Indonesian justice minister: Jihadists shouldn't attack in Indonesia, but should go set off bombs in Israel

Mackie, just a little slip-up. For a few seconds, he forgot his taqiyyah.

DJM

I thought of reflecting the poor display of Taquiyyah by the Justice Minister after the posting also.

Here are two reports that show how justice work for christians and moslems in indonesia

HRW's torture reports may have been fabricated: Govt
Dicky Christanto, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | Fri, 06/25/2010

The Justice and Human Rights Ministry plans to take action on reports alleging the torture of Ambonese and Papuan prisoners arrested by the National Police's Detachment 88 antiterrorist squad, for having waved banned flags at rallies.

"If the torture really occurred, report it to me," Justice and Human Rights Minister Patrialis Akbar said Thursday, adding that torturing people, particularly prisoners, was a serious violation of human rights that could not be justified under Indonesian law.

However, according to Haris Azhar from Kontras, Human Rights Watch (HRW) had reported the case to the Directorate of Correctional Institutions under the ministry, but the report had been rejected.

On Wednesday, HRW released a report in Jakarta stating that Detachment 88 had tortured people arrested during peaceful rallies in Maluku and Papua. The report was based on interviews with more than 50 political prisoners that were conducted between December 2008 and May 2010.

According to human rights activists, the police had tortured prisoners to get them to renounce their separatist activities, such as hoisting the banned Papuan Morning Star flag and the South Maluku Republic (RMS) flags, in public.

The report shows that a school teacher, Johan Teterisa, was sentenced to 15 years in prison for treason for his role in the unfurling of an RMS flag during a traditional cakalele war dance performance in Ambon, Maluku, on June 29, 2007.
Teterisa was beaten repeatedly with sticks and kicked by police officials until he lost consciousness, it says.

In Papua, Filep Karma was sentenced to 15 years in jail in May 2005 for treason, for allegedly organizing a pro-independence rally and trying to raise the Morning Star flag in 2004. He is now suffering from prostate problems that require surgery, but the prison clinic has told him to just drink water and rest.

Teterisa and Filep are among 10 prisoners who were featured in the report which narrates their stories, including the torture.

"Why was an antiterror squad deployed to handle cases of people being charged with treason as political prisoners?" Haris told The Jakarta Post, adding that the government had formed Detachment 88 to combat terrorism in Indonesia.
"Why should the government send Detachment 88 to areas where there are no threats of terrorism?"

He said he believed the existence of terrorist threats in Indonesia was being used as a pretext for arresting people displaying banned regional flags in public places.
"The law on treason *under the Criminal Code* is often abused by the authorities," he said, adding that waving flags could not be construed as intending to establish a state separate from Indonesia.

Haris said the government should ensure that its law enforcement officers did not use violence because Indonesia had ratified the United Nations Convention against Torture in 1998.

"Indonesia claims to be more democratic, but has failed to accommodate the right to express political aspirations," Haris said. He added that the government should accommodate this right instead of criminalizing political activists.
Haris criticized the government saying it was supposed to be more responsive in handling such cases.

With regards to the allegations of torture, Patrialis said "this is what HRW claims, but we don't know whether the incidents really occurred."

The above deals with how christians are treated, now see how moslems are treated.

Patrialis Akbar, Indonesia's justice minister and Human Rights, is responsible for administering the government's policy of "deradicalising" members of Jemaah Islamiyah, a group that has long been engaged in an armed conflict with the government.

Terrorist ‘Rehab’ a Failure:

The government’s deradicalization program aimed at getting convicted terrorists to renounce violence has been declared a failure in the wake of this week’s arrest of suspect Abdullah Sonata, who was released from prison in 2009 on good behavior.

“We have to say that generally the program has failed,” Minister of Justice and Human Rights Patrialis Akbar said on Friday. “There are convicts who have successfully been re-integrated back into society, leaving behind their old ways. But successes are few compared to those who remain unreformed.”

“It is extremely difficult to reform terrorists because we are trying to destroy years of indoctrination and misinterpretation of Islam,” he said. “We will solicit help from psychologists, experts, criminologists and clerics to determine the best means to reform hard-core terrorists.”

Sonata, 32, was arrested on Wednesday for his suspected involvement in a plot to carry out Mumbai-style attacks in Jakarta that police said targeted several high-profile figures, including President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.

Police also worry that the prisons themselves may act as breeding grounds for terrorism. A suspect killed in this week’s raids, former soldier Yuli Harsono, 33, became radicalized while serving jail time for smuggling ammunition, police said.

“Abdullah Sonata was a convict. He served time. Inside prison, did he improve himself?” National police spokesman Edward Aritonang told reporters.

It is time to find a “new system or method, so the counseling for prisoners truly works and prisons don’t become schools for radicalization,” Edward said.

Local terror deprogramming efforts have been led largely by police, unlike similar programs in Saudi Arabia, Malaysia and Singapore. The main thrust behind the police efforts is getting prisoners to give up violence and co-opting them as informers. While officers provide financial help to reformed inmates and their families, little is done to challenge their radical religious beliefs, such as the goal of imposing Islamic rule.

Since the 2002 Bali bombings, analysts credit a security crackdown that has netted nearly 600 militants for keeping terrorism in check. Of those, only 20 are considered reformed and actively working with police.

There have been some success stories, most famously Nasir Abbas, a former Al Qaeda-linked militant who helped train the Bali bombers. After his 2004 release from prison, he became instrumental in helping hunt and arrest several of his former comrades.

But the list of disappointments is long. Bomb-maker Bagus Budi Pranoto was in the deradicalization program while serving a four-year sentence for his role in the 2004 Australian Embassy bombing in Jakarta. He helped carry out last year’s attacks on the JW Marriott and Ritz-Carlton hotels in the capital.

Sonata was arrested in 2005 for possession of weapons and for hiding Noordin M Top, the slain terrorism mastermind.

Behind bars, Sonata was viewed as a shining example of how criminals can change. “He was a nice person, cooperative with our rehabilitation program,” said Noor Huda Ismail, executive director of the Inscription Peace Foundation, established in 2008 to turn terrorism inmates around. “But in the end, he was a failure.”

Evidence clear more than anything. I believe that they have such courage since UN and some western countries also blindly approve such attitude. Welcome to dhimmi world...