Muslim states want UN to take tough action against "Islamophobia" in the West

If Muslim states really want to end "Islamophobia" in the West, here is an easy way they can do it without going to all the time, trouble and expense of running to the UN and trying to get laws passed that are at variance with the settled law and custom of Western non-Muslim states:

1. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
2. Renounce definitively not just "terrorism," but any intention to replace the U.S. Constitution (or the constitutions of any non-Muslim state) with Sharia even by peaceful means. In line with this, clarify what is meant by their condemnations of the killing of innocent people by stating unequivocally that American and Israeli civilians are innocent people.
3. Teach Muslims the imperative of coexisting peacefully as equals with non-Muslims on an indefinite basis.
4. Begin comprehensive international programs in mosques all over the world to teach against the ideas of violent jihad and Islamic supremacism.
5. Actively work with Western law enforcement officials to identify and apprehend jihadists within Western Muslim communities.

If Muslims do those five things, voila! "Islamophobia" will no longer hold sway among Westerners!

Note also the pot-kettle aspect of these self-righteous denunciations of the human rights situation in the West by countries with such stellar human rights records as Pakistan.

"Muslim states seek UN action on West's 'islamophobia,'" by Robert Evans for Reuters, June 16:

GENEVA, June 16 (Reuters) - Muslim states said on Wednesday that what they call "islamophobia" is sweeping the West and its media and demanded that the United Nations take tougher action against it.

Delegates from Islamic countries, including Pakistan and Egypt, told the United Nations Human Rights Council that treatment of Muslims in Western countries amounted to racism and discrimination and must be fought.

"People of Arab origin face new forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related forms of intolerance and experience discrimination and marginalisation," an Egyptian delegate said, according to a U.N. summary.

And Pakistan, speaking for the 57-nation Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC), said the council's special investigator into religious freedom should look into such racism "especially in Western societies".

Acting for the OIC, Pakistan has tabled a resolution at the council instructing its special investigator on religious freedom "to work closely with mass media organisations to ensure that they create and promote an atmosphere of respect and tolerance for religious and cultural diversity".

The OIC -- and its allies in the 47-nation council including Russia, China and Cuba -- dub criticism of Muslim practices and linking of terrorism waged under the proclaimed banner of Islamism as "islamophobia" that pillories all Muslims.

Never mind, of course, that it is Muslims, not non-Muslims, who have done that "linking" of terrorism to Islam by explaining and justifying their terrorist actions by reference to Islamic texts and teachings.

BOUND TO PASS

Diplomats say the resolution, which also tells the investigator to make recommendations to the Human Rights Council on how its strictures might be implemented, is bound to pass given the majority the OIC and its allies have in the body....

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Ha! We're doing something right, since all the crying Muslims. Time for us to increase the pressure.

Why don't we in the West demand parity on the building of churches and synagogues in the Arab world, especially in Saudi as they do in the US?

What is happening -- a few decades late -- is that non-Muslims in the West, having allowed Muslims into their countries, by the hundreds of thousands and even millions, have been treated to quite a spectacle of Muslim behavior, including incessant demands for special treatment, fake claims of victimization, unwillingness to recognize the outrageousness of the behavior of many Muslims in the West, including their taking full advantage of every possible benefit offered by welfare states, and in addition fiddling the system, threats against apostates, threats against indigenous non-Infidels, terrorist attacks, more than 15,000 of them, by Muslims against non-Muslims throughout the world, attacks never believably disowned, in true horror, but rather once in a while tepidly, using sly formulations that do not fool everyone, to denounce them, and to engage in behavior that, every which way, raises legitimate suspicions and fears among Infidels, suspicions and fears that are confirmed when, to educate themselves, those Infidels look into, and read, and even study intently, the texts of Islam -- Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira. Muslims appear to think that they can forever keep those texts, and the tenets that arise from them, and the attitudes of Muslims, and the atmospherics of Muslim societies, forever off-limits to Infidel prying eyes and minds. But it just can't be done.

And despite wilfully ignorant and pusillanimous ruling classes, the peoples of the Western world are finding out about Islam, and the more they find out, the more justifiably alarmed they become. It is only the ignorant who are not alarmed, or those who insist that the evidence that is all around them cannot possibly reflect reality, for if it did, why then....what then?

But it does.

And the question is: What then?

