Muslim students attack Jewish students at University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee

Sorry, OT, but I'm watching the car bomb report live on CNN. They are actually mentioning Islamic terrorism! I am in such shock I can hardly contain myself!!

"some of the hotheads in our group..."

Hot-headed muslim...now there's a redundant phrase if I ever heard one.

Really, islam corrupts the soul so deeply it makes people completely unreasonable. And that's just the idiot reverts. Imagine how deep the corruption is in a person born and raised in the environment of islam.

When will the lefties of the world wake up and realize that we cannot "dialogue" with mohammadans?

Your children's lives depend on you waking up and realizing that not all cultures are equal and not all are compatible.

The "culture" and conditions that create "hot heads," misogynists, rapists, mutilators, supremacists and terrorists have one common denominator and it's not poverty. It's islam. It's not culture because Arab culture is different than African culture which is different than Pakistani culture, which is different from Serbian, Russian, American, Australian, Canadian culture which is different from Indian and Malaysian cultures yet all of these cultures have produced terrorists who declared they were killing in the service of allah. Not "misunderstood" or misinterpreted islam. It is simply islam.

Side query for the islamists: If your allah was so bloody clear and the kuran so bloody "clear" how is it possible to be misunderstood? Clear things are incapable of being misunderstood, misinterpreted, mis-identified, or mistaken for.

I live amongst mohammadans, poor and rich, educated and uneducated and I have lived among mohammadans from many "cultures"(countries if you will) and the same vile, sick, and twisted words come from all their mouths. The same vile, sick, and twisted words I have heard coming from middle-class, corn-fed, American "reverts."

Dialoguing with mohammadans is akin to dialoguing with nazis. You will never win them over. You will never get them to see that killing their daughters and raping women is wrong. Never.

I honestly don't care that they rape, beat, and murder their own women because their own women are as sick and twisted as the men(I was told by a fat, disgusting American revert that she would allow "the prophet" to marry her 12 year old daughter). I do care that you, with your cultural relativism allow them to perpetuate their "misunderstood" cultures/"religion"/political ideologies on MY fellow non-mohammadans.

So, lefties, please tell me which "culture" allows FGM? It occurs in Arab countries, Asian countries and African countries. Which culture allows the death penalty under sharia for women who have been raped and were not able to produce four male witnesses? Such murders occur in African, Asian, Arabic, North American, South American, European...oh hell, everywhere, under the blanket of believers in sharia. Which culture? Hello? I can't here you.

You have failed in your hug-a-mohammadan approach. They don't think like you. They move to the west and bring their "cultures" with them as evidenced by the "honour" murders of mohammadan females in American, England, Australia, Ireland, Germany, Canada, etc., etc. Again, honour murders don't bother me, but all their other "cultural practices" do bother me because they affect me and mine.

They may have been poor and oppressed in their own countries (by their own kind) but in the West they are not. Yet they bring those poor and oppressed attitudes and cultures with them. They don't change (because they DON'T want to). No matter how much you cow-tow to them. Because all of these unacceptable practices are NOT bred by poverty but by their "clear," "unchanged," "perfect," "valid for all time," ideology called islam.

Remember, you can put lipstick on a pig but it still thinks and acts like a pig.

/rant

a car bomb in times square ......imagine that!...who would a thunk it

As Moslems feel more emboldened, we're going to see more of these anti-Semitic attacks.

Wake up, America!

I hope that among the Jewish students more than one person used their mobile phone cameras to record what transpired, the moment things turned violent.

A few more observations.

From the article:

"The Muslim students and members of Students for a Democratic Society - which is under investigation by the university for its role in a March protest on campus that turned violent - said they wrote anti-Israel political statements in chalk on the plaza pavement Wednesday night, *but denied drawing the swastika* {my emphasis - dda}.

"We saw a lot of things the next day that weren't there the night before - the swastika, obscene remarks *that don't further anybody's interests* {my emphasis - dda}," said Masalkhi..." .

Does he mean, therefore, that obscene remarks that *did* further the Ummah's interests, would be OK?

