Danish reporter: Humanitarian crisis in Gaza? What humanitarian crisis?

gazaveg2.jpg"We have nothing! Potatoes? What potatoes?"

A Danish reporter finds that in Gaza, the victimhood propaganda is as much in abundance as the foodstuffs. Poor, Starving Palestinians Update: “Danish report from Gaza: ‘Where’s the humanitarian crisis?,'” from Elder of Ziyon, June 2 (thanks to Steven):

Danish reporter Steffen Jensen visits Gaza to see how bad things are, given that the entire world is in an uproar over the humanitarian crisis there (translated):

Judging from the media, the situation in Gaza is desperate, everything is about to collapse, and the community is on the brink or at the level of a third world country.

The Palestinian community’s immediate downfall has been prophesied numerous times in the media. People have nothing to eat, we sometimes know. The UN must from time to time to stop food distribution, either because their stocks are running low, or because they can not get diesel for their trucks, and therefore can not carry food in. And so on.

Yesterday I drove into the Gaza Strip. I don’t do this as often as before [because it takes much longer to get through the checkpoints now.]

This time, I had expected to see real suffering, because with all the fuss in recent days about bringing tons of humanitarian relief in – so much that people actually sacrificed their lives for it – there certainly had to really be a deep, desperate situation in the Gaza Strip. No food. Long queues in front of UN food stocks. Hungry children with food bowls.

But this was not the picture that greeted me.

When I yesterday morning drove through Gaza City, I was immediately surprised that there are almost as many traffic jams as there always has been. Is there not a shortage of fuel? Apparently not. Gasoline is not even rationed.

Many shops were closed yesterday, Hamas has declared a general strike in protest against Israel’s brutal and deadly attack on the Turkish flotilla with pro-Palestinian activists on board. So it was difficult to estimate how many products were on the shelves. Therefore I went over to the Shati refugee camp, also known as Beach Camp. Here is one of Gaza’s many vegetable markets that sell much more than just fruits and vegetables.

I will not say whether, in better times has been a larger product range than there was yesterday. But there was certainly no shortage of vegetables, fruits or any other ordinary, basic foods. Tomatoes, cucumbers, corn, watermelons, potatoes – mountains of these items in the many stalls.

I must admit I was a little surprised. Because when I call down here to my Palestinian friends, they tell me about all the problems and deficiencies, so I expected that the crisis was a little more clear.

And the first woman we interviewed in the market confirms this strange, contradictory, negative mindset:

“We have nothing,” she said. We need everything! Food, drinks … everything!”

It disturbed her not at least that she stood between the mountains of vegetables, fruit, eggs, poultry and fish, while she spun this doomsday scenario….

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  1. says

    When Gazan Arabs broke through last year into the Sinai, and Egyptian towns along the border, they were reported as being amazed at “how poor” the Egyptians were. And why not? The Gazan Arabs have managed, like a great many other Arabs on UNRWA elsewhere, and a great many Arabs and Muslims on Western aid money still elsewhere, to arrange things so that they are on a permanent dole. They can thus spend their time trying to plan and carry out attacks on those who supply them with electricity, water, and 15,000 tons of food, medicine, and other supplies every single week — without a single “activist” ever bothering to recognize this, nor any of those papers busy denouncing Israel — that is, the government of Israel, which has no obligation to continue to supply power, or food, or medicine, or anything at all, to people who are in a permanent state of war with Israel because that is what Islam tells them to do, and they are intent on doing it.

    When, in human history, has the intended target of total destruction ever supplied what Israel supplies to the Gazan Arabs (that electric power, water, and 15,000 tons of food, medicine, and so on), that is in wartime supplied to those who wish to wipe it out?

    Give me a single example of any other state, at any time, doing this.

    No, I didn’t think you could.

    Well, why don’t those who appear on debates ever ask this mind-opening question?

    Cat got their tongues?

    What exactly is it, that they can’t discuss the Jihad against Israel that has no end?

  2. says

    Spencer & Geller keep on putting photos of abundant food in Gaza and try and sell it as how good it is over there. Sources, if given – and not all the time) come from well known pro-settler far-right or to put it blunt biased sources.

    Thus we are, in classic radical agenda philosphy, assumed to be stupid and must be told what to think.

    Fair, correct journalistic and academic standards compells the objective writter to submit all facts and evidence. I would rather believe the BBC, France24, TF1, France3, CNN, ABC (Australia), Nos (Netherlands) when they show the real souks of Gaza, the inability to repair hospitals, schools and other infrastructure because building material is banned. That rules are changed daily to play a pscyhological warfare – animal feed is allowed but no animals, frozen food only but no fresh – even though power running freezers is often cut, and so on.

