Canada: Honor killing victim Aqsa Parvez's father and brother sentenced to life of prison dawah

Finally, justice for Aqsa. Or, at least, acknowledgment.

Wonder how the morons at her school who ignored her fears and pleas for help are feeling now.

Most of them are probably still passing it off as "a domestic issue", "mental illness", or a multiculturalism malfunction.

So deserved. But, the death penalty would be real justice. I don't believe PC Canada has that justice, however.

"In September 2007, Aqsa told a counsellor at Applewood Heights Secondary School in Mississauga "that she was afraid her father wanted to kill her."

Amina and Sarah Said had run away from home more than once making the same claim about their Muslim father....they too, are graveyard dead....

It is clear to see how controlling a Muslim parent can be...just wait until you see a Muslim in control of your life....

Just go talk to some Egyptian Copts or Pakistani Christians...they know the drill....

Re: Honor killing in Canada: Aqsa Parvez was murdered for refusing to wear the Islamic hijab

Maybe Aqsa Parvez's father and brother should be sentenced to death for not weraring the Islamic hijab.

Looking at this from a cost analysis standpoint, will it cost Canadanian taxpayers more or less to incarcerate these two family men for their lifetimes, as opposed to what it would've cost to pay the two the welfare benefits they were no doubt going to receive over their lifetimes.

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Fun fact: in Minnesota it's a common practice for a Moslem Man, a strong successful Moslem Man, to put wives 2 through 4, his "mosque wives", who the Welfare suppopsedly doesn't know about, on AFDC for having children out of wedlock. This in addition to free healthcare, free rent, subsidized SBA loans to buy the taxicabs, and so on.

The highly paid Judeo-Christian gubmint workers at the Welfare just look away, pious, self-satisfied, pretending not to notice.

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I live in a Moslem hotbed, and every day I see Moslems in fine cars, Lexus sedans, Escalades, Chrysler Voyager minivans, the works, with the strong successsful Moslem Man at the wheel, his 4 women in their hijabs, the family no doubt chatting idly about how awful America is, and how much it could be improved by Islam.

But, with no highly productive Infidel Taxpayers, who'd pay for the gubmint checks they get every month?

And we are considered Muhamophobes because we do not want this barbarism for our loved ones and ourselves. We would be Muhamomorons if we did not object to this mental illness masquerading as a religion.
Muhammadenism should be labelled by the psychiatric community and treated by removing all Muhammaden source materials, Muhmmaden influences and sharp objects along with indefinite isolation.
Canada should also issue a strong warning to all Sharia compliant Muhammadens in Canada; planning to visit or those who immigrate as Jihad that stiffer sentences (including the hard labor suggested by Wellington) will be issued for future violations of humanity.

"In September 2007, Aqsa told a counsellor at Applewood Heights Secondary School in Mississauga "that she was afraid her father wanted to kill her."

What a coincidence! Isn't that exactly what a young lady named Rifqa Bary said? You'd almost think there's a connection there; some common thread. Oh, whatever could it be?

And it must be coincidence, too, that the victims are ALWAYS girls and young women.
Perhaps the mohammadans should honor-kill a few BOYS and YOUNG MEN, you know, to prove how egalitarian they are. Then they could proudly advertise themselves as, "EQUAL OPPORTUNITY BARBARIANS!

Canada gives them life, but I hope the prison system gives them a toilet plunger, and PLO assignment...
Permanent Latrine Orderly...Thank you Gomer Pyle...
After sixty years or so of industrial strength prison toilet plunging, they will learn the true meaning of 'honor'...

Her father and her brother murdered her because, among other things, she refused to wear the hijab.

Not the burqa or niqab.

The hijab, the headscarf.

The badge of female membership of the Ummah, marauding Mohammedan Mob, which also designates the wearer's status as the absolute property of some Mohammedan Male; the Slave Rag, with death the penalty for any attempt to escape. And Aqsa took off her Slave Rag, she was trying to escape; and she was killed to punish her for her insubordination, her rebellion, her feared future apostasy.

Burqa bans aren't going far enough. Let's just ban **every** variety of the Mohammedan female Slave Rag.

Whenever we see a Mohammedan teenage girl or even adult woman in the west, in a shirt and skirt or jeans, but with her head wrapped up in the hijab...how do we know, how can we know, that she may not be another Aqsa Parvez, wearing it under compulsion? Under threat of a beating, or...under threat of **death**, if she should dare to rip the ugly thing off and walk about with her hair uncovered as the free non-Muslim women do?