Memo to the University administration, to Diana Asimov, and to Tom McGinty, the interim Dean of Students (I clicked on the link and read the rest of the article, where it mentions him), and especially to the campus police and any cop or lawyer from outside who may be involved by now: you MUST study up on "taqiyya" and "kitman".

If so be any member of the Jewish Student Association has googled their way in here, and is now reading this over my shoulder, I have something for you to read.

Here, at this link,

http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war

is an excellent article that appeared in the Middle East Quarterly in Winter 2010. It was written by Arabic-speaking Coptic-background scholar, Dr Raymond Ibrahim, author of 'The Al-Qaeda Reader', and it discusses taqiyya, the fine art of Muslim deception as practised for the furthering of the dominance of Islam and for getting the drop on the Infidels.

Read it. Read it again. And again. (Print it off and give a copy of it to the campus police to study, too.)

And ask yourself whether, after having read Dr Ibrahim's expose, you are still prepared to trust and believe even one word that has come out of Yamin Masalkhi's mouth or the mouths of any other members of the Muslim Student Association, as regards this attack which they carried out upon you, and as regards the identity of the person/s who drew the swastika.

"Yamin Masalkhi, who is president of the Muslim Student Association and participated in the protest, said that he apologized to the organizers, but that many members in his organization are of Palestinian descent and have strong feelings about Israel's treatment of the Palestinians."

Muslims must learn that in a civilized society, having "strong feelings" about an issue does not give one the right to riot and assault others.

OT, but we can all be grateful that the Times Square car bomb failed to detonate.

got to ask those muslim students where in the koran does it mention the word "Jerusalem"? muslim arabs have no ties to that land. infact they really need to go back to their own land of the sowdis!

"I think it says something about these groups that we could clash one day and the next day come together to share our feelings," she said.

That is so sweet. Just like Ben Franklin's wolves sitting down to dinner with the lamb to discuss what's for dinner.

Learn ABOUT muslim culture and rules of deceipt, or be annihilated by them.

Student conduct rules. Who gives a damn about some moron Dean and his stupid rules?

*** 33:21 ***

How about the Constitutional rules. How about the fact that the only thing Mao Zedong ever got right was that all justice comes from a barrel of a gun?

The Jews have systematically painted themselves into a corner here. Look at the geek they've got in Congress, yet in Milwaukee, and yes in Madison too, the similarity to 1936 Germany is striking. The DNA in the Dairy State is predominatley hunnish. Coincidence?

Perhaps Tommy Thompson should stay home and get elected governor again and load up on the Wisconsin National Guard. As in guard our nation. From Moslems. Maybe that would be the best thing.

And a small group of Jewish and Muslim students met on the plaza Friday to quietly discuss the conflict and how they might move beyond it.

How small is small? Someone thinks that Jews can discuss these conflicts with Mahoundians, and 'move beyond it'...How by magick? 'I'll put a spell on you'...then you will love me...'Lets just hold hands and hug, and everything will be OK'...The Jewish students in question may not realize just how much they are hated, or exactly why...But the Mahoundians do, so for them, 'moving beyond it' is not possible.
They know what Allah and Mahound had to say about Jews...even the tree's and rocks hate them...How can a pious Mahoundian 'move beyond' that?

This is the student newspaper. Yet, this story isn't reported. Why not?

http://www.uwmpost.com/

"We saw a lot of things the next day that weren't there the night before - the swastika, obscene remarks that don't further anybody's interests," said Masalkhi....

No moral objection is offered by Yamin Masalkhi, to that swastika, to those obscene remarks. No, what concerns this head of the Muslim students is only the image of Muslims, for ho he says, in tortured fashion, that "the swastika, obscene remarks that don't further anybody's interests" when what he means is "that don't further Muslim interests" because it looks bad.

As for the other remark, that "explanation" for the swastika, the obscene remarks, and the physical attack, that, he thinks, can somehow be justified by the fact "that many members in his organization are of Palestinian descent and have strong feelings about Israel's treatment of the Palestinians."