    What is the reason for the propoganda Robert, is it to demonize anything Muslim for your hate-Islam agenda or is it for the no-questions-asked support for the far-right-ultra-religous Coalition that is turning Israel into a Rogue State?

    Why, like the rest of the world, is it impossible to condemn both Hamas and terrorism AND the current ugly State of Israel in the same breadth?

    Donny vdH
    Rotterdam

  3. says

    Internal Memo To The Little Jihad Jihadis:

    Such reporting indicates lack of direction and discipline among our Jihadis. Where are the units responsible for kidnapping and beheading reporters? Do they think they can rest on their Daniel Pearl laurels forever?? Do they think they can shirk their work just because we’ve tricke the world into despairing over the faux flotillas? We cannot have reporters, living the good life in Israel, making these one-day sojourns from the Zionist Entity into greater Palestine and reporting honestly. These units better step back up to the hooka and get some heads rolling, or head will roll around here!

  4. says

    So should we ignore all of the detailed studies because someone found a market in the Gaza strip that had food?

    This seems to be a common theme. One side of the debate has all of the most respected sources. UN detailed studies, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International reports, reports from the most respected legal authorities, like Richard Goldstone. The other side appeals to anecdotes from friendly sources. Here are the facts via Glenn Greenwald:

    60% of Gazans are food insecure, of which 65% are children under the age of 18.

    In February 2009, the level of anemia in babies (9-12 months) was as high as 65.5%.

    http://unispal.un.org/unispal.nsf/47d4e277b48d9d3685256ddc00612265/9a265f2a909e9a1d8525772e004fc34b?OpenDocument

    Since June 2007, “the number of Palestine refugees unable to access food and lacking the means to purchase even the most basic items, such as soap, school stationery and safe drinking water, has tripled”.

    http://www.irinnews.org/report.aspx?ReportID=89302

    Should we reject these findings because Steffen Jensen found a potato stand?

  5. says

    “Well, why don’t those who appear on debates ever ask this mind-opening question?

    Cat got their tongues?”

    Well, no, cats have nothing to do with it. What does is political correctness about Muslims/Islam, coupled with the rampant Jew-hating that has always plagued the world.

    Such as the recent remarks of Helen Thomas – that the Jews should go back “home” to Poland and Germany. “Home” where 6 million of them were mass-murdered. In addition, she said “they {the Jews} should get their butts out of Palestine.” She is a perfect example of a rabid Jew-hater.

    Has this old crone gone senile? Or is she just a garden-variety mentally-arrested species called a “Liberal?”

    “What exactly is it, that they can’t discuss the Jihad against Israel that has no end?”

    Again, Jew-hating, and also because we’re not supposed to speak the truth about evil Islam. That’s a big no-no. The truth-telling of Pam Geller was interrupted by the ignorant CNN reporter – but she let the smarmy Muslim deliver his al-taqiyya lies with smiling approbation.

  6. says

    From post above…Thus we are, in classic radical agenda philosphy, assumed to be stupid and must be told what to think.

    Good Bye idiot…I thought that up all by myself…

  7. says

    Here he comes again, Donny van den Helm (and his pal, Jon), singing his song of Gazan misery and Israeli ugly mischief.
    In an earlier comment, quoting an “old Sefardic Jew”, he compared the Gazan blockade with the Warsaw Ghetto in the early 1940’s.
    In the ’50’s, when I was 14 or 15 I read John Hersey’s “The Wall”, published in 1950, his novel on the Warsaw Ghetto, its suffering, its Uprise and total destruction.
    Donny van den Helm, shame on you to compare one and the other. The Germans delivering tons of food and medicins on a daily basis and caring for the typhoid patients in their
    hygienic, modern and well-equipped hospitals. Can you believe it, you Rotterdammer “die niet van zijn gezond weet”, to use a Dutch-yiddish expression!? But that’s the way the Israeli’s treat their “patients”, though.
    You nitwit, sucking in facts given to you by BBC, France 4 (you remember the al-Dura hoax, that’s the way they like it, how they inform you)and by “old Sefardic Jews”; there your ballad turns into singing the sentimental song to impress your audience.
    Then the facts: frozen meat instead of fresh meat. O, my…
    how dare they do it to the suffering Gazans. In “Hongerwinter”, winter ’44-’45 in Amsterdam, we, I ate tulip bulbs, sugar beet, cats and dogs, gulls (!). You fool,…..frozen meat instead of… We’ll give them caviar.
    Are there animals in Gaza? If so, then they need animal food. No new animals allowed? Perhaps, there are acceptable reasons for that. Last week I saw on television
    a Gazan pet-shop owner (a friendly man). Yes, he had less customers than before. One of the reasons for that, it was because the cages were more expensive, he had to import them from Egypt, Israel didn’t provide animal cages.
    That brings us to the shortage of building materials: maybe, maybe because building materials (and metal animal cages) could be used by Hamas for its ugly goals, pestering
    Jews and beyond.
    In every Middle-East city or village you’ll find poor and destitute people; in Gaza it won’t be different. So that’s no proof of Israel starving Gazan people and its children.

