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Muslim student who admitted support for Jewish genocide now says, "Death to Israel"

This just in from Jihad Watch reader Inexion: the Muslim student at the University of California at San Diego who affirmed her support for the genocide of the Jews has now commented on the controversy on an Internet bulletin board, saying, "Death to Israel":

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So earlier on Monday this week David Horowitz came out to speak at University of California San Diego for Israel Apartheid Week. The event was hosted by Young Americans for Freedom, which are your basic, Reagan fellating college republicans. Anyways, it was the usual imperialist, apologetic bullshit that Horowitz spits out in defense of the state of Israel. Later on though he took questions, and just today I found out that someone recorded mine and put it up on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fSvyv0urTE

I asked him about some statements he had made about how the MSA had financial connections to "jihadist terrorists". Of course he couldn't back his bullshit up, so he just squirmed around and accused me of being a terrorist, lol.

So I figure we could use this thread to discuss how pathetic David and others of his Ilk are for trying to defend one of most oppressive states in modern history. Also, good strategies on how to confront these cowards and show them for the worms they are. Death to Israel.

UPDATE: Jumanah Albahri, Miss Islamic Genocide above, is now denying that she said what she said, and trying to cover her tracks. David Swindle over at NewsReal Blog isn't buying.

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"trying to defend one of most oppressive states in modern history" the correct answer for this islamist loser would all islamic states starting with iran, saudi arabia etc.

"Death to Israel"?

Sure sounds like a terrorist to me! Horowitz hit the nail on the head.

"The event was hosted by Young Americans for Freedom, which are your basic, Reagan fellating college republicans."


Is the wearing of the "hijab" -- not so much for "modesty" as out of a desire to deflect the unquenchable savage attentions of lustful males who cannot, apparently, control themselves -- really quite enough to constitute proper behavior?

Is this what a "modest" Muslimah should be posting for all the world to read?

What would Al-Qaradawi think?

...it will surely be a fabulous world when all the Jews and kuffars are eliminated and the glorious peoples of Islam can live in peace together...........there would be no internecine squabbling then ...or maybe just a bit of Shiite/Sunni misunderstanding with the odd few thousand suicide bombers and beheadings.....but the anti-infidel edicts in the Koran would then be rendered irrelevant.....making it flawed......and that can't happen can it? ....so why do Muslims bother? ....because they are the peasants of civilisation

This charming female, in calling for "Death to Israel," is merely extending the pluralist intentions of our pal Muhammad, as shown in one of the two most canonical hadith collections:

Sahih Muslim, 19.4366

It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) say:"I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim."

In Sahih Bukhari, the most canonical of hadith collections, Muhammad said, "Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him."

Such a nice guy! No wonder this charming female follows him.

This student's accent sounds American to me. I would think she was likely born in the US.

Her choice of words is practised. She has obviously tried out various insults, rolled them around on her tongue, written them out, and stored them in her brain to be called upon when she needs to belittle anyone who thinks differently than she does.

And, as Hugh comments, the hijab does little to ensure that her choice of language is limited to modest phrases.

In the full-length video of Lars Vilks' talk which was disrupted a few days ago, one can see (and hear) several young Muslimas, frothing with blind love for their prophet, using language which is gutter-vile. Apparently Allah approves of obscene words hurled from the mouths of the female sex.

Didn't Allah read his own directive that women are to protect their modesty?


Hugh sez:

Is this what a "modest" Muslimah should be posting for all the world to read?

What would Al-Qaradawi think?

We are not dealing with gentlemen here. Neither are their women kindly disposed towards us.

An English Labour hack has just been stabbed by one shrouded Muslima although is is known as a great appeaser and a willing dhimmi tool.

Why do you call her an islamist?

I've been reading the thread on this at The Something Awful forum. It's a hoot! Most of them are bashing her hard. Even those who dislike Horowitz are against her for making such a fool of herself.

Horowitz 1, Jihad 0

Reality has little to do with perceptions and religious belief, so it doesn't matter that Horowitz made or proved his point.

What matters is that in the current climate and momentum of political and ideological zealotry, any exchange with a party holding pro-genocidal views is deemed valid and won by that person or group.

The slogan "Kill the Jews" is nowadays acceptable in the West, whilst "Never again", in relation to the holocaust, is regarded as a quaint reminder of something that may or may not have happened but if it happens again is well deserved.

The slogan "Kill the Jews" is nowadays acceptable in the West,

I'm in the west...the far west...and it's not acceptable around here...There are a handful of local liberal/leftists here that think that way, but most of them are on drugs, live in the woods and grow dope...When they come into town to pick up their welfare checks and food stamps, they head immediately to the store to buy cigarettes and beer...Sometimes while they are standing in line, they just suddenly blurt out 'Kill the Jews'...Boy do they get some dirty looks...About once a month, usually on welfare payment day, they commandeer the one busy local overpass, and have an anti-war, anti-Bush, anti-Israel and anti-Jew demonstrations...They light candles, have 'Women in Black', and of course they bring all their children...You can frequently hear shouts of death to Israel, death to Jews...But the rest of the community shuns them, and sometimes have been known to throw rocks...
'The slogan 'death to Jews', is not popular here...the only reason that more citizens don't throw rocks is because the haters hide behind their children...