There is no longer a Western bloc, and there is no longer a Communist bloc. The only bloc at the U.N. is the Arab-Islamic bloc. It is that which for several decades has more and more been calling the tune, forcing the U.N. and its subsidiaries, such as the Human Rights Committee or Council in Geneva, to spend much of its time on one issue: perfidious Israel and the local Arabs who constitute the shock troops of the violent Jihad against Israel, those people who since June 1967 have been called "the Palestinian people" and who have managed not only to appropriate to themselves, despite the many unearned trillions of dollars possessed by rich Arabs, to have fully half of all the refugee money allocated by the U.N. to be dedicted to the "Palestinians," which of course does great harm to all the other, far more legitimate, refugees around the world.

The U.N. is the most corrupt and corrupting of institutions. And it has been, for quite a while, largely a puppet of the Arab-Islamic bloc. And nothing the West has done to date shows signs of being able to shake that bloc, or to weaken its insidious power.

Are we 'Muhamophobes because we condemn killing, raping; divorcing at the slightest provocation; slavery, the death penalty for leaving or not believing what Muhammadenism believes; abusing and molesting children (pedophilia); forcing non-Muhammadens and Muhammadens to believe error against their will; forced prostitution; demonizing hate speech; suicide, prejudice, racist elitism (Arab, black or any other), terrorism, bombings, genocide, mass murder; crushing dissent; stifling spiritual maturity and growth; killing the saints and holy men and women of various religions; mob violence and hysteria, vandalism, deception, idolatry, piracy/looting/thievery, anger, jealousy, abuse, sexism, harassment, spiritual and common ignorance and insanity, global conquest and domination, death threats, intimidations, bullying, violence, arrogance and other practices and emotional states.

Muhamophobia touches on many normal and/or health fears.

What is needed is the reverse of what these morons are asking. The world needs to strengthen its position and responses to all those who believe the Koran is the infallible word of 'Allah' and that Muhammad was some saintly prophet or messenger to be emmulated. Muhammadenism out of hand. The tide must turn at all levels. Anyone who reads the Koran out loud should be arrested and placed in solitary confinement for instigating barbarism and criminal behavior. All those Muhammaden representatives in the U. N. should also be confined for hate speech and spreading terrorism and social disease.

Muhammadenism was started by one psychopath speaking to his wife and relative. It must be reduced to zero participation for humanity to be safe because of this relatively small spark that has set the world on fire. This wolf in tattered sheep's clothing must be erradicated while it is still possible. If the entire world ends up like Iran or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia there will be no one left alive to object to all the violations of human nature and development.

The only way to eliminate Muhamophobia is to completely eliminate Muahmmadenism from actual practice or tear out all the pages in the Koran, Hadith and Muhammad's biography that condone and compel its adherants to barbarism and inhumanity.

Oh, my middle finger is so stiff it hurts...

1. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.

That's all well and good, but then why focus on the speck in our neighbor's eye while ignoring the beam in our own? OBL killed 3,000 in the name of Islam. The US killed 1.3 million in it's irrational response, killing those that had nothing to do with the 9/11 atrocity. Why does Robert Spencer get so excited about someone like Faisal Shaizad, who tried to string together firecrackers and gasoline, and ignore the daily bombing of Muslims in the Middle East by his own government? Islamophobia maybe?

2. Renounce definitively not just "terrorism," but any intention to replace the U.S. Constitution (or the constitutions of any non-Muslim state) with Sharia even by peaceful means. In line with this, clarify what is meant by their condemnations of the killing of innocent people by stating unequivocally that American and Israeli civilians are innocent people.

Are Palestinian civilians innocent people? The problem with renouncing terrorism is that this would mean renouncing Israel's US sponsored terrorism. Israel's terrorism makes Islamic terrorism look small, and this makes sense because Israel just has superior funding and power. Traditionally the more powerful a state the more extensive it's terrorism. The Soviet Union was like this. Israel is like this. And of course the United States would be the world leader since WWII. Just consider the saturation bombing of civilians in Vietnam for their crime of voting the wrong way in a free election. Why does Robert get so excited at the miniscule terrorism of Muslims and say nothing and in fact cheer on the terrorism of his own government and it's clients? Islamophobia maybe? This is why the UN is on the right track here.