    Donny van den Helm, I think this Holland is too small for
    both of us.

    Erik Mokum

  8. says

    “We have nothing,” she said. We need everything! Food, drinks … everything!” — Gazan Arab lady, sitting amid the bounty of food described above by Danish reporter Steffen Jensen

    And here’s a little more she was thinking, and might have said to Steffen Jensen, if he had stayed a little longer:

    “Yes, it’s so much harder now for our people to be taken to Israel for those heart operations and all the other state-of-the-art medical care, available nowhere else in the Middle East, and given by Israelis even to Gazan Arabs for free.

    Yes, “we have nothing.” And they won’t even let the Karines C, D, E, F, and G off-load Iranian missiles and rockets and, perhaps someday soon, nuclear devices.

    Hezbollah has it so much easier. The U.N. is so much nicer about monitoring than those cruel Israelis.

    What, what, do they want from us?

    That we stop making war on them?

    How can we, really? We are Muslims. They are on Muslim land. They must be destroyed. They have to understand that. We can do no other. Why ask the impossible of us?”

  9. says

    Anybody ever pay attention to places like Darfur and Sudan as much as they do the great victim propaganda machine of Gaza? Now there is a humanitarian crisis of which thousands upon thousands have been slaughtered in the name Islam.

    Never mind of course that the region of which Israel rests is where Jews have resided and played a role longer than any other group in the area. Indeed Abraham, the founder of Hebrew semitic tribe called the Jews can be traced back to as far as 1820 BC or over 2000 years before Mohammed formed his religion. The Word Palestine is the English version of the Roman word used to name the area after they conquered it. Before Islam, Jewish tribes could be found all over the middle east from Arabia to Syria, from Syria to Persia. But ever since Islam there has been a non stop campaign to convert or kill Jews throughout the region that persists today since the words of the Quran are considered pure and cannot be disobeyed or changed.

    One thing is clear, Muslims have become masters of deception and propaganda (stealth Jihad) when it comes to dealing with the Western worlds dhimmi class. they simply refuse to do a little homework on Islam and continue to project an amazing ignorance when it comes to the aggressive determinations of Islam and its committed efforts to establish sharia.

    The evidence of their aggressive ideology is openly present every day and yet we still hear from people like the dhimmi commenter above Donny Van Den Helm who somehow feels more comfortable getting his news from the BBC.

  10. says

    Jon…60% of Gazans are food insecure, of which 65% are children under the age of 18.

    And America has a large number of unemployed, families on welfare and food stamps…Where’s our flotilla? Where’s your outrage Jon? Why don’t you care about the food insecure in America…After all, they are liberals and Mahoundians just like you Jon…Around here they live in the woods in tent villages and old school buses…Most of them grow pot, and only come to town to pick up their welfare checks and stock up on beer and cigarettes…Sometimes they take over the towns only overpass and protest something, often against Israel…Later, they put their candles out, load their kids into the buses and head for home in the woods…They are not food deprived, but they are food insecure…Some conservative could get into office and cut off that welfare gravy…
    I bet you get some kind of welfare don’t you Jon…Do you live in an old bus?

  11. says

    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27338

    The Jews took no one’s land

    Posted: April 23, 2002
    1:00 am Eastern

    By Joseph Farah
    © 2010 WorldNetDaily.com

    As the most visible Arab-American critic of Yasser Arafat and the phony “Palestinian” agenda, I get a lot of hate mail.

    I’ve even received more than my share of death threats.

    Most of those who attack me – at least those who bother to get beyond the four-letter words and insults – say I just don’t understand or have sympathy for these poor Arabs who were displaced, chased out of their homes and turned into refugees by the Israelis.

    Let me state this plainly and clearly: The Jews in Israel took no one’s land.

