A roadblock on the road to Eurabia. "Election triumph puts anti-Islam Wilders in line for Dutch Cabinet role," by David Charter for The Times, June 10:
The Freedom Party of the anti-Islam MP Geert Wilders emerged as the third force in Dutch politics last night, more than doubling its number of seats in Parliament in the country's general elections.Exit polls predicted that Mr Wilders would command 23 seats, up from 9 -- pushing the Christian Democrats, led by the outgoing Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende, into fourth place.
With the Dutch Labour Party running neck-and-neck with the cost-cutting right-wing Liberal Party (VVD), it was unclear who would form the next government.
A late rally by Labour, led by the former Mayor of Amsterdam, Job Cohen, saw them forecast to win 31 seats in the 150-member Parliament -- the same number as Mark Rutte's VVD party.
The VVD was expected to gain nine seats, not enough to claim the victory forecast by opinion polls in the run-up to an election that has left the complexion of the new Dutch Parliament split almost exactly between the Left and Right.
Mr Wilders, who wants to ban Muslim veils and the building of new mosques, is constitutionally bound to take part in coalition talks. He could be offered a place in a Cabinet chosen by Mr Rutte, who has said that the Freedom Party is "just another party", but Mr Cohen has ruled out on moral grounds sharing power with the controversial critic of Islam....
That should be "immoral grounds," but in any case, the dhimmis will not be able to ignore him. Congratulations, Geert!
woohoo!
Bravo Geert Wilders :-)
"Mr Cohen has ruled out on moral grounds sharing power with the controversial critic of Islam."
Well that depends on what moral ground you stand on.
Three Cheers for Geert!!
Time to up those security precautions, Mr Wilders. The Muslims will be gunning for you.
And...make sure you have intelligent and courageous understudies.
Pym Fortuyn stepped forward and spoke up first; and a Useful Idiot assassinated him in order to 'protect' the Muslims.
Then Theo Van Gogh stepped forward, and spoke up, and assisted Ayaan Hirsi Ali the apostate to speak up, and *he* was assassinated, by a Muslim, in broad daylight in the street of a Dutch city.
Then you, Mr Wilders, stepped forward.
Make sure there are three, six, a dozen, *twenty* people just as clued-up as you are, fully on board with the aims of the Party of Freedom, who can step into the breach if - which Heaven forbid and all the holy angels prevent - you should fall in the line of duty.
Four Cheers for Geert!!!!
An interview with Geert Wilders appeared today in the Jerusalem Post:
Geert Wilders: If Israel Goes, We Are Next
Wilders hails Israel 'fighting jihad'
By DAVID HOROVITZ
09/06/2010
Dutch "values" party head set to gain seats in current election.
Geert Wilders, who is demanding a halt to immigration from Muslim countries as the centerpiece of his campaign for the Dutch prime ministership, has hailed Israel for “fighting the jihad” and warned that “the West is next” if Israel is unsuccessful.
“Israel is the canary in the coal mine,” Wilders said in a recent telephone interview with The Jerusalem Post, ahead of Wednesday’s elections in the Netherlands. “The jihad against Israel isn’t against Israel only. It’s against the whole West.”
A year ago, Wilders’s PVV (Party for Freedom) was scoring 28 percent in opinion polls and appeared to have a realistic prospect of winning the elections. It has declined since then, however, he said, as economic issues have become increasingly dominant.
“There’s not a big chance that I’ll become prime minister,” he said.
Nonetheless, the PVV is expected to double its current nine seats in the 150-member parliament, and front-runner Mark Rutte, of the People’s Party for Freedom of Democracy (VVD), said this week that he was not ruling out Wilders’s party as a coalition partner.
Wilders, who is Catholic, has faced a barrage of criticism, legal action and death threats for expressing trenchant criticism of Islam, and lives amid constant security precautions. He told the Post that while he believes “there are moderate Muslims,” and that many Muslims living in the West are moderate, law-abiding people, “I don’t believe there is a moderate Islam.”
He described Islam as “a totalitarian ideology – against freedom, and the rule of law, and the separation of church and state.”
He said the influx of Muslims into countries such as Holland was causing “the Islamification of our societies.” In the wake of his 2008 film Fitna, he noted, he was “taken to a criminal court in the Netherlands for things I said about Islam” and had to wage a legal battle last year to enter Britain after first being barred.
“Freedom of speech is under attack,” he said. “It wouldn’t have happened if I had criticized Catholicism.” Wilders said Holland’s Muslim population had grown to about one million (out of the 16 million national populace), and that “tens of thousands are still arriving each year, from Somalia, Iraq, Morocco, Turkey” and beyond. In other European countries, the percentage of Muslims was much higher, he said. The influx “is bringing enormous changes,” he said, speaking about women and homosexuals being harassed in the streets in some Muslim neighborhoods and the rise of Shari’a courts.
