Geert Wilders's International Freedom Alliance!

Geert you are the man. Every day you prove you have more courage than most people on the planet. I wish you well and this is one American who will support you!

Why do they call this man "far right", l mean when you hear and read what he has to say, he is a classical old fashioned liberal with perhaps some tendency towards conservative principles with regards to the economics. HE cherishes Western culture that has fought for and want to keep our freedom in a democratic society. why does that mean when are against islamists sharia culture makes you a "far right person"., perhaps LGF can explain lol..last part just joking.

Bravo Geert! Please don't give up! We support you 100%!

A great movement! A great hero of freedom Geert Wilders!

Ruslan Tokhchukov, Temporarily Not Enraged But Cheering.

Children raised on cultural relativity are about to see their world of lies fall apart.

YES! The sinister forces of islam are international--and to fight them the forces for FREEDOM need likewise to be international.
We're all in this thing together! Leave it to the brilliant and ballsy Geert Wilders to kick it up to the next level! Attention, muslims:
Like Robert Spencer, Geert Wilders won't give-in, won't give-up, won't be beaten. And neither will we who recognize these patriots as heroes for our time...

Dibs on being the chairman of the American branch!

Sociological progress is often difficult to measure. It usually occurs in fits and starts, with episodic back-sliding. I think this latest news is an little-noticed watershed. Geert is in the process of transforming himself from a Dutch politician to a global one. Within a decade, he will be one of the most recognizable faces in the world. Some will love him, many will loathe him, but he is destined to leave his mark on planet earth.

I continue to hope that more and more infidels across the planet are waking up to the threatening imposition that is Islam and sharia law. Islam dangerously continues to get a pass from the dhimmi class in America and the EU. Islam it not just another religion but is a complete totalitarian ideology that has been defined by numerous experts on Islam as being 85 Pct. Political.

Below are some excerpts from a speech given by Bridgette Gabriel 4 years ago and who lived the horror that is Islam as a young Christian girl in Lebanon and her words should be more important today than ever:

"An Islam that is awakening from centuries of slumber to re-ignite its wrath against the infidel and dominate the world. An Islam which has declared "Intifada" on the West.

America and the West can no longer afford to lay in their lazy state of overweight ignorance. The consequences of this mental disease are starting to attack the body, and if they don't take the necessary steps now to control it, death will be knocking soon. If you want to understand the nature of the enemy we face, visualize a tapestry of snakes. They slither and they hiss, and they would eat each other alive, but they will unite in a hideous mass to achieve their common goal of imposing Islam on the world.

This is the ugly face of the enemy we are fighting. We are fighting a powerful ideology that is capable of altering basic human instincts. An ideology that can turn a mother into a launching pad of death. A perfect example is a recently elected Hamas official in the Palestinian Territories who raves in heavenly joy about sending her three sons to death and offering the ones who are still alive for the cause. It is an ideology that is capable of offering highly educated individuals such as doctors and lawyers far more joy in attaining death than any respect and stature, life in society is ever capable of giving them.

The United States has been a prime target for radical Islamic hatred and terror. Every Friday, mosques in the Middle East ring with shrill prayers and monotonous chants calling death, destruction and damnation down on America and its people. The radical Islamists’ deeds have been as vile as their words. Since the Iran hostage crisis, more than three thousand Americans have died in a terror campaign almost unprecedented in its calculated cruelty along with thousands of other citizens worldwide. Even the Nazis did not turn their own children into human bombs, and then rejoice at their deaths as well the deaths of their victims. This intentional, indiscriminate and wholesale murder of innocent American citizens is justified and glorified in the name of Islam.

America cannot effectively defend itself in this war unless and until the American people understand the nature of the enemy that we face. Even after 9/11 there are those who say that we must “engage” our terrorist enemies, that we must “address their grievances”. Their grievance is our freedom of religion. Their grievance is our freedom of speech. Their grievance is our democratic process where the rule of law comes from the voices of many not that of just one prophet. It is the respect we instill in our children towards all religions. It is the equality we grant each other as human beings sharing a planet and striving to make the world a better place for all humanity. Their grievance is the kindness and respect a man shows a woman, the justice we practice as equals under the law, and the mercy we grant our enemy. Their grievance cannot be answered by an apology for who or what we are.

Our mediocre attitude of not confronting Islamic forces of bigotry and hatred wherever they raised their ugly head in the last 30 years, has empowered and strengthened our enemy to launch a full scale attack on the very freedoms we cherish in their effort to impose their values and way of life on our civilization.

"If we don't wake up and challenge our Muslim community to take action against the terrorists within it, if we don't believe in ourselves as Americans and in the standards we should hold every patriotic American to, we are going to pay a price for our delusion. For the sake of our children and our country, we must wake up and take action. In the face of a torrent of hateful invective and terrorist murder, America’s learning curve since the Iran hostage crisis is so shallow that it is almost flat. The longer we lay supine, the more difficult it will be to stand erect".

