This Bloomberg News article says matter-of-factly that there has been "a rise this year in the number of hate crimes against Muslims," and that's why these extra police patrols are needed at New York City mosques during Ramadan.
And certainly if there is any actual threat against these mosques, they warrant the extra police protection, quite aside from questions of whether or not Islamic supremacism and hatred are being taught inside them. This is a nation of laws, not vigilantes, and the principle of innocent until proven guilty still holds and must hold.
At the same time, the police should investigate the question of whether or not the hate crimes that have made it appear that this extra police protection was necessary were faked. This is a legitimate and reasonable question given the fact that the thuggish Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has actually trumpeted fake anti-Muslim hate crimes in the past, in order to use them to score political points. They did this again just weeks ago in Georgia.
CAIR, an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas funding case, has claimed that "anti-Muslim hate crimes" have risen sharply in the U.S. since 9/11. In fact, the rate of such crimes has actually dropped. CAIR knows well that victimhood is big business: insofar as they can claim protected victim status for Muslims in the U.S., they can deflect unwanted scrutiny and any critical examination of how jihadists use Islamic texts and teachings to justify violence and supremacism.
That's most likely why CAIR and others have not hesitated to stoop even to fabricating "hate crimes." They want and need hate crimes against Muslims, because they can use them as weapons to intimidate people into remaining silent about the jihad threat.
So it must be asked: on the basis of what evidence was the decision made to increase police protection of New York mosques during Ramadan? How was that evidence evaluated? What consideration was made for the recurring phenomenon of Muslims faking anti-Muslim hate crimes?
If there were any real reporters in New York, they would be asking Bloomberg questions like those.
"New York City mosques get extra protection during Ramadan," from Bloomberg News, July 28:
The New York Police Department will increase foot patrols at mosques during Ramadan, the Islamic month of fasting that begins in August, amid a rise this year in the number of hate crimes against Muslims."I know this is the most sacred time of the year for the Muslim faith," Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said Tuesday at a news conference attended by about 400 people, including leaders of the Muslim community. "Our goal at the department is that you are able to experience it in safety and in peace."
New York City has more than 100 mosques, compared with 10 in 1970, said Philip Banks III, chief of the department's Community Affairs Bureau. Ramadan starts Aug. 11 and ends Sept. 9.
I'd like to see the statistics confirming this "rise in hate crimes"...and I'd like to see a break-down in the nature of these crimes. How many were physical assaults? How many were attacks on mosques?
My guess is very, very few, IF ANY! Otherwise, the Muslim siren-song of victimization would have been blaring from the rooftops...and we'd all have heard about it by now.
Though I am usually quite critical of your postings, I think you're on the mark here. There's only a few loudmouth people in CAIR who claim to represent all Muslims. No one in Muslim world takes them seriously and most didn't know who they are. But from the clips I've seen, I wish they'd shut up.
Reporting fake hate crimes hurts everyone, Muslim and non-Muslim also. It's a waste of resources and a sin.
You people might say that Muslims can justify fake crime reports as "taquiya" but in fact, the few Muslims that even know what that is, couldn't use it to justify this kind of fraud. It's meant to be applied far more narrowly than you think.
Anyway, I am glad you are giving this issue some attention.
it would be interesting as well to know whether or not female patrolpersons, jewish patrolpersons, gay patrolpersons have been asked to be excluded from the "protection" effort. one thinks the Muslim doesn't want a Christian patrolperson walking about, either. and also: have there been some rentacops hired to fill in gaps so as to be kept in the security loop...
"..the recurring phenomenon of Muslims faking anti-Muslim hate crimes.."
Systematic lying to the infidel, must be considered part and parcel of Islamic tactics.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/07/perfect-man.html
"This Bloomberg News article says matter-of-factly that there has been "a rise this year in the number of hate crimes against Muslims"
That is a total lie. Bloomberg is an enemy to our country, and that he's Jewish only makes it all the more rotten. There's many more things I'd like to say about the Idiot Bloomberg, but I better not.
And Police Commissioner Ray Kelly? Good Grief, what a dumb****. Panderer to the enemy.