3. Teach Muslims the imperative of coexisting peacefully as equals with non-Muslims on an indefinite basis.

Which nations find themselves on the side that has been advocating peace in Palestine for the last 30 years? Which nations find themselves on the side rejecting peace for the last 30 years? Every Muslim state voted for peace. Note who opposed.

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/another-close-vote-at-the-united-nations/

4. Begin comprehensive international programs in mosques all over the world to teach against the ideas of violent jihad and Islamic supremacism.

Or we could teach the US to stop invading Muslim countries, which prompts the violent reaction according to multiple independent sources, including Robert Pape in his book "Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism". You don't have to be a Muslim to react violently to an invading army. Christians have become violent towards Israeli occupying forces in Lebanon. Secularists do the same.

5. Actively work with Western law enforcement officials to identify and apprehend jihadists within Western Muslim communities.

Or prosecute American political leaders that lead us into wars on packs of lies. An invasion was expected to increase support for political Islam and to increase terrorism. The data show that this is exactly what has happened. These lies have reduced the security of all Westerners. You might just die from terrorism. The solution is to stop killing Muslims. They'd stop killing us.

Well, I was going to post...but Hugh and Patrick said it all for me! Beautifully stated, gentlemen, and thank you!

And arius, you are correct, sir--they're starting to run scared! And they don't command the higher-powers of reason to question if THEY THEMSELVES just might be their OWN worst enemies! (Introspection is, apparently, haram?) Under the duress of reason and truth these emotional eunochs will crack like hard-boiled eggs...

Never mind, of course, that it is Muslims, not non-Muslims, who have done that "linking" of terrorism to Islam by explaining and justifying their terrorist actions by reference to Islamic texts and teachings.
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That's the point it's all justified in the Qu'ran and the hadiths. But when Mohammedans want to justify their claims to more mosques and want to persuade us that they're peaceful people they always claim that certain passages are wrongly translated and/or they're taken out of context. All that happened on Monday night when I was in a small town in upper Bavaria where the local imam told his fans - the Bavarian citizens - not the adherents of his faith wonderful fairy tales about Islam. These people think that imam is such a nice and peaceful chap, he could never do anything wrong and yet he has been observed by internal intelligence for three years by now.

If the UN could be "tough" on something..contempt of islamists or "islamophobia" would be it. I do have the syndrome but I'm happy to announce that it is incurable. I suggest the UN work on another charity...maybe a home for reformed jihadis.

"Muslim states want UN to take tough action against "Islamophobia" in the West"

The UN? What do they think the UN can do? No one is going to dictate to me what I can and cannot say about Islam or about anything else, especially those crooks.

Maybe a little less bombing, swinging sharp objects, throwing rocks, hanging children, and whining would help Muslim states improve their image in the world.


1. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
2. Renounce definitively not just "terrorism," but any intention to replace the U.S. Constitution (or the constitutions of any non-Muslim state) with Sharia even by peaceful means. In line with this, clarify what is meant by their condemnations of the killing of innocent people by stating unequivocally that American and Israeli civilians are innocent people.
3. Teach Muslims the imperative of coexisting peacefully as equals with non-Muslims on an indefinite basis.
4. Begin comprehensive international programs in mosques all over the world to teach against the ideas of violent jihad and Islamic supremacism.
5. Actively work with Western law enforcement officials to identify and apprehend jihadists within Western Muslim communities.

If Muslims do those five things, voila! "Islamophobia" will no longer hold sway among Westerners!

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No, that will not allay the Islamo-wariness of Westerners -- at least not among the intelligently and coherently wary Westerners. What will allay it is for all, or at least a vast majority of Muslims, to do one thing:

1. Leave Islam.

OBL killed 3,000 in the name of Islam. The US killed 1.3 million in it's irrational response, killing those that had nothing to do with the 9/11 atrocity.

There you go with those big numbers again...How do you know it was 1.3 million? How do you know it was not 1.4 million or 1.1 million, or one hundred thousand million...?
You are about as credible as a one million dollar bill...
But weren't you the guy who was claiming that the poor picked on Palestinian people were 'starving'? You got a lot of lies backed up...but they won't fly here...

1. No...You are kufr...you deserve indignation and more...

2. Can't do...That's actually three in one...Denounce terrorism...no it's one of the main tools, Sharia will be installed...and only Mahoundians are innocent...