I think it is wise to see everything in perspective. This girl has no perspective. What Nasrallah said was that he not only wanted the state of Israel to disappear but that his organisation, the group to which he belongs, and he belongs to Islam, ultimately wanted to hunt down all Jews!!! To exterminate them, what else?

Is he a simpleton, insane, are his words ambiguous, bad translated, out of context? And is he not an Islamic cleric, what with the black Turban on his head? Is he not supported by the Islamic Republic of Iran, whose president screams about annihilation of Israel with bombs?

And she herself, is she a simpleton, or insane? When she says: "For it".

I see 3 choices in describing her: 1. A hater, endorser of nazi-like ideology. 2. A simpleton, insane. 3. Immature, without perspective, sane but not using her brains much, very prejudiced, very double-standard-hypocrite, Islam-supremacist. Not very moral.

But I congratulate her for speaking so publicly, so fearlessly, so brave, so disrespectful against MEN, in her religion her superiors. I wonder if she believes the prophet Muhammad, who taught that women were inferior in intelligence to men. And I wonder if she had permission to speak and write on Internet of her father or brothers or keepers.

She's not a terrorist (lol)—but says "Death to Israel". Perhaps she is unclear on the concept.

I went to a salon hosted by an old friend in San Francisco yesterday—he is Jewish, and very, very, "liberal" and "pro-peace" (in fact, he had an American flag with a peace symbol replacing the stars flying from his window). Most of the other guests were the same. He is very intelligent—but entirely clueless about the threat we face from people like the MSA head quoted above.

I showed a lot of my artwork, including a few anti-Jihad pieces. My friend said that it was his understanding that "about 90% of the references to Jihad in the Qur'an were peaceful references to self-discipline and self-improvement, and only a handful about 'anything else'".

I told him it was closer to the opposite. Of course, he has never read the Qur'an himself. When I showed my "I Am A Gharkad Tree" painting, I quoted the Hadith about Muslims killing Jews in the last days. Several people actually physically recoiled—it is very shocking, especially if you have never heard it before.

Here is my "I Am A Gharkad Tree" painting:

http://s478.photobucket.com/albums/rr144/gravenimageartist/?action=view¤t=gharkad.jpg&newest=1

I think there are a lot of people like my friend—who don't recognize the threat to civilized people like themselves, because—intelligent as they are—they simply cannot conceive of people who truly wish them harm—of people who can say "Death to Israel!", and really, truly mean it.

I suspect, from her voice, her aspect, her subsequent clarifyingly immodest email (I doubt if a Muslim girl who had been born and raised in Islam would with such deliberately casual I've-been-around familiarity use the word "fellating"), and the evident delight she took in reciting her Arabic name, and savoring the various names she so unnecessarily added, that kunya-chain of ancestry (for all we know, perfectly unsuspecting non-Muslim ancestors have just had their names islamized by this disturbing fruit, which is what happens when modern life digs up the mental roots of some formerly sturdy family tree. It's of no great moment, but one is curious to see if one's suspicions can be confirmed.

"Do you condemn Hamas and Hezbollah?"

A simple yes or no question....The usual Muslim beat around the bush type of answer is very telling.

"Failure to condemn Hamas and Hezbollah must mean you support them"....yep...

As Usual Muslims fear that the truth about Islam is being discovered by Infidels....


"Death to Israel" is certainly spoken by all the Muslim terrorist groups...large and small....and all Muslim terrorists groups are certainly abiding by the instructions provided by the Qur'an....The Muslim terrorists know what it takes to be a good Muslim...

Peace is Un-Islamic..

This does not surprise me. What I find funny is people will say that Muslims in whole are good and it is a few deranged apples that spoil it for the bunch. No, they are clear thinking people who know exactly what they want (because the Koran tells) and that is to have a world where Islam is the only religion that prevails.

I find it scary that this type of thinking is increasing amongst our college students. I guess they do not need “PrIslam “as much when they can go on to US campuses and recruit for their cult religion.

By the way, her answer as to why she doesn't answer the question "Do you support Hamas or Hezbollah?" clearly shows the fear in her... should she answer "NO"...Muslims have been know to kill Muslims who don't support their Qur'anic visions of cleansing the earth of Infidels..

Peace is Un-Islamic...

I like it, Gravenimage! It sends a visually appealing, unambiguous message to the informed (including muslims) and it arouses the curiosity of the uninformed, thereby providing an opportunity to educate them when they ask questions.

It conveys loads of info at a glance, making it suitable for display on a car, poster, billboard or other location where a message must be absorbed quickly by the reader and retained in their memory.