    When Mark Twain visited the Holy Land in the 19th century, he was greatly disappointed. He didn’t see any people. He referred to it as a vast wasteland. The land we now know as Israel was practically deserted.

    By the beginning of the 20th century, that began to change. Jews from all over the world began to return to their ancestral homeland – the Promised Land Moses and Joshua had conquered millennia earlier, Christians and Jews believe, on the direct orders of God.

    That’s not to say there wasn’t always a strong Jewish presence in the land – particularly in and around Jerusalem. In 1854, according to a report in the New York Tribune, Jews constituted two-thirds of the population of that holy city. The source for that statistic? A journalist on assignment in the Middle East that year for the Tribune. His name was Karl Marx. Yes, that Karl Marx.

    A travel guide to Palestine and Syria, published in 1906 by Karl Baedeker, illustrates the fact that, even when the Islamic Ottoman Empire ruled the region, the Muslim population in Jerusalem was minimal. The book estimates the total population of the city at 60,000, of whom 7,000 were Muslims, 13,000 were Christians and 40,000 were Jews.

    “The number of Jews has greatly risen in the last few decades, in spite of the fact that they are forbidden to immigrate or to possess landed property,” the book states.

    Even though the Jews were persecuted, still they came to Jerusalem and represented the overwhelming majority of the population as early as 1906. And even though Muslims today claim Jerusalem as the third holiest site in Islam, when the city was under Islamic rule, they had little interest in it.

    As the Jews came, drained the swamps and made the deserts bloom, something interesting began to happen. Arabs followed. I don’t blame them. They had good reason to come. They came for jobs. They came for prosperity. They came for freedom. And they came in large numbers.

    Winston Churchill observed in 1939: “So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population.”

    Then came 1948 and the great partition. The United Nations proposed the creation of two states in the region – one Jewish, one Arab. The Jews accepted it gratefully. The Arabs rejected it with a vengeance and declared war.

    Arab leaders urged Arabs to leave the area so they would not be caught in the crossfire. They could return to their homes, they were told, after Israel was crushed and the Jews destroyed. It didn’t work out that way. By most counts, several hundred thousand Arabs were displaced by this war – not by Israeli aggression, not by some Jewish real-estate grab, not by Israeli expansionism.

    In fact, there are many historical records showing the Jews urged the Arabs to stay and live with them in peace. But, tragically, they chose to leave.

    Fifty-four years later, the sons and daughters and grandsons and granddaughters of those refugees are all-too-often still living in refugee camps – not because of Israeli intransigence, but because they are misused as a political tool of the Arab powers.

    Those poor unfortunates could be settled in a week by the rich Arab oil states that control 99.9 percent of the Middle East landmass, but they are kept as virtual prisoners, filled with misplaced hatred for Jews and armed as suicide martyrs by the Arab power brokers.

    This is the modern real history of the Arab-Israeli conflict. At no time did the Jews uproot Arab families from their homes. When there were title deeds to be purchased, they bought them at inflated prices. When there were not, they worked the land so they could have a place to live without the persecution they faced throughout the world.

    It’s a great big lie that the Israelis displaced anyone – one of a series of lies and myths that have the world on the verge of committing yet another great injustice to the Jews.

  12. says

    “Donny vdH
    A proud graduate of Erasumus University”

    LOL! Erasmus would be ASHAMED of you, you PC Idiot. Move to Yemen, where you belong.

  13. says

    I must admit I was a little surprised. Because when I call down here to my Palestinian friends, they tell me about all the problems and deficiencies…

    There’s your Sunnah in action right there baby.

    *** 8:37 ***

    When everybody in Mecca finally got sick and tired of Mohammed’s screaming threatenting condemnatory soapbox act on the street corner in Main Street Mecca, he underwent some severe criticism and complaints to his rich uncle.

    *** 8:7 ***

    But the crazy nutty sleazebag gigolo Mohammed was smart in his response to their gambit: he started whining. Complaining that even though he was screaming and threatening all day long, it was he was victimized cuz everybody ratted him out to his rich uncle.

    *** 92:8 ***

    Long live Mohammed. He just won’t go away.

  14. says

    Since Turkey cares so much, then they should let the Palestinians from Gaza move to their country — including Hamas.

  15. says

    I would not care if Gaza were flattened. It is the springboard for more hate and unrest that anywhere else on the globe.

    Don’t forget about Pakistan, the land of the ‘pure’— rabid muslim savages. It’s a tough call to decide which islamic hellhole spawns the most bellicose, maniacal, blood-thirsty muslim fiends but I think Pakistan and Palestine are running a close race. Of course, the muslim barbarians are everywhere these days and all our lives have been negatively influenced by these Satanic demons and their abominable religion, some more than others.