“It is five minutes to midnight,” he said. “I say stop the mass immigration from Muslim countries – not because the people are bad, but because our cultural heritage and society, based on Christian and Judaic values, on humanity, is better than the Islamic... If we don’t deal with this and don’t stop immigration, because of [misguided] politically correct reasons, then we’ll lose Europe.”
Wilders, 46, established the PVV six years ago, having left the VVD because of his opposition to its stance on Turkey’s accession to the EU. An outspoken supporter of Israel, he spent two years as a volunteer at Moshav Tomer in the Jordan Valley after high school, and has visited numerous times. He has also been to Iran, Iraq and Syria/
He described the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as ideological rather than territorial.
“If Israel gave, say, the West Bank to the Palestinians, this would not bring peace,” Wilders said. “The next step would be for the Palestinians to claim that Ashkelon, Ashdod, Haifa and Jerusalem are the next ‘settlements’ to be conquered.”
He added: “I always say that parents everywhere in the West sleep well at night because parents in Israel lie awake at night – because their children are fighting the jihad."
“You’re fighting our fight,” he said. “And after Israel, we are next.”
The tide is turning. Eventually it will become an inexorable tide. Muslims, and dhimmi apologists for spiritual fascism, take note. I sense we have here the end of the beginning.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/27982
So true, Hugh! ...what an excellent interview and article.
Freedom lovers everywhere need to stand by Israel!!
Until Muslims can come to terms with the fact that in a modern context Mohammed would be considered a 1) genocidal war criminal for murdering 900 Jews in cold blood at Medina, 2) an accessory to murder in the many cases of those whom insulted the "Prophet", who were either murdered at Mohammeds encouragement, or pardoned by him (in one case a Muslim even riped a fetus from a pregnant woman, and was still pardoned by Mohammed), and 3) a pedophile. Until such time that Muslims can admit these facts no sane western nation should allow people that believe, "Muhammad was the greatest moral example ever" to immigrate and spread their filth freely into our societies. We wouldn't even allow Mohammed to come here, why should we allow you? We don't hate Muslims, but we do HATE being lied to, and we HATE appeasers. 3 Cheers for Geert, a man of truth.
By the way I have read that Geert went from 9 seats to 23 seats, an increase in power of 260%
"The figures show that a right-wing coalition between the VVD, Mr Wilders' PVV and CDA, with 74 seats out of 150, is only possible if the usual margin of error between exit polls and the final result benefits any of three parties."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/7815699/Geert-Wilders-could-be-kingmaker-in-Dutch-parliament-after-coming-third.html
Bladerunner, the preachy, Hollywood concoction is pure fiction.
'Quite a thing to live in fear isn't it?'
Good Luck Geert.
You just can't hold a good man down...Congratulations Geert...
It is really sad to read all this. First the disappointment of Geert Wilders becoming this big in Holland. Is this democracy? Ruling out a big minority group, just because they are not enough in absolute number to get themselves heard?I guess it is. A better question is, is democracy really an honest way?
First of all, do you not realize fear and ignorance are the very beginning of dangerous beliefs? Whether you are a muslim or an atheist..
How can you focus on that little fraction of muslims that give the other millions a bad name, while there is this huge majority that chooses to live in peace and experience religion as something that guides them personally,something private?
How can you say that you are supporting freedom and supporting Israel in the same sentence? Have we missed the point where the Israelis are the ones that are suppressed? Whereas the Palestinians have no rights no power and no money, Israel is the country that kills 9 human rights activits (that just wanted to supply aid, such as food) claiming they had weapons on board. And remind me, who build that wall blocking in the Palestinians, taking away their freedom?
Can you only have freedom when you take it away from someone else?
From all the people, the Jews are the ones suppressing a poorer minority. They should know better, have they not learned their lesson about where blind hatred can lead to?
I understand why Wilders is their number one supporter from the West.
How is he any different than muslim terrorists to you, accept for the fact that he is on the other end of the spectrum?It is not any less dangerous.
Fear leads the scared ones, Courage the brave.
Do you think you can just ignore and even suppress millions of people based on their religion, a religion where you obviously do not know enough about to judge?
Where did we miss the point where religion became a political weapon, instead a private way of life? I can assure you, the great great majority of the muslims did not agree with and was just as sad as anyone else, maybe even more, about what happened on 9/11.
Do you not see that you are just widening the gap and spurring terrorist behavior by turning against muslims this radically?How would you feel or react if you would be treated inferior to others? With suspicion, fear, hatred, ignorance and disgust..
Have you ever considered that the only way out is to put off the blindfold and open your ears, because everyone has the right to and wants to be heard.
I just want to ask you, how are you any different from any kind of terrorist if you have beliefs that stroke with Wilders and the Israelis...
If Wilders claims to build his political program on christian beliefs, whatever happened to "treat thy neighbor as thyself"? Did the new testament add: except for the muslims?
I can assure you, a core principle in the Islam, which can be found in the Koran, is to respect other religions, especially Christianity and Jewism.