Some Mohammedan females, of course, **do** wear it willingly, and in so doing, they fly the flag of Jihad, implicitly threatening every free unveiled infidel woman that they meet; looking down their noses at us.

Ban the public wearing of **all** forms of the Mohammedan female Slave Rag - as being tantamount to the KKK robe and hood, or the SS deathshead badge - and one does two things at once: one provides a measure of protection and encouragement for the Aqsa Parvez potential defectors; and one challenges, and thus forces out into the open, the aggressive supremacism of those Mohammedan she-devils who love their enslavement and long to see every woman in the world miserably enslaved to murderous Mohammedan males, just like they themselves already are.

"Muhammad tried … to salvage the relationship with his daughter — concessions that would not have been made if this was a traditional killing for honour. [He made] many attempts to speak to school officials. Twice she ran away and twice he went to the police for help to help look for her. These are things that are not necessarily consistent with a father seeking to avenge pride for his family," Neuberger said.

I believe Jeffery Dahmer also used the police to help retrieve one of his victims. (Still bristling at the use of the word "traditional" in this article, too.)

Finally, a Cdn. judge with some balls (well at least more so than what you find in Europe these days). FYI Here is the Cdn. Press Article from today on the sentencing of the two. I think this sentence will likely be appealed and they will get early parole after 10 years. After a decade in Canada, they don't agree with our social customs (movies, friends, parties), Cdn. Laws, probably don't like our food and most definitely don't like our fashion (clothes) so why are they living here?

Ontario judge decries 'twisted' mindset in so-called honour killing of teen girl
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By Allison Jones, The Canadian Press

Muhammad Shan Parvez, left, Shasma Parvez, centre, and mother of Aqsa Parvez, Anwar Jan, right, leave the Brampton court house after receiving the verdict in the 2007 killing of Aqsa Parvez in Brampton Ont., on Wednesday, June 16, 2010. The "twisted" mindset that led two men to believe killing their headstrong 16-year-old daughter and sister would spare the family embarrassment is "abhorrent," a judge said Wednesday. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Nathan Denette
BRAMPTON, Ont. - The twisted mindset that led a headstrong 16-year-old girl's father and brother to kill her in the belief it would spare the family embarrassment is abhorrent, a judge said Wednesday.

Muhammad, 60, and Waqas Parvez, 29, were both sentenced to at least 18 years in prison after pleading guilty to the second-degree murder of Aqsa Parvez in a so-called honour killing.

In the weeks leading up to the 2007 killing Aqsa had clashed with her family — originally from Pakistan — over her desire to shed the hijab, wear western clothing and have the same freedoms as her friends.

The two Parvez men believed they could keep the family's pride intact by killing Aqsa, rather than letting her have a part-time job and go to the movies with friends, according to facts agreed to in court after the men pleaded guilty Tuesday.

Superior Court Justice Bruce Durno called it "profoundly disturbing" that young Aqsa, facing the struggles of a modern teen's life amid strict family values, could be murdered by the very people who were supposed to protect her.

The killing was all for the purpose of avoiding "what they perceived as the community embarrassment of not being able to control a young woman they believed was rebellious," Durno said in passing sentence Wednesday.

"That twisted, chilling and repugnant mindset could imply that the family pride could at least be kept intact or perhaps even enhanced by having two grown men overpower and kill a vulnerable teenager."

A second-degree murder conviction carries an automatic life sentence and the judge has discretion to set parole ineligibility at between 10 and 25 years. Both the Crown and defence called for the men to serve 18 years before being eligible for parole and Durno agreed.

"This is clearly a case where there must be a very significant increase above the minimum because of the breach of trust from Muhammad, the abuse of a person under 18 by both, the abhorrent motivation behind the crime... (and) the gender equality issues," he said.

According to the United Nations, as many as 5,000 girls and women are murdered every year around the world as part of so-called honour killings, a crime generally defined as the premeditated murder of a female relative believed to have brought dishonour upon her family.

Crown attorney Mara Basso said outside court that after Aqsa's "shameful, horrible, evil, barbaric murder," the sentences bring her the justice and dignity in death that she never got in life.

"We all have to band together to see that there are no more deaths like Aqsa's," she said.