The local Arabs who, after the Six-Day War, were deliberately renamed the "Palestinian people" in order that the endless Jihad against the Infidel nation-state of Israel might, for propanda purposes, be disguised as something else, a "national liberation" movement (that was once a fashionable phrase, and the Arabs were quick to use it) or "a nationalist struggle"impliedly between "two tiny peoples, each struggling for a home -- and not the vast Arab people, with 22 states, the most fantastic unmerited wealth in the world (some thirteen trillion dollars in oil revenues since 1973 alone), attempting to snuff out the young life, in whatever way they can, that of the tiny state, existing on less than 1/1000th of the land area of those 22 Arab states, where no non-Arab Muslims(Berbers, Kurds, black Africans) and no non-Muslims (Copts, Chaldeans, Maronites, Greek Orthodox, etc.) have anything like full legal and social equality, much less autonomy or -- don't be silly -- independence, and indeed, often have suffered murderous attacked by those Muslim Arabs -- see what happened to the Kurds in Iraq from an Arab army, see what happens to the Chaldeans and Assyrians from Muslim Arabs, see what happens to the Berbers when they demand an end to cultural and linguistic imperialism, see what happens to the black African Christians and the black African (non-Arab) Muslims of Darfur.

No, for Muslim Arabs, all of North Africa and all of the Middle East belongs to them, and not one of the many non-Arab and non-Muslim peoples who peopled that area before the Arabs arrived and Islam (and forced arabization) was imposed, have any rights at all. Though in the end, all the world belongs to Allah and the "best of peoples," the Believers, on the To-Do List of Muslims some places take a higher priority, and the tiny state of Israel, whose existence is an offense against all of nature and all of humanity, in the view of so many Arabs and Muslims, will never be free of attempts to wage Jihad.

But if the Israelis keep their heads, recognize this, and instead of making further idiotic and dangerous concessions, make sure that the only peace-keeper that works -- Deterrence -- remains. It worked during the Cold War. And allow the Arab rulers to be able to invoke "Darura" (which google) or Necessity, in order not to engage in open warfare.

The propaganda and diplomatic and economic war that the Arabs now wage, all over the world, has no end, but the war they are also waging against the legal and political institutions and the social arrangements of the entire non-Muslim world, the attacks and murders of non-Muslims within the lands of Dar al-Islam, are no longer being ignored, and non-Muslims are beginning, despite the efforts of their governments to avoid the matter, to suppress the matter, to pretend the matter of Islam has no bearing on Muslim acts and attitudes over the past 1350 years, to acquire a knowledge of the texts, tenets, attitudes, and atmospherics of Islam. And now that the peoples of Western Europe feel imperilled and, a little late, are starting to fight back, to refuse to yield, the understanding of what Israel faces and has faced, will also spread and deepen.

The question is: will those who sentimentally tell us they "support Israel" actually support it by beginning to study, and understand, and dissemiinating to others that understanding, of how the war against Israel, despite the camouflage, remains what it always was: a local Jihad, which began before the oil trillions and the Muslim immigrant miliions allowed them to have bigger and more aggressive dreams, for it remains a duty of Muslims, not tangential but central, to engage directly or directly in Jihad.

And Jihad should not be thought in terms only of terrorism. For the most effective instruments of Jihad are not terrorism but, in the main theatre of war, which is not Iraq nor Afghanistan nor Pakistan (the outcomes there are trivial and the current American goals exactly the wrong ones) but Western Europe, where the Money Weapon, campaigns of Daw'a targetted at the psychically and economically marginal, propaganda (including that provided by armies of Western hirelings), and demographic conquest are the instruments of Jihad now having their effect. And being opposed, pian piano, with gathering effect.

"We didn't go there intending to cause trouble, we just wanted to have a conversation"

My ass!

I'm so sick of reading these type of stories where the media talks of clashes between groups whenever the Muslims are the aggressors, perpetrators and instigators. And the Muslims are upset over the treatment of the Palestinians which is supposed to make their rage seem at least somewhat excusable.

If the Muslims had been victims, the lead paragraph would have talked of anti-Muslim bigotry and hate crimes investigations.

And, of course, clueless Jewish students were just thrilled that they could talk things out the day after. While the Muslims are fighting a war to destroy them, the Jewish students think all this can be resolved by understanding the other side, dialogue and perhaps an interfaith lunch. Soon Jewish leaders will be so excited by their burgeoning good relations with the MSA that they won't want to sponsor any speakers that might offend Muslim sensibilities and will even vouch for the MSA when other activities of that group raise suspicions.