How can you call the prophet Muhammed, may he rest in peace, a genocidal war criminal, when the Christians murdered so many people during the Crucades?
All I am asking, is to think twice before taking a stand that is important for the world.
Hatred has never lead to anything good.
Lets not let history repeat itseld ever again.
Thank you.
"First of all, do you not realize fear and ignorance are the very beginning of dangerous beliefs?"
YO ...
Please read Robert's book, The Truth About Muhammad, forthwith!
Good Luck...Geert!
"I can assure you, a core principle in the Islam, which can be found in the Koran, is to respect other religions, especially Christianity and Jewism."
Lol :)
You discard the Koran, where millions of people believe in, and recommend me The truth about Muhammad, written by Robert Spencer? Who is he to tell me what things are like?
Truth is perception, a religion is based on belief and interpretation.
This is just what I mean. Instead of being open minded and letting something else enter your thoughts, you immediately chose to go against what I said, while I did not attack anyone, just to prove me wrong.
I guess you failed to understand my point.
Too bad.
Y.O. -- Wilders' victory is the first good news I have had all day. His courage and integrity and devotion to telling the truth are reaching people. There are still human beings out there. I have a chance for a decent night's sleep.
But it's not quite enough for me to give you a pass.
You know how one of the nasty things about vampire stories is how those little devils just can't resist pouncing on snivelling little snakes like you? Well, you slimy little taqiyya peddler, I'm about to have me a VAMPIRE MOMENT:
HATRED OF A VICIOUS EVIL SUCH AS ISLAM COMES NATURALLY TO ANY MORAL PERSON. MOHAMMAD WAS A MURDERER, THIEF, RAPIST, CHILD ABUSER, LIAR, AND PSYCHOPATH. HIS -- AND YOUR -- GOD ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST. THE RELIGION HE INFLICTED ON THE WORLD IS A PLAGUE THAT HAS CAUSED THE DEATHS OF TENS OF MILLIONS OF INNOCENT VICTIMS. HIS "DEVOUT" MURDER IN HIS NAME AROUND THE WORLD EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY.
YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THIS BECAUSE YOU GET A MENTAL BONER OUT OF BELIEVING THAT ALLAH LOVES YOU AND WILL TAKE YOU TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE WHERE MUSLIM ANGEL WHORES WILL PEEL YOUR GRAPES FOR YOU IF YOU GET MY DRIFT.
AS FOR THE PROPHET MOHAMMED, I DON'T BELIEVE IN AN AFTERLIFE BUT IT'S STILL NICE TO FANTASIZE ABOUT MO GETTING IT THROUGH THE REAR DOOR BY AN ENDLESS PARADE OF OVERENDOWED SEX-STARVED HOGS FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY.
YOU ARE A LIAR AND YOUR DAMNED RELIGION DOES NOT RESPECT ANY OTHER WAY OF THINKING. GET OUT OF OUR FACES. GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY IF YOU'RE HERE. AND IF THIS NIGHTMARE CONTINUES TO ITS LOGICAL END, I FRANKLY DO NOT CARE IF WE HAVE TO KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU WHO TRIES TO FORCE YOUR VILE BELIEFS ON US.
Other than that, I have no strong feelings about your ridiculous comments.
Live Free or Die.
Long Live Lady Liberty.
"Hatred has never lead to anything good". Good point, YO. Are you referring to the vitriolic hatred emanating from the Muslim world over everything from cartoons and teddy bears upwards?
Regarding the rest of your post: keep on taking the tablets!
This is whats so sad.
You calling yourself Liberty.
You dont want things to be better, you need someone to blame.
Way to go to show what a strong person you are.
I am not trying to convince anyone to believe, but why hate?
Its cheap and does not suit well-educated people.
But then again, maybe you do not belong to that group
A study just showed that 50% of the voters for Geert Wilders are low educated individuals.
So, your opinion does not surprise me :)
I feel bad for you that you are so narrow minded.
Good luck with enjoying your life, being so bitter!
Resistance to any Imperialistic Theocratic Tyranny is common sense and the basis of self-preservation
Go Geert!
"A study just showed that 50% of the voters for Geert Wilders are low educated individuals".
.... Hmmmmm, didn't think that muslima's were allowed to vote.
And don't forget, ever, Pim Fortuyn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgM9JozWOf0
Hate is not a bad thing if it is directed at evil. Islam is an evil religion. That is why we hate it.
"Let those who love the LORD hate evil." - Psalms 97:10
Just imagine for a moment being ruled, having every facet of our lives controlled and twisted to fit the fantasies of self-righteous Taqiyya Trolls such as Y.O., mouthing meaningless platitudes as he smugly watches Muslim "morality" enforcer thugs beat, maim, and kill all those who don't obey the word of Mohoremadman (May Pigshit Be Upon Him). Ever read "1984" YO? You will find yourself in there. His name is O'Brien.
God, you people are the most uninspired bunch of losers all together, totally meaningless blabbing like a bunch of unhappy housewifes.