To English-speaking botanists, the gharqad tree is known as the African boxthorn (Lycium ferocissimum). More information about it, including the genocidal hadith, may be found here.

She's a goon? Who woulda thunk it?

I'll say this again, because I seem to have been censored. ( Didn't know the odd expletive was frowned upon here. Won't do it again! Promise. But I don't like being censored. I had to calm myself.)

If what Al-Bahri said is so objectionable, does it qualify as hate speech?

"For it" Inferring that-

"I am for the genocide of all Jews and the destruction of the state Israel and the merciless massacre of all Jewish Men, Women and cot babies in it."

Isn't that hate speech? Is anyone doing anything about it? Ought not her Wahhabi, pasty white derriere be dragged to court, if nothing to set an example that we will actually start standing up for each other.

I'm not Jewish. But I would be prepared to make their war my war. Al- Bahri's comments are not only unacceptable to Jews and Israeli's, they are unacceptable to every red bloodied human being. That was my message.

Censor that.

DH "Do you support Hamas?"

MG "Are you asking me to put myself on a cross?"

No, he was asking a straight question but as seems to be universal amongst Islamists living in the Dar el Harb, a straight answer always seems to evade them.

Here's further evidence of her taqqiya.

UCSD Muslim Student Responds to David Horowitz Event
Posted on May 16, 2010 by fortruthforloveforjustice

To the General and Campus Communities:

As you are all well aware, I am the one who spoke at the David Horowitz event this past Monday May 10, 2010.

Allow me to begin by stating that I do NOT condone murder, I do NOT condone genocide, and I do NOT condone racism under any circumstance whatsoever against Jews or anyone else. These accusations are lies that I refuse to allow David Horowitz and his allies to perpetuate in their irresponsible and hateful smear campaign against those who disagree with or differ from them.

On April 19, 2010 I volunteered to speak at the Racism/Genocide Holocaust Event last April only because of my strong convictions against genocide like the Holocaust. I was there every step of the way during the protests denouncing racism on campus last quarter—from the very beginning to the very end. Never have I uttered a negative syllable towards or about any person because of their ethnicity or religion on campus or otherwise, Jewish or otherwise. Regardless of my participation in these events, for Mr. Horowitz to insinuate that I am anti-Semitic is ridiculous; I am a Semite.

I attended the event as an individual, not as a representative of any organization, least of all the MSA. My presence was solidly founded in my academic and personal quests to hear diverse viewpoints. Unfortunately, Mr. Horowitz is a seasoned polemicist whose intent is not to encourage academic discussion by expounding his arguments or even supporting his positions with hard facts, but to excite the passions of an audience. Mr. Horowitz spent an hour indiscriminately attacking liberals, students, Arabs, Muslims, and Palestinians, utilizing verbiage that completely departed from an academic tone and delved into hate speech—especially labeling groups and individuals that support Palestinian rights “terrorists.”

Insofar as my references to Hitler and the Nazi Youth programs: it was Mr. Horowitz who spent a substantial amount of time referring to the MSA as the “Hitler Youth” and its Justice in Palestine Week as “Hitler Youth Week”— pejorative titles that as a human being, a student of history, and a person of faith, I find disgusting. I uttered them in a sarcastic manner only to point out the ridiculous and slanderous nature of Mr. Horowitz’s labels—Nazis sought the extermination of anyone who was not “white,” and this racial category excludes the vast majority of the Muslim population.

I asked Mr. Horowitz to explain the purported connection between UCSD’s MSA and “Jihadist Terrorist Networks.” His pamphlet did not mention the organization; rather it focused on other groups like UCI’s MSU and Berkley and LA’s MSA chapters, and offered supporting grounds that can be characterized as shaky at best, with sources that had little credibility. He chose not to engage my question (his opening arguments were the verbatim generalizations made in the pamphlet, though my question asked for specifics) but instead decided to subject me to an interrogation because of my headscarf and Palestinian kuffiyeh. The fact that Mr. Horowitz claimed on a respected national cable news network that the MSA receives forty thousand dollars to put on Justice in Palestine Week, speaks volumes to his status as a gross exaggerator who should not be trusted to deliver opinions on anything. The information can be found here on UCSD’s official website http://as.ucsd.edu/finance/sofr_view_program.php?id=710.

Towards the end of the exchange, I became emotional. I could no longer hear Mr. Horowitz speaking and so did not even hear his injection of Hezbollah’s credo of “rounding up” Jews in his last tangent. I could no longer contain my anger at being implicitly and improperly labeled a terrorist, an anti-Semite, and a proponent of genocide. The answer I was coerced into giving grossly misrepresented my beliefs and ideologies.

My answer, “for it,” in the context in which it was said does NOT mean “for” genocide. I was referring to his initial question that asked me for my position on Hamas, a topic that for his own political reasons he was relentless in pursuing. “For it” was not a legitimization of Hezbollah’s or anyone else’s credo for that matter that Jews should be exterminated. In fact, Mr. Horowitz’s intent was to entrap me with his barrage of questions so that he could avoid answering my question, and construe any answer that I would provide as anti-Semitic, genocidal hate speech in order to further his political agenda.

