Pamela Geller and I will be hosted by The Way TV and Mr. Joseph Nassralla this afternoon at 4PM Pacific, to respond to what Keith Olbermann said on his show.
The Way TV wants to take the opportunity to clear up the media's false narrative on the 911 mega-mosque protest.
Anyone can watch the show via the website www.atvsat.com -- live streaming.
Here is Joseph Nassralla's statement again:
Dear Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer,I am Joseph Nassralla, a Coptic Christian activist from Egypt and founder of The Way TV, a Christian Satellite TV station.
I attended the 10,000 person protest rally against the building to the ground zero mosque which took place at ground zero in NY on Sunday June 6th. We Coptic Christians wanted to express our full support to your initiative and to this important rally.
There was a minor incident at the rally that was blown out of proportion, when my partner, Mr. Karam El Masry, and I were distributing material with some Quran verses and we were also speaking Arabic thus we were mistaken by a few people in the huge crowd, for being Muslims infiltrators trying to disrupt the event. This misunderstanding was clarified when we explained who we were and that we are there to support the crowd against the building of the mosque. I was a little frustrated initially for being identified as a Muslim infiltrator, but was glad that the issue was resolved later. My partner, Mr. El Masry, was even able to freely speak to the crowd after our identity was clarified. He explained how Christians are tortured, killed and oppressed in Egypt at the hands of Muslims who are encouraged to persecute Christians from the pulpit of mosques by Muslim preachers.
The reason I am writing to you, is because I am very disappointed in the mainstream media who used this minor incident to make a blanket generalization about all the attendees of the rally as Muslim haters. This kind of generalization was unfair to the good American people who legitimately stand against the building of a mosque next to ground zero and who are against Islamist agenda in the US. I am very well aware of such an agenda which has destroyed the Christian and Jewish existence in the Middle East.
The same mainstream media who denounces painting all Muslims with a broad brush, is doing the same thing they claim to stand against. They shamelessly use our incident to paint with a broad brush that everyone in the rally was a Muslim hater. I want to make it clear that we are not haters of Muslims, but we are against the Islamist agenda in America, the same agenda that drove us out of our homeland Egypt. We have the right to expose Muslim hate and oppression against us, the minorities in the Middle East who are oppressed on a daily basis by the Muslim majority. This mosque should never be built next to ground zero, it is an insult to the memory of the 3000 fellow Americans.
We did not mean to cause any misunderstanding at the rally, on the contrary, we came to support you and your organization. We come from a Muslim country where we suffered from Muslims and the Islamic Shariaa ourselves. That's why we felt burdened to attend this rally and flew for 9 hours to be part of it.. We do support you with our heart and soul, and will always support you and everyone who is opposing Islam. We do honor Mr. Robert's invitation to attend your next rally in September, God's willing, and are looking forward to seeing you there.
We have come to America to seek refuge from the oppression of Islam and expose to the American public what kind of instigation we suffered at the hands of hateful Muslim preachers who incite the worshiping crowds to burn our homes, kidnap our girls and suppress our freedom to practice our religion. We will never allow media misrepresentation to stop us from our mission.
Yours truly,
Joseph Nassralla
What time?
May 25, 2010
Mosque Unbecoming
M. Zuhdi Jasser
FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor M. Zuhdi Jasser is the founder and Chairman of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy based in PhoenixArizona. He is a former U.S. Navy Lieutenant Commander, a physician in private practice, and a community activist. He can be reached at Zuhdi@aifdemocracy.org.
In order to prevent misunderstanding, Coptic people should be given front seat at any SIOA rally and presented at the beginning explaining their predicament.
Jasser is cool and all, but I think that he has "missed the boat" also, because he chooses to wish away the violence in the koran, and the violence that Mohammed was. He is always going to be out side of main stream Islam. An anomaly.
I wish that there were actualy a moderate Islam to be found, but...
Jasser will at one time learn, if he has not already done so, that Islam, once taken on, is akin to the Shirt of Nessus, the killer of Hercules. Once you put it on, you're dead, spiritually.
Jasser may have good intentions, but far too many of those in the sway of the Islamic cult have entirely different ideas of what can and cannot be done with or to Islam. And one of those ideas is that Islam canNOT be re-interpreted. As Robert has pointed out, the Gates of Ijtihad are closed, thereby foreclosing the possibility of "reforming" Islam. In other words, what we see today of Islam is what we are going to get.
"Ijtihad (اجتهاد) is the process of arriving at a decision on a point of Islamic law through study of the Qur'an and Sunnah. Most Muslims consider the gates of ijtihad to be closed -- that is, independent study of the Qur'an and Sunnah are discouraged, and Muslims are instead expected to adhere to the rulings of one of the established schools of jurisprudence (madhahib, مذاهب). The gate of ijtihad must be reopened if there is ever to be any genuine Islamic reform: "Therefore it is said that 'the door of ijtihad is closed' as of some nine hundred years, and since then the tendency of jurisprudence (fiqh) has been to produce only commentaries upon commentaries and marginalia."
"That's from Cyril Glasse's New Encyclopedia of Islam. Cyril Glasse is a graduate of Columbia University and a practicing Muslim."
From Robert's post of 03/30/09, Shhh! Don't talk about "freedom" and "tolerance" in front of Muslims! You might offend them!