Please do yourselves a favor and go do something about it then. You sad little men hiding away on some sad shady forum all together hating on something you cannot stop.
I can imagine why you are unhappy. Youre probably middle aged, did not manage to make something out of yourself and the only way to feel good is come together with the rest of the middle to lower class John Does and whine.
How does it feel to never stand out in life? Being absolutely visionless and boring? God can you be anymore boring..We have heard it by now. Islam is the root of all evil..yeah yeah get over it. Can you come up with something original now?
I thought this forum would pose a more challenging debate, guess not..losers ;)
You guys are a bunch of sorry terrorists yourselves. You just dont have the guts to act on it, scared as shit that you are in real life, coming to whine with other bitches like yourself online. I would be ashamed. You sound like a sad little cult together!Cute though!Thinking you can make a difference.
PVV can be as big as he wants, his plans will never run through in our coalition, neither of the big parties want to sit with Mr. Bleach in a coalition. So in the end, you lose again.
But that does not matter. What matter is that I am a Muslim, a woman, graduating top of class and succeeding in everything I do. SO BE AWARE! EVIL IS COMING YOUR WAY IN THE FUTURE!BE SCARED.
Haha..your comments made me laugh a bit though ;)
Now run off little crybabies, GoodBye!
You discard the Koran...
Not discard it, expose it...
Please take your disgusting moralizing and go away...You have nothing of substance to add...
"Good luck with enjoying your life, being so bitter!"
Such irony, lol ...
Is she/him/it gone? Can I tell Scotty to lower the shields? :)
Song of Celebration:
Drink, drink, drink, drink,
Drunk, drunk, drunk, drunk,
Drunk last night, drunk the night before,
I'm gonna get drunk tonight
Like I never got drunk before.
When I'm drunk I'm happy as can be,
For I am a member of the Wilders family.
Oh, the Wilders family is the best family
That ever came over from old Euraby.
There's the highland Dutch and the lowland Dutch
The Rotterdam Dutch and the goddamned Dutch.
Oh glorious, singin' glorious,
One keg o' beer for the four of us.
Glory be to god that there are no more of us
For one of us could drink it all alone - damn quick.
When god made the Irish
He didn't make much
But they're a damn site better
Than the goddamned Dutch
I am trying to remember and I can't think of a time that I actually felt a thrill about a foreign election.
The greatest defender of Western Civilization is gaining power in Europe and it should feel good to all people that value their freedom. Not just in Europe but everywhere. Mr.Wilders could be the stalwart that the world needs in it's fight against islamic supremicism.
God Bless Geert Wilders!!!
GBAI
Oh ho... so YO turns out to be a Mo Ho. Which explains a lot. Anyone would be a bit crabby going through life with her bell missing its clapper, shall we say. Is is, isn't it, YO? Otherwise Allah will curse you for being all dirty and stuff.
It's really too bad you missed WWII, YO Mama. You'd have made a great concentration camp guard. But then, I'm sure that's on your wish list for the future, you and your little "coalition" pathetically trying to take over a civilized country that you couldn't possibly replicate in the desert hellholes you come from because it's all inshallallalala dontchaknow.
As for our not having the guts to act, we don't return words with violence. We will wait for you arrogant Dark Age desert throwbacks to start something. Then you will find out what the Nazis and Japanese and learned the hard way. In your case I do hope it will involve your sorry little ass being kicked out of the Netherlands to some Muslim backwater where you can continue your oh so promising career from under a burka if your dirty little first cousin husband from some stinking village lets you stop breeding his babies long enough to get out of the house.
I just wanted to get in one more swat at her, duh_swami. It's fun to watch them start out with the taqiyya then turn into screeching muslima shrews when nobody takes the bait. Shame on the Dutch for putting up with them for so long, but good on them for supporting Geert.
oh my God! Yo mama Geert is wooing his people! Way to go Geert, LET FREEDOM RING! TElling the truth about islam does hurt! how can any muslim wake up each day and know that non-Muslims can read the evil from the koran! and we can cast out these islamist demons! let them go back home!
You thought this forum would pose a more challenging debate? Well, why don't you provide a few examples of what would be more challenging. Put up or shut up.
Oh yeah, for the record, count me with Dante, Hume, Gibbon, Jefferson, Quincy Adams, de Tocqueville, Schopenhauer, Gladstone, Renan, Churchill, Russell and Fallaci, all of whom found Islam wretched. Islam is wicked and if you're a Muslim, you're not necessarily evil, though Islam has far more than its share of evil, sick human beings, but you and every Muslim are confused. Anyone who thinks a giant fraud like Mohammed, who was psychopathic, perverted and brutal, is the last and greatest of the prophets has been suckered big time in a P. T. Barnum kind of way. Done here, sucker.