"New York City has more than 100 mosques, compared with 10 in 1970"
And the Demographic Jihad continues apace.
YYK, 'taquiya', as you've said previously under different nom-de-plumes, may well not be in common parlance in Morocco etc. However there is much evidence to support the fact that it has so become a cultural norm that comes as a reflex .
“Ladies and gentlemen, er, we’ve just lost the picture, but, uh, what we’ve seen speaks for itself. The Corvair spacecraft has been taken over — ‘conquered’, if you will — by a master race of giant space ants [Muslims]. It’s difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive earth men or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain, there is no stopping them; the ants [Muslims] will soon be here. And I, for one, welcome our new insect [Islamic] overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to…toil in their underground sugar caves.”
Kent Brockman, who has now taken over the body and soul of Michael Bloomberg.
In addition to gay, jewish, hindu, and coptic cops patroling these mosques we must have K-9 patrols to sniff out these home made bombs and suspicious mosque bombers hiding in the bushes. big black police dogs.
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GOP Lawmaker Thinks Islam is a Cult
Tennessee Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey
http://www.care2.com/causes/politics/blog/gop-lawmaker-thinks-islam-is-a-cult/
we need to congratulate him on speaking the truth.
Let me guess- a couple of muslims were picking on a few gay men and got their asses kicked! Or maybe they were beating on some women who were not in a veil and got their asses kicked! Or maybe a muslim family found out that SIOA was going to prevent them from killing their daughter. If we can't stop the muslims from hating, its a hate crime, right? WHY DOES BLOOMBERG HATE AMERICA AND NYC??
What an icky, treacly, naive site. These people wouldn't call the cops if they saw a Muslim beating his wife in the street. All cultures are valid, doncha know.
I would like to suggest the Police foot patrols be done by female officers of the K9 unit during the most vunerable time of it's members, during the call to prayer.
"What an icky, treacly, naive site. These people wouldn't call the cops if they saw a Muslim beating his wife in the street. All cultures are valid, doncha know."
Well, the USA has a murder rate over 5x that of brutal, wife-beating, violent Muslim Indonesia (the world's largest Muslim country.) Indonesian violent crime rates are also far lower. I suppose in your hypothetical couple, the wife would be much safer with a Muslim Indonesian husband than the average American male.
Churches and synagogues are on their own. That way they be will unprotected when the Soldiers of Allah attack........... what am I saying? CAIRO has all the details for the riot, I mean, demonstration.
It's not just Moslems faking "hate-crimes", it's Moslems MAKING them: virtually all of the bombings of mosques around the world are perpetrated by other Moslems. Moslems face more violence from each other than from the "non-believers". Likewise, they dish out far more violence against non-believers than they receive from them. It's the non-believers who need extra protection from the Moslems during Ramadan, not vice-versa.
Any crime against a Muslim is counted as a "hate crime," even crimes that Muslims commit against each other. Every Islamic center of "worship" is suspect. No doubt whatever violence occurs this Ramadan terror season will be provoked by the totalitarian Islamic supremacists.
hope you are well. you are not correct about Churchs and synegogs. I work in NYC and have nearly for 28 years. I am three bolck away from St. Patrick Curch on 5th Ave. and I go to cigar club on 63rd across from a conservative synegoge. during high holidays for both the churchs and synogoes, they are heavily protected by a speacial divisin of NYC police. in fact some of the most prominent churches and synegos, are proteced by NYC year around. as musg as I hate Islam, the mosque too shoild be protected, remmeber there neo nazi out there. it is just like saying the police should nor protect neo nazi or the KKK when they are rallying.
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All this extra police activity, and for what? To protect the idiots from themselves? Maybe they would feel safer in their own countries (there's a novel idea)? No wait! They have no infidel dhimmi police patrols there to protect them. My bad.
Maybe the police can learn how to pull this off from Egypt. After all, they know how to protect folks practicing their religion during "the most holy time of year." Just ask the Coptic Christians over there. The Religion of Peace (for fellow Muslims) machine gunned them coming out of Christmas Services and burnt down churches (which are illegal to rebuild). Maybe the Mayor would ask them how they do it so well since no Muslim organization here ever spoke out about those incidents maybe Egypt took care of business. We know the Muslims here would speak out against an unpunished atrocity done in the name of Islam right?