What you say is true. Here is Pamela interviewing Jasser.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/05/jassers-jihad.html
Still, for a Muslim to say this about the Ground Zero mosque, and to renounce the MBs is extraordinary.
". . . I wish there were more people like you [Dr. Jasser]. It didn't happen. I would not agree with [Dr. Jasser] about Islam, but I wish there were more like him."
Geert Wilders
http://www.jihadwatch.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/br0nc0s/managed-mt/mt-search.cgi?search=Dr.+Zuhdi+Jasser&IncludeBlogs=1&limit=20
I didn't post this so much to tout Dr. Jasser, but to show there is another angle to the the Ground Zero Mosque story.
If Keith Olberman hadn't so eager to act childish, he might have noticed this.
"If Keith Olberman hadn't (been)so eager to act childish, he might have noticed this."
No acting here..Olbermann is the quintessential jackass little girl in a man's body who should be hung by his testicle with electrodes until almost dead..Rinse and repeat..Now that's entertainment..So many Olberparts to choose from..
..and Mr. Nasralla (Joe?), thank you for being a good survivor. You are proud strong and brave..and God be with you..Sir.
Witness how this piece by Jasser astoundingly reveals the typical logical twists and contortions an indoctrinated muslim makes in an attempt to either deliberately lie in order to falsely promote islam or to simply be able to maintain their delusional state themselves. Anyone equipped with a brain can see through the smoke and confusion of his writnigs.
Consider the following comments Mr Jesser makes:
1)“I am an American Muslim dedicated to defeating the ideology that fuels global Islamist terror – political Islam”
Ok but what ideology fuels “political isalm itself Mr.Jesser? Is it not exactly what fuels you and all muslims, the ideology of islam! So in reality you are just promulgating and helping spread the same poison, thereby one has to conclude that either you are lying or are being intellectually dishonest.
2)“Should think less about teaching Islam and "our good side" and more about being American and fulfilling our responsibilities to confront the ideology of our enemies”
And what is that “ideology of our enemies “ Mr. Jesser, once again is this also the ideology you also follow as well, the ideology of mohamed possibly.
3) “They seem to conveniently view 9/11, al Qaeda and every manifestation of militant Islamism as simply a public-relations problem for "Muslims in the West."
Isn’t this precisely what you are doing, a PR campaign obfuscating the ugly truth that what the problem here is are the actual tenets of islam.
4)This is not about the building of a mosque or a religious facility. It is not about religious freedom. This is about a deep, soulful understanding of what happened to our country on 9/11”
Specifically what is that soulful understanding that you claim it is all about? What about the murderers of the innocent Americans, and understanding that islam inspired them? Yes the same evil brainwashing you espouse yet so softly Mr. Jesser.
5)American Muslims will be better served if this project is built further away from Ground Zero and focuses on leading a reform effort..”
Tells again, as you do numerous times where the focus should be, you Mr. Jesser first focus on the morally repugnant behavior of your idol prophet as it relates to the ideals of our Judeo-Christian heritage her in the West.
“This center is trying to change the narrative of 9/11 – to diminish what happened at Ground Zero. That can only weaken us against the very real threat of Islamist radicalization “
6)Here again he tries shifting our attention by the false claim that the real threat is “Islamic radicalization” , no the real threat , the more fundamental cause driving us unto eternity by the assault of isalm is islam itself and unless the quran undergoes profound editing anyone following its tenets is complicit with the enemy killing many of us, beleivers of the quran, muslims.
Thanks, that was an interesting deconstruction.
I think he is trying to distinguish himself from the Muslim Brotherhood, Tariq Ramadan, and Ibn Taymiyya type of Muslim when he talks about enemies, and ideologies.
Workers of New York Unite!!......union and non-union.........refuse to work on this disgusting mosque (in Arabic mosque is 'masjid' meaning, "place of battle") near Ground Zero. Out of respect for your city, the victims of 9/11, your troops and Vets and your country. No workers, no mosque...................(readers: please pass this on and post on any and all websites. We can stop this insult)
Dr. Jasser might be a very good human being. But, if he is potraying a good (westeran idea of 'good') muslim at the same time, he does contradicting his own faith. For example, if you were to ask him, does he consider muhammad to be the 'perfect man'? If he doesn't, what happens to the sunnah and the hadith? If he does, what, for example, happens to the beheadings? Muhammad beheaded many a victims.
I suggest Dr. Jasser jump to our side.
I am sure there are Muslims who are in good faith, who have not studied or contemplated their religion well or who are not aware of Muhammad's doctrine of abrogation (i.e. that allah changed his mind and that the earlier, peaceful suras are superseded by the later, violent suras). As such, they are red herrings distributing misdirection, division, and confusion to non-Muslims. It is up to us to politely point out the truth about Islam and to those who ignorantly defend it. As the Christian (original, not rewritten by Muhammad) Bible says, we must rebuke our brothers when they sin or we are as guilty as they are.
"Workers of New York Unite!!......Out of respect for your city, the victims of 9/11, your troops and Vets and your country"
Wake up New Yorkers! Do not help build a monument to the ideology which has served to make all of you targets for indiscriminate death! How many more dead do you want to sacrifice for the sake of sissing up to islam. Do it for the memory of the desperately trapped and burnt people who where your neighbors and familiy members in the 1993 or 911 or the many planned attacks which have been directed at you, wake up!