Muslim Brotherhood-linked backers of Staten Island mosque go on offensive, call opponents racists and bigots, but don't address their real concerns

In the video above, I questioned the MAS reps involved in this sale about their ties to the Brotherhood and related matters, and got, as you can see, a windy non-answer.

In reality, the MAS is the Brotherhood in the U.S., and the Brotherhood in the U.S. is a subversive organization:

"In recent years, the U.S. Brotherhood operated under the name Muslim American Society, according to documents and interviews. One of the nation's major Islamic groups, it was incorporated in Illinois in 1993 after a contentious debate among Brotherhood members." -- Chicago Tribune, 2004

The Muslim Brotherhood "must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah's religion is made victorious over all other religions." -- Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America," May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, U.S. vs. HLF, et al. P. 7 (21).

And here we have a play for victim status based on the old shopworn charge of racism and bigotry, with no attempt whatsoever to deal with the real substance of the objections to the MAS and to this sale.

"Backers of Staten Island mosque go on offensive," by Amy Padnani for SILive.com, June 23 (thanks to Twostellas):

ISLAND, N.Y. -- Those opposed to a planned mosque in Midland Beach are consumed by bigotry and hatred, a Muslim American Society leader said yesterday.

Ibrahim Ramey, the human civil rights director for MAS' advocacy arm, the MAS Freedom National, accused some Staten Islanders of engaging in a "ferocious attack" against Muslims based on stereotyping and prejudice.

"When stripped of all the propaganda, innuendo, and flat-out lies, the issue is simply one of religious bigotry and hatred," he said, in a letter issued to the media.

Ramey went on to refer to residents' attitudes as contrary to what America stands for: "Is this really happening in America -- a nation that boasts of its religious tolerance and pluralism? Sadly, the answer is, yes." [...]

Ramey's letter went on to defend MAS as a peaceful organization, highlighting the group's affiliation with Religions for Peace, The Interfaith Alliance, Interfaith Workers Justice and the Temple of Understanding. He called upon people friendly and respectful toward all religions, who he referred to as the "better angels of the interfaith community," to stand up in support of MAS' mosque proposal.

Bill Owens, a Midland Beach resident who has been very vocal in his opposition to MAS, said the group was wrong to characterize residents as full of hatred.

"We're not racist or bigots," he said. "The five firefighters from our neighborhood, they didn't stop at the door of the World Trade Center and ask what sex, color and religion they were. They went into the building and perished. St. Margaret Mary's just had their eighth-grade graduation and there were Muslim children who graduated. We're not anti-Muslim, we're anti-terrorist. Everybody says we're Islamaphobes. No, we have a 'terrorphobia.'"

Owens went on to say that residents received a lot of support at their rallies protesting the mosque -- even from Muslims.

"We've had Muslims come up to us and say, 'Don't let this organization move in here, they're evil.'

"We're doing what we think is right in this neighborhood. Someplace, you have to make a stand. The only thing evil needs to be successful is for good people to do nothing."


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Here's the text of Ibrahim Ramey's letter:

In Staten Island, New York, there is a ferocious attack, by some members of the community against Muslims who are seeking to purchase a property that would be used as a mosque and an Islamic center. The prospective seller, a local Catholic church, is now under intense pressure to back out of the original plan to sell the property, while anti-Muslim agitators have converged on the Staten Island neighborhood, claiming that the Muslim organization that is seeking to buy the property is a front group for terrorists, criminals, and other assorted "Anti-American" agents of mayhem and destruction.

Is this really happening in America -- a nation that boasts of its religious tolerance and pluralism? Sadly, the answer is, yes.

It does not matter to many opponents of the neighborhood mosque that the national organization supporting the project-the Muslim American Society -- is a legal, registered not-for-profit corporation with local chapters in some 35 states. They don't care that there are no indictments of the organization made by Homeland Security or the Department of Justice. And it makes no difference to them that this same group, while vilified by Islamophobes across the nation, still supported significant material contributions to the largely Christian victims of Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and the tragic earthquake in Haiti earlier this year....

Yes, but is it a Brotherhood entity?

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Muslims do not give charity, as do people of other religions, to those who are not of the same faith - that is, to non-Muslims. Or rather, they are permitted, not as an act of charity in the Christian sense, of fellow-feeling and sympathy with one's fellow man, but rather to ostentatiously give what may appear to be charity, in order to further the cause of Islam.

The most famous example of this was that check written by the Saudi prince with the facial tic, whatshisname, the one who, very soon after the 9/11/2001 attack in which 15 of the 19 participants, and all of the funding, and much of the inspiration, came from Saudi Arabia, wanted in as public as way a possible to grandly present a check to Mayor Giuliani for ten million or so. Giuliani, no fool, and recognizing it for the obvious P.R. it was, simply ripped it up -- also in the full view of the public.