"This intentional, indiscriminate and wholesale murder of innocent American citizens is justified and glorified in the name of Islam."

If we're keeping score, the USA has quite certainly killed more Muslims in Iraq, a country which had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks in your country. The more brazen of your keyboard-warriors would agree with that assesment with pride.

Quick, someone tell the Muslim to go eat pork so you can feel better about yourselves.

It's not "anti-Muslim."
It's "anti-Islam."

There's a huge difference - Muslims (for the most part) are people who are **VICTIMS** of Islam.

Islam is a hateful, inhumane ideology of subjugation and death.

If it's far right to be against an ideology that discriminates against women and minorities, preaches world domination and calls for genocide against Israel, then it's very liberal to oppose the equality of women, equal rights for minorities, world peace and the recognition of Israel.
The Red Queen must write for SkyNews.

Geert is growing into his job.

Now, I have some advice for Alex Rossi of 'Skynews', on the offchance he may stumble in here to eavesdrop on the reception of his little report.

Next time you write about him, Mr Rossi, don't write " Controversial Dutch politician Geert Wilders" or "far-right politician', write "Gutsy Dutch politician Geert Wilders", or, 'the brave politician' or 'the feisty Dutchman'.

And there's actually nothing wrong about being 'anti-Muslim; it's very like being 'anti-Stalinist' or 'anti-Maoist' or 'anti-Nazi'. The Mohammedan gestalt consists of a lot of passive enablers who provide the sea within which the jihadist terror raiders, the sharia-pushers, the sharia-enforcers, swim and from which, continually, they emerge.

You might like to mention, too, Mr Alex Rossi, next time you write on this topic, that Mr Wilders lives 24/7 with the real possibility that a Muslim assassin may come out of the blue at him, bent on murder. Just as a Muslim assassin emerged out of the mass of Muslims in the Netherlands, to murder Theo Van Gogh - by shooting, stabbing, and attempted beheading - in broad daylight on a sunny morning on a busy street in Amsterdam, all because Theo Van Gogh had helped an apostate from Islam to make a film containing honest and factual criticisms of what sharia, Islamic law, does to women.

And, Alex Rossi: your surname is Italian. You ought to be cheering Wilders on, in light of your own long-ago ancestors' experiences on the receiving end of Jihad.

Research the origins of the phrase, 'mamma, li Turchi!'. Do some research, too, on 'the Martyrs of Otranto' and 'the battle of Lepanto'. Read Oriana Fallaci's books, and Paul Fregosi, 'Jihad in the West'. And allow yourself to realize that that feisty Dutchman Geert Wilders, one of the bravest and most clear-headed people presently in politics in modern Europe, is right to view large-scale Muslim immigration into any free non-Muslim country, and the huge Muslim presence currently within European countries, as a clear and present danger; as a Fifth Column of Jihad.

Pursuant to my posting above: I wrote it before clicking on the link to read the entirety of the article.

I see there that Mr Rossi *did* mention that Mr Wilders has received death threats...but neglected to mention that these death threats have been issued by Muslims, and also neglected to mention just how many of them there have been, and that the threats continue.

"The aim of the alliance is to end immigration of people from Muslim nations."

Awesome! ...I fully support this plan!!

To paraphrase the late George Carlin, "They're just words".

I still remember from my school days most of the essentials of English grammar. For instance, you have: nouns, adjectives, verbs, adverbs, subjects, objects, predicates, suffixes, prefixes, and conjugations like present/past/future tenses.

The mainstream media now uses words to describe those that are aware of the workings of Islams as: racists (noun, plural), islamophobic (adjective), islamophobes (noun, plural).

I think it was Robert Spencer (name & proper noun) who coined the noun: "islamophobophobe". Essentially an islamist (noun, no capital letter required as the noun refers to a follower of an ideology; eg communist, fascist, socialist, and is not the start of a sentence or question)

My request to the readers and English language scholars is to come up with a simple noun (and suitable suffix) that describes what I am.

I am islamo-aware (adjective), therefore I am an islamoxxxxx (where xxxxx is the suffix, resulting in the noun - islamoxxxxx). "Islamoguru" (noun)does not sound right, "islamo-aware" (adjective), "islamo-savvy" (adjective) don't roll off the tongue as effective as "islamophobe".

Any ideas?

Alex

Unfortunately, too many in the West are still "Islamo-ignorant", think it's some sort of peaceful religion. Not a chance, Islam is a political ideology bordering on religious cult, dedicated to subduing the whole world to their primitive 7th century warlord ideology in the name of their moon-god Allah. It has no place in modern society, at all.