I am not a member of Hamas, nor have I ever given support to Hamas, nor do I agree their actions or stances wholesale, but I refused to offer Mr. Horowitz a blanket condemnation of Hamas that night. I felt that doing so would be a blanket condemnation of the Palestinian cause. I refused to throw the baby (the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people) out with the bathwater (Hamas.) In addition, Mr. Horowitz asked me to condemn Hamas as a genocidal organization; which to my limited knowledge on the subject, is another unsupported claim made by Mr. Horowitz.

My opinion of Hamas is not as simple as condemn or condone, “for it” or “against it.” I firmly believe that the killing of civilians, even as “collateral damage” regardless of creed, politics, sexuality, nationality, or ethnicity is one of the highest crimes in the eyes of God and is morally reprehensible and abhorrent. But I condone Hamas in its ambition to liberate the Palestinian people. I condone Hamas as the duly elected representative government of the Palestinian people granted governance in an election overseen by our ex-President Jimmy Carter; and characterized as fair, open, and fully democratic. I condone Hamas in its desire to end the inhumane siege of the Gazan people. I condone Hamas in its struggle to free the 10,000 Palestinian men, women, and children unjustly locked away in Israeli prisons. It seems that in Mr. Horowitz’s logic, my support of freedom, peace, and justice makes me a “terrorist.”

David Horowitz can try to erase my history, the history of my grandparents, the history of the Palestinian people, he can call me a terrorist, he can mischaracterize my faith as bloody, and my God as false, but I will NOT allow him to vilify me as a racist or a proponent of genocide and remain silent.

For Peace, For Love, For Justice,

Jumanah Imad Albahri

awesome exchange of words.

touche David Horowitz.

trying to even follow the logic of these Islamo types is more often than not a waste of time, plus it makes my brain ache from effort.

for instance, what's wrong with this picture?

"May the Peace of The Holy Prophet be Upon You"

what's wrong? everything. because it pre-supposes that:

1. There is something somehow holy about that evil monster. and

2. That he had a peaceful intent. when, in fact, he is neither holy, nor does he harbor any shred of peaceful intent in his heart, the blackest of all pirate hearts.

touche David Horowitz you are a better man than I as you have the much needed patience to spend precious time debating the likes of these. I have no such patience. I salute you sir!

The answer I was coerced into giving grossly misrepresented my beliefs and ideologies.

Clearly what she meant was : The answer I inadvertently gave represented my sick beliefs and hateful ideology.

You're welcome.

Since when has it become acceptable or tolerable anywhere in the West the call and the incitement for the death of an entirety of a people, country?
This perpetual war islam commands is in our shores, campuses,our communities and in all of our larger cities ,in the US as well as Europe.
To restrict ones response to this kind of call to murder by only smart debating , rhetoric and hopeful appeals to reason is not sufficiently effective, but apparently it is nourishing it towards greater vigor amongst the brainwashed zombies of mohamed.
Everything that has to do with islam is part of the what we as individuals have to abhor and protect ourselves from.
Islam kills, islam is at war with us, islam is the enemy.

"My answer, “for it,” in the context in which it was said does NOT mean “for” genocide. I was referring to his initial question that asked me for my position on Hamas, a topic that for his own political reasons he was relentless in pursuing. “For it” was not a legitimization of Hezbollah’s or anyone else’s credo for that matter that Jews should be exterminated. "

Nice damage-control try!

I suspect -- but who knows -- that she didn't mean by saying "for it" to support genocide, but was flustered and confused by being in front of an audience and a (understandably) hostile lecturer.

She is certainly terribly uninformed and misinformed.

wakingwest : Islam kills, islam is at war with us, islam is the enemy

Even to the point where moslems openly declare us their enemy.

I completely agree with you, wakingwest. What makes me angry is that our ruling elite and the MSM would tell us otherwise in order to assist in the shift of power. Their old revenue stranglehold won't last forever.

Anyone who knows islam to be the enemy needs to be actively doing something about it. This forum is a fine conduit for gathering the information to pass on to others but I suggest getting out there and getting a little dirty also.

She is a product of what she has been taught.

She knew precisely what she was saying and also the question she was answering.

To suggest she was responding to something asked earlier is refuted by her, 'for it' reply.

I don't intend to pile-on this young woman. Her problems go well beyond being deceived into following a hate-filled false religion. She was probably a social outcast and only found acceptance through conversion. She has literally sold her soul for acceptance. In spite of her hateful beliefs, she should be pitied.

Imagine what's going on and being said back in her home now?

Momma Muslim, screeching and wailing: you'll get us all deported.

Daddy Muslim, what did we tell you about talking with those filthy Jews and kuffar? They'll always stitch you up.

And so her unintended hostile admission will be morphed into a victimisation screed of islamophobia and racism.

