Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America forbids Muslims to aid American troops in Afghanistan and Iraq

Amen!!! This would be a good start and then we worry about Islamic Trojan horse in our country.

you said "We are in Iraq and Afganistan at the request of the governments and working with those governments. We are spending billions rebuilding and maintaining infrastructure. Our military doctors are treating everyone"

You really believe that? Why are you deluding yourself? Both governments were the results of our policies. Are they what the people really want? If left to their own device these islamonuts would have an Iran like government for Iraq and a Taliban dominated government for Afghanistan. Once an Islamic hellhole, always an Islamic hellhole unless a commie type or a strong authoritarian type government is installed. As for us building all those projects at the cost of billions, they will neither be appreciated nor will we generate good will from them. It’s a total waste of money.

Face it we won the war, we got rid of saddam and we drove the Taliban from office. We have no business staying there. We are just sitting ducks. We don't have the stomach to take on the real evil doers of Porkiestan. Let’s get out of these two hell holes.

"Why shouldn't they be thrown out and sent back to all those Islamic hell holes from where they came here!!!"

They should be. End of story. Good Riddance, Mohammedans.

According to Loonwatch...

You just lost your credibility...all of it...Loon watch is for loons and lunar-tics...You need to run your virus scanner every time you visit...I bet your puter is loaded with loon bugs...

Why are you paying attention to evil "loonwatch?" Are you a Loon?

The anonymous sissies over at loonwatch will never get Spencer to bite. They can publicly declare themselves or, to you and the rest of your brethren Mohammedan loonwatch trolls, begone from this forum.

I can certainly understand why loonwatch won't go public. no one there wants to reveal who is actually funding that site, because we all know, the more light that shines on Islam and the Muslims who openly advocate it, the uglier it and them look to all non-muslims.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Raqnu.

"...to you and the rest of your brethren Mohammedan loonwatch trolls, begone from this forum."

Exactly. Begone, Loonie Mohammedan, "Raqnu."

"Okay, I agree loonwatch is pretty bad, they are practicing taqqiyah,(sic) but since when was reading your enemy a sin, I thought it was dilligence? (sic)

"Loonwatch" is too pathetic to be an "enemy." Or, hadn't you noticed? Who cares what they say? They're pathetic imbeciles. Why are you paying attention to pathetic imbeciles?

Yes, Jaladhi, you are absolutely right, these are Americans and they behave treacherously and they commit sedition.

Not for an uprising in America, but in a war-situation abroad, where American and other democratic forces are indeed executing the policy of democratically chosen governments and with the request or consent of governments in both Iraq and Afghanistan, that also were chosen democratically. However imperfect that system is and works, it is so far the best we got, or so we feel anyway, in a vast majority in Democratic countries.

Moreover the democratic armies overthrew heinous regimes and by that act must by now have saved many potential victims of them, had they stayed in power. They are in contrast to the armies of those regimes as humane as possible and do help and protect very valuable projects, like schooling children, including girls.

I am glad what AMJA treacherously did was monitored and broadcasted by JW. This sort of attitudes and behavior of Muslims can and should be used to clarify what Islam, or part of it, is and what Muslims are consciously and subconsciously choosing for and against. And for what, with increasing volume they should be held accountable for, first and foremost in the democratic countries where they now live in big numbers. And yes, this will give justified reason to halt Islamic immigration, indeed discriminating on grounds of religion for immigration. Only stated as discriminating on grounds of being anti-democratic and pro-theocratic. And in view of increasing danger it should be enough if a person admits adherence to the totalitarian ideology of Islam to decide against him/ her. Or well-grounded suspicion thereof.

Less and less Muslims can have it both ways; A. Pretending that Muslims are very divers en enormously divided. So not united and not first and foremost loyal to a well-identified religio-political group; Islam.

So not for one iota responsible for what the mega-group the Muslims, the Ummah, or parts of it, does. And so not feeling responsible, then responding indignant upon all sorts of criticism against parts of Islam, Muslims. Against justified and logical defense of Democracy and religious minorities, and women's rights even.

But now Muslims seem to have also attitude B. This AMJA-group claims it knows Islam and can tell the world what it is and what is not. And what Muslims are expected to do and what they are expected to refrain from. And AMJA has the authority to issue fatwa's, guidelines for all Muslims. This is admittance of unity and adherence and loyalty to Islam as a group as opposed to being divers and divided.

We must more and more deny Muslims this kind of display of unity without challenging their stance of being divers and divided, hence not accountable for their co-religionists.