3. No way...That would erase the borders between dar al-Islam and dar al-harb, polluting Islam...

4. Forget it...Islamic supremacy cannot be other than that...

5. Absolutely not...Turning Mahoundians over to kufr cops is haram...


Jon sez:

" The solution is to stop killing Muslims. They'd stop killing us."

So...it back to problems and solutions...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/01/fitzgerald-when-it-comes-to-islam-please-stop-this-problem-and-solution-nonsense.html

Jon sez:

"Why does Robert Spencer get so excited about someone like Faisal Shaizad, who tried to string together firecrackers and gasoline, and ignore the daily bombing of Muslims in the Middle East by his own government? Islamophobia maybe?"


hmmmm...seems like those "daily bombings of Muslims in the Middle East".....just happen to be caused by other Muslims....and likewise in Pakistan and Afghanistan, Somalia, and elswhere where Muslims congregate....seems they just can't get enough Islam....or not the right brand of Islam...


Islamophobia probably...but not in the sense that you are probably trying to allude to....

"Jon" mentions "daily bombings of Muslims in the Middle East." What can he possibly be talking about? The Sunnis blowing up Shi'a Arabs, and vice-versa, or Arabs attacking Kurds? Or Muslim Arabs attacking Copts in Egypt, or Assyrians and Chaldeans in Iraq?

The Americans in Iraq are now trying as fast as they can to withdraw from an impossible situation -- no doubt flattering themselves that they have "accomplished" their "mission" (a mission that made no sense, and that will become clear as soon as the Americans have themselves cleared out).

I agree with "Jon" on one thing: the Americans, and all other Infidel troops, should pull out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and monitor from the air, and from lands afar, the situation, and trying to keep the necessary surgical strikes, or surgery, as non-invasive as possible. Leave Muslims to fight Muslims, do not give them tens of billions or billions or millions or indeed anything at all in aid, and try to limit the contacts between non-Muslims and Muslims to an absolute minimum.

This will create the ideal conditions for Muslims being forced to confront the fact -- that we can grasp and talk about, openly, until we are overheard by Muslims -- that the political, economic, social, intellectual, and moral failures of Muslim peoples and polities are a result of Islam itself. Ataturk understood this and tried to limit the power, because he knew he could not do away with altogether, Islam.

We can grasp this, and repeat this, endlessly, and it will be hard for intelligent Muslims -- first a little, thence to more -- to deny this, because, you see, it happens to be true.

Islamophobia is a smokescreen, and it's what *truthophobes* hide behind ...

Time to revisit another Hugh Fitzgerald classic, from the archives.

'Islamophobia? Really?'

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/12/fitzgerald-islamophobia-really.html

Those lurking or posting here who live in New York City, and those who may live in, or be readily able to visit, Geneva, may like to print off Hugh's essay, in pamphlet form, and find ways of distributing it far and wide: by a guerilla poster campaign; by accidentally-on-purpose leaving it behind, along with the discarded newspapers, in train or bus; by slipping it in between the pages of that arty magazine-for-customers-to-read that they have just finished perusing whilst absorbing a caffeine hit in the classy coffee shop, in New York City, or in Geneva, not so very far from those places where the UN holds forth.

It would go very nicely into Italian, Spanish, French and German - is there a translator in the house? Russian, too, and Hebrew...I think our Israeli contributors might find French, Russian and Hebrew versions of Hugh's pamphlet, to be of use.

How about an illustrated version? Would Bosch Fawstin have the time to dash off some suitable graphics? Or...Gravenimage? Her gentle subtlety - as exhibited recently in her drawing of Mohammed ogling little Aisha on the swing - would, I think, partner Hugh's prose style very well.

The UN might as well pass a resolution denouncing the thought crime of self-preservation so they can cover all the bases.

I know, 'why don't they all just get the F**K out of THE USA!!!

A few more items on the subject of 'Islamophobia'.

First, from this thread,

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/05/cair-propaganda-on-islamophobia-spread-by-voa.html

a French poster called scaramouoche, writing in 2006.

'Definition of Islamophobia from The New Devil's Dictionary:

'"Islamophobia": The slur true believers and their useful idiots employ when they want to discredit those who tell the truth about Islam.

