And that is just one example described below in the ongoing wave of Muslim persecution of Christians in Pakistan -- our modern, moderate "friend and ally." "In 'Talibanized' Pakistan Christians are victims of yet more attacks," from Asia News, June 10:
Khanewal (AsiaNews / Agencies) - There are still cases of religious persecution in Pakistan, a large majority Muslim nation where religious minorities are often victims of abuse and violence. In Punjab a group of 14 Muslims attacked a Protestant pastor and his wife who was expecting a baby. In a district of the same province, the Muslim village chief has ordered 250 Christian families to flee their homes because "Christian women and girls have reported repeated sexual abuse." In Sindh province, finally, a couple was indicted for blasphemy and threatened with the death penalty.
International Christian Concern (ICC) reports that on 3 June in Sahiwal, Punjab, 14 Muslims attacked a Protestant pastor, his pregnant wife and his brother. At the base of the attack were charges of "evangelizing" against Mumtaz Masih, pastor of the Full Gospel Church of Pakistan and his wife Noreen. Imam Ahmed Maqsood led the punitive expedition, injuring the man's legs, and his wife in the stomach and hand. His brother was assaulted while trying to help his relatives. The couple complained to the police, but the police do not want to open an investigation.
Jonathan Racho, ICC chief for South Asia, strongly condemns "the violence against pastor Mumtaz and his family." He adds that Pakistani Christians are victims of assault "because they express their faith in Christ", but the faithful want to stay "with vigour" in their homeland "despite the persecution."
In Khanewal district, also in Punjab, the chief of a village with a Muslim majority has ordered 250 Christian families to leave the area because "they are too vigorously denouncing sexual violence by Muslims against women and girls". Most Christians in the area are labourers on Muslim owned land and the women domestic servants in homes. The abuses were occurring in homes, almost "daily." "Christians - denounce the displaced - are totally at the mercy of the will of Muslims."
Finally in the town of Gulshan-e-Iqbal, a suburb of Karachi (Sindh), two Christians couples must answer charges of blasphemy. A crowd of Muslims ransacked the garbage of the four, saying they had found torn pages of the Koran. The court issued an arrest warrant and the police started searches. The two pairs of Christians have abandoned the rented house and are still at large. Christian sources complain that officials have threatened the family, to reveal the place where the four are hidden. In Pakistan the crime of blasphemy carries life imprisonment or even death.
Here is yet another example of why Islam is not a religion of peace, but a religion that inspires its adherents to commit violence, physical or sexual, even murder, against non-believers. Muslims need our prayers that the true Allah (God, the Holy Trinity) will deliver them from the deception and violence of Islam.
Summer can be a bit of a silly time, and if the Israel/Iran thing clears up and there are no more flotillas we can expect the peace activists to go to Pakistan and step in to defend the christians who are being evicted.
Ha ha, oh dear.
Islam is not a religion, and definately not in the way we know religion. They come from a very ancient sect probably pre history and they are very tied to the notion of angels. Azareal, the angel of death is high on their list. They also believe in Jinns or spirits, but good and bad - this gives them an excuse that they can never be wrong - and evil Jinns must be at work. This is for the simple minded.
They are insane. Because the shrinking in the collective genetic pool within the groups of Muslims, it has given way to a multitude of mental illnesses such as sociopathic behaviour and they are pathological liars. The sociopath is such as danger to their fellow man as they are difficult to detect. They thrive on cruelty and display no conscience.
Children born to much older men are often afflicted with Autism. This is a recent finding from the medical world. They display a great capacity for violence.
Add this to a total lack of eduction, apart from the evil they learn in the Madrashes around the world. It is a boys club, for boys, by boys. Their women and children are down trodden and treated cruely. If you happen to be a Dhimmi and run into them, you will regret it. They will lie, steal and hurt you with the full backing of their Satanic Verses in the Koran. It gives them permission to perpetrate these vile actions upon us.
"There are STILL cases of religious persecution in Pakistan..." When will there be no more persecution? When they have driven all the Christians out, who will they have to persecute?
Though off-topic I had to post this again.DAVID WOOD is known to Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller,they even once called in a "Jesus or Muhammed" show(which is in youtube),Wood often posts material by Spencer on his blog(in fact he posted THIS EXACT article from jihadwatch today).That is why I think he won't mind this:
MUST SEE TV!
Beginning TUESDAY 22 JUN everyday till MONDAY 28 JUN there will be a "Jesus or Muhammad" show.
Every NIGHT at:
8:30-10:30 PM (Eastern time)
11 pm-1 am (Eastern time)
HOW TO WATCH?
Go to:
http://www.abnsat.com/abnnew/
Then on the UPPER RIGHT CORNER click on ABN LIVE to watch at 8:30 pm,11 pm.