"We need to honour her memory because she was a very courageous young girl who had the courage to stand up for herself, for her principles every day in that lonely home."

The Parvez family home was not lonely in the literal sense — Muhammad Parvez and his wife were living there, along with six of their eight children, three of their children's spouses and two grandchildren.

Aqsa was allowed only to go straight to and from school, couldn't socialize with friends outside school, was forbidden from getting a part-time job and had no door on her bedroom.

She was eventually allowed to wear western clothing, which the family viewed as a huge concession and was frustrated she still could not be controlled, according to the agreed facts.

The father and brother's defence lawyers said this case is not an honour killing, rather a domestic crime in a dysfunctional family with some very archaic gender notions.

"It stigmatizes a segment of the community for the actions of very few, which does nothing to further what we need to do to prevent this in the future," Joseph Neuberger, Waqas Parvez's lawyer, said outside court.

"We have to do a good job at reaching out to these families (new to Canada) and not only inviting them into a multicultural society, but I think we have to spend more time on what we mean by social inclusion."

After they were sentenced, Muhammad Parvez put his arm around his son's shoulder, and with a slight nod and wave to family in the courtroom, the two killers were led away to begin their life sentences.

©The Canadian Press, 2010

From the article:

Aqsa was in almost constant disagreement with her father and her seven older siblings.

This procreation and only this will be enough to overwhelm Western Society.

When G. Gordon Liddy was in prison, there were only two toilets for the many hundreds of inmates, so Liddy put a sign up over one of the commodes: "For Use By V.D. Patients Only".
That effectively allocated it to Liddy.
Someone needs to put a hijab on these guys and reserve them for their own use.

Maybe they can get raped and have to kill themselves while they are there in jail!

One can only hope!

"Aqsa was in almost constant disagreement with her father and her seven older siblings"

allowing freedom of choice is UN-Islamic

The National news program tonight on CBC tried hard to show that this murder was not an honour killing. It first interviewed a woman who had sheltered Aqsa for ten days at one point. She said that only a mentally ill person, someone not normal, could do such a thing. Then CBC interviewed a young Muslim girl who emphatically stated what we've heard before that this was just domestic violence, not culturally related at all.

Yesterday CBC Radio featured the defence lawyer stating that characterizing the murder as an honour killing wasn't "helpful."

The CBC filters its reports to suit its own agenda.

Kinnedar:

CBC never fails to nauseate me.

The real trouble will start courtesy of national debt, which will eliminate welfare, and then the truly dangerous predatory behaviour will begin.

That's a good point.

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Poor Prez Osama -- with each passing day during the Gulf oil spill increasingly exposed as just another Ivy League Moron who's never held a real job or managed anything, albeit a black one with such a sad-sack record -- is running up the debt for a reason I can understand: conversion to socialism.

But have he and Rahm given any thought to how the Moslems will react when their US taxpayer subsidized checks stop?

A corollary consideration is that, when the fiscal shit hits the fan, not as it is now, but as it will much harder a few years from now, the first thing the cities and states do is lay off police and firemen, not paper shuffling bureaucrats.

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When our new neighbors here, our beloved oh-so-multicultural American Moslems, start taking their rightful money by force, will we still have cops and firemen to respond to the invetible Jizya-seeking Jihad war terror attacks on American soil?

There is a very interesting read over at Vlad Tepes on the Aqsa case, 14 pages of court documents that prove without a shadow of a doubt that all the members of Aqsa's family were aware of her murder before it happened. No wonder they didn't want a tombstone for Aqsa.

http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=23205

The Toronto Star asks an “honor killing expert” from the Religion of Peace:

“For it to be an honour killing, it has to be premeditated murder,” said Amin A. Muhammad, an honour killing expert based at Memorial University. “There was no one incident here which led them to want to regain their honour. It was over a period of time, and it was also about this father losing control.”

(You can always rely on Mohammedans to tell you all the lies in the world, but it is disgusting that the Toronto Star spreads that revolting nonsense to obscure the ugly reality)

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/824135--the-honour-killing-question-a-family-loses-control

http://sheikyermami.com/2010/06/17/aqsa-parvez-honor-killing-was-not-really-an-honor-killing-because/

Queen Rania said that honor killing is un-Islamic, and she is in fact fighting for stiffer penalties for the perpetrators of honor killing in Jordan. Maybe she's right...