I read somewhere else that Islam has no problem being protected by the First Amendment, that it passes every test as a religion. I beg to differ. Islam is NOT a religion in need of protection, as religions are practiced in all other faiths, as a personal salvation or attainment of higher good; Islam is a supremacist ideology that would use any means to overturn the First Amendment, especially the West's cherished 'separation of religion and state'. This is against Sharia, where government and religion are co-joined and can never be separated. What the First Amendment cannot protect, and this is critical, it cannot protect Sharia. Therefore, any attempt to unseat Islamic principles in the West must first go after Islam's Sharia. There can be no dual parallel legal system in our constitutional democratic governments, or it is seditious. Sharia must be called out on this, and put out permanently. No Sharia in the West, ever!

From the article:

"The far-right politician..."

Since Hitlerian times any persons demanding or desiring a Nation made up of indigenous Nationals is considered NAZI, fascist or "far-right politician."

The USA is the only country (I think) on the planet which was founded on a "multi-cultural" society.

Does Europe, a continent made up of many languages and cultures, NOT have the right to maintain those unique traits without it being labeled "far-right" and ultimately racist?

Europe alone can only decide that.

I spoke to a Muslim, now in the US, who had lived in Iraq and whose parents were killed by a car bomb. He told me that 4 million Iraqis were killed as a result of Shia-Sunni violence and terrorism financed by Iran and Saudi Arabia. He said that 25,000 Iraqis were killed by Americans. I don't know what exactly is the truth, but he certainly believed it. I am suspicious when I hear that enormous numbers of Iraqis were killed by Americans. These "statistics" should not be accepted at face value. Too many people have agendas and little in the way of facts. I think few people in the West rejoice in the deaths of innocents in the Muslim countries. But we have witnessed the rejoicing and jubilation after 9/11, the festivities, the candy for the children, the dancing in the streets after terror murders have taken place. This tells us a great deal about Islam.

Can someone tell me what "plantation mentality" means?

As for Geert, all good except of course we should allow into our countries non-Muslims from Muslim countries who are in need of succour and relief. All agreed?

"Islamic aware" ???

I am Semite aware, with concern about each side of this dysfunctional family.

Jared

Muslims declared war on us. What did you expect us to do?
Outkilling the enemy is the way we keep score in war.
If you didn't know that, now you do. You have no complaint.

"Islamo-Realist"

During the Cold War we didn’t allow millions of Communists to immigrate and infiltrate our countries because that would have been suicidal. Yet, because of the idiocy of our politicians and because of the prevalence of political correctness, that is exactly what we are doing today, we are allowing millions of Muslims to immigrate and infiltrate our countries and it is likewise suicidal, as Islam besides being a religion is also a radical form of totalitarianism that like Communism also seeks world domination.

Looks like we Aussies will have to invent a 'sister' organisation that can then, for example, in due time, invite Mr Wilders or one of his colleagues to come pay a visit Down Under for a speaking tour or a conference.

Another thought entirely: we know that Mr Wilders lives with death threats and has to employ heavy-duty security measures.

But we must remember that he is doubtless not the only one, though the most visible. There's his wife, first of all.

What we know of Muslims suggests to me that the most bloodcurdling of the threats he's received will have featured descriptions of what the assassins would like to do to his wife.

I don't know if he has living parents, and whether he has siblings, but if he does, they too have surely been in the firing line.

And I'll bet the same goes for every member of the Party For Freedom, especially those who were first voted into the Dutch parliament, and now the rest of the team who were voted in just this year. I'll *bet* that every one of them cops regular Hate Mail from the jihad-minded and from the mindless janissaries of jihad; not as much as Mr Wilders himself or, say, Mr Spencer receives, but still pretty scarey.

(In that regard, though Wilders' parliamentary colleagues are not necessarily seasoned politicians, the peculiar conditions attendant upon their stepping into the public view as 'Party For Freedom' candidates, are likely to have acted as a 'filter' to weed out all but the bravest.)

From jihadwatch, December 2004.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/12/interview-geert-wilders-the-new-fortuyn.html

And two years after that article and discussion, something from the essayist Fjordman demonstrating that even a very clever person within the counter-jihad movement had not seen all the pieces on the board:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/06/waiting-for-churchill-or-waiting-for-godot.html

"So, what to do next?

"What are we waiting for?

" For some decent leader to step forward, perhaps?

"Well, where is he, or she?

"During the appeasement of the late 1930s, Churchill was already there, ready to step in when called for.

"The problem is, I just can't see anyone of his stature now.

" Tony Blair? Apart from the Iraq war, absolutely everything he has done related to Islam, both in the UK and abroad, has been wrong. In some ways, he is a worse appeaser than Chamberlain ever was. I doubt Gordon Brown will be better.

"Chirac is a corrupt crook, de Villepain is a pompous, Eurabian clown with a Napoleon complex, Sarkozy isn't too bad, but not good enough, and France is in too much trouble of her own to do anything for the rest of Europe. Besides, it was France who created Eurabia in the first place. Count them out.

"Spain has forgotten everything of her past and has Zapatero, an appeasing Socialist weasel, as PM, brought to power by al-Qaeda. {But let us think about their former PM, Aznar, and his Friends of Israel initiative..there's life in Spain yet - dda}.

