Islamic scholar in UK offended by turkey bacon

"It could well lead towards eating the real thing."

The question is, why is this a story on the BBC at all? If Rod Adlington wants to produce turkey bacon, why should it be a controversy for anyone? The unspoken subtext of this article seems to be that Adlington should stop producing this product if Naveed Ashrafi's opinion wins out in the Islamic community. So what if the non-Muslim "pork-free market" and "the slimming market" wants turkey bacon? Apparently if Muslims don't want it, no one else can or should have it either. That Islamic supremacist conclusion is the only justification for this story; otherwise neither the BBC nor anyone else would care what Rod Adlington raises on his farm.

"Coventry farmer defends bacon substitute for Muslims," by Philip Churm for the BBC, June 18 (thanks to Twostellas):

A Coventry farmer has insisted he is reacting to demand from traders in trying to give Muslims a taste of pork by producing bacon-style rashers from halal-slaughtered turkeys.

Rod Adlington's attempts to imitate the meat, which Muslims cannot eat because of their religion, has seen a Muslim scholar voice concerns that it could lead to people eating real bacon from pork.

The turkey farmer told BBC Asian Network he was reacting to requests from convenience stores he supplies to and said they wanted a "really good turkey bacon".

"We kept being asked for it and so we decided to produce it," he added.

"There's a want for the product for the halal market, for the pork-free market and for the slimming market."...

Maulana Naveed Ashrafi, a Muslim scholar from Blackburn, said he was concerned as to where eating the turkey bacon rashers could lead to for other Muslims.

"It can ultimately lead to people who only eat halal food ending up eating the real bacon - bacon from pork," he said.

"The Islamic opinion on this subject would be to avoid eating such foods which have a remote resemblance (to pork) because it could well lead towards eating the real thing."

However, Dr Haifaa Jawed lectures in Islamic Studies at the University of Birmingham, said she did not believe there was a problem in eating bacon-style turkey rashers....

"If there is no bacon in that form of food or, if the meat is Islamically slaughtered, it should be ok."

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Deep thoughts from the Muslim "community."

Wow, Islamic faith is so easy to sway, so say their scholars. One whiff of turkey bacon is going to send the whole Muslim community out for bacon and eggs, and BLTs, oh no, there will be chaos on the streets, murders, rape, bombings... oh wait, they do that already.

Again, hurt feelings and hurt sensibilities, so easy to offend Muslims and their so called "scholars" come to the rescue. Like the Boob-quake guy, jeeze, when will we and them learn...

Soon infidels will not be allowed to even cook bacon, as the delicious smell wafting into the noses of muslims may drive them mad for pork!

I'll have bacon with a side of bacon!

So they're worried about turkey bacon seducing the faithful into eating pork. What about all the turkey sausages, turkey cold cuts, turkey bologna, etc? And all the soybean fake sausages and hams? And the other ersatz pork products? I was once persuaded by a vegetarian friend to try a fried falafel patty, which he assured me tasted just like spicy breakfast sausage; it didn't, and I've never tried it again.
And what about the non-alcoholic beers and wines? Should they also be banned, to avoid tempting Moslems to try the "real thing"?
After banning trivial things like fake bacon, the Moslems will move on to more serious matters, like banning anything that might question their religion, and tempt them to try the "real thing" -- in the West, this would most likely be either Christianity or secularism. So all public manifestations of Christianity, such as the ringing of bells, holiday processions, crosses and signs on churches, would have to be eliminated. Then there's education: most of modern science could no longer be taught, as it conflicts with the Koran. Likewise the pre-Islamic history and languages of presently-Islamic areas (such as Egypt, Persia, Syria, Mesopotamia) could no longer be studied or taught: that might lead believers to wonder how such high civilizations -- higher in most cases that the Islamic "civilization" that succeeded them -- could have been achieved without Islam.
Pity poor Islam: such a shallow and childish belief-system that the mere presence of fake bacon on the supermarket shelf threatens it.

It could well lead towards eating the real thing.

Actually, just this once I find myseslf agreeing with a Moslem Scholar. And this is tough for me to admit as a pork producer, but intellectual honesty must prevail.