Or maybe she's wrong... If she's wrong, can anybody here prove it? If honor killing is, in fact, based on Islam, then what specific verses in the Quran, Hadith, or Sunnah sanction honor killing?

Now that some type of justice has been exacted, God rest her soul. I hope that those two find solace in Koran as that is what they will need for a long time.

Such senseless killng - and all avoidable.
Aqsa paid the ultimate penalty but whilst alive could hardly have been termed as a "trouble free" child. She too could have done much more to avoid confrontration, constant arguing and damaging the family atmosphere.

Children these days are not what we were when we were children. My mother, father, did all they could in their power to bring us up in a decent manner, spend money on education, teaching us life skills and keeping the home happy. As children we too had restrictions which may have seemed hard at the time, but looking back these were nothings and fro our own good.

Aqsa's mother & father must have left Pakistan with a heavy heart all those years ago to start a new life with people who used a differnt language, long droning accents, dressed differently and had a completely different set of living values.

Never the less they plodded on and her father working the Taxis probably did not get to spend as much time with his siblings as he needed and this was all that Aqsa (and many other American and Western children) need to "go their own way".

Before you slag me off, I have been to Africa and India and I see that their children don't "go their own way", they help round the house, they help with the chiores and they try very hard to get educated and make their parents proud and most importantly contribute to a happy house atmosphere.

Here in the West , children cannot wait to get laid, try alcohol, smoke and worse smoke drugs; and that is such a pity. We in the West have really lost our way with our children; yes people here will argure, but I can SEE it for myself - that it's largely true.

All this stuff about "Islam is to blame" - well IMHO it maybe only partially true - we as parents, out instutitions and indeed our very way of life are partially to blame too - and if you cannot see that , you are not free of bias in your mind and that indeed is a sorry state to be in.

Aqsa's parents will have wanted the best for her children, but like an idiot that father had little idea of parenting.

That being the case, I think her mother too shoulod be locked up even though she did not physically carry out the throating.

Come on, Roland, they don't have to come here. Remember the old idea of fighting for freedom, before the refugee idea kicked in? I have no sympathy, none at all. If these people don't know anything about the immoral activity in their own Muslim nations, then they are living in dreamland. The west is NOT the depository of "bad morals".
And yeah, I have beeen to Africa and India too. Nice people, good manners. And their cultures have plenty of hypocrisy.
As for my own Western children, sorry, no drugs, little alcohol; instead church choir, art, that sort of thing. I want the best for my children, and my ideas of parenting fall short of ideal, but the idea of killing them has never occurred to me.
Bias be hanged.

winoceros - I was a hellion of a child: disobedient, lying, sneaking around, drinking, running away, changing my clothes after I left home for school.

Much as it pains me to say this - but you examplify exactly what I saying - a spoilt child of the West.

winoceros - When I said "My mother would kill me if she knew..." I can assure you, though I was afraid of her.

I doubt very much if you were afraid of her - you stood up to her, shouted her down and made her life a misery and posioned the house atmosphere - shame on you.

winoceros - It never ceases to amaze me how morally vacant Muslims are.

I am NOT a muslim, but I think it is people like you who help to drag the Aqsas "out of line". You want to teach them to drink & smoke & to peer pressure them to rebel against their own parents.

Parents are precious and we have to respect them - do you have children of your own? Do they respect you; or do you resort to the cane and slipper?

I notice this sentimentalism in the comments above about Muslim females, and in its train, an implicit assumption that all (most? many? some? how many?) women who wear any kind of covering are being forced against their will.

And then, the next step in the thinking process is that just because a Muslim female is being forced to wear a head covering, she must be also free of all the other mental baggage of Islam that tends to have dangerous consequences for us.

The indications of the data we have seen may show that a large number of females (including girls) are forced to wear the hijab; but the data does not seem to warrant the sentimental and hopeful extrapolations from this. The data indicates in fact that we must assume that most Muslim women are fanatical supporters of the same Islam that is endangering us.

If your sentimentality toward the female sex must compel you to think of Muslimas as "victims", then at least frame that victimhood as the Stockholm syndrome variety -- but a Stockholm syndrome so psychologically profound and so sociologically massive, it would be reckless for us to translate our sentimental concern into any kind of policy to try to address it.

To my fellow AIM (Anti-Islam Movement) members I say: Keep up your guard, for God's sake. Stop trying to find masses of Muslims to spare from suspicion and condemnation.