'Italy recently ousted their right-wing government in favor of a Leftist, super-Eurocrat, Romano Prodi, as PM, and Communist ministers who want open doors for Muslims from North Africa to enter.

"Which actually leaves Germany's Angela Merkel as the least bad leader among the larger nations. But Ms. Merkel is no Thatcher, and certainly not a Churchill. Her support for the awful EU Constitution should be enough to discount her as a potential leader of a de-Eurabization of Europe.

"The only Western European leader in power with something resembling a spine is Anders Fogh Rasmussen in Denmark, but Denmark is too small to lead this.

"I hope we are waiting for a Churchill to step forward, but I sometimes fear we are waiting for Godot."

Great move from Geert Wilders, like George I observe that Islam and it's dictatorial efforts and influences are international and so should the reaction to it be.

Before thinking nationwise I like to think faith-wise; Seeing for now Islam and 6 other categories; Judaism-Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, all the "atheists", all the "divers other faiths".

And a conscious part of these 6 can have as common denominator full agreement on democratic societies, with the 5 pillars of it; Constitutional State, fair elections, separation of church/ mosque and state, autonomy of the individual (esp. of women too), freedom of speech. They can form the UDN, United Democratic Nations.

It is often said that it is better to concentrate on what you are for than on what you are against. And the best I can find to substitute for Islamic states, laws, values is Secular Democratic states, laws and values.

So next to being Islamo-cognizant I like people also to be Democrato-cognizant and willing not only to protect that but also to spread that, but as much as possible in peaceful democratic ways.

And I speculate that the rise of Islam may have meaning in the sense that this causes awareness and desire of how we like our societies and how we unite slowly but surely in this desire.

Instead of taken our secular democracies for granted and being so autonomous, individual that we are hopelessly divided. I think this ignorance and division now more and more get's to be a luxury we can't afford due to Islamic intentions, unity, commitment and demographic developments.

How regressive has the main stream media become when it characterises an anti-fascist like Geert Wilders as "right wing".

The MSM uses this term purely for sensationalism and for character assassination. As such the MSM is purely self indulgent and does not server the public interest.

Expect the usual deafening silence from the BBC.

Way to go Geert. Bless you for taking this threat as seriously as it should be taken.

Has any other news agency reported it apart from sky news?
Are some agencies from the mainstream media realising the threat that islam poses to the world?
The tide should start turning now.

Quote: The far-right politician identified the five nations as "ripe" for his message as they already have a large number of Muslim immigrants and face a threat from Islamic terrorists....

The threat is not from Islamic terrorists but the demographic growth rate of Muslims already in the West. Whether they are radical, moderate or fanatics is irrelevant. In the end, it is these Muslims, already resident in the West,as their numbers increase, will demand sharia, and if they dont get it, it will be terrorism followed by civil war.

Islam is waging a never ending war. In the end demography will tell. If there is opposition to sharia, then the country is partitioned, as in the case of Turkey-Greece, Cyprus, Bosnia, and the classic India-Pakistan. A similar process is underway in Phillipines and Thailand. In Africa - Nigeria, Uganda, Tanzania and Ethiopia, to name a few. In each case, non-Muslims are `cleansed´ from Muslim areas, while Muslims demand, and are granted democratic rights in the remainder part, as we are a tolerant and liberal democratic state. The cycle then continues- sharia expands slice by slice. The resulting situation gets increasingly difficult to rescue with time,as the Muslim population increases. This is the paradigm that allows Omar Bakri to assert that Islam will win so long as we play by our rules. Note the claims by Muslims of "Muslim" areas in Britain.

The only answer is to admit that allowing Muslims in the West was a mistake, and that to avoid a nasty civil war that will make Bosnia look a garden party, it it is best that there is a "separation". Common humanity requires it.

More evidence that our American world is temporarily inside out and backwards. A politician from the reliable leftist Netherlands, Geert Wilders - is voice of clarity and reason and our president refuses to address this Muslim incursion or even say the words "radical Islam".

It's as if Obama has deluded himself that the Mullahs and Heads of State in the Middle East/S.W.Asia like him and trust him. News flash - the don't.

We have raging dhimmihood (a mosque at Ground Zero?)and the Dutch are fighting back. Good for the Dutch.

I've noticed how they use the word Islamophobe agains us. The truth is we are not anti-muslim.

The word should be 'shariaphobe'.

Facebook already closed the page for Geert Wilders International Freedom Alliance. Muslims 'reporting' the page cause this? Or FB on its own, or other?

Adminifa Ifa changed the name of the group "The Official Geert Wilders International Freedom Alliance" to "Closed".