Like their hero Obama, most liberal Jews think that dialogue and interfaith relations are the cure to all that ills two sides and the essence of "conflict resolution." The Muslims understand that dialogue is a means to an end. They are talking nicely with the Jews because they know that they went too far yesterday, and what better way to sweep their aggressive behavior under the rug than to win over the "hearts and minds" of Jews who can then tell the authorities that the groups worked out their differences on their own and the Jews don't want to press charges. As Ralph Peters put it, our enemies are playing chess and we're playing checkers.

"OK, folks, break it up, nothing to see or report here. Just more muslim 'hotheads' with 'strong feelings,' harrassing a peaceful event with hate, intimidation and violence.
Just move along now..."

"We saw a lot of things the next day that weren't there the night before - the swastika, obscene remarks that don't further anybody's interests," said Masalkhi....

Right, and he spent the whole time monitoring the sidewalk? Himmler did it, right? LIAR!

It occurs to me that if we had no "muslim students" here that there'd be no need for muslim student associations. Just a thought...

To think this sort of thing can happen in America.

Deport these pseudo Nazis back to the Arabia Pennisula.

The MSAWEST (formerly the University of Southern California MSA) provides translations of the Qur'an by Yousafali, Pickthal, and Shakir. It also includes various hadith collections.
http://www.msawest.net/islam/

Their 'Misconceptions About Islam' section is both noteworthy and useful.
http://www.msawest.net/islam/notislam/misconceptions.html

Here's one those misconceptions:

"In this article, we will try to clear up many of the misconceptions that are prevalent about Islam. Before jumping into the list of misconceptions directly, it is important to give a little interesting background about the source of Islam.

Islam is the name of a way of life which the Creator wants us to follow. We avoid the word religion because in many non-Islamic societies, there is a separation of "religion and state." This separation is not recognized at all in Islam: the Creator is very much concerned with all that we do, including the political, social, economic, and other aspects of our society. Hence, Islam is a complete way of life."

It is that particular aspect of Islam that makes it incompatible with the United States Constitution, and no amount of tap dancing by the American Muslim community can change that reality.

Islam, a written ideology, has no legitimate place in America and every Muslim in this country is living a lie.

"Dialoguing with mohammadans is akin to dialoguing with nazis. You will never win them over. You will never get them to see that killing their daughters and raping women is wrong. Never."

Actually I think the German Nazis for the most part were actually intelligent rational people caught up in a severe case of Nationalism. After WWII, almost all of them repudiated the anti-semetic rhetoric and got on with rebuilding their country.

In short I fully believe that Muslims make Nazis look like Mother Theresa in comparison.

A good article on the psychological characteristics that distinguish Muslims from Westerners, by the Dane Nicolai Sennels (with a brief introduction by Nancy Kobrin) can be found here:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/63122/sec_id/63122

"The event erupted into shouting and then violence after members of the Muslim Student Association confronted the Jewish students over Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, and a Jewish student attempted to throw a Palestinian flag in the trash."

OK, the real story is that Jewish students had an event celebrating Israel Independence Day. It was not anti anyone. The Muslims attacked the Jewish students. Period. This article, though, talks of "Israel's treatment of the Palestinians" (that should have had quotes around it in the original article) and a Jewish student's throwing out the Palestinian flag -- to establish moral equivalence. Later we learn that the flag had been placed atop the Jewish students' property in order to disrupt their celebration.

The article has the usual biased zingers meant to deflect the truth. I didn't read any mention of Palestinian rockets against Israeli civilian centers or Muslim terrorism. Some-how it's just about some Jews and Arabs fighting again. When will we ever get a truthful report. Something like:

MUSLIM STUDENTS ATTACK JEWISH CELEBRATION

Because that IS what happened.

Diana Azimov is still very young and naive, not realizing that Yamin is doing damage control after the fact.

The Muslim Students Association is rotten to the core and fully supports the jihad agenda.

Interesting article, Hugh. Thanks.

Here's my response to the comment of one MJL. For some reason, I don't think it registered in that web-site's comments section...