TOP CHRISTIAN SPEAKERS(all can be found in youtube also):
1.David Wood (ex-atheist)
2.Nabeel Qureshi(ex-Muslim)
Their website is:
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/
3.Walid Shoebat(ex-Muslims,ex PLO terrorist)
4.Kameel Saleem(ex-Muslim,ex-terrorist).He wrote a touching autobiography "The Blood of Lambs:A Former Terrorist's Memoir of Death and Redemption":
http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Lambs-Former-Terrorists-Redemption/dp/1416577807/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1276374322&sr=8-1
5.James White(lots of debates in youtube)
6.Sam Shamoun,His website is:
http://answering-islam.org/
7.Mary Jo Sharp(2 debates with Muslims in youtube).Her website is:
http://confidentchristianity.com/
8.Tony Costa(smooth-taking defender of Jesus,several debates on youtube)
PLUS
Check out the bilingual English-French Christian blog(with some artices in English and French,where Martin Antoine(French) has translated much material by Robert Spencer:
http://www.avraidire.eu/
Article - Most Christians in the area are labourers on Muslim owned land and the women domestic servants in homes. The abuses were occurring in homes, almost "daily." "Christians have been asked to leave the area"
This does not make logical sense. IF the muslims really were daily enjoying the abusing the christian women - why on Pakistani soil would they ask them to leave the area and their jobs.
Think about it people, all of a sudden these muslims would have no one to abuse, and if they really were abusers this would not be in their interest.
Much of this is fabrication and a little common sense would show this to be the case. Above all it is TRUST that will allow people to live and integrate. I would ask these christians to take back any complaints and signal their desire to continue living in peace over there. All will be smoothed over with patience and trust.
Does this make sense or am I barking here?
Be quiet, evil gloating lying Mohammedan.
You know that your Mob has two conflicting urges 1. to exploit the powerless non-Muslim, minority and to make use of them (sexually, or as slave or near-slave workers) 2. to hurt them for fun, and kill them or drive them away. Sometimes the desire for immediate profit or pleasure prevails over the lust to kill, and so the dhimmis are grudgingly permitted to stay alive, so they can be *used* and abused without actually being killed; but sometimes the will to kill, to make the blood sacrifice for your hideous demon-god, overrides prudence..then the Muslims kill large numbers of their dhimmi near-slaves, and wake up next morning with *nobody* to do the dirty work.
The whole spectacle of Muslim selfishness, cruelty, greed and murderousness fills me with complete disgust.
Judging on how these people from "The religion of peace" condone the killing their own children , it is reasonable to assume that these "peaceful" and "tolerant" Muslim people; these very same people who resent being compared to cannibals and barbarians, and who hate Jews with a blood lust are also the same people that hate Christians and would harm, enslave, or kill them at the first opportunity. The Christians who have the misfortune to be born in a Muslim country must beware of the Muslims and when possible (after they are out of harms way) should tell the rest of the world of their horrible inhumane experience imposed upon them by their Muslim "inquisitors".
dumbledoresarmy - Please do not get me wrong, ifi it is the truth that would disgust me too.
I am only thinking from a logical perspective, and your rambling logic has really not helped.
Above all I am a humanitarian, and I believe that Homo Sapiens do not kill others just on whims - this is illogical. If this were the case then I would hear about this sort of thing in the West too - but I don't.
I think that we should be far more worried about what paedophile christian vicars and bishops have been abusing our children here in the west.
Oh just stop with the lies and nonsense and go away.
"they are too vigorously denouncing sexual violence by Muslims against women and girls".
Yes...Stop all that complaining...Don't you know that Mahoundians have a special dispensation from Allah (GINO)?
The 'Prophet' set records for rape that no one has yet broken, though many Mahoundians over the years have tried...
This happens to kufr women in Mahoundian dominated areas a
lot, especially if they are Christians or Jews, the worst kind of kufr...Since the Saturday people were raped, killed and run off a long time ago, it's now the turn of the Sunday people...
NO lies about christian "worship" of children
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/2043600.stm
The question has to be asked "why is paedophilia so common within the Catholic Priesthood"?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2010/03/can_catholic_church_overcome_c.html
Easy one think man.
After the Christians- atheists, then any other non-muslims.
When they are gone- any muslim that is not muslim enough.
When people are filled with hate - there is always someone waitng next in line to be the target.
Roland,
I can't make up my mind if your ingenuousness is real, or if you're just another mahometan troll.
But let's address some of your points shall we?
You wrote: "and I believe that Homo Sapiens do not kill others just on whims - this is illogical". But human beings do kill others solely on whims - police and court files are full of such cases. You must surely be aware of Jack The Ripper, Peter Sutcliffe, The Moors Murderers, Fred & Rose West and, most recently, 'The Crossbow Cannibal' and that's just UK murderers. The US and anywhere else on the planet can provide plenty of example that prove your assertion to be utterly wrong. You claim to be thinking from a 'logical perspective' but, clearly you aren't if you're incapable of recognising that logic is not the default mode of thought for most of the planet. And in the mahometan world magical, rather than logical, thinking reigns supreme and unchallenged.
You ask: "why is paedophilia so common within the Catholic Priesthood?". Actually, it isn't. Child abuse is not common in the Catholic or any other Christian priesthood. The number of clergy abusing children is a tiny fraction of one percent. Sexual interaction with children is not sanctioned in Christianity. The same cannot be said of the islamic world where all manner of child sex abuse is not only common, but actually sanctioned by the vile example of their prophet mahomet.