Re demography, in the early 70s there was much concern amongst environmentalists about population growth. (Paul Ehrlich Population Bomb etc.) At that time the American people, without coercive policies, brought their rate of growth down to virtually replacement level. That was not good enough for the "elite" who embarked upon a policy to flood the US with millions of irresponsible breeders from the third world. A similar thing occurred in Europe. No sooner did this shift occur than the enviro-hypocrites suddenly made population issues something not to be spoken of. An example of these hypocrites is Ehrlich's one time colleague, John Holdren, who is now "science advisor" to the anti-American Obama regime which is promoting an amnesty policy that, among other things, will result in a massive increase in US population.

Re refugees from the Sudan etc., the best thing to be done is to train them, arm them and provide them air support so that they can free their territories from Islam, and not to have them emigrate here en masse undermining our own culture.

Geert Wilders is the modern day Churchill, provided that the Europeans are smart enough to acknowledge that.

It's deja vu all over again. Isn't Grenoble a resort town in the Alps, and home of the Short Film festival?

Just in from France, Al-Jazeera News: Police killing sparks French riots

"No casualties were reported on Saturday, but police and government officials have a lingering fear that the poor suburbs arounf France's major cities could explode into violence as they did in 2005."

No mention these were *Muslim* riots, of course. No casualties, yet. Just the usual car burnings, riots, attacks on passers by, shootings. More of the same, from our in-migrated 'religion of peace' (sic) causing mischief and mayhem. Will more people wake up now? Especially those air-heads who think Muslim immigration is a good thing? Looks like Wilder's team has more work cut out for them.

Oh, and P.S, "raven" - our own president, W, who graduated from Yale, knew nothing about Islam, when he proclaimed it a "religion of peace," 2 days after 9/11.

Bug off, you arrogant jerk.

"Quoth the raven, 'Nevermore.' - Poe

Same to you. Jerk.

When Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone: United States -- Muslim 1.0% Australia -- Muslim 1.5% Canada -- Muslim 1.9% China -- Muslim 1%-2% Italy -- Muslim 1.5% Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs: Denmark -- Muslim 2% Germany -- Muslim 3.7% United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7% Spain -- Muslim 4% Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. France -- Muslim 8% Philippines -- Muslim 5% Sweden -- Muslim 5% Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5% Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam - Mohammad cartoons). Guyana -- Muslim 10% India -- Muslim 13.4% Israel -- Muslim 16% Kenya -- Muslim 10% Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning: Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare: Bosnia -- Muslim 40% Chad -- Muslim 53.1% Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels: Albania -- Muslim 70% Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4% Qatar -- Muslim 77.5% Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide: Bangladesh -- Muslim 83% Egypt -- Muslim 90% Gaza -- Muslim 98.7% Iran -- Muslim 98% Iraq -- Muslim 97% Jordan -- Muslim 92% Morocco -- Muslim 98.7% Pakistan -- Muslim 97% Palestine -- Muslim 99% Syria -- Muslim 90% Tajikistan -- Muslim 90% Turkey -- Muslim 99.8% 100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim: Afghanistan -- Muslim 100% Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100% Somalia -- Muslim 100% Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

The thing I am not seeing on this site is how Obama has covered up the very real possibility that many thousands of people could have and might still be killed by the doomsday gusher in the gulf. B.P. certainly has a track record of doing favors for Muslim Oil Countries (like helping to let the Lockabie bomber go free). You would think that he would have at least told them they might want to get out of the tsunami area for a while until the danger passed. But no matter what it looks like, Obama is white washing and covering up B.P.'s deadly mistakes, and giving them unprecedented police powers on the Gulf over Americans - so many such that we don't really know what is really going on there (news blackout). Is not this because B.P. is such a friend to all Muslim Oil Dictators? Yes! So why is this not being pointed out? Not reporting the gulf danger to all those unfortunate Americans is nothing less than heartless, and murderous negligence! Just the sort of thing Abortion-loving Obama would get himself bogged down in.

I want to thank Sword of Damocles in reply to PJG for setting the record straight once and for all and for also providing a very excellent background on the Southern Sudanese’s long struggle to resist the forced Islamization and imposition of Arab imperialism upon their population.

Champ:

Yes, we must stop immigration from Muslim nations into the free world while we still can. We can start by signing this petition:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/no-more-Muslim-immigration

This is an interesting clip.
Palestinians hired by the Revolutionary guard to shoot from the rooftop on the demonstrators in Tehran.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheGuardian#p/u/17/UaZ3G-B7j_s

Than blame Americ and Israel for everyting.

This allaince is long overdue. It must spread quickly to include all western nations all over the world, also African Nations, Asian nations, every nation that is targeted and under threat by the political and militant Islamists.