It's always the way, as if it came from nowhere. Always the victim. Never admit the provocation. It's the West. It's the Jews. Never, ever Islam.

The good news? We are all catching on. Rob me once it's your fault. Rob me twice, it's mine for not being prepared.

We are now prepared by the unremitting torrents of information out there and the astounding similarity of what we see and read about this religion.

The goal is world domination. The methodology, far worse than terror is the probing into our soft underbelly of political correctness and blind obsession with diversity at any cost.

Our politicians believe they are immune from the fallout of square pegs in round holes but come election time we have to call the shots on this abrogation of the first responsibility of state, keeping us and our nations secure.

In Britain the bull in the china shop which until recently dared not speak its name was immigration.

Now? It was either number one or two on doorstep questions to MP's in the recent ellections. It is, quite simply, unignorable.

Our then Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, on unintended open mic called an old lady a 'bigot' for raising the question.

He lost the election and that faux pas is reckoned to have clinched the loss.

At last, the worm is turning.

Whoops! Election.

Guess my earlier "comment" was edited by "quality control". Oh well. We all have our own opinions. When muslims in the USA, and in the world in general, get a free pass, with the ability to incite hatred, violence, all through the lense of political correctness what can we expect. Guess we have to appear to be more proper than muslims are. Sure hope the winds of political correctness to not blow to swiftly, to affect the purpose of the honorable folks at Jihad Watch.

Will try to moderate my comments in the future to only use "clean" words. My intent was not to offend anyone.


"David Horowitz can try to erase my history, the history of my grandparents, the history of the Palestinian people, he can call me a terrorist, he can mischaracterize my faith as bloody, and my God as false, but I will NOT allow him to vilify me as a racist or a proponent of genocide and remain silent.

For Peace, For Love, For Justice,

Jumanah Imad Albahri"

Mr Horowitz was only asking for the truth....and Jumanah Imad Albahri failed..

he can mischaracterize my faith as bloody, and my God as false

'mischaracterize'..?

I don't think even Mr. Horowitz can do that.

"he can mischaracterize (sic) my faith as bloody, and my God as false"

Exactly. Your faith IS bloody, and your god IS false.

Any questions?

"Death to Israel"

Never happen! I laugh at those who wish Israel dead, because this will NEVER, EVER happen according to God's word:

"Remember your servants Abraham, Isaac and Israel, to whom you swore by your own self: 'I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and I will give your descendants all this land I promised them, and it will be their inheritance forever." -- Exodus 32:13

And to this muslim student and to ALL that wish Israel dead, this is what God's word says to you:

"and I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse: and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed." -- Genesis 12:3

'The slogan 'death to Jews', is not popular here...the only reason that more citizens don't throw rocks is because the haters hide behind their children...

LOL! - It sounds like you are living in my side of the town . wait . the same happens in Israel. Their tactics hasn't changed since 600, typical cowards - (In my view most lefties are potential MoSlum).

"and I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse: and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed." -- Genesis 12:3

This verse is referring to Israel ...


Muslims mass-murdering in Somalia.

Gee, what else is new with the "rop?"


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100516/ap_on_re_af/af_somalia

I saw this a little while ago when it first aired. (Video clip).
Much has been said about her Masterclass in free-speach.
However if I had a wish, it would be that she is sat down with her parents and the tape replayed to the three of them.
Education - "What a wonderful thing !"
Mom and Dad leave and run away from home.

Islam.. the religion of peace.. I KILL YOU INFIDEL!

Horowitz: If you don’t condemn Hamas, obviously you support it. Case closed. I have had this experience at UC Santa Barbara, where there were 50 members of the Muslim Students Association sitting right in the rows there. And throughout my hour talk I kept asking them, will you condemn Hizbollah and Hamas. And none of them would. And then when the question period came, the president of the Muslim Students Association was the first person to ask a question. And I said, ‘Before you start, will you condemn Hizbollah?’ And he said, ‘Well, that question is too complicated for a yes or no answer.’ So I said, ‘Okay, I’ll put it to you this way. I am a Jew. The head of Hizbollah has said that he hopes that we will gather in Israel so he doesn’t have to hunt us down globally. For or Against it?

MSA member: For it.

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There is no confusion here at all. Its "For it".

Re: "To English-speaking botanists, the gharqad tree is known as the African boxthorn (Lycium ferocissimum). More information about it, including the genocidal hadith, may be found here."

The link isn't working -- try again!

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P.S. This "Muslimabelle" needs a fatwa on her head. It is already fat and ready...

From the cloud of ink sprayed out by the Muslim squid:

"For Peace, For Love, For Justice,

Jumanah Imad Albahri".

'Peace, Love, Justice'.

Well, let's find out what those words mean in 'Islamspeak'.

In Islamspeak, 'justice' means 'Sharia', or, 'a state of affairs in conformity with Sharia'.

'Peace', in Islamspeak, refers to that state of affairs in which Muslims rule and everyone else has been either turned into a Muslim, crushed beneath the Muslim boot as a near-slave dhimmi buying life (some of the time) by paying an exorbitant annual fee of 'protection' money, or...KILLED.

