on other countries.
Who does the Pak "community" support? Not the counties that they immigrate to. Their loyalty is to Islam, and its war lord prophet. (Pour Bee's Upon Him)
"The friendly advice to dear American friends on this subject is to have faith in your God, serve him and do good to earn the necessary "brownie points" for a good afterlife.
The God that I serve, it is not nessary to earn "brownie points." The gift of salvation is through the grace of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
"When it will be necessary to start this afterlife is hidden - it could be in the next 10 mins or in 40 years time - so pray whenever you can and do the good whenever you can."
Well done, that is a cute little "vailed" threat.
"The friendly advice to dear American friends on this subject is to have faith in your God, serve him and do good to earn the necessary "brownie points" for a good afterlife."
"Brownie points"? Go away, loser.
Shazad may not be the idiot I once believed him to be . According to a person briefed about the investigation Shazad might have deliberately botched the bombing attempt ..
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/06/unbelievable-shahzad-reportedly-had-contact-with-awlaki-too/
He has said he went along with it because he feared for his family's safety . He might just be saying this to get some sympathy but for some reason I find this convincing .
It's a complicated situation - not a straight forward black and white one. Muslims don't like to get murdered either...
Kufr's have no holy book or Prophet urging them to kill or enslave Mahoundians...
I don’t understand all the things about this case, but it seems to me that every time one of these things happen the name of Kashmir comes up.
I think you are all barking up the wrong tree in looking at Islam when the real issue is solving Kashmir. I think the US should force a solution to Kashmir without which these problem will never finish.
Easiest and only answer really is to give people in Kashmir the choice to do what they want, hold a referendum and give them independence so that all this violence and these large armies can end.
In keeping that problem for so long I think Paksitanis AND Indians and are equally responsible for these attacks.
@Aadeesh Ali 'I think Paksitanis AND Indians and are equally responsible for these attacks.' BULLSHIT .
Kashmir was a peaceful place before Pakistan started fanning and supporting militancy in that state . Before Kashmir there was the Khalistan movement which too was supported by Pakistan . Now the khalistan movement is dead and Punjab is peaceful again .
The problem is Pakistan's pathological hatred of India and its willingness to use terrorism as state policy . Terrorism formed a part of the 'bleed India ' policy which the Pakistani estb. has followed for a long time .
Terrorist plots not only in India but all around the world nowadays have some link to Pakistan .. is that because of Kashmir too ?
Pakistan is a curse for the entire world .
I FATWA YOU!
I, Abdullah Bhullah, the wacky mullah, declare you an apostate!
You are a denying the Qur'an and I can prove it!
The Holy Qur'an sez -
Quran 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's cause; they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."
9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place."
47:4 "When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter, either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam."
Faisal Shazad is a martyr for Islam! Everything he did, Allah approves of! He is no "man going crazy steadily"! He is a Muslim! He is already crazy!
Do not taquiyya me, False Muslim!
"The God that I serve, it is not nessary to earn "brownie points." The gift of salvation is through the grace of Jesus Christ, the Son of God."
Hear, hear, Mobamad ...I don't recall Jesus saying anything about "brownie points" in any of the 4-Gospels, lol ...
I blame islam and the idiots like you that blindly defend your religion of Blood and Death.
Your slavery will end with islams demise. The only possible solution is for islam to cease to exist. "Good muslims" like you will not stand up to the bloody imams and ayatoilets that call for the death of non-muslims...Infidels...me
Your veiled threat has been made in many ways here before now. We see it and your false friendly approach for what it is. You are not the first to come here and lie to us. (You are pretty bad at it compared to some that came before you.)
That is how we know you for what you are...the Enemy. You defend the indefensible. A religion invented by a pedophile. A rapist, a murderous desert bandit whose perversions are legendary.
You defend islam and thus defend the millions of murders that have been committed in you dead false prophets name. You defend thighing, the sodomizing of infants as approved by your ayatollah Khomeini in his little green book.
You defend beating/starving women in to submission. You defend the sexual exploitation of the dancing boys of Afghanistan and the perverted men that seek sex with young boys.
You defend my enemy and the enemy of all free men and women the world over. Slavery/islam cannot be suffered to exist by free people, any more than cancer be ignored and allowed to spread.
Take your advice and pack it right up there where it feels best to you...way up there. Pack it hard!
Hatred? Go to islam for hatred. Here you will find hatred for islam...not muslims in general. For the most part, muslims are unaware that mo (Piss Be Upon Him) had sex with a corpse or that he enjoyed sucking on the tongues of young boys and girls. They don't know that he liked to have men lick his chest. If they knew their "prophet" they would run screaming from islam and bathe in fire to remove its stench from their bodies.
muslims that kill in the name of the false prophet? Much hatred for them and those that inspire them to kill and for those that remain silent knowing that their neighbor is a murderer.