I had better try and defend myself! I have read a lot already about Sudanese history and only differ with Sword of Damocles about one thing: from what I understand, the northern people (politicians) persuaded the southerners to help get rid of the British, promising full representation and so on. But of course they reneged on the deal and gave them nothing. And politicians such as Machar have made all kinds of deals with the northern government against the interests of the south.
No, I have not travelled the length and breadth of the Sudan, so I hope what you say is true about the people being fully aware of Islam. Still, it is strange that so many Sudanese I meet HERE have the attitudes I mentioned: blaming the British for the problems in their country and knowing almost nothing of their pre-British or even pre-independence history.
But maybe this is partly because the people here largely escaped the war, and have adopted a PC outlook from the West, and maybe it is partly language, culture and other things which make them mix with Sudanese Muslims here.
If south Sudan becomes Islamized, it will probably be a result of political correctness of the GOSS: not discriminating about the religion of immigrants, welcoming Muslim traders, allowing da'wa in the form of Muslim charities: small incremental things such as are happening here.
A Sudanese I was talking to the other day said, as an example of the 'trickle-down' PC thinking, that there was 'nothing wrong' with Somalian immigrants going into Sudan, as they bring business. It seems mean and petty to disagree, but that is the problem; discriminating might be mean and petty, but it also might be necessary.
I am not trying to be a know-all, and maybe I am somewhat pessimistic, but I believe we should be careful about boasting of our success in resisting Islam. (Europe resisted Islam too, long ago, and look at it now.) The Nubians resisted Islam a long time ago, and gradually succumbed. The challenge for us all is about being clever in peace-time, because if they can't defeat us in war - well, they have other ideas, bagsfull of ideas. I heartily commend the southern Sudanese for their courage and strength in defeating the north in the war, so I hope and pray they can continue to resist whatever means Muslims use to see the realization of Turabi's dream. As long as there are Muslims next door, no matter how you draw up the border,you have a problem.

By the way, no-one told me what 'plantation mentality' is.

Sword of Damocles: I wrote what I did before reading your latest post; so much of what I said was unnecessary
And yes, as i said, I DO admire the Sudanese for what they did, and this is one of the reasons I like them so much.

Unfortunately, maybe it is anti-Islam, if not "anti-Muslim to stand for the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and the equality of rights of all people before the law." The trouble with Islam is Islam.

Sword of Damocles: This afternoon I found an interesting article on a website for an organization in Khartoum (Amarat) called the Al-Khatim Adlan Centre. This is part of it.
"Christianity found its way to Nubia in the sixth century, transforming it into a Christian kingdom that lasted for a thousand years. Soon after the rise of Islam in the seventh century, the Muslims conquered Egypt and knocked on the doors of Dongola the capital of Nubia. The Nubians'
resistance, although it stopped the Islamic march, could not drive the Arabs out of the Nubian land. A stalemate between the two parties furnished the ground for a political settlement. A treaty between the Nubians and the
Arabs was reached in 651-52 A.D. The terms of the treaty are interpreted differently by different contemporary writers. Whereas some of these writers consider it to be in the advantage of the Arabs, others see it as a victory for
the Nubians. However, the undisputed fact is that the Nubian kingdom achieved what no other kingdom had achieved in the ancient world, i.e. to stop the hitherto unstoppable Muslims' march. Muslims divide world intodar al-Islam and dar al-Harb (territory of Islam and territory of war). With
Nubia maintaining its territorial integrity, Muslims had to create a third category, which is neither dar al-harb nor dar al-Islam,came into being.
This is called dar al-'Ahd (territory of pact). Although the treaty secured the sovereignty of the Nubian kingdom for almost a thousand years, it opened the land for the Arabs to trade freely, and therefore set the process of
Arabization and Islamzation in motion, the matter that ultimately led to the kingdom’s demise."

This is what I mean about vigilance and treaties. In the case of Nubia, trade and immigration were the deciding factors. It took a while...but it happened. And as for the West, so in love with trade and immigration,time is of the essence.

Above, I gave the link for what I believe to be Mr Geert Wilders' first appearance on the Jihadwatch radar screen.

I don't know whether and how many people clicked on it.

In that particular jihadwatch comments thread, a contributor named 'Sebastien', writing from France, provided a copy of an early speech by Geert Wilders: a speech given just after Theo Van Gogh's assassination.

I will reproduce it here in full.

"[Sebastien says] Here is a copy and paste from a recent speech by Geert Wilders, the Dutch MP currently under death threat by islamists. His speech also refers to this story of the boys with their flags. You can read this and more about the Dutch situation here http://dutchreport.blogspot.com/

He says all the right things.

'First Speech - Geert Wilders 


'Representative Wilders, under threat by Islamist who wants him dead, gave his first public speech since the murder on Theo van Gogh.

'He spoke to 50 businessmen in the city of Rotterdam, the city that made Pim Fortuyn. MSM calls him right wing, extreme and radical.

'But he is just a moderate conservative, with a lot of potential for the Netherlands.
Judge for your self.
The speech gives a good view on Dutch situation:

THE SPEECH BEGINS.
- 
Rotterdam January 31, 2005

"Ladies and Gentleman,

"I would like to thank you, for letting me speak here.

"This is my first speech in The Netherlands since the murder of Theo van Gogh.

"I consider it an honor to make my comeback here in Rotterdam together with you.