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MJL suffers the affliction of so many others, trying to exonerate the distinctly theological nature of the pathologies that afflict the Muslim world. For example, he/she tries to draw a distinction between the Muslim cultural ethos in southeast Asia with that of the Arab world. What he/she fails to recognize is that whatever distinctions that once existed are quickly disappearing; so-called "moderate" Indonesia has seen the killing of thousands of Christians over the last decade...and the persecution of thousands of others, all at the hands of the Muslim mob.

Another false distinction is the laid-back Islam of Tunisia that MJL contrasts with the fanaticism of other countries in the region. What he/she fails to mention is that this is the direct and exclusive result of GOVERNMENT POLICY. The President of Tunisia is a committed secularist, and he has imposed his vision on his country via authoritarian methods. Tunisia would no doubt be a very different country were it not for the vision of a single man.

As for MJL's contention that social pathologies exist in every culture, this is obviously true. In the West for example, sexual freedom has resulted in a high incidence of teen pregnancies and the spread of venereal disease. While we refuse to alter our over-all culture of freedom, we at least acknowledge these pathologies as unwanted side-effects OF freedom, and institute educational and health programs to mitigate them.

Conversely, in the Muslim world, many of the most gruesome social pathologies such as lapidation, amputation, honor killing, child marriage, the murder of apostates, and female genital mutilation (among others), all have their origins in Islamic theology, and therefore are not recognized as social pathologies. Therefore, there is no real impetus to remedy them.

People like MJL are retarding the struggle against Islamic supremacism and intolerance by obfuscating the facts. It is the theological tenets of Islam itself, not some ancillary cause, that perpetuates the pathologies that afflict Muslim (and now Western) societies. This reality necessitates a very specific strategy for dealing with the problem, one that attempts to marginalize Islam in the lives of Muslims. It is a strategy that has yet to be even considered, much less implemented.

If they don't crack down on the Muslims attempting to terrorize the Jewish students who were simply celebrating Israel Independence Day, with swastikas, obscenities, the covering of their exhibit with a "Palestinian" flag, and then physical attacks -- later deplored by the head of the Muslim Students Association because "it serves no one's advantage" (meaning, let's pretend to be embarrassed, let's pretend to distance ourselves from this, in order not to do damage to the "peaceful" image of Islam).

As for Diana Azimov, her youth and naivete mentioned above may also reflect some fear, fear if she spoke as she should speak, about the Stormtrooper tactics on the campus, Stormtrooper tactics not different from those used by the Brownshirts, circa 1933-1937, in Nazi Germany. And Milwaukee's leaders should do something, should come down very hard (starting with expelling from the state university all those who participated in the attacks, and these people can be discovered), lest more such attacks occur, as they have occurred on campuses in San Francisco and Montreal and elsewhere, and lest their own city become known for such attacks and for a pusillanimous response of those in authority, so that it becomes known for "the fear that made Milwaukee famous." And not only because it would hurt "the image" of the city, but because it would be morally intolerable not to seek out and punish all those involved. At the very least, they should not be supported in their subsidized education at the University of Wisconsin. They'll find it so much better at Bir Zeit.

Let's not have a war of self-defense fought so faintly. Not, that is, guerre toutes azimovs, but guerre tous azimuts.

"The Muslim students and members of Students for a Democratic Society..."

The SDS, e.g., here and here? I thought that disease had been eradicated, but apparently there is a resurgence of the infection on campus. Shades of 1960 and Tom Haydn (aka Mr. Jane Fonda, she of manning_an_antiaircraft_gun_in_Hanoi fame)! The Muslim Students Association and the Students for a Democratic Society - a logical match-up if there ever was one, in terms of sharing a common set of delusions, but the Muslim/"Palestinian" taqiyya artists are actually playing the SDS for a bunch suckers. The SDS would surely suffer the same fate as the Communists did in Iran should the Islam gain any kind of foothold in the U.S.

Once again I would like to thank Ted Kennedy and his ilk in the Democrat Party for the liberal immigration policies that have allowed the filth of ISLAM to enter this once great country in such large numbers. There is nothing like the politics of divisiveness - poor against rich, white against black, young against old, Muslim against everyone else, etc. to undermine the future of a nation and ensure your political power.