For the information of newcomers to this forum, I suggest the reading of the article that will be found at the following link:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/07/islamic-dictionary-for-infidels.html

"Islamic Dictionary for Infidels"
- from the European essayist Wolfgang Bruno.

From that essay, a little on the very special Islamic meaning of 'peace':

'Since subjugation to Islam alone can bring peace, Muslims consider themselves to be "spreading peace" when they raid, maim and kill from Europe to Central Asia.'

and

'Peace: "Peace" in Islam equals submission to the will of Allah through his divine and eternal law, sharia, and the extension of the Dar al-Islam – or 'House of Islam' – to cover the entire world.

'The absence of sharia is the absence of peace.

'Since it is the will of Allah that Islam will rule the entire planet, entering non-Muslim lands to subjugate the population and wipe out their corrupt, infidel culture is not seen by Muslims as "waging war," but as spreading peace.'

As for 'love':

Muslims don't practise the Golden Rule. There is NO universal ethics in Islam; it is dualistic; one rule for Muslims, another rule for everyone else. Proper Muslims are supposed to be nice to one another ONLY, while being nasty to non-Muslims. They are NOT commanded to love, or befriend, or help, or make lasting and genuine agreements with non-Muslims.

From the Qur'an, Surah 48: 29 - "Muhammad is Allah's Apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another”.

From Ibn Ishaq's canonical Sira, or biography of Mohammed, 231 - “Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders.”

The principle derived from those and other texts is this: Loyalty (to fellow Muslims) and Enmity (toward everyone else).

http://salafiyyah-jadeedah.tripod.com/wala_wal_bara/Alee_Imran.htm

As S. D. Goitein wrote in an article in Commentary, January 1949, entitled “Cross-Currents in Arab National Feeling”, p. 161.


“Islamic fanaticism…is now openly encouraged…writers whose altogether Western style (was mentioned earlier) have been vying with each other for some time in compiling books on the heroes and virtues of Islam…

"What has now become possible in educated circles may be gathered from an issue of the ‘New East’, an Arab monthly periodical describing itself as the ‘organ of the academic youth of the East’ [emphasis added]:


‘Let us fight fanatically for our religion; let us love a man - because he is a Moslem; let us honor a man- because he is a Moslem; let us prefer him to anyone else- because he is a Moslem; and never let us make friends with unbelievers, because they have nothing but evil for us.’ "
END QUOTE.

The attitude expressed there is bog-standard Islam.


Kim stated:

Islam.. the religion of peace.. I KILL YOU INFIDEL!

So true. This is a bit off the topic, but it shows how Islam is a religion of violence, ignornace, hatred, any good word one could use to adquately describe the horror of the regigion of Islam. In this case a Palestinian husband kill his wife becuase the ultrasound showed the fetus was female. How apt for the relgion of peace.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/05/13/phyllis-chesler-palestinian-husband-wife-ultrasound-girl-honor-killing/

Sorry for misspelled words. "Adequately", "Religion" of Islam, and "killed" his wife was meant. Am usually not that bad with spelling.

If anybody needed clarification ...

Sometimes it's hard to determine whether Islam is simply really screwed up or just simply evil (personally I favor the latter). Of course, reasonable minds can differ on this one, preferably over several glasses of fine beer.

Ah, what a burden to all mankind Islam is, even, ironically, to Muslims themselves, though they don't know it (well, many Mohammedans probably deep in their heart suspect the truth). One hell of a legacy this Islam has. Like no other.

Regarding the language this woman used... Some of the most vile and disgusting things I've read on the Internet have been from Islamist types trying to defend the "honor" of their ideology.

When one cannot refute what is being said or intelligently discuss, they always resort to the lowest of communication forms. No doubt Robert Spencer has been the recipient of some very choice suggestions relating to his family and particularly it's female members - these people are sick and twisted. Better we out them for what they are.

"Since when has it become acceptable or tolerable anywhere in the West the call and the incitement for the death of an entirety of a people, country?"

Since about 10 to 20 years now, during which time Western PC MC has adopted and incorporated the idea that Israel is an "Apartheid regime" -- yea, even a "Fascist regime" -- that is "oppressing" its preciously Brown Population of Muslim Victims, and in so doing has been wantonly murdering "Palestinian" men, women and children for no other reason than that Israelis are wicked right-wing tyrants.

It's no longer merely a fringe of Leftists (along with a fringe of ultra-right-wingers) who think this way: since Leftism has become part of the mainstream through the percolation of PC MC, this anti-Israel stance -- ranging on a spectrum from skeptical disapproval all the way to demonization -- along with its flip side of the coin, the endowment of Muslims with the privileged award of Top Minority for the West to Respect, has become axiomatically assumed and integrated into any discussion or analysis of the "problem of the Middle East".