  16. says

    This may sound paranoid, but I think the whole world seems to have gone anti-Semitic. How else to explain the willful blindness of so many in the West against Israel’s predicament? I can understand the Antisemitism of muslims – it is written in their religion (not that it is excusable), but at least they wear it on their sleeves and they are anti-everything. But Christians deliberately rooting for Palestinians? I can only explain it by assuming that my worst fears about hidden antisemitic bias in the West are factual. I am not a Westerner and am providing what I believe is an outsiders view of this situation. I feel very, very sad about this observation of mine.

  17. says

    El mundo occidental está alimentando a vagos y gandules. Si se vieran juntos todos los dólares que se han entregado a los palestinos, sin duda que aparecerían como el pueblo más rico de la tierra.
    ¿Como es posible que se siga pagando pensión a los palestinos que voluntariamente y a instancias de los árabes abandonanron Israel en 1948?. Los que se quedaron, tienen plenos derechos civiles.
    Mientras tanto 1.200.000 judíos fueron expulsados de los países árabes y sus bienes robados. Ninguno de estos judíos ha recibido ninguna indemnización ni pensión de la UN. Y los que se han quedado entre los árabes son ciudadanos de segunda categoría.

  18. says

    It is naive to think that foreign fighters with a non-stop supply of weapons and oil money can get into Gaza, but that no food would get through.

  19. says

    “Should we reject these findings because Steffen Jensen found a potato stand?”

    No, you should reject these “findings” because if the Palistinians wanted/needed Aid so much they would stop bringing Qassam rockets through the tunnels. And feed their children, instead they blow them up.

    Don’t be a tool.

  20. says

    Well, you know what, Jon?

    Since the “Gazans” are nothing but Arab Muslim squatters on ancient Jewish land, why don’t they get the hell out and go to Arab countries like Jordan and Syria, where they belong?

    Oh, the Arab countries don’t want them, their own kind. Hmmm…that does present a problem.

    “Should we reject these findings because Steffen Jensen found a potato stand?”

    And the people in the photo look like emaciated skeletons. And really concerned about where their next meal is coming from.

    Poor Jon, a brainwashed fool, which, unfortunately, the world is never in short supply.

  21. says

    “This seems to be a common theme. One side of the debate has all of the most respected PROPOGANDA. UN detailed studies, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International reports, reports from the most respected legal authorities, like Richard Goldstone.”

    Fixed it for ya, Jon.

    On the one side you have oil, oil money, threat of oil price hikes and/or oil embargo, threat of smiting at the neck (or if Allah’s zombies are feeling merciful, just smiting a hand and foot on opposite sides) and an organization that gives equal votes to every country of the world, regardless of size, population, ideaology, etc.

    I’m tired of hearing how Hamas was DEMOCRATICALLY elected. Even if the elections were fair, so what? Hitler was democratically elected, too. Democratically elected evil is still evil. It’s lipstick on a pig.

  22. says

    Starvation is a condition near death…Chocolate candy bar deprivation is not starvation…

    Don’t kid yourself Jon…It’s worse than you think, there are piles of starved to death bodies stacking up faster than they can be buried…
    The streets are full of them…The screams and moaning are disturbing…Something has to be done…Maybe Iran and Turkey can help…But of course that evil Spencer and Geller don’t want those people to get food…Starvation is part of their black arts ritual, along with those of decadent Israel…Spencer and Geller plan to cast their demonic net of starvation over millions…The ‘Palestinians’ are just the beginning…The Geller, Spencer, Israeli cabal…So what’s the motivation? Well, we may not agree with Israels motivation, but we know what it is… What do Spencer and Geller get out of this?
    Nothing…They do it because they are just plain mean…
    Did you know that mental institutions, are full of people who are not crazy, they are just mean? That’s Spencer and Geller…not crazy just mean…In fact Allah dedicated a verse to them in the Quran…98:6 “They are the worst of creatures”. If you can’t believe Allah about things like that, who can you believe?

  23. says

    Quoting Jon….”Since June 2007, “the number of Palestine refugees unable to access food and lacking the means to purchase even the most basic items, such as soap, school stationery and safe drinking water, has tripled”.

    Statistics are easy to manipulate or misrepresent.