So, why you might ask don't you hear about the endemic kiddie fiddlng in dar al islam? I'm sure you already know the answer to this one: it's because it's the lame stream media doing the reporting. They consistently give islam a passs when it comes to anything that gives the lie to the whole 'religion of peace' schtick. The BBC are the most egregious example of this, but they're far from being the only ones. Part of the reason is the cancer of political correctness with which they're riddled, but partly it's just plain fear - the fates of Pim Fortyun and Theo Van Gogh have not gone unnoticed.
Regards
Barguest
Muslim village chief has ordered 250 Christian families to flee their homes because "Christian women and girls have reported repeated sexual abuse."
If I were a village goat I'd be getting concerned right about now.
Roland, when you want to defend evil, but have no logical grounds for doing so, your best option is diversion. Just accuse the accuser and you may be able to escape the truth by taking the offensive. This works best on people who are uncertain concerning what is the truth. It won't work here, so why don't you take your lies and just walk you defender of evil. You are as guilty as they are if you defend them.
" ... displaced ... totally at the mercy of the will of Muslims....."
@Roland
it's not logical, but it is a characteristic of people who's desire is to exert as much cruelty as possible, because that's the way you treat the unruly according to their "sacred teachings."
you've never been wandering without food and with no way to get food, or clothes;having only memory of brutality ... but once some suffer long enough, they'll turn to the "master" and seek help and do anything to get necessities to live.
Hi all:
The more I think about Obama's Cario speech, the more I realize that it was a deliberately lost opportunity to setthe record straight about Moselm contributions as well as to inform the world that the president would take policy to protect and defend religious and ethnic minorities throughout the Moslem countries.
If the Indians were really serious about protecting their interests, they'd cultivate the oppressed minorities. Same goes even more so for NATO.
xavier
" This does not make logical sense ".
I think it does - these Christians are putting the Muslims in a very bad light.
How dare the infidels call attention to this disgusting practice - it may give Islam a bad name !
It's the old "torn pages of the Koran" excuse again.
I, myself, prefer to use the Qur'an as target practice. Then, of course, it truly becomes the Holy Qur'an.
"I think that we should be far more worried about what paedophile christian vicars and bishops have been abusing our children here in the west" Posted by roland.
Why is it you don't have a single bad thing to say about Muslims? If they kill, maim, engage in deviate sex or do any other thing that is in the playbook of cannibals or barbarians to Christians (or Jews), you don't have a problem with it. You can't just call out the corruption among some Catholic clergy or other religion to justify Muslim inhuman death dealing atrocities. This tells me that you are in fact in favor of Muslim mistreatment and killing of Christians and that any Muslim atrocity is OK with you.
You don't make sense. You are illogical.
You need to get the facts and base your opinion on the facts. Don't just imagine what the facts must be based on your prejudices.
You ought to know that rapists, liars, and murderers don't necessarily act consistently or logically. So, your call to common sense combined with your refusal to acknowledge the facts indicate clearly that you are either willfully naive because that favors your anti-Christian prejudice and your pro-Islam/Muslim bias, or you are just a plain liar.
As regards the pedophile Catholic priests, they are a few in number compared to all the good priests. That may be hard for you to swallow as your anti-Christian bias is very evident.
Furthermore, these pedophile priests acted contrary to their professed Catholic Faith, whereas Muslims that molest or abuse Christian women and girls act in accordance with their Islamic Faith.
Finally, what is considered pedophilia in the West, is glorified in Islam in the form of marriage between a much older man and some underage or pre-pubescent girl. So, if you are really concerned about the victims of pedophilia (which I know you are not because of your refusal to acknowledge the victims in this article), then voice your concern to Muslims among whom such practice is acceptable.
They are not being expelled because they are being abused, but because they are "reporting" the repeated abuse. They are not accepting dhimmitude. The Islamic notion of "peace" is for everyone (Muslim and non-Muslim alike) to be under submission and compulsion to Sharia law and for Muslims to be privileged. In this case, they expect non-Muslims to shut up and take the abuse as dhimmis with only those rights the Muslims wish to grant them. That is a warped definition of peace.
Under Sharia law, Muslims cannot be executed for killing a non-Muslim, but non-Muslims can be executed or beaten or otherwise punished for "offending" a Muslim, dishonoring Islam, saying Allah, etc., etc., etc. It is part of the privilege of being a Muslim under Sharia law and the oppression of being a non-Muslim under Sharia law. That is why you see the absolute rage of Muslims at the slightest insult to Islam or Muslims, but there are very few Muslims who will dare say anything when a non-Muslim is injured or even killed.
Christian are prejuryer.
DefenderofBarbarity wrote:
Christian are prejuryer. (sic)
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Yes—surely, the fact that Muslims have been from the earliest days of Islam encouraged to treat Infidel women as sex slaves can have nothing to do with it. It must be those lying Christians, who always "prejuryer" themselves, like the perfidious "polytheists" they are.
Now, if Christians were to praise Muslims for raping and abusing women, then there would be no problem—it is not that they are alleging abuse, but that they are decrying it, that is the problem from the Muslim point of view.