Y.O., or Yasemin Ozdemir, the Muslim poster above who has such a high opinion of herself, left a similar, but even more confused, comment, as "Y," at www.newenglishreview.org. I suspect more will be heard from her, now that she has discovered both sites, but if she becomes even more tedious, I trust her missives into the ether will soon enough be blocked, so no one has to endure the nonsense and lies.
"Where did we miss the point where religion became a political weapon, instead a private way of life?"
That is the point that everyone here, and Geert is talking about. Islam IS a political weapon, which kills free societies. You know what we are talking about, look at the Islamic world, look at what is already growing here, we are tired of the lies.
Among other bizarreries presents as coherent thought, Yasemin Ozdemir offers this, as a comment under my posting of a song from Dennis Potter's "Pennies From Heaven":
"On intolerance and hatred..driving people more apart than ever. On igniting a vicious cycle? If the PVV is built on christian morals and values..where has the "treat thy neighbor as thyself" part gone?
Supporting Wilders is the same as supporting muslim terrorist..The only difference is you are now on the other end, but not any less dangerous.
Everyone should stop looking at those few rotten appels and look at those that are succesful and honoust..those that outnumber the bad ones easily by many many times.
So this night is a disappointment..for the Netherlands as a whole. Where we once were a tolerant multi-cultural open minded country, we are now dangerously approaching fascist characteristics. Blaming one minority group has never worked out right..
Just ask the jews...Those that Wilders praises so much. Does he know their history? Have the Jews forgotten their own? How can anyone be so ignorant..?"
"A few rotten appels"? Where "we" (what do you mean, "we," Ms. Ozdemir?)were "once were a tolerant multi-cultural open minded country" until, for some unaccountable reason, people began, prompted by Muslim behavior and Muslim demands for changes, and Muslim aggression and Muslim violence, began to find out about what is in Qur'
an and Hadith and Sira, and then to connect the dots, and realize that those who take Islam to heart are quite reasonably to be feared and mistrusted by non-Muslims, and the very notion of someone who proclaims herself a Muslim, and knows full well that there is none of that "do unto others as you would have them to unto you" in Islam (Ali Sina, at www.faithfreedom.org, has written an essay on the complete absence of such a notion in Islam), to throw back at non-Muslims some imperfectly-remembered version of that, takes the cake, does it not?
Was the Netherlands once so tolerant and wonderful as, say, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, the Sudan, Egypt, Iraq, Pakistan, Algeria, or, for that matter Turkey -- which owes what progress it has made to its secular class, and above all to Ataturk, who understood all of the ways that Islam held Turks back, and he was determined to systematically constrain Islam, and for the beneficiaries of Kemalism (of whom, ironically, Yasemin Ozdemir may very well be one, but an insufficiently grateful one - how very Kuffarish of her).
'Nuff said about Ms. Ozdemir.
I bet most of the posters on this website would fail the Dutch citizenship test since you have to watch a video showing to gay men kissing.
Here's a Dutch citizenship test that makes sense:
http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm?frm=3420&sec_id=3420
Here is a rather poignant comment from a times online article that deserves re-posting, please keep in mind the obvious lies in the recent Keith Olberman video. All of the lies, misinformation, and money bad reporting can buy can not kill the truth. This quote is perfect, we are waking, and we are tired of the dishonesty from Muslims, and their apologists. All of the money in the world can not change reality it appears, time for Muslim to start being honest with themselves because your lies are just pissing us off:
Alec Paterson wrote:
"Geert Wilders is exposing and challenging the core assumptions upon which current Dutch and European Union policy are based. And since one of those policies is unrestricted immigration from Muslim countries, they hoped to discredit Wilders's work in exposing how Islamic jihadists use violent passages of the Koran to justify a violent and supremacist ideology. The multiculturalist Dutch authorities have a pliant media on their side, and they have much more money and much more political clout than Wilders could even dream of having. Yet for all their power, they cannot engage Wilders in honest debate and prove him wrong, and so in order to silence him they resorted to a show trial. Sharia is entering our daily lives to an increasing extent thanks to intensive Muslim lobbying and appeasement from Western governments. Geert Wilders is one of the few Western political leaders who have the vision and the courage to stand up and say ‘no more’. Geert Wilders is a champion of free speech, which in Europe is under threat from an Islamist totalitarian ideology, and our unelected elite within the EU"
Y.O.,
Congratulations on your graduation (with honors) from Joseph Goebbels University, School for Taqiyya Studies!
Not to rain on your parade, of course, but if your rantings here are any indication, you may have a tough go here in the West. Speaking of which, you DID come to the West to get that education, right? Why not in one of the OIC countries, Y.O.? What a coincidence that institutions for higher learning are found in civiized societies, and seem lacking in backward, repressive ones!
About your future. As you've noted, the West is catching-on to the dirty truth of islam.
Western society will become an increasingly inhospitable place for you (inshallah). But then, you could go back to Dar el islam and be a 2nd-class citizen in a third-rate country, forced to hide under your islamic "garments." And become part of the demographic jihad, you know, that baby-making production-line for little future jihadis. Not to worry, your islamic MEN there will tell you what to do, when and how to do it. And especially what you CAN'T do. Islam gives you such GREAT choices!