    Let’s say that in 2007, one single “palestinian refugee” was unable to afford school stationery (since when is THAT a basic necessity?), soap or bottled water. Now let’s say that this year, there are 3 “palestinians” that cannot afford these things (some of which are luxuries even by my own American standards). The number of affected persons have tripled, correct? Does it mean that there is a crisis as a result? Absolutely not!

    For starters, I don’t drink bottled water myself. I drink tap water, water from people’s garden hoses (while I’m working), or I purify my own if I’m out in the woods. Purifying water is not hard to do. Perhaps the “palestinians” would be better off if they put their digging skills to work fixing their sewer system instead of digging tunnels to smuggle in weapons and luxury cars.

    Surely soap can’t be a problem! Not in a part of the world where men throw lye into the faces of women! How about taking that lye and using it to make soap instead of scars or death?

    School stationery???? Give me a break! Since when is fancy writing paper a basic necessity of life?????

    Follow the money, Jon. See who benefits by creating and/or perpetuating events like these, even if there is widespread need like certain areas of Africa. Reporters and the UN are at the top of the list. Reporters are chasing Pulitzers prizes or advertising for their employers. They cry crocodile tears while the camera is on, but they really don’t give a damn about those people. It’s time to move on to the next story.

    If there isn’t a list of perpetually desperate nations the people at the UN would actually have to go out and find honest work to do instead of skimming their cut off the top and making sure they keep those people perpetually wretched so the aid money keeps rolling in. They would have to stop selling women and children into sexual slavery.

    Wake up, Jon. The UN is an organization that has long outlived what little usefulness it ever had. It now exists only to feed the personal greed and political agendas of those on its payroll. It’s time we kicked those buffoons to the curb. I’m inclined to say the same about the media hounds you mentioned.

  24. says

    I am very interested in credible information about the state of affairs inside Gaza.

    Unfortunately the first UN report Jon cites is by the “Division for Palestinian Rights” – an advocay organisation set up by majority vote of the General assembly (one dictator of a small country, one vote)

    The second (IRIN) report immediately follows the “Sixty-one percent of the Gaza population is food insecure” that Jon quotes, with
    “There is a diverse range of foods available in Gaza; the problem is people do not have the means to purchase the food due to rising poverty and unemployment, now nearly 39 percent.” So the problem is a mangled, terrorist affected economy, not an inability to get food through the ‘blockade.’ It is entirely reasonable to not allow Gazans to work in Israel or ship much into Israel when terrorists attack the crossing points and try to infiltrate and attack inside Israel.

    The report includes an Isralei statement that “”Israel does not ration the amount of goods into Gaza provided they are on the list of permitted items” without criticism.

    Incidentally, every IRIN article, including this one, contains the disclaimer that “This report does not necessarily reflect the views of the United Nations”

  25. says

    “What is the reason for the propaganda Robert, is it to demonize anything Muslim for your hate-Islam agenda or is it for the no-questions-asked support for the far-right-ultra-religious Coalition that is turning Israel into a Rogue State?”

    lol My, how Rotterdam has fallen. And to think it’s the birthplace of Erasmus. In no way would the venerable humanist Erasmus soil his superior mind with idiotic, laughable views like this current resident of Rotterdam.

  26. says

    So you say all these photos of well fed gazans are a lie? I have yet to see any starving gazans in any pictures. The UN and the world will see to it they are well taken care of.

    Well jackass, the only rogue state is Gaza which elected these hams ass clowns into power. Israel is under no obligations to support, feed, and provide electricity to these Arab leeches. Leeches who regularly send over suicide killers and missiles into Israel. Unfortunately Israel does provide tons of aid to these worthless gazans. If it was up to me, I would say to them, go ask your super rich Arab brothers to cloth and feed you.

    (note: my spell check couldn’t find hamas in the dictionaery so it suggested hams , I thought that was a good description. I kept it.)

  27. says

    “I’m tired of hearing how Hamas was DEMOCRATICALLY elected. Even if the elections were fair, so what? Hitler was democratically elected, too. Democratically elected evil is still evil.”

    Good one.

  28. says

    “So you say all these photos of well fed gazans are a lie? I have yet to see any starving gazans in any pictures. The UN and the world will see to it they are well taken care of.”

    Desidude, You can be damn sure that if such pictures existed they’d be plastered all over the world “news”. Come to think of it, someone dropped the ball. Pallywood should have a some fake starving Gazan videos ready to release when the first wave of faux flotillas hit the news.

    BTW, BBC World News TV last night spent the entire first five minutes on the Gaza blockade story, non-stop. Really. Is there no other news of world importance? Is there any news that warrants the top full five minutes of a world broadcast? Would the same story had gotten that much prominent air time if it didn’t involved the joooos or the zioinist entity?