Cornelius --

Your comment has now been posted.
You, and others, may want to see a horrifying video, of Garrett Hughes, a British politician, in the Liberal Democratic Party, attempting to ingratiate himself with a Muslim audience in every possible way, short of becoming a Muslim right there on stage:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/27358

Demographic conquest does not require a majority to effectiveloy dictate things. Long before that percentage is reached, a determined, aggressive, unified group of True Believers can push pusillanimous politicians and make them dance to their tune.

Anyone who does not believe this should look carefully at the video of Garrett Hughes to which a link is given in this comment.

And do send that link to others who could profit from seeing the spectacle.

Hugh,

"Horrifying" was a very apt description of the speech. Makes me fear for Britain more than ever.

Reminded me a bit of a pretentious white Liberal pandering to a black audience at an NAACP gathering. I have black musician friends who tell me they can't stand that type of condescension.

As George stated, "It occurs to me that if we had no "muslim students" here that there'd be no need for muslim student associations. Just a thought..."

Have been working with immigration organizations for years who are against amnesty, to help them realize the threat of immigration from muslim countries. In my opinion they take no notice of the threat of islam, and view undocumented aliens as a greater threat. Sure they may be a great threat, but muslim immigration is a far greater one.

Students on the nations campuses should have student associations, against muslim student organizations. Course Saudi financing of their student organizations goes to their advantage. The larger cause of these events is our government bending over to assist muslims in all their causes and beliefs. Especially since our goverment allows these misfits to immigrate to our country in the first place.

-Obama is a closet muslim.
Just watch and listen.-

Here, for the attention of Diana Asimov and the Jewish Students' Association, is a story from Australia, from the 1950s, as related in Mark Raphael Baker's "The Fiftieth Gate".

Baker is the historian son of two Shoah survivors who settled in Australia, and the book is his account of his parents' experiences before and during the Shoah, and of the life they built afterward.

"one Sunday afternoon in Melbourne. I was a child at the time, and heard my parents arguing in the kitchen with their friends.

"I could only pick up snippets of the Yiddish conversation - something about a neo-Nazi rally; how could it happen here? In Australia? After the war?

"One survivor bared his arm. He pointed at his numbered tattoo, shouting, 'Never again'.

"So they piled into a car, leaving me at home with my mother who pretended they had gone off to Mendel's house to play cards.

"My father returned in the evening, his hair dishevelled.

"He was carrying a black umbrella which he triumphantly waved in the air.
"Bastards', he said, 'Hitler bastards.'

"My mother tried to calm his nerves, while he continued to tell his heroic story.

'*We tore off his swastika and pushed the antisemite into the Yarra River with our umbrellas'* {my emphasis - dda}.

"He turned on the television, anxious to hear if the evening news had reported this act of Jewish resistance, organised from the suburbs of Melbourne."

[from 'The Fiftieth Gate' [1997] chapter 14, pp. 85-86 of the paperback edition).

"We [a bunch of Aussie Jews who were not inclined to meekly tolerate Evil] tore off his swastika and pushed the antisemite into the Yarra River with our umbrellas".

That is, to be truthful, the only kind of Dialogue that works on certain kinds of evil people - such as neonazi Jew-haters, and jihad-minded Jew-hating Muslims.

muslims are always instigating violence -- violence that is allah approved, as exampled by their evil prophet muhammad and his followers. mo was nothing more than a common criminal, so are those that lie, steel, rape and murder as he did.

How are there so MANY Palestinian students at that school when we all know that Palestine is an enclosed prison that no one can escape from to have a better life and no food or supplies can enter into either? How did they get out?

I mean, haven't we heard it described as a prison from which there is no escape? No hope? And yet, here they are going to all these schools!

This Muslim Student Assoc. president is doing as trained, deny promoting violence, deny support for violence, etc. all while being at the head. I would imagine of course he was right there all along screaming at his primeval savage barbaric brother, "Get down off that wall!" I would then probably be imagining next that the campus police were actually trying to coral these terrorist-loving Moslems to keep them from beating up the students celebrating our staunchest ally, Israel's independence day.

I sincerely hope that the intellectually brilliant Jewish students don't believe that they will only have to rely on their brains from here on in.