If Muslims behave like AMJA I say they do represent, or try to, of a united big part of Muslims. They take responsibility to claim to know what Islam is or is not.

Let ever more Muslims be asked what they choose; following these Islamic leaders or not. If they do, and these leaders behave so clearly treacherous, let the Muslims who admit following them be seen as accomplices, loyal to an enemy and united against our government and laws, to an extent we can determine when we monitor and analyse them.

And with the kind of knowledge of Islam and division versus unity of Muslims we now have we already can say that Muslims have given us no reason to trust them at all. And therefore in the interest of safety should first be found guilty of aiding and abetting a clearly identified enemy. With the proviso that Muslims can more and more clearly swear and provide proof for loyalty to democratic governments, laws, values and interest. To assure fair treatment and to reassure the many concerned Muslim-defenders.

All this reasoning is necessary not for those in the know but to convince or confound all those so-called fair-minded, independent, PCMC-people in the Democratic countries.

"...but the loons of loonwatch are making such a big deal about it to try and get Robert for anything."

Who cares? They're NOTHING. Get it? Pay no attention to the loons! Stop wasting your time! They're nutjobs.

Quran is encrypted in your moniker, mohammedan ...

We get it, you're a loon we should watch.

Good one, champ! You really exposed "Raqnu," i.e "Quran."

Brava!

Raqnu is a distortion of Quran. I thought that wasn't allowed.

LOL

Thanks, Kim :)

Yeah whatta clever mohammedan, eh? Appears to be one of allah's finest and best, lol ...

You're the clever one.

Good one! ...especially since the quran is a distortion of the truth.

Thank you, Mike ...I stand corrected :)

Well, champ, all of the letters in "Raqnu" are the same as in "Quran," - so I still think you've got a great point.

So glad you made it outta there Annie, and Thanks..You done did your best..And I hope ya got around to picking up your signature special..If I had the bucks I'd get it for you myself..You take care of yourself ya hear?

This was posted on TROP this week....

The 1991 Bangladesh Cyclone
Remember when the US military saved 200,000 Muslim lives from the wrath of Allah? Neither do your America-bashing Muslim friends. . . so here's a reminder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Bangladesh_cyclone

Those are the ones that are now burning US and Israeli flags and chanting, "death to Israel" and "down with U.S."

Mike Ryan,
The link you gave to Raqnu is actually a link to Raçnu. Take a look at the text you linked to.

The computer reads Raçnu as Raqnu, because in an English search (I guess) it confuses ç with q.

Is the Spirit of Justice in the Zend Avesta sometimes spelled Raçnu and other times spelled Raqnu?

The two words would seem to be pronounced differently, too. The ç (c-cedilla) is usually a soft c, as in français, no?

I googled Raqnu, and it does in some contexts seem to mean a spirit being of some sort in some Wizards and Dragons type games, but I'm not sure.

I'm not sure that it was wrong to say that Raqnu was an encripted form of the Qur'an.

No, you have serious problems. Oh, and no, we don't see anything "positive" in "loonwatch" or hey - in Islam.

"I'm not sure that it was wrong to say that Raqnu was an encripted form of the Qur'an. - traeh, above

Right-O. And never trust a person who actually visits "loonwatch."

As awake said in an earlier post: "The anonymous sissies over at loonwatch will never get Spencer to bite. They can publicly declare themselves or, to you and the rest of your brethren Mohammedan loonwatch trolls, begone from this forum."

See ya, "Quran," wouldn't want to be ya. Troll.

See how easy it is to find the American government spending billions to take care and feed these Islamic reptiles, these crocodiles. Yes, I am talking about both the lib and con administrations. But look how they find it almost impossible to feed their own. From cutting school lunch programs to letting the upkeep of schools go to hell. To dilapidated American cities. Meanwhile the American treasury is wide open for the rest of the world, as Hillary Claus thrown money around wherever she goes as it was going out of style. Damn shame I say.

I think Enraged is correct we do desperately need a third party.

"Okay, I agree loonwatch is pretty bad, they are practicing taqqiyah, but since when was reading your enemy a sin, I thought it was dilligence?"

Pretty bad? You call "your enemy" pretty bad? Methinks taqiyya is also being practiced outside of the loony bin watch by the likes of yourself, Raqnu. Either that, or you are simply intellectually and logically stunted (like most Mohammedans). Memo to you...neither answer reflects well of yourself.