- Posted by: scaramouoche at May 25, 2006 2:18 PM

Now, from Phyllis Chesler - her friend Lorna Saltzman's sarcastic quiz: 'Are you an Islamophobe? Take this test to make sure'.

http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/08/26/are-you-an-islamophobe/

And from Australia, Paul Sheehan's March 30 2009 article, 'Islamophobia is a Fabrication'.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/islamophobia-is-a-fabrication-20090329-9fjm.html?page=-1

(Tell me if the link doesn't work: it worked right now, when I copied and pasted it; I have just re-read the article on the Sydney Morning Herald website).

Sheehan has not yet dared to abandon the 'tiny minority of extremists' furphy; but the body of his article, if read slowly and carefully, still constitutes a stunning indictment of the way in which Mohammedans have conducted themselves toward non-Mohammedans in Australia.

What some people seem to conveniently forget is the fact that we in the west have been told for decades that the reason Muslims hate us is due to the fact that we support Arab dictators in the Middle East whom are guilty of committing crimes against humanity upon their populations, acts which if were perpetrated in the west would cause riots in the streets. Muslims exploited the duplicitous nature of our policy in supporting regimes that commit various heinous acts of violence upon their populations. Muslims will also complain if we in the west use sanctions against these despotic regimes, claiming that sanctions only hurt the people. Not the people in power. We in the west have been reticent about getting involved in the Middle East for fear of changing the staus quo.

Muslims also complained that one of the reasons they hated us is because we left in the 80's, and the place fell to ruin without the Russians under the Taliban.

Naturally after 9/11 Bush wanted to break this cycle, and give Muslims what they had been begging us for years. The chance to determine their own destiny though democratic means, to exercise their Islamic free will to create their own societies, free of these tyrants which had been plaguing them for so long. Bush gave Muslims what they had been asking for lo these many decades.

What have we learned from all of this? Muslims side with the Taliban, and Hamas even as they beg of us to rid them of despotic dictatorships, Muslims elect people to their new democratic governments that violate the most basic ideals of freedom of conscious by openly advocating that their governments should kill apostates from Islam. Muslims will complain that we got rid of Saddam, even when they used the fact that the west had a relationship with Saddam, and at times supported Saddam as a reason to hate us.

We were told that Muslims want open free societies, the evidence being that they come here to flee from harsh dictatorships in the Middle East, but as we now know Muslims want Sharia here as well. They want to undermine our "dirty house" from within.

What should we do with what we have learned? Don't listen to Muslims, if you want to live in a rational place, don't live in the Middle East, or any place Islamic. If you want your country to be a rational place don't draw upon Muslims as immigrants, don't allow Muslims to interject their opinions into our affairs if you want rational outcomes.


Here is Geert Wildres plan for the Netherlands. Interesting topic.

2. Fighting Islam and mass migration
This is arguably the main point in the PVV programme, it claims the most pages in the election programme. The party argues that Islam is a totalitarian creed, geared towards dominance, violence and oppression. There is no such thing as moderate Islam, according to Geert Wilders. His party has come up with the following solutions to fight the ‘ Islamisation’ of the Netherlands:
* A full immigration ban for people from Islamic countries.
* No new mosques and the closure of all Islamic schools; a ban on burqas and the Qur’an.
* A ban on headscarves in health care, education, government institutions and subsidised organisations; and a tax on wearing headscarves (described by Mr Wilders as a 'head rag tax')
* European Union: the Netherlands should leave the EU if Turkey joins.
* Foreigners: either find a job or get out.

3. Dutch interests paramount in foreign policy
The Freedom Party writes that Dutch interests and the fight against Islam should be the key principle in Dutch foreign policy. Israel plays an important role in this fight. According to the party programme: “Israel is fighting for us. If Jerusalem falls, Athens and Rome are next. This is why Israel is the central front in the defence of the West. It is not a territorial conflict, but an ideological one; a conflict between the reason of the West and the barbarism of Islamic ideology.” the PVV has come up with the following ideas to improve Dutch foreign policy:
* Limiting development aid to emergency aid.
* Scrapping the passage on 'maintaining the international rule of law’ from the Dutch constitution.
* Reviewing Dutch participation in international treaties.
* The Dutch government referring to Jordan as 'Palestine' in future, because it has existed as an independent Palestinian state since 1946.
* Relocating the Dutch embassy from Ramat Gan to the Israeli capital: Jerusalem.