*** 3:19 ***

For example, it is a well known fact that if you take a hit of pot, in a matter of months you'll find yourself nodded out in an alley somewhere with a needle hanging out you arm.

"If there is no bacon in that form of food or, if the meat is Islamically slaughtered, it should be ok."

Dr Haifaa Jawed forgot to add "inshallah", just in case. Or perhaps she did, inshallah.

Minutiae. The religion of minutiae.

Superstitions, obsessive compulsive. I wonder if there were several personalities ....in addition to the master and the hand puppet.

Clear thinking people:

He made the turkey bacon halal...

"There's a want for the product for the halal market, for the pork-free market and for the slimming market."...

So the Muslim market is one of three markets he is trying to reach. He is a good business man - actually. But the turkeys had to be halal slaughtered in order to satisfy that portion of his market.

And yes - I do think it is ridiculous for them to fear fake bacon...But it tends to be a religion of fear and control so it is no surprise...

Luckily there was a voice of reason from a woman:

"...However, Dr Haifaa Jawed lectures in Islamic Studies at the University of Birmingham, said she did not believe there was a problem in eating bacon-style turkey rashers....

"If there is no bacon in that form of food or, if the meat is Islamically slaughtered, it should be ok."

I think Mohammed's gift was he clearly saw the world around him, he identified the one thing that thrived in the arab world and reproduced it on a larger scale. I think he's Lord of Shit Flies.

Joey, in a word..BRILLIANT

This is the same rationale that keeps Christians from being able to build or repair churches or prosyletize or ring church bells.

If they get a taste, they might want more and leave Islam in the dust it was born from.

Just another day at the totalitarian nanny punishers' office.

Hmmm. Nanny punishers. Not what I was going for...

One may try with turkey, but there ain't no fakin' bacon.

Once again, we see how proponents of Shari'a attempt to influence the behavior and mores of non-Muslims, giving the lie to the assertion of many taqiyya-spewing Muslims that Shari'a does not affect non-believers. Stealth jihad proceeds apace.

Yet again, the Mohammedan Mob, the sharia-pushers, are trying to force upon non-Muslims in the UK, the Rules for Dhimmis.

Here are some of those Rules, as set out in in the Reliance of the Traveller, the Umdat al-Salik.

"o11.5
'...non-Muslim subjects are obliged to comply with Islamic rules that pertain to the safety and indemnity of life, reputation, and property.

'In addition, they:
'(1) are penalized for committing adultery or theft, though not for drunkenness;

'(2) are distinguished from Muslims in dress, wearing a wide cloth belt (zunnar);
'(3) are not greeted with “as-Salamu alaykum”;
(4) must keep to the side of the street;
'
(5) may not build higher than or as high as the Muslims’ buildings, though if they acquire a tall house, it is not razed;
'(6) **are forbidden to openly display wine or pork**,
'(A: to ring church bells or display crosses,)
'recite the Torah or Evangel aloud,
'or make public display of their funerals and feast-days {nota bene - there goes Mardi Gras, and Easter Parades, and May Day and May Queens and Maypoles and Morris Dancing, if Europe is Islamified - dda};


''(7) and are forbidden to build new churches." END QUOTE.

There it is, rule number 6: the dhimmis "are forbidden to openly display wine or pork".


And looks like we must add 'turkey bacon' to the long, long list of The Things That Offend Muslims.

http://amboytimes.typepad.com/the_amboy_times/2007/02/the_list_of_thi.html

FEBRUARY 12, 2007
The List of Things That Offend Muslims

"The Islamic opinion on this subject would be to avoid eating such foods which have a remote resemblance (to pork) because it could well lead towards eating the real thing."

He's claiming it's the 'islamic opinion ', whatever that
is , but of course it's HIS opinion - made up on the spot and designed , like a lot of their 'opinions' , to be the opposite of what we believe .
Why don't they leave us alone and mind their own business -FO back to their muslim countries and just spread their misery among themselves ?

Oops! That takes the veal bacon off the menu in the Emirates Business Class lounge in Dubai.

These people who live in but don't like the West and our eating habits should take an early flight back to some islamic paradise or other. Don't be surprised at the BBC, or `al Beeb' as it often called. They are leading the field in dhimmitude!

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