Yusef. There you go again with your statistics. There's lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Your nabi didn't hear you say if the mass murder of Chinese Indonesians, with possibly as many as 1 million victims, in the 60s was included in your murder rate. Did you include the massacres in Dilli which occurred only a few years ago and required Aussi intervention to stop? Just wondering.
Stop trying to peddle these lies and damn lies and statistics like you are some kind of intellectual. You are a dope who seems unaware of even recent history. Are you a college student by any chance?
Freedom and independence for Iran Jaya aka Occupied West Papua. End all mohametan occupation of all lands taken by force. And BTW thats all lands where mohametans currently hold sway. Return all holy sites to their rightful owners. Rededicate the kaba as a multi faith site as it was in the time before the pedo rapist murderer.... necrophile....hmm....what else?...general all around ass....mohamet (may pig poop be upon him).
The filth must be cleansed and the sooner the better.
And ZK knows better.
nabi ZK (pbum)
Well, the USA has a murder rate over 5x that of brutal, wife-beating, violent Muslim Indonesia (the world's largest Muslim country.) Indonesian violent crime rates are also far lower. I suppose in your hypothetical couple, the wife would be much safer with a Muslim Indonesian husband than the average American male.
Surely you don't rely on statistics released by islamic hellholes?! Are you stupid, or what?
Muslims never admit guilt, fault, or responsibilty for anything they do and they lie, lie, lie. So your figures don't surprise me one bit; do they include beheaded schoolgirls and honor killings? Probably not.
I have NEVER heard a muslim admit guilt for anything except honor killings and they take great pride in those. Every problem in the islamic world is the fault of the evil Great Satan, Israel, the Jews, the Christians, the Crusaders, or the colonists. It's very interesting that Europe's prisons are full of muslim murderers and rapists. They seem to think sharia is in force and it's ok to pillage, plunder, rape, and murder the infidels.
How many times are you going to give us the murder statistics in the U.S. vs. an islamic hellhole? Thirty years ago, London was one of the safest cities in the world; look at it since the muslim invasion.
"a rise this year in the number of hate crimes against Muslims,"
Do they mean nasty emails, texts, and other stuff on the web?
"And if mosques ARE under threat from Americans, well, why don't they take the damn hint that they aren't wanted, pack up their filth-building and go the hell home?"
Exactly. Good Riddance.
yusef: look here dude, I was brought up a muslim in very conservative house hold. what I forgot about Islam, you don't even know. you reasonings are shallow at best!!
so what id the murder rate is lower here? so what if there is more rape here? so what? what does this has to do with the fact the Islam is violent? I hate religions all of them.. but let's get real, Islam is one f...ing and unforgiving religion. there is no questions.... we (me as an ex muslim) and you as a muslim need to take resposibility for our own miserry instead of blaming the west every f....ing minute. come on get real. It is tragic. it is Islam that is killing muslims and denying them the very basic humanity. do you get it? look all the muslim countries, one more pathetic than the other. I go to midlle east a lot and it breaks my heart to see millions living in chain. and that chain is Islam. period... btw, I am not sure wher you are from, what ever muslim country you are from, if you blog like this they will a miisiing statistic. that is why their statisitcs are full of sh....
At the same time, homes and businesses in the vicinity of Islamic enclaves should acquire extra protection of their own.
And of course rigorous video documentation to preclude any kind of malicious accusation.
"Surely you don't rely on statistics released by islamic hellholes?! Are you stupid, or what?"
The latter. Blame Islam. And never trust islamic stats about crimes committed against females. NEVER. These are covered-up and not reported by the chest-beating dominant Neanderthal misogynist Muzlim males, who are in power. Females are worthless chattel in islamic hellholes.
"How many times are you going to give us the murder statistics in the U.S. vs. an islamic hellhole? Thirty years ago, London was one of the safest cities in the world; look at it since the muslim invasion."
Exactly.