10 more main points
The Freedom Party programme has ten more main points, such as democratisation, which – mysteriously – includes a measure barring people holding dual nationally from holding government office or being elected to parliament or local councils. The PVV wants 10,000 additional workers in health care, and calls for an end to the Islamisation of care. In education, students will once again be expected to learn the national anthem, and all schools are to fly the national flag. The chapter headed “choices for a better environment” tells us that global warming is simply the latest hype which we can safely ignore, and nuclear power plants are to end our dependency on ‘fossil fuels and foreign energy’.

How receptive would the OIC be to passing a resolution denouncing religiously mandated hate crimes? Shar'ia Law, for some reason, jumps to the forefront...

Right, like we're forcing them to STAY? LOL!

Stop muslim immigration now

Deport those muslims already here

Tighten security so they WON'T COME BACK

There, problem solved!

The same demands ought to be made of Feisal Abdul Rauf:

1. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.

2. Renounce definitively not just "terrorism," but any intention to replace the U.S. Constitution (or the constitutions of any non-Muslim state) with Sharia even by peaceful means. In line with this, clarify what is meant by their condemnations of the killing of innocent people by stating unequivocally that American and Israeli civilians are innocent people.

3. Teach Muslims the imperative of coexisting peacefully as equals with non-Muslims on an indefinite basis.

4. Begin comprehensive international programs in mosques all over the world to teach against the ideas of violent jihad and Islamic supremacism.

5. Actively work with Western law enforcement officials to identify and apprehend jihadists within Western Muslim communities.

And one final question of Feisal Abdul Rauf: do you belief that 9.29 and 9.5 are the immutable words of Allah, and that it is incumbent on all Muslims, as that learned theologian the Ayatollah Khomeini has said, to make war on Infidels?

Right about the time that Saudi Arabia stops being so every-other-religion-opohobic... that's a start...

Hugh, your post would make a great full-page ad in a New York newspaper. Title it, "Six Questions for Faisal Abdul Rauf." Head it with, "Sir, are you prepared to publicly answer the following questions?" Then your six points, starting with the words, "Are you willing to..." Make certain that the only acceptable answers are simply 'yes' or 'no.'
End it with the statement that if the insidious imam can't or won't publicly answer, then he's made his own case for no mosque at Ground Zero...

I would like to see deleted everything in the Quran that denounces unbelievers, encourages hatred towards them and meticulously describes their subjugation. I think that would only be in the interest of mutual harmony, tolerance, bridge building, togetherness, interfaith and dialogue.

But I suppose there is little chance of that:

United Nations Commission on Human Rights, 60th Session controversy according to Wikipedia.

The UNCHR was criticized for failing to apply the charters standards to all-member states. When issues such as the stoning of women, honor killings, mutilations, and the apostasy death penalty were raised during the 60th Session of the UN Commission on Human Rights in 2004, Muslim officials rejected "any criticism as interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state."

The United States should announce to the U.N. that if they pass the IOC resolution, The U.S will leave the U.N., and the U.N. will be physically ejected from the USA. They can go to Timbuktu or wherever.

Of course with our current Islamophile president, that is not going to happen. But he is not going to be there forever.

McCain had one good idea, form a union of democratic states and keep the IOC and its member states out.

We do need a tougher stance within the UN, we need someone to challenge the IOC directly.

"Organisation of Secular Democratic States" would be an obvious one to put up against the OIC. But looking at the Human Rights Commission being taken taken over by islamic dictatorships I see there´ll be little chance of success.

Why are the democracies unable to stand up to the obvious hypocrisy of muslim countries??? Why are we supposed to ignore the realities of their holy writ and law?

We need a grass roots movement comprising all democratic and secular ideas in order to strengthen the Western position within the UN, we need to tell our politicians that we see no future in their tiresome acceptance of muslim hypocrisy.

It is time the Muslim nations of the world start showing respect to the Free West our culture and laws.

It is time the Muslims show respect to Christians and Jews living in Dar al Islam.

Until that day Muslims can expect to see Islam and Mohamed criticized and mocked by free people.

I am sick of Muslim whining about "Islamophobia" which doesn't exist. A phobia being an unnatural fear of something.

Islam is a totalitarian ideology invented by a seventh century sexually deviant political despot, and it deserves absolutely no respect.

Any ideology that has in its dogma the acceptability of domestic abuse, pedophilia, and polygamy deserves only contempt.