We've seen enough, heard enough, had enough of brutal islam, Y.O. Nothing that ANY muslim(a) can say will provoke any false shame or apology for seeing the truth, speaking it and not wanting this disease in our countries.
You want to be on the wrong side of history?
Great! See ya' later--don't let the door hit ya'!
I bet most of the posters on this website would fail the Dutch citizenship test since you have to watch a video showing to gay men kissing.
You may be right about that Dustin...but I bet you have no problem with two men kissing... you are probably used to it by now...
On-line I note a previous comment by Alec Patterson that has an awfully familiar ring:
Alec Paterson
December 19, 2008 at 22:35
"This was a ceasefire that wasn’t, as there were frequent missile and rocket firings from Gaza. The Hamas Islamists used the lull to stockpile weaponry for the restarting of hostilities. They have no interest in a peaceful solution, only the demise of the only Jewish state.
There is no solution in sight and no gimmick, such as a 2/3/4 states, that will bring such an outcome. The PA and Fatah, which few reporters can even mention without inserting the word moderate before their names, isn’t anywhere near moderate enough to make peace. If you examine in detail the composition of the PA or Fatah, the nature of its leadership, the articles in its newspapers or its television shows, the slogans at its rallies, the contents of its textbooks, the themes of its officially appointed clerics sermons, and so on, the combined inability and unwillingness to make peace could not possibly be more obvious.
This phony “peace process” continues to ignore The Real Core Issue: Islam, and the refusal, by Muslims, properly following the texts and tenets of Islam, to countenance the permanent existence of an Infidel state, whatever its size, on land once ruled by Muslims, land and, what’s more, on land that is smack in the middle of Dar al-Islam."
I find in that last paragraph a number of things I recognize as from postings I have repeatedly put up here. I don't mind the lifting, it's fine.
Anyone should feel free to re-use phrases, sentences, paragraphs thatI might previously have put up at JW or elsewhere. But a slight wink of acknowledgment in my direction might not be out of place. Just so I know that you know that I know that you know etc.
Congratulations, Honourable Mr. Wilders!
This is a huge step and a great victory for the Netherlands.
lol, Duh_Swami! ...yeah it looks like she-it is gone, thank God. And she started out somewhat cool, calm 'n collected, but then she turned on a dime and went berzerk!!
YO writes:
"Hatred has never lead to anything good.
Lets not let history repeat itseld ever again.
Thank you."
Hmm, looks like she can't follow her own advice, eh? And lets hope history doesn't repeat itself where she is concerned ...
lol, Duh_Swami! ...yeah it looks like she-it is gone, thank God. And she started out somewhat cool, calm 'n collected, but then she turned on a dime and went berzerk!!
YO writes:
"Hatred has never lead to anything good.
Lets not let history repeat itseld ever again.
Thank you."
Hmm, looks like she can't follow her own advice, eh? And lets hope history doesn't repeat itself where she is concerned ...
Hartelijk bedankt Geert! ..and Congratulations!
(Yo..Eat my shorts..Try them on first though..if you're allowed to, of course)
Um, the boat that tried to break the Israeli blockade did have weapons on it. Unless where Y.O. comes from, giant knives and metal batons aren't considered weapons...
And if she "respects Judaism" as she claims, why does she have a problem with the Israeli Navy doing its job?
As for the Dutch elections, well done, Mr. Wilders, and continued luck in the future.
Quoting Y.O. "It is really sad to read all this. First the disappointment of Geert Wilders becoming this big in Holland. Is this democracy? Ruling out a big minority group, just because they are not enough in absolute number to get themselves heard?"
You do not understand demcoracy. Democracy is not about making sure the weakest group gets their way. It is about majority rule. Most of us do not like islam because of the way muslims behave. It is our society and muslim behavior is a problem. If you wish to live in our countries, you must assimilate. You must stop living off our tax dollars. You must stop demanding special courts. You must stop demanding special facilities. You must stop demanding special work schedules. You must stop demanding that certain foods be removed from our restaurants. You must stop demanding special dress codes. You must stop demanding special banking procedures. YOU MUST STOP MURDERING US!
Otherwise, get out and stay out of our nations.
As far as hearing muslims goes, it seems that's all we ever hear. Muslims whinging about this, muslims crying about that, muslims lieing about this, muslims demanding that, muslims rioting in the streets, muslims murdering non-muslims, muslims murdering each other. We are tired of the cacaphony of discord that constantly emanates from muslims.
We have to focus on what you claim to be a tiny minority (it isn't) that give millions of muslims a bad name because you muslims refuse to address this problem. You are content to sit by and watch in silent approval as we are slaughtered 1 by 1, 10 by 10, 100 by 100, 1000s by 1000s.