If some Muslima in California implies that she supports Hamas, and supports violence against Israelis, the axiom kicks in to place such a stance into its proper framework of "context": the Muslima represents a people who are "desperate" after years of being wickedly "oppressed" by the "Apartheid regime" of Israel, you see -- and since this people is perceived to be ethnic, all bets are off, and Israel is handicapped prejudicially from the start.

After seeing this video, I couldn't help but wonder how many marriage proposals she received. I'm not kidding, I bet that she got plenty!

"She is a product of what she has been taught."

The product of radical anti-American professors who saw what was needed to destroy and rebuild America according to their Marxist/Socialist dreams regardless of what allies they may employ.
Like having cancer as an ally to defeat freedom. That their ally will consume them once their shared enemy of Liberty is destroyed does not concern them. They embrace slavery no matter what it's form.

islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.

Undertaker : I couldn't help but wonder how many marriage proposals she received.

I hope she avails herself of one immediately and is treated as mohammed (Pedophile, misogynist, murderer, liar, maniac, thief, parasite etc)treated his wives. Particularly the beating part as the Harridan sounds like it would be beneficial.

Oh...and,

Death to islam.
Free the slaves.

What I want to know is... how can Islam forbid eating pork while allowing one of its followers to be made of pork?

Well, remember how many men were offering up their daughters to the shoe thrower in Iraq. I am a woman and have gotten to the point that when I see a hijabi, I actually think of them as less intelligent. If their religion dictates that they are deficient in intelligence and they willingly adhere to it, who am I to set them straight.

I know you were indulging yourself there and can't blame you for that but I can't go so far as to advocate that she be beaten. She's had the honor of living in the West and judging from her demeanor and lack of accent, I think she grew up here - wonder how she'd like to be plopped down in some Islamic paradise like Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia? We can only hope that some Saudi finds her fetching and she goes there to be told what she can and can't do every waking minute of the day, then she would experience real oppression.

OK, that was bad but I have to say that I did laugh ;)

She'll probably earn her degree and then become a suicide
bomber.

Jumanah offers a pathetically inadequate explanation for her behavior and attempts to place blame on David Horowitz for "coercing" her answer: "For it!" To claim she was "coerced" is beyond ludicrous!

I concur with previous posters who commented that she had evidently practiced her assault on Horowitz, from rehearsing her speech and reciting her name to the demeaning of Horowitz' lecture. She blames Horowitz for being a "skilled polemicist" and, indeed, he is. He read her like a book from the second she approached the microphone with her Palestinian Keffiyeh. The woman was extremely arrogant and no doubt believed that she was supremely prepared to take on an elderly Jew. Jumanah will remember this day for the rest of her life as a day when she was humiliated internationally and revealed as a genocidal racist.

But has she learned anything from this experience? Only in the narrowest sense. If David Horowitz ever appears at UCSD again, Jumanah will not show up.

She said "Death to Israel"

Islam is the pernicious fruit when moronism and evil mate. Very explosive, as all the Muslim terrorists taught us. Lesson learned.

BTW, someone here should download this video as no doubt that she and others are going to try and have it removed from Youtube.

We need more David Horowitz(s) and Pamela Geller(s). They are our modern day Paul Revere(s). We must continue to fight islamic extremism when our governments will not. Sure, America and the western world is at war, but they cannot identify the real enemy.

She may be trying to mitigate her words now but she meant exactly what she said and how we all understood it. Perhaps she would like to blame Horowitz... who knows maybe he put the "sheeny curse" on her and forced her to fess up.

"Is the wearing of the "hijab" -- not so much for "modesty" as out of a desire to deflect the unquenchable savage attentions of lustful males who cannot, apparently, control themselves -- really quite enough to constitute proper behavior?"

Well, looking at this creature one would guess that only extreme vanity and wishful thinking would lead to imagining she possessed some feminine quality, not apparent to a casual observer, that would trigger any such unquenchable savage attentions by lustful males directed toward her. Since we know she is a devout Muslima who would never be guilty of such vanity, I conclude she just had a bad hair day.

"...download this video..."

Done and archived.

This fine example of islamic piggery bored me the moment she uttered her very weighty word filled name. You had your 10 minutes of fame now get back to your rathole, go away.

"This fine example of islamic piggery bored me the moment she uttered her very weighty word filled name. You had your 10 minutes of fame now get back to your rathole, go away."

I can't believe we are tolerating these Barbarians in our country.

"Is the wearing of the "hijab" -- not so much for "modesty" as out of a desire to deflect the unquenchable savage attentions of lustful males who cannot, apparently, control themselves -- really quite enough to constitute proper behavior?"

This is one instance where I'm actually grateful for the Islamic dress code. Could you imagine Jumanah Al Pigproduct with less clothes on? I don't think all the Viagra in the world could bring someone back from that mental voyage.