They have momentum in Europe and are gaining it in USA. Their money source (petro) will continue flowing so why would the Muslim world slow its attempt to reestablish the caliphate? They won't. There is nothing wrong with Islam, they are acting exactly as the Koran instructs. Use stealth tactics when in minority, but when the power swings, start with all the weapons; demands for "tolerance" is one of the first employed. We're already past that here and now they are seeking Sharia law in some places in USA. They are not leaving or backing down; the Alien in the White House has rolled out the carpet. so we better be ready to give the hard answer back in every way and means possible.
You can learn about a people by studying their leader. I highly recommend this FREE 295 page PDF downloadable ebook by Sujit Das titled: Unmasking Muhammed: The Malignant Narcissist and his Grand Delusion Allah.
https://acrobat.com/#d=WsvZBY1sY0pLKbrDQmGZyA

It is front page news as Israel attempts to beat back the forces of Islamic expansionism. They refuse to accept the fate of 200 thousand women and children that were hacked to death after being raped in Sudan/Darfur for refusing to accept sharia law. The battle to defend itself against a billion Koran inspired Muslims will be bloody, but Israel is left with no other choice.

Hugh, great post. But I must question your premis of the Palestinians being "Refugees" How can that be? Is it even possible to be a refugee in your own territory? Can an American be a refugee in America? No. This is merely a play on words so that they may continue to scam the western world (USA in particular) and filtch us out of "humanitarian aid." Passing through the UN is no problem as the OIC practically owns the UN.

No, of course they are not genuine "refugees" if that word is defined correctly. They were not "fleeing," starting in the fall of 1947, from the scene of battles predicted by the Arabs themselves, as people "fleeing persecution" or "death" at the hands of others. The Israelis have not persecuted any Muslims whatsoever, and everyone knows that, and indeed, one of the things that some West Bank Arabs are trying desperately to get is permission to live permanently in Israel lest, in the future, they be forced to live under rule by fellow Arabs and Muslims.

And I don't use the word "Palestinian" as a noun but as an adjective that can modify a number of words, including "Arab." There are Egypptian Arabs and Egyptian Copts. There are Algerian Arabs and Algerian Berbers. There are Moroccan Arabs and Moroccan Berbers. There are Syrian Arabs and Syrian Kurds. There are Iraqi Arabs and Iraqi Kurds. And so on. And there are Jews and Arabs in Israel, including the territories that were assigned by the League of Nations to be part of the territory for the future Jewish National Home (renamed by the Jordanians as "the West Bank"), and there are Gazan Arabs too. It is the Gazan Arabs and the "West Bank" Arabs (note that some denounce Israel for using "Biblical" placenames such as Judea and Samaria -- but why should they object if these names were in continuous use for thousands of years? Must we all be like those who renamed Saigon as Ho Chi Minh City or Burma as Myanmar? Why? And for that matrter, isn't the toponym "Gaza" also from the Bible? Why no objection to that?

I hope you won't fall into the propagandistic trap of using the word "Palestinian" as a noun -- as even many unvigilant Israelis do, helping the propaganda effort of those who would destroy them -- again.

"..If muslims do those five things, voila!" IF a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his butt.

I am really sick and tired of muslim's **KUFAROPHOBIA**!! Why don't we all insist they stop doing atrocities against us because their koran, sharia laws, imams have KUFAROPHOBIA!

"I am sick of Muslims whining about "Islamophobia" which doesn't exist. A phobia being an unnatural fear of something.

Islam is a totalitarian ideology invented by a seventh century sexually deviant political despot, and it deserves absolutely no respect.

Any ideology that has in its dogma the acceptability of domestic abuse, pedophilia, and polygamy deserves only contempt."

Right on, Ice Star. Oh, don't forget the "acceptability" of mass-murder, as Warlord fake profit (spelling intentional) Mo was a mass-murderer beheader of Jews and Christians.

The most pitiful and pathetic peoples' on this planet are Muslims. Whining Crybaby "Jon" included.

Whaaaaaaah! Oh the poor widdle muzwims! BOO-HOO!

Meanwhile ordinary and peaceful Muslims in Muslim countries continue to murder Christians, just as their prophet told them to. Islamic states continues to arrest and beat Christians to death for being Christians. Any Muslim who converts to Christianity, is likely to be beaten to death by his own family, or by the community, or in the final analysis by the Islamic state.