"I want to use tonight’s speech here, to tell you about my plans for my political movement and most of all, my plans for this nation.

"The coming months I will go public with more ideas and gradual transform from an independent representative to a large public movement.

"I will not speak lengthy and at the end you can ask questions. I’m curious to hear from you what your ideas are about the future of The Netherlands and how we all can make sure we leave a better Netherlands for our children.

"It has not been an easy time since I left the Liberal party (VVD).

"Of course I already was a maverick liberal. Last year I published together with my former colleague Oplaat my ten-point plan. The essence of that plan was that the liberal party (VVD) was too left wing. Leading liberals even want to unite with social-liberals (D66) and socialists (PvdA). Now I left the liberal party (VVD), this seems a good idea to me. The liberal party (VVD) is a very purple party [*1]. All major parties in parliament are one of a kind. Let them all merge together.

"In the [19]90s we thought we were on holiday from History. As if we were done. But September 11th acted for many as a wake up call.

"Long before 2001, I had already warned against the radical Islam, but the government ignored all warnings.

"The Netherlands slept quietly further. The elite refused to see the dangers that threatened us.

"Also the murder of Theo van Gogh did not bring the moral clarity we need at this moment.

"Our elite keeps on speaking nonsense about how we should start the dialog. Drinking tea as a remedy against terror.

"It’s nice that TV-shows like ‘around ten’ (Rond om tien) are full with reasonable and good educated immigrants, reality is, that 90% of the Moroccan people in The Netherlands only watch Moroccan TV channels. The gospel of the dialog does not reach them.

"Now is the moment to act. It will soon be spring, time for spring-cleaning. I do not make a difference between terror against the state and terror on the streets.

"Who on the street (lijnbaan) prevents that medical rescue service workers can do their work [More info: here], should just be arrested.

"Is such a person a holder of a foreign passport? - makes it easier. Because this person can be send quickly out of the country. Every week airplanes arrive at Schiphol airport coming from Turkey and Morocco with new immigrants with no perspectives. It would be good if the return flights also had some passengers.

"Terrorism is not something you solve with a orange bracelet [*2] or a binding day [*3].

"We should give all we have to protect our families.

"The government comes with new paper plans, but in the mean time they do practically nothing.

"There is not a single radical mosque closed, not a single radical imam evicted from the country and not even one of the hundred and fifty terrorists under surveillance by the intelligence service is caught.

"With intentions and laws only, you will not solve the problem of the radical Islam.

"What this country needs, are politicians with guts that dare to stick their neck out and act when needed.

"Regarding the war on terror the gentleman [justice minister] Donner, [Domestic affairs minister] Remkes and [prime minister] Balkenende, bark but don’t bite.

"Last week the trial against Mohammed B. [murderer of Theo van Gogh] started.

"A letter written by him illustrates what kind of emergency we are in.

"'B. hoped that it would not take much longer QUOTE “before the knights of Allah will march into the Binnenhof [parliament] and in the middle of the square will rise the flag of the Tawheed. The parliament will be renamed Sharia-court and the chairman’s hammer will confirm the Islamic judgments. Out of the tower of Kok [room of prime minister] will sound the praises for Allah.' END QUOTE

"I often hear a lot of nonsense coming from that tower, but I must say: rather Balkenende than Allah.....

"Main objective of the Group Wilders the coming months is the battle of the referendum.

"YOU might know it: in June you may vote before or against the European constitution.

"In a way it is good that you finally get an opportunity to voice your opinion directly. The Dutch population is never asked something about the European ‘fusion’. That ‘fusion’ is presented by the political parties elites (CDA, PvdA, VVD, in front) as a natural phenomenon. According to these vested parties, the European ‘fusion’ is an ‘inevitable’ fact, a train that left the station and can’t be stopped anymore. Every European treaty is without worthwhile discussion approved, no European proposal goes our leaders to far.

"As a representative I judge all proposals on their merits.

"If something is in the interest of the Netherlands we should do it, but if it is not, we shouldn’t do it. That’s the way a representative should act: Always in the Dutch national interest. Objective and well considered. Not join nonsense because Brussel [EU headquarter] wants it so badly.

"Was the abolishment of the Guilder [Dutch Currency] in the Dutch interest? The price rises caused by the euro? Denhaag gives our monetary and fiscal policies away to anonymous bureaucrats in Frankfurt. Is that really smart? France and Italy break the stability pact, the Greeks and Italians haggled when joining and the German chancellor Schroeder what’s to stretch the criteria even further?

"Is it in our national interest to have a joined European refugee policy? Not being allowed to guard our borders? Is it in our national interest to be one of EU largest net contributors?

"Is it in our national interest to admit more new, poor countries like Bulgaria and Romania to the union? Strangely these questions are never debated in Den Haag [Dutch parliament].

"And now the political elite wants to admit Turkey to the union, a Islamic land of millions, that will have an enormous influence on the federal super state.