And to those who are trying to correct Champ...cease and desist. Not only is Champ 100% correct in deciphering the anagram in "raqnu" , but the lesson learned here is to never reinforce the intangible concept that a Mohammedan, a mental slave by trade, can ever be more clever than us well-schooled Kuffar.

Eat shit Raqnu, and give a serving to "Danios" and the rest of the Muslim cowards over at the loony bin. Have "Danios" declare himself or bugger off.

Sorry, Quran, but YOU are the "fanatic."

As awake said above - "Eat shit Raqnu, and give a serving to "Danios" and the rest of the Muslim cowards over at the loony bin. Have "Danios" declare himself or bugger off."

Uh Huh. So right.

Thank you, Awake! :)

"I Asked a serious question"

And Robert addressed your query, so bu-bye ...

I see you point Desidude, but I would settle for something about QuranQuestioned. Raqnu should not only question Robert's writings but also question severely the writings in the Quran. With the same zeal and attempts at fault-finding and logic! With the same standards. He should reason that Allah should not be afraid of that.

"Sorry, Quran, but YOU are the "fanatic."

True, Kim, he's the fanatic; only a loon and a fanatic for filthy lies would offer loonwatch to this forum and then expect to be taken seriously. What a maroon, eh,? Yeah his name is "Quran" alright, that's my story and I'm stickin' to it ...

"With the same zeal and attempts at fault-finding and logic! With the same standards."

Right! ...great point, Densci ..yeah that should keep him verrrrry busy.

oops, I mean "Demsci" ...

"True, Kim, he's the fanatic; only a loon and a fanatic for filthy lies would offer loonwatch to this forum and then expect to be taken seriously...Yeah his name is "Quran" alright, that's my story and I'm stickin' to it..."

I thought you were too quick to accept that "mike ryan" character's "correction" of your figuring out that "Raqnu" was really "Quran." You were right, and thanks to traeh for doing that research!

Annie

someone in the UK has woken up and has reached much the same policy decision - re 'feeding mohammedans' - as you have.

A surprising sort of person: he runs a popular gay bar in London. But he is, it seems, a patriotic Englishman who has watched the mounting death toll among British troops with dismay, and has also observed with disquiet the progress of Sharia Creep in his neighbourhood.

Here is the report, as reproduced and flagged at New English Review:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/28249

'One of London's leading gay club owners sparked controversy today after posting an online rant about British Muslims, PinkPaper.com can exclusively report.



'The entrepreneur – who was responding on Facebook to a story on the Evening Standard site entitled "Protestors Fight Police in Clashes Outside Mosque" – **vowed to boycott Muslim-owned businesses in response to recent unrest in East London**.

"He also tried to justify his decision by reference to the death toll of British troops in Afghanistan, which has this month risen above 300.



'PinkPaper.com has been trying to contact Mark Ames of club XXL in London to ask how he justified his remarks.



'Ames - or someone posing as him - wrote:

"**From today I will be boycotting any shops, petrol stations restaurants or businesses I know are owned by Muslims** {my emphasis - dda}

"this also includes holidays to muslim [sic] countries {nota bene - many gay guys from Western countries have been wont to go to places like Morocco; but Mr Ames, it seems, has realized that we are AT WAR and the pursuit of personal pleasure in Enemy Territory, to the financial benefit of said Enemy, is just not. on. any more - dda}.

"today see [sic] our death toll up to 300,

"so why the hell are we not just flying this scum back out to there beloved states {i.e. to their Islamic countries - dda} and pull out and let them fight out there [sic] own issues!"



HEAR, HEAR.

This is welcomed news from the gay front. I hope this is not just some idle talk. If enough gays come forth to lead the anti dhimmitude crowd, I may have to change my mind about most gays being cowards and dhimmis.

"...rename yourself as Raqnu Ckssu. following your rules thats, Quran Sucks."

That's hilarious! :-D

If you haven't already, check out the fatwa site. The "American" jurists are in fact the cream of the crop from Saudi, Jordan, Syria, etc.

The fatwa has been taken down and replaced by one in much more general language.

The fatwa as re-written:
http://www.amjaonline.com/en_f_details.php?fid=3062

You're right, Kim, and thank you -- I was too quick to agree with mike, who's only reward in all of this was a 'thank you' from that slimeball; and Traeh's research was spot on! ...and very interesting, too. And how did he make that soft c? Wish I were more computer savvy ..

who's or whose? ...never mind, lol ...

Please remove the word Lol. It is an Urdu word means the tool of a man. This is the only language all muslims know.To swear and insult those who oppose them . They cannot negotiate with others in good faith. magdi