You claim we know nothing of your religion. Which koran would you like me to pull off of my bookshelf? I prefer Pickthall's translation, done decades before the West decided to adopt Political Correctness. Pickthall does an excellent job of capturing the true, bloodthirsty, maniacal instructions of of the Sociopathic Pedophile Prophet (Plague Be Upon Him). Hadiths? I've got them, too.
In reality though, everything I REALLY needed to know about islam was learned on September 11th, 2001 as I watched my countrymen leap to their deaths to end their agony, as I watched buildings collapse on my fellow paramedics and EMTs, as I watched my fellow soldiers incinerated in the Pentagon.
I assure you, I know exactly what islam is about.
Now here is something YOU need to know. Islam's day is over. We will not submit.
Hugh,
If I may take the liberty to suggest, blocking anyone, howsoever irritating, may not be a good idea. Unless, there is a use of foul words at least.
I got blocked once from altmuslim site (they did not inform me they were blocking me, I just started getting error message when I tried to sign in) and I think it always lowers the stature of those who block.
Of course, if any of us posts on altmuslim site, we are speaking truth and logic, whereas they posting on our sites are trolling. But it is easy to establish moral equivalence before fence sitters (look we gag but they gag too, so they are no bigger believers in freedoms, freedom of speech, than we are).
And my view is that these posters, howsoever lying and howsoever irritating, do not strain me. Rather it is better to listen to them and hit back on the fora and I find they usually shut up after a few posts.
Rest is upto the owners of the site.
Sanjay
Y.O.
“I can assure you, the great great majority of the muslims did not agree with and was just as sad as anyone else, maybe even more, about what happened on 9/11.”
I do remember that to show their disagreement they were dancing on the streets and praised the act in mosques. Not all moslems are terrorists. Majority has no guts to face the consequences of criminal action, but majority of moslems do support those actions.
“How can you call the prophet Muhammed, may he rest in peace, a genocidal war criminal, when the Christians murdered so many people during the Crucades?”
Yes, they did. The difference is that we are not proud of it and do not employ them as our moral standards for today. As moh is still a perfect man for any moslem.
“Hatred has never lead to anything good”
You are right. That is why moslim countries are underdeveloped, culturally backwards and keep population in poverty.
“ I am a Muslim, a woman, graduating top of class and succeeding in everything I do”
Let me doubt that statement of yours. My work involves education, mostly on post-graduate level.
I have been working in Britain, US, Australia, Russia and Thailand. Part of my work is education, mostly at post-graduate level. I do not particularly like that part of work, though there is an exception : I like bright students. Not ones I had a smart moslem student! I asked my colleagues if they even had any and the answer was NO. I just wonder which school you graduated from.
Pong
well answered.
So...we have a new troll. Mr.Yo-Yo. Wotta twit...and entertaining too!
It spews a bunch of venom tells us to run away...and then runs away!
No more debate...just intellectual cowardice.
How very typical of the mopeople. Prolly had some little kid all set up for a night of thighing and had to end his tirade.
islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.
An update: Geert Wilders did not get 23 seats, but 24.
Their victory would have been absolute if these elections were not overshadowed by the economic crisis
SO BE AWARE! EVIL IS COMING YOUR WAY IN THE FUTURE!BE SCARED.
Y.O., your Jihad is showing...really poor taqiyya form
You have to work on that to convince this crowd.
Mohamed,married 2 Jewish women who according to Islamic history were barren.and never gave him children As a result,he let them leave his harem as undesirables.The real facts are as follows;they used a primitive form of contraception so as not to get pregnant from that man. They went to vegetable vendors and chose the right onions,peeled and cut them in half vertically,took the correct sliver and carefully immersed the sliver in boiling water for seconds,that made them semi soft and introduced the sliver in their vagina.(A primitive Dutch cap). The extra bonus was that the onion also acted as a prophylactic. Clever hey?
Yesterday was my last day of teaching classes for this school term. As a result, I didn't make blog rounds last night. Too exhausted!
Anyway, I finally get to Jihad Watch this morning and read this excellent news.
Can the tide really be turning? Please, God (the real One), let it be so!
"By the way I have read that Geert went from 9 seats to 23 [now updated to 24] seats, an increase in power of 260%."
Not to nitpick, but while 23 is 260% of 9, the increase is 14, or 160%. If the increase were 260%, his party would have 32 seats.
Islamics must change their attitude (and they will not)or go back to their countries. Out of Europe!
You are doing great,Geert. Keep it up! God bless you.
"lol. Shut-up Mohammedan. We're completely imune to your pathetic Muslim propaganda.
Bravo Geert Wilders!"
True, Kim! :) ...and we love you Geert! xoxo
Big Congo from me Geert!!!!
Hey Y.O. what happened ? Where did you run to? We will find you. The stones will be saying there is a MoPhile hiding behind me, come and get him..... wow.. your days are numbered. Your pathetic religion is under our scrutiny. People are wising up to all the taquies any MoPhile throws at them. You should watch that video above how Robert rips a MAS Mophile apart. He shreds him into little pieces. Thats how Islam will end - in small little pieces. Remember, you read it on JW first.