So let us blame the West for Islamophobia.

We are living at a time when mania is abroad. Why this is so, is hard to know.

Muslims can declare themselves victims to rationalize jihad under Sharia law. Muslims, especially Muslim males, are guaranteed privileged status under Sharia law, so they declare themselves persecuted when they are not so privileged. In such a system (Islam) wherein Muslims can legally take what they want, making slaves of non-Muslims and even killing them and confiscating their possessions, the emphasis is not to live and work peacefully in society. Islam declares that there will only be "peace" when the whole world is subject to Sharia law (i.e. subjugated to the will of Muslim men). We will never be able to dictate "peaceful" mosques or just eliminate a few bad apple jihadists and restore order. We would have to rewrite the Quran to do that.

Why do they hate us? Because "Misery loves company" and hates all who are not as miserable as they are.

They don't have free speech and refuse to accept the fact that others refuse to give it up.

They are of the mind-set that if they say it enough, everyone will come to believe them. But as A.L. said, "You can fool all of the people some of the time (when has this been done?) some of the people all of the time (Muslims), But you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

We are not fooled and not afraid. "Perfect love throws fear outside." (the real Prophet!)

You wrote -

"Islamic states continues to arrest and beat Christians to death for being Christians. Any Muslim who converts to Christianity, is likely to be beaten to death by his own family, or by the community, or in the final analysis by the Islamic state."

Yes.

Here is an article from 'New English Review' blog, reporting on a talk given by Canon Andrew White, of the Anglican church, who is the vicar of St George's Church in Baghdad.

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/27974

From that report:

'A question was asked about the status of Christians in Iraq currently.
[Canon White answered] "I baptised 13 adult Muslims some time ago, and the following week 11 of them were killed"...

[Canon White was asked] 'How could you baptise someone when it is so dangerous for them?'

'The person asking the question used the term 'signing the death warrant' of the 11 men who died.

[Canon White replied] "Another Muslim man came to me seeking baptism.

"He knew he faced death so I told him to study for another year and see how he felt then. He told me that he wanted to follow Jesus, come what may.

"So we prayed and as I prayed I was shown the story of Philip and the Ethiopian eunuch. Philip didn't send the Ethiopian away for a year, so I baptised this man there and then.

"When Muslims come for baptism it is done in absolute secrecy.

" If one person knows, even if they only tell their wife, they are then in danger.

"The 11 who died told someone, the 2 who didn't kept the secret even from closest family." END QUOTE.


"It is not Islam and Muslims who are creating problems, actually it is British society creating problems for the Muslim community."

lol, that's funny! Mohammedan - take your evil, supremacist, totalitarian, expansionist, brutal, barbaric Islam and your over-breeding 10+ kids to a Muslim family and go reside in your Islamic countries where you belong.

You don't know anything about God - all you know is a non-existent pagan moon deity that commands mass-murder of all non-Muslims (Koran).

Now, call me any name you want, esp. your coveted "racist" insult - fine, just as long as you know that it's Islam and Muslims' that are racist, bigoted, and hate-filled.

Britain has every right to defend herself and her culture from you mass-breeding polygamous child brides' Barbarians, just as it has every right to defend herself against Fascism and Nazism. However, it doesn't look like she's doing that, so goodbye Britain, hello Britain-istan. A horrible, rotten, shame, an atrocity.

The free world is punished for 40 years of ignorance

* TVprograms disclosed Islamist hate teaching in USA&UK
Islamism indoctrination has a long history and gained worldwide advantage by:

1-Using modern media reaching Muslims teaching terror
2-Using Mosques to spread Islamisation&recruit activist
3-New tactics- terror of individuals without organization- including children and women
4-Using human rights values and expression freedom to be protected
links:
TheTheo political roots of islamic terrorism " www.yuksel.org/e/law/terror.htm)
The roots of Islamic terrorism " http://pol-check.blogspot.com/2010/01/roots-of-islamic-terrorism-wahhabis-of.htm

Following examples of Islamist hate preaching on media:
· Undercover Mosque http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undercover_Mosque
· The rapid spread of Islam in America http://www.harunyahya.com/rise03a.php
America at a crossroads http://www.pbs.org/weta/crossroads/about/show_homegrown_producers.html

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