  29. says

    I wish I could draw. I’d draw a cartoon of Daniel Pearl’s severed head saying “I believe in Religious Equality and Freedom of the Press”. And KSM (knife or sword in hand) would be saying “So did Mohammed.”

  30. says

    lol My, how Rotterdam has fallen. And to think it’s the birthplace of Erasmus. In no way would the venerable humanist Erasmus soil his superior mind with idiotic, laughable views like this current resident of Rotterdam.

    Actually Erasmus harbored some ugly attitudes about Jews, as shown in his polemics against the Jewish convert to Christianity Johannes Pfefferkorn. Pfefferkorn, undoubtedly in order to show his loyalty to his new religious affiliation, campaigned for the banning of Jewish holy books. Erasmus and all the humanists were against this (being against the banning of books generally), but they attacked Pfefferkorn in antisemitic terms, as a typical representative of his “hypocritical,” “perfidious” race.

  31. says

    Erasmus Rotterdamus said that the radical is willing to alter his faith, morals and standards to support an ideology and not the opposite, which is the theme for my blog. Pointing out radicals and the damage they do.

    Radical political-Islam called Islamism, radical political-Judaism or zionism are two perfect examples. Thus the radicals of Israel versus the radicals of the West Bank, Gaza and neighbours all result in the same thing, the Mr and Mrs Average suffering. The bulk of Gazans do not deserve the blockade, Hamas or wannabe-anti-jihadist morons pretending they know anything other than their capacity to hate.

    Rather like the absolutely ridiculous comment about Helen Thomas which has as much to do with this blog or this subject as your own capacity to know what is real.

    Donny vdH
    Rotterdam – and proud of it
    BEng – Erasmus University
    http://www.blootstellen.wordpress.com

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    Hmm. Well, I don’t know everything about Erasmus, that’s for sure.

    The great Martin Luther also had a hatred for Jews, which is a stain on his otherwise great works.

    Thanks for that disappointing info. Ah well. Nothing’s perfect, is it?

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    Actually to be fair and logical, the culture of that time was in that frame, just as much as the founding fathers of the US were inherantly racist, considered blacks and slaves to be less than second class and often worse for the chinese.

    If we use context, which is unheard of on this blog, we should look at what was life simply like then and not put assumptions or visions from today’s perspective on those examples. Rotterdamus did not want Jewish books destroyed and he certainly believed in the prophethood of both Abraham and Moses. He in a number of works clearly identified Jews as a race and condemned their abuse of duality – he stormed into a large meeting once in Delft and cried out “today they are a faith, tomorrow a religion but ever both on the same day!”.

    Donny vdH
    A proud graduate of Erasumus University

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    WND, run by an evangelical, mostly quoting ynet run by pro-settler political-zionists. Producing, like Hugh does, statistics upon statistics with no context base at all, which is an academic blunder.

    The population of Arabs in Jerusalem is this, or that – but by that argument the population of Jews in the ME would given them no value at all.

    Arguments trying to imply Arabs were not there, not civilized, not having the right to autonomy etc, etc, etc, I see my old Uni teachers cringing at such scholarly failures.

    Arabs were there, so were the romans and phonecians and I am waiting for the ancestors of the Phonecians to jump in and tell both to simply go away because they were there first.

    It comes down to one single concept, does “what God told them so” have any ruling or not. Ironically, that is what the position is for the far-right Likud/radical religious zionist Coalition follows and it seems to be supported by the far-right Islam-haters on this blog, yet their main arguments about Muslims is that religous inspired laws followed by Muslims is wrong because they must say “secular”.

    But then double-standards is one of the context destroying tools of all radicalism, simply put, radicals are bound by the rules of lies, contextual abuse and assuming everyone else are idiots.

    Donny vdH
    Rotterdam
    http://www.blootstellen.wordpress.com

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    Joseph Farah is a reliable source. Others here decry his Christian faith. Wonder why.

    Mark Twain’s (Samuel Clemens’) life is something all Missourians learn about. I recall hearing Clemens quoted,” [Israel] …was a land for a people, a people without a land.”

    Thanks for posting that article. I would not care if Gaza were flattened. It is the springboard for more hate and unrest that anywhere else on the globe.

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    “Rather like the absolutely ridiculous comment about Helen Thomas which has as much to do with this blog or this subject as your own capacity to know what is real.”