Y.O., or Yasemin Ozdemir,
Ask yourself a couple of things, if you are capable.
What is paradise going to be like for you, being the faithful Muslim woman that you are?
If Islam is the greatest gift to mankind, the true religion, etc., etc.,- Why is it that wherever you find an Islamic-ruled, Sharia Law bringing, pious place on Earth, these are the places everyone can't leave fast enough?
Come on, admit it... your only wish is to see the rest of the world suffering as much as Muslims have suffered, and always will suffer as long as Islam is believed.
"What is paradise going to be like for you, being the faithful Muslim woman that you are?" [Y.O., or Yasemin Ozdemir]
Muslim females don't get paradise. They get hell. That's what Mo said - Muslim women go to hell. On his "night journey" (lol), Mo saw the Muslim women hanging by their breasts, burning.
The latest Muslim troll is female? Good Grief - you total loser, "yasemin."
Yasemin is a variant on "Jasmine" -- not to mention on "Yasmeen", as in the Bleeth of another Watch.
I live in Holland and voted for the PVV. Some great thoughts, analyses are now going through the media and in my head.
for instance, I can't prove whether or not this was decisive, but in the run-up to the election Prime Minister Balkenende distanced himself from the PVV, saying it would be difficult to form a coalition, and also saying in effect that it was despicable what the PVV did, in discriminating against a whole minority. As if Islam was a race, and not a choice.
And he and many people like him insisted that freedom of religion is sacrosanct and the constitutional state must guarantee absolute equal rights to all. But in such discussions I pointed out that the constitution is not meant as a suicide-pact and that we still must be intolerant to the intolerant. Or those who openly align themselves with intolerant theocratic enemies of our constitution. In intention. And that the unity of Muslims and their threat/ danger is much higher than many in the Western world seems to anticipate. Even if they admit that in a part of Islam and among a part of the Muslims there indeed is a anti-democratic intention.
Only now I start to realise how great it was that the otherwise sympathetic, honest, good-hearted, capable prime-minister and his party were hugely chastised for siding so scathingly against the PVV. I like to think that this was their major mistake, because we see around us that many leftist parties are sympathetic to the Muslims against movements like the PVV and Jihad Watch etc.
But the traditional voters for the Christian-Democratic party of Balkenende are in their heart not leftist, they only bought into the general leftist cozyness with Islam versus Islam-critics. And when it became clear that Balkenende and CDA (Christian Democratic party) chose against PVV en that it sided with the leftist parties concerning integration, the former voters on the CDA in huge numbers left that party in favor of PVV or the VVD-liberals. Who already had shown much more tolerance towards the PVV and good criticism on Islamic supremacy-tendencies.
For the future; The VVD is now to try to form a government-coalition. They can go for one with the PVV and the defeated CDA, or with centre-party D'66 and the Greens and The Labour party (all 3 much against Islam-criticism).
BUT, it is said, that if the PVV is yet 4 more years in opposition, that it will mushroom, at the cost of the VVD. Only when the PVV is allowed to govern, there is a chance that it will lose voters and keep voters with the VVD. So this is a win-win-situation for people like Jihad-Watchers, it seems to me.
I also voted for the PVV as I have done in the years before. It's typical that jihadist ask us for respect and call themselves a large minority. Yet in their own country respect is only given to the jihadist majority, the way they tread others is probably best described as treating them as "untermensch". They appeal to us on our own terms, "surely we will not be as uncivilized as the government of their own country" and "where is our neighborly christian love".
Up to now they have gotten everything for free in western society which has been a devastating policy. They have to get used to the fact that respect has to be earned. I don't think that they ever will understand this. In their opinion respect and power is not given, it is taken. And if current policies would continue they will take everything from us, incl. our self respect.
Since America will needed to borrow money from Saudic Arabric to bail Europe out of it fincial mess. My term would be all anit-islam policalism are dismiss from they post, than permant ban on all anti-islamist parties and far rightwing parties no new anit-islamist or rightwing parties can be form. All ban on wearing the headscraft and Islamist clothes are ended permant.
Some people feel that muslim countries can force European policy by financial means. I think we should stop exporting water to these countries if they have demands. Arabs always use their oil as a weapon. I think we should use water as ours... The Europeans demand for right wing policy will only increase and as we live in a democracy, that is what we will get in the end...
Defender of Islam, the fascist said: "My term would be all anit-islam policalism are dismiss from they post, than permant ban on all anti-islamist parties and far rightwing parties no new anit-islamist or rightwing parties can be form. All ban on wearing the headscraft and Islamist clothes are ended permant."
Gee, Defender your "term" is fascism, removing from ofice people who DARE to disagree and are anti-islam?
Thank you, you perfectly illustrates how Islam cannot stand disagreement and where ever Islam rules, there is FASCISM. HI hope many see your comment and it helps them realize what Islam really is.