Apropos of my comment above --

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/muslim-student-who-admitted-support-for-jewish-genocide-now-says-death-to-israel.html#comment-669591

-- I found this evidence of an example of just what I was referring to, as reported by a reader on Lawrence Auster's site: The latest issue of The American Conservative "made the usual comparison of Israel to South Africa—usual in the sense that we have come to expect that from leftist writers—and supported a boycott of Israel just as South Africa had been boycotted and noted hopefully that the day would surely not be long off before everyone would see a boycott of Israel as being as necessary and just as a boycott of South Africa."

And the reader goes on to ask:

"...since when does a supposedly traditional or paleo or at least non-neo conservative magazine come down in favor of the boycott of South Africa because of how it treated its blacks?"

To which I would answer, as I did above to the similar question of a commenter here: since about 10 to 20 years ago, only accelerating now as PC MC is allowing itself to be galvanized in various pro-Islamic ways (including, of course, various flavors of vilification of Israel, ranging from relatively mild distaste to righteous indignation to outright demonization, and often, intermixed among these, more or less crypto-anti-Judaism).

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/016483.html

Woops, correction to my last post: I hastily included that final rhetorical question of that reader, but that involves an issue separate from my point.

My point remains: why is a conservative organ like The American Conservative vilifying Israel?

And the answer, of course, is that Conservatism has become PC-MC-ified -- i.e., to an extent Lefticized, through the seemingly innocuous infiltration of "Leftism Lite" -- over the recent past.

Gravenimage

you wrote

"I went to a salon hosted by an old friend in San Francisco yesterday—he is Jewish, and very, very, "liberal" and "pro-peace" (in fact, he had an American flag with a peace symbol replacing the stars flying from his window). Most of the other guests were the same. He is very intelligent—but entirely clueless about the threat we face from people like the MSA head quoted above.

"I showed a lot of my artwork, including a few anti-Jihad pieces.

"My friend said that it was his understanding that "about 90% of the references to Jihad in the Qur'an were peaceful references to self-discipline and self-improvement, and only a handful about 'anything else'".

"I told him it was closer to the opposite. Of course, he has never read the Qur'an himself.

"When I showed my "I Am A Gharkad Tree" painting, I quoted the Hadith about Muslims killing Jews in the last days.

"Several people actually physically recoiled—it is very shocking, especially if you have never heard it before."

Great job, Gravenimage. Well done. The lovely picture - which is not at all warlike - and the foreign word in a mysterious slogan piqued their interest...and then they got the shock treatment.

I don't think they'll be forget it anytime soon. They might want to forget, but the picture and the word will stick in their subconscious like a burr.

What were the other anti-jihad pieces, if I may ask? And how did people - including your host - react to those?

If you succeeded in waking up even one person - or beginning the waking up process - it was worth it.

"done and archived"

Glad to read this.

I see what you mean. There is, definitely, something pig-like about her.
But my immediate impression of her was a hate-filled potato sack.

How about meeting halfway for "hateful pig in a potato sack"? Do we have a deal?

Annie Oakley wrote:

I like it, Gravenimage! It sends a visually appealing, unambiguous message to the informed (including muslims) and it arouses the curiosity of the uninformed, thereby providing an opportunity to educate them when they ask questions.
...............

Thank you so much, Annie. I need to look into having stickers and t-shirts made up.

Hateful pig in a potato sack... I like it. Let's go with that.

And the American taxpayers will pay for her 'education', compliments of affirmative action.

Dumbledore's army wrote:

Great job, Gravenimage. Well done. The lovely picture - which is not at all warlike - and the foreign word in a mysterious slogan piqued their interest...and then they got the shock treatment.

I don't think they'll be forget it anytime soon. They might want to forget, but the picture and the word will stick in their subconscious like a burr.
.................

Thanks, DDA. I hope it may lead some of them to consider Islam a bit more deeply.

I hasten to add here that my friend *is not* anti-American, anti-Western or anti-Israel—or worse, in any way an apologist for the forces—include Jihad—which seek to destroy the West.

If he was, I would consider him beyond the pale. But rather, like many good-hearted liberals, he simply doesn't want to look too closely at true evil—or to even believe that it much exists in the world—since the Holocaust, at least.

More:

What were the other anti-jihad pieces, if I may ask? And how did people - including your host - react to those?
.................

Just a couple of my Heroes Against Jihad pieces—profiles of Wafa Sultan and Kurt Westergaard. A couple of people guests had heard about the MoToons, but only vaguely.

More:

If you succeeded in waking up even one person - or beginning the waking up process - it was worth it.
.................

I absolutely agree.

"Isn't that hate speech? Is anyone doing anything about it? Ought not her Wahhabi, pasty white derriere be dragged to court"

We need new leaders NorseCrusader. (that will be up to the voters)

Where are the attorneys who are willing to take such a case (even to the supreme court if need be) because what came out of her mouth (including what she posted) is NOT free speech. It is incitement to cause real harm (even death) to others.

She's young...and young people make mistakes. But when their mistakes cause harm to others, they need to be held accounbtable. I believe any (and all) universties allowing such talk should be held accountable also.

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