Indonesia does have than lower murder rate than america. First Robert Spencer play up the little crime that does occure in the Muslim world. The UN report there is acturily very little crime in the muslim world on than per thousand based.
" The UN report there is acturily very little crime in the muslim world on than per thousand based ".
So what ? Maybe thefts are down ( for fear of getting your hands cut off ), or maybe rape rates are lower ( four witnesses needed, and Allah help the woman who gets raped - she would be stoned to death for adultery ). I'm sure that a raped woman would just run to the authorities to file a report !
The BS you spout is laughable.
Defenderofislam:
That's because things we consider crimes are just ok with muslims and therefore not reported as crimes. Additionally muslims move to the west and commit heinous crimes and wind up filling our prisons to the brim and pushing up our crime rate.
btw your screen name, Defenderofislam, is an oxymoron. There is no way to defend islam!
"The BS you spout is laughable." (to Defenderofislam)
So right! Total and complete BS, courtesy evil Warlord Mo.
"btw your screen name, Defenderofislam, is an oxymoron. There is no way to defend Islam!"
So right. The same as defending Fascism and Nazism.
Let's put this in perspective
Considered a hate crime by Muslims:
Telling the truth by saying there are very violent verses in the Quran.
Considered a hate crime by the rest of the world:
Calling someone an infidel then beheading them.
Of course there has been "a rise this year in the number of hate crimes against Muslims," in the opinion of Bloomberg News. After all, they would think that for a non-muslim merely to visit this site is a hate crime. This site is getting more popular. QED.
You are forgetting all the crimes done in the homes of these muslims. from oppression of women to honer killings. the suppression of all freedoms. Believe me all muslim nations are hellholes regardless of the lack of major crimes in the streets. It's specially hellholes for nonmuslims. All the wicked crimes done to infidlas aren't even counted in these hell holes.
Sorry defender of pissislam, I would rather take my chances in the west.
Defender. Dude. Did you not see the other posts made by your true nabi, nabi ZK (pbum), that's me, concerning the 1 million slaughtered ethnic Chinese or the recent violence in East Timor. Are you a dope or something? Or is it that killing non mohametans is not murder in your eyes. In the future please try to be better informed on current and recent events to avoid looking like a moron just like that imbecile Yusef. Thanks.
Your friend and true nabi.
nabi ZK (pbum)
Crimes happen. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
At least he's not doing it claiming that it's Allah's will.
As you know, man is sinful and imperfect, but at least the free ones are responsible for their own conduct, and don't have to kill out of fear that he'll disappoint Muhammed with his wife's untoward behavior.
Yes, crimes happen. Do you think those crimes are bad? Do you think honor killings are bad? Do you have a hard time subscribing to this ideology that allows for such a thing?
the violence and crimes committed by Muslims are not considered crimes under Islam....therefore they are not counted....
LOL. How right you are!
I guess they'll start telling us that the next time the Muslims try to blow up a public place it's an expression of their love and respect for Kufr people. You know, it's like how the Muslims of Malmo love tall, blonde Scandinavian women.
I used to be a very naive person who believed that "love crimes" or "simple respect crimes" were an impossibility, and that all crimes had to be "hate crimes" of one degree or another. But I guess the rise of Islam in the West and the attempts of our social democratic elites to accommodate it have now opened my eyes!
New York City mosques to get extra protection during Ramadan
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Here's the meretricious Daisy Khan, on being the victim of "hate crimes":
"Never in my life have I been a victim of discrimination or hate like I have been recently,” said Daisy Khan, speaking directly to Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, after she introduced herself as the executive director of the group that is seeking to build an Islamic community center on Park Place in Lower Manhattan.
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What have these "hate crimes" consisted of? For one thing, the proposed 13-story Mosque at Ground Zero has been characterized as a—well—13-story Mosque.
Oh, the humanity!
"As Ramadan Nears, NYPD Alert for Signs of Anti-Muslim Harassment"
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2010/07/27/as-ramadan-nears-nypd-monitors-anti-muslim-harassment/
In terms of numbers, the NYPD said there have been nine reported instances of anti-Muslim hate crimes in the city in the past year.