A very tiny amount of Muslim aid went from some Middle Eastern country -- it may have been Qatar -- but quite noisily was given, to some victims of Katrina, and long after the fact. And in Haiti, after the Israelis had immediately arrived and were the first at setting up hospitals, a Muslim group sent money along with those who were intent on dispensing that money in an operation that included a good deal of Da'wa. There is not a single report of any attempt by any Jewish or Christian aid group to attempt to proselytize or otherwise propagandize among the recipients of aid when they arrive after a natural disaster -- no reports of Americans doing so in Aceh,in Indonesia, after the tsunami, or in Pakistan after the earthquake, or of the Israelis behaving that way in when they arrived quickly with aid after the earthquake a few years ago in Istanbul.

But the o attempt here to attempt to use the pathetic and sinister "aid" given by Muslims to curry favor and win p.r. points for future use here should be seen for what it is, and it should properly disgust.

I think that it's very telling that he would think opponents would would accept his reasoning regarding the DHS and the DOJ. This is the same DOJ that refuses to even utter the word jihad in regard to obvious islamic terror attacks.

Does he think we're going to wait until holder's DOJ declares mas a terror group? With reams of irrefutable proof that mas is a front group for the mb at their disposal already and no action?!!

Just because the American DOJ lacks the basic cognitive reasoning skills necessary to properly assess the malignancy of mas and the plethora of other venomous muslim mafia groups legally operating in the US today doesn't mean that the public is that dense!!

I'd like to see those forms (990's?) they're supposed to submit as 501(c)3s or other tax-exempty organizations showing their contributions to these events.

" And it makes no difference to them that this same group, while vilified by Islamophobes across the nation, still supported significant material contributions to the largely Christian victims of Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and the tragic earthquake in Haiti earlier this year....'

Who's the one tracking religion, Ramey? Christian and Jewish charitable giving doesn't distinguish or care or track the religion of the recipients of their charity.

Zakat was meant to take care of widows and orphans of fallen warriors. It's temporary of course, because under sharia, women and children are property of the men responsible for them. Eventually a brother or uncle or cousin is found to "own" them.

This Muslim woman in Georgia who is part of "Organizing for America" is the head of a "charity" that helps victims of domestic violence. Except, for the several months I've been lurking on their listserv, the only aid they ask for is donations for recently arrived Somali families who need support and money, aid for Muslims living in Haiti, and toys for needy families to give during the Eids.

Not once, other than an advertisement for a meeting, have I seen a single dollar or donation go to anyone other than a Muslim, let alone the purported reason for the organization in the first place. They held a required board meeting (to retain their 501(c)3 status over an internet radiocast.

If they want to reject polygamy, slavery, subjugation, jizyah, and all the other elements of Islam that are not compatible with the Constitution, fine. But that won't happen. We should no more tolerate these people and their oppressive ideology than we would having those non-Mormon Latter Day Saints fundamentalist compound people who married little girls and engaged in polygamy and slave labor.

We wouldn't allow the Aryan Nation to put a community center in the middle of a community and we certainly shouldn't allow Muslims to build in a community. Don't like it? Change your religion and get back to us. Lots of innocent Muslims caught in the crossfire? Too bad. Change your religion and get back to us.

Where is the money coming from, Ramey?

"contrary to what America stands for" hey! Just like Islam!

"it does not matter to many opponents of the neighborhood mosque that the national organization supporting the project-the Muslim American Society -- is a legal, registered not-for-profit corporation with local chapters in some 35 states. They don't care that there are no indictments of the organization made by Homeland Security or the Department of Justice." Correct! because those facts are irrelevant to the point at hand, which is that the MAS, whether violent or not, is an ISLAMIC SUPREMIST ORGANIZATION.

"Is this really happening in America -- a nation that boasts of its religious tolerance and pluralism? Sadly, the answer is, yes."

What does religious tolerance have to do with the fact that we see your Trojan Horse for what it is, sweetie?

"Is this really happening in America--a nation that boasts of its religious tolerance and pluralism?"
HAPPILY, the answer is YES!

Here's a deal for you, Ibe: We'll stop boasting about "pluralism" and you stop with your seditious mosques. There, a nice win-win for America. Patriotic American that you are, I'm sure that you agree, right, Ibe? Right?

News flash, Mr. Taqiyyah Sunrise: decent people don't want you in their neighborhoods! Take a little tip from Ray Charles: Hit the road, Jack--and doncha' come back no more!
NO MORE...


I remember in Haiti.....the Muslims did show up and promptly starting passing out Qur'ans....no food or medicine...but Qur'ans......part of their "invite them to convert" thing...

Pulsar, there was a good reason for that. You see, there was this shortage of toilet paper...

And I wonder how many of those free Qurans ended up being used to light cooking fires?

Haiti has a low literacy rate - officially, 48 %, but 'functional literacy' is guesstimated at 20 or 30 %. Furthermore, most people, especially the poorer folks, speak Haitian Creole rather than standard French. So the odds are pretty good that a French translation of the Quran, handed to your average poor Haitian would be completely incomprehensible; and would, indeed, wind up as a: cigarette paper b. firelighting paper c. toilet paper, depending on how thin and soft the pages were.

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