Roland said:

"Such senseless killng - and all avoidable.
Aqsa paid the ultimate penalty but whilst alive could hardly have been termed as a "trouble free" child. She too could have done much more to avoid confrontration, constant arguing and damaging the family atmosphere."

Yes, yes Roland. It's clear she brought that murder on herself.

'I am NOT a muslim, but I think it is people like you who help to drag the Aqsas "out of line". You want to teach them to drink & smoke & to peer pressure them to rebel against their own parents.'

Uh, I think you are definitely a Muslim. Your thought processes are all Muslim, in stereo.

The real problem here wasn't Aqsa's behavior, it was the crippling insecurities of her Muslim family, especially her Muslim father, brought on by their adherence to Islam. That's what caused him to be embarrassed, his perceived notions of shame heaped on him by his Muslim community. That is what caused the son, who the court documents say was afraid of his father, agree to murder his sister. (He did not want to be married to the Pakistani cousin his dad chose for him but he was too afraid of his dad to divorce that cousin and marry a Canadian woman he was interested in.) That is what caused all his sons and daughters to feign ignorance while their sister was being choked to death in a room in the basement near some of their bedrooms, with the door off.

Let's get real, Roland. More so than a child's attitude if they turn to drink and drugs let's discuss a Muslim man's demented need to control his family, his overwhelming need to look good in the eyes of other Muslims and his pathological belief that he must kill people to make everything "normal". You guys need serious help.

Guys, we've been reading about this Muslim stuff for so long now that we are starting to get used to their negative thinking and anti-social behavior, almost like we accept that it is just something Muslims do. We cannot get desensitized to this. And we cannot let people like Roland get away with the tripe he's shoveling. He blew his I'm-just-a-concerned-westerner-like-everybody-else-here cover when he intimated that Aqsa brought this on herself. Then I knew he was a full blown Mohammadan when he complained that people in the west have "long droning accents". LOL! A five year old could spot you a mile away.

Canadians who complain about the CBC amd the Toronto Star are right. They are both reprehensible. At least my taxes don't subsidized the Star.

If these women weren't brainwashed from the time they were small I wonder how many of them would choose to wear a stinking tablecloth over their entire bodies when it's 90 frickin' degrees outside. It must be so great to try and breathe through a sheet, to try and see where you are going, especially when you are trying to hold onto three or four little kids while walking through traffic. It must be a very pleasant experience to be downtown and realize that you can't stand the smothering and claustrophobic effect of that thing and then realize that if you were to simply take it off you would risk being beaten to a pulp by an insecure Muslim man with a big stick, pumping testosterone, an anger management problem and now that you've exposed yourself, probably a hard on.

Yeah, I can see the appeal of going around town dressed as a Hefty bag. What's not to love?

The poor, long-suffering Canadian taxpayer now must foot the bill to keep these two creeps out of the rain and with three nourishing meals daily for the rest of their natural lives.

Roland stated:

"winoceros - When I said "My mother would kill me if she knew..." I can assure you, though I was afraid of her.

I doubt very much if you were afraid of her - you stood up to her, shouted her down and made her life a misery and poisoned the house atmosphere - shame on you."

roland,

Who the hell are to to theorize about winoceros's childhood?

And nice touch, blaming the victim. Poor Aqsa, if only she had been more compliant, if only her infidel friends hadn't tempted her away from the path of allah, if only she had obeyed her father, like a good little muslima.....

You make me sick.

The United States became a country of immigrants escaping unjust persecution. Instead of allowing the U.S. to now be a target of global jihadists bent on conquering and taking over in the name of Islam, we should be a safe haven for those trying to escape Sharia law. We should pass laws making jihad crimes, including aiding and abetting, hate crimes against non-Muslims with very stiff penalties. And, since jihadists are keeping a low profile until they can openly declare the U.S. conquered for Islam, we should also make stricter laws against domestic violence and child abuse, as that is the domestic terrorism used to subjugate women and children.

It is not because Muslim mothers and fathers do not love their children as much as other parents,but because Muslims see themselves as functionally made 'slaves' and not lovingly created 'children' of allah, servitude(Islam)must comes before anything else,including parental love.Islam deifies selfishness.
Any emotions engendered by slaves forming themselves into families such as selflessness and self sacrifcice, cannnot be allowed to weaken the hellish terrors for any one member not complying with their submission.