    Whaaaat? lol! Bug off, Bloody. YOU are ridiculous! Ridiculous Helen and Bloody! Two RIDICULOUS peas in a pod! You are a SHAME to Holland. Get out and move to Yemen, you Apologist for Evil Islam.

  37. says

    Rather like the absolutely ridiculous comment about Helen Thomas which has as much to do with this blog or this subject as your own capacity to know what is real.”

    lol. Jew-hater Helen Thomas has resigned. Hmmm…guess I do know what’s “real.”

    Oh, and btw – Jew-hating is a HUGE topic on this “blog.”

    Just keepin’ it real, Donny.

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    Kim, actually, Rotterdam is increasingly becoming a Muslim city. The mayor of Rotterdam is a Muslim from Morocco; the population of Muslims in Rotterdam is the highest of any European city.

    As the Italian journalist Sandro Magister wrote of Rotterdam:

    Here entire neighborhoods look like the Middle East, women walk around veiled, the mayor is a Muslim, sharia law is applied in the courts and the theaters.

    Magister then quotes an article by Giulio Meotti:

    “…the city has the tallest and most imposing mosque in Europe…. The most striking thing when one arrives in the city by train are the enormous and fascinating mosques framed by the vibrant green, luxuriant, wooded, watery countryside, like an alien presence compared to the rest.”

    “Three months ago [as of May of 2009], “The Economist,” a weekly publication far from Wilders’ anti-Islamic ideas, spoke of Rotterdam as a “Eurabian nightmare.”…”

    “The picturesque town of Schiedam, part of the greater Rotterdam area, has always been a jewel in the Dutch imagination. Then the fairy tale glow faded, when in the newspapers three years ago it became the city of Farid A., the Islamist who made death threats against Wilders and Somali dissident Ayaan Hirsi Ali.”

    “Just a walk through the streets of the city, and you know right away that in many neighborhoods you are no longer in Holland. It is right out of the Middle East. In some schools, there is a “room of silence” where Muslim students, who are in the majority, can pray five times a day, with a poster of Mecca, the Qur’an, and a ritual washing before the prayers. Another Muslim city councilman, Brahim Bourzik, wants signs placed in various parts of the city showing the direction to Mecca.”

    There’s much more depressing detail in the article:

    http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/1338480?eng=y

    I wouldn’t doubt it if “Donny” feels quite at home there.

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    “The mayor of Rotterdam is a Muslim from Morocco; the population of Muslims in Rotterdam is the highest of any European city.”

    Good God Jesus. The Horror…The Horror…

    Stupid, stupid, West.

  40. says

    I clicked on your link.

    Well, the “palestinians” are just starving, aren’t they! And, they have no clothes! Somebody do something for these near-naked skeletons!

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    Regrettably, we seem to be re-living the 1930s, complete with the anti-semitism of Nazi Germany thrown in. You’d think that we’d have learned our lesson from the death camps the Nazis built in Europe, but there are some (Helen Thomas) who seem all to eager to join Muslims in the ever expanding web of Jew hatred.

    We live in difficult times.

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    “This may sound paranoid, but I think the whole world seems to have gone anti-Semitic.”

    As far as the West is concerned, Israelis suffer from two handicaps:

    1) a residual antisemitism that lingered between the lines of post-Holocaust decades

    2) the unofficial status conferred on Israelis as Honorary Whites, and upon Israel as an Honorary White Western Nation Oppressing a Brown People (shades of Apartheid South Africa).

    In the immediate aftermath of the Holocaust, sympathy was with the Jews, and in the first three decades after Israel was founded, it was more supported generally throughout the West than not.

    However, a sociopolitical process was going on in the meantime: the strengthening of Politically Correct Multi-Culturalism (PC MC), which favors non-Westerners over Westerners, and favors perceived Ethnic Minorities over Whites.

    Then we add to the mix the increasingly bellicose irruption of Muslims onto the Western radar.

    This second process has enjoyed a perversely paradoxical dynamic, which may be expressed succinctly:

    The more that Muslims explode, the MORE — not the less — that the PC MC West bends over backward (and salams forward) to placate them.

    As those two processes have intensified over the years — with 911 and post-911 climate being the most dramatic for the second process — the aforementioned handicaps against Israel have also intensified.

    Back in the 1970s, a then popular actress (Vanessa Redgrave) was virtually blacklisted for her support of the “Palestinians”. But by the 90s and certainly the present Oughts — and into the Teen Years of the 21st Century — it has become fashionable if not positively de rigueur for our celebrities and intelligentsia to be pro-“Palestinian” and more or less anti=Israel.