No islam...Know Peace.
Know islam...throw up!
Cornelius, Is it me? and (Darling) George:
Thanks!
Cornelius: I think too the refrain is a tad bit weak. It's tough trying to get your ideas to fit original material sometimes. The only thing I would change in the one verse is, instead of "He said why don't we both just smite some copts tonight" I would change it to "He said why don't we both just sleep with slaves tonight..."
It's much closer in flow, but I thought of it when it was too late. Oh well.
derling Geroge hater: Than song werenot Saudic Arbic with thantouble with than firty weighs. Muhamhand (acwa) werenot sung songs in than manner, he were peiceful man of love and peieces.
Luv too yuo and than somebombs to!
D
Aadeesh Ali : What's really bad is that he was born a Pakistani (however now American) because now all other poor Pakistanis will be put under pressure on Fox.
That's a shame......
Aadeesh Ali : Consider now that every time he is mentioned,the word ‘Pakistani’ is repeated ad nauseum. This is going to have serious consequences on the large,hard-working and law abiding Pakistani community in the US/Europe.
The hard working bomb-makers, the hard working suicide bombers or the hard working average-rioter-in-the-street-moslem I always see on Link-TV (not Fox)?
Aadeesh Ali : Friendly advice to dear American friends.[SNIP] The hate you spread always comes back. And usually with interest.
So you hate us, we shine a very bright light that is the virus of islam and we should fear a reprisal for telling the truth?
Do one, you muggy c**t!
To Adeesh and Al Wacky: You can keep pretending that the so called "religion of peace" IS peaceful, but it is a mere CULT. No head of a religion that wants good for it's people
would EVER tell them to KILL anyone for it. Your perverted
Prophet Mohammad was nothing more than a pervert, who raped little girls. He married Aisha at age 6, then consumated that 'marriage when she was 9'. You follow a false, child
rapist and your men STILL do this to little girls. If you really read that Koran, it preaches violence and YOU and your ilk ALL interpret it as such. Don't come here, giving
'veiled threats' and telling ANY Americans that we should do
this or that in OUR lives-we do NOT respect you and your ideology that tells you to Kill Infidels-that would be us, who DO NOT accept YOUR FALSE CULT OF RELGION. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO KILL US, AND YOU NEED TO WATCH "YOUR BACKS, AS AMERICANS MAY BE TOLERANT OF MOST THINGS, BUT THIS
HAS GONE TOO FAR AND WE ARE GOING TO PROTECT OURSELVES AGAINST YOUR INSECURE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE IN THE 5TH CENTURY AND FOLLOW A DUMB CULT"
BTW: Can't wait for the news that someone has finally gotten to 'Al Wacky' and that they take him out.
and your 'poor depressed latest Terrorist who tried to KILL
Americans....he made 13 trips to Pakistan, so don't try to paint him as a poor soul who lost his job. Many have lost jobs here in America, and we DON'T leave bombs out to kill unsuspecting people. Your ways in doing this, is totally cowardice....You wouldn't Face your Enemy, man to man, but
the sneaks and cowards that you are, you plant bombs then try to "slither away like the snakes you are"
AlaskianInfidel: Excellent Post that tells it "like it is"
I hadn't read it before I posted, but you covered many of my
past postings on various sites. I've just started to come
to this 'most informative website' recently, and already see
the "trolls of Mohammed-the Pervert Rapist" are out in full force.
Again, excellent post. Stay informed and let all that you know be alert and aware, we must stop this insanity of those who come here with their violent so called religion and want to 'convert us, the infidels' and have our country follow that stupid archaic, Sharia Law. I bet the UK is sorry they bent over backwards to comply with these fools and gave in to Sharia Law. They are losing their country over it.
We here in America need to do ALL we can in ousting this present crooked administration that wants us to
'look the other way, as Terrorists/Muslim/Islamists infest America, and get a pass from the "Muslim in Chief-Obama"
Hello I am Aadeesh, and I still cannot believe that a dashing looking, well groomed, MBA educated, Wall Street employed, ‘Ray ban’ wearing young Pakistani could have done this.
Man crush for sure...
'tanks...
As you said...just telling it like it is...
No islam...Know Peace.
Know islam...throw up!
as friendly as your local Pakistani gas station attendent may be....Sudden Jihad syndrome can strike at any time...Islam does that to a Muslim..
"Over a thousand holy islamic terrroists acts after 9/11."
Well, the actual figures are more like 15,000+ , which reinforces your point.