"Because of the new European constitution, Turkey will have more influence on Dutch legislation than The Netherlands itself. It can’t become crazier than this.

"A considerable amount of our legislation is already coming from Brussel, most Dutch civil servants carry out European law.

"European laws and rules now consist of 100.000 pages. Each year that grows with a few thousand new rules. Europe is out of control. Europe is not owned by its citizens but owned by the bureaucrats in Brussel.

"The European constitution abolishes the primary principle of sovereign and political independent democratic member states.

"Both legally as politically The Netherlands will become a province in the European super state. And do you know what socialist (PvdA) spokes person Witteveen, a big supporter of the European constitution, said in the senate during the debate over the EU referendum?

"He said: “The development of the EU go with little steps, often over obscure dark winding paths, but has now reached the point of no return: Dutch citizens no longer live in a sovereign nation state, the independent kingdom of The Netherlands …”.

"I could not have said it better than this socialist did. But in contrast to the PvdA, the CDA and the VVD, I will not accept this sell out.

"If the new European constitution is accepted, more often decisions will be made by majority rule. The Netherlands loses its veto. We will lose as many as 63 veto rights. Countries with more citizens will get more influence.

"A country like Turkey with its enormous population will have more influence then the small Netherlands. Now there live 68 million people in Turkey. In 2020 there will be 83 million.

"Thus the difference gets bigger and with that, Dutch influence gets smaller. Thus, the more Turks there come, the less we have to say about our own country.

"I hope you will go to the ballot and vote against the European constitution.

"This way you contribute to make The Netherlands independent again. The elite in Brussel will be disappointed next June.

"The Groep Wilders will transform the coming year to a broad movement.

"In these times of gloom, I come with a message of hope and optimism.

" I think The Netherlands can do better. I think our best days are still ahead.

" I think there is no reason for pessimism, simple because we have confronted bigger problems in the past. Look around you, and see what the Dutch together have buildup.

"These same Dutch should be afraid for the challenges ahead? I don’t think so.

"Maybe you have heart that Groep Wilders is an one issue movement, a club that has only one topic.

"They are right.

"Our issue is freedom. I put freedom central.

"The freedom that your mother can go out in the evenings, the freedom that your grant [grand] children are not forced to wear a head scarf, the freedom that you can spend your income on your family, the freedom to say what you want, the freedom you have because your government protects your family against terrorists, the freedom to have a job and a pleasant live, the freedom as a country to decide for ourselves independently.

"Since today we can add another freedom to this list: the freedom as a Dutch to wear the Dutch flag. For example on your school bag, as the boys in IJselstijn wanted but were not allowed by their school direction, because it would provoke Moroccan students

"Freedom is the central idea. Now organizing it.

"In the months after I left the liberal party (VVD), I received tens of thousands of mails. A large part of the messages had a clear message: Geert please continue, but please not a second Lijst Pim Fortuyn (LPF).

"I have taken this at heart.

"To start with, we make full use of the element of time.

"Professor Fortuyn had only a few weeks to organize. That did not work out.

"We let our self advise and assist by professionals. That must result in a faction that is unanimous. Solid people who together form a cohesive team.

"Our administration is in professional hands, to make sure there is never any doubt about the financial management.

"Our organization slowly emerges, with all cost involved. Later we also need extra money for a national election campaign. The existing political parties have doubled their government grants from 7 million in 2001 to 15 million euro in 2004. This way the taxpayer has to pay for commercials the Dutch elite parties make for them selves.

"My new party has not yet run in parliamentary elections and that is why it not eligible to claim government grants. That means that I have to organize my finances my self.

"But that is not something we are unhappy about. We are not a party that lives off the taxpayer’s money, needlessly parasiting on the public treasury.

"We are a citizen’s movement: free people who make their own choices and who are not on addicted to government money.

"My call for donation I made last year, resulted in many reactions. Often these are small amounts of individuals. Sometimes someone sends a small message with it. For example a woman who says that she cannot give more than 10 euro. But she adds - “Mister Wilders, you have to know that you can always come into hiding at my home”. Reactions like these get me through these cold times.

"Al small donations are welcome. Because they show that this is a citizens movement.

"I have enormous energy to create something great. I hope, together with you.

"
Ladies and gentleman, thank you for your attention.
Posted by: Sebastien at February 5, 2005 5:30 AM

So pleased to hear America has been included in Mr. Wilders' plan. I will support him and the organization. I hope he is being well guarded for obvious reasons. I pray for him daily and commend his effort to wake up the western world to the objectives of Islam.

I support your efforts 100%. Islam is a political ideology and not a just a religion! It is fascist in many aspects. The problem is that Muslims are master of deception and double talk. They want to dominate the world and extinguish the fire of freedom. Western culture is ill prepared to defeat such evil. Mr Wilder is performing a huge favor to the free world by exposing this satanic ideology.
G-d bless you!

we all support you 100%