An important announcement from my SIOA colleague Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs:
Stop Islamization of America's (SIOA) next campaign to reach and educate the American people have hit the streets of Chicago, the first in a nationwide campaign: taxitops! I thought it was a perfect medium to get our message to the people who are hungry, tired of the lies and starving for information that the media is too afraid to provide.HONOR KILLING AWARENESS CAMPAIGN
The taxis are a powerful medium to pull the curtain back on the obfuscation and deception on honor killings. Kudos to Jeff at the Verifone Company for understanding this new use of an old medium to spread the truth.
Phase II of SIOA's (Stop Islamization of America) pro-freedom ad campaign is twofold. Primarily it is to help girls in trouble, but it is also meant to raise awareness of the rise of honor killings in the West. Young Muslim girls must know that there is an escape from their homemade concentrations camps. This is a sub-campaign and logical follow-up to the "Leaving Islam?" bus campaign, which is soon to break in another major US city.
Last week, a beautiful young Muslim actress, Harry Potter star Afshan Azad, was badly beaten, but thankfully escaped death when her father and brother attempted to honor murder her. She was dating a non-Muslim.
It is important to note that "both [Azad's] parents were born and educated in the U.K." They were not unassimilated immigrants, which the media and the apologists always associate with honor killings in the West.
There is much more. Read it all.
I think this ad will be more effective than the fatwa one. It shows actual victims of "honor" killings, a reality muslims cannot whitewash.
I'm glad SIOA is trying new advertisements.
10 out of 10 for taking this initiative! And I agree with DJM that putting faces to the ads will silence CAIR and their sponsors.
Just a simple question, by the way: Where do you guys get the energy from? Do you ever sleep? Flying here and there to give presentations, writing books, organising rallies and stuff like the freedom buses, and now this.
I'd be worn out.
Hello,
Cries of Islamophobia and Racism in 3-2-1...
Sounds of "Progressives" lapping it up *immediately*.
V/R
CamNC4Me
Hmmmmm aren't there a lot of taxi drivers that are Muslim? I know around here it's about 50%. Should be interesting.
My immediate gut reaction is that I like this ad better because it presents even more of a direct challenge. Is the LeaveIslamSafely.com site up yet? I couldn't find it.
"Hmmmmm aren't there a lot of taxi drivers that are Muslim? I know around here it's about 50%. Should be interesting. "
I was about to say — the best part of this plan is that a lot of Muslims are going to driving those taxis and, unless they don't want their job anymore, they can't do anything about it. This was a great idea.
Should read "to be driving" above.
I travel to Chicago on a regular basis and, yes, more than 50% of taxi drivers have got to be Muslim. In fact I would guess the percentage is quite a bit higher than 50%.
Makes me wonder what sort of pressure/threats the drivers of the cabs bearing this message might experience from the practicioners of the Religion of Peace.
All kidding aside I wonder if there will be unexpected repurcusions from this approach.
In any case next time I travel through Chicago I will see to it I hail one of these cabs, and I'll certainly tip the driver very well.
It's good, very good. To get the word around even more, I would be glad to lend my mind and thoughts.
This is a great ad. It's a great way to shed light on the shameful practice of honor killings among Muslims. It's a great way to challenge the demonic practice and belief of honor killings among Muslims.
For all that is evil in Islam, blame Muhammad, the Devil, and all Muslims that support such evil beliefs and practices. But don't blame Allah/God: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah
I am a lifetime Chi town gal. Well over 60% of the drivers are Muslims, many in full beard and tunic. Please understand Chi town politics. Our toady Mayor Richie Daley WILL knuckle under if there is any challenge to this. As long as the islamo nuts don't disturb his March 17 paddy parade and promise him a voter block, he would hand over the girls to be killed himself.
This is absolutely brilliant, putting a face on on all these murders, making them real, making them human. The other great thing about it is that these cabs will be stuck in traffic and the people behind and to the side will be forced to look at the ads and wonder what they mean. My daughter was involved in a project back during the election campaign of 2004 where she and other members of a pro-life group drove moving trucks with pictures of aborted children at peak travel times in several cities across America. She said that it was very effective in making people think about the subject as traffic moved slowly and sometimes stopped. She told me they got a lot of positive feedback and we'll never know how many people stopped to think about it.
These ads, as opposed to the aborted children ads, suck you right in too. The girls are attractive and you want to find out more about them. People will be forced to read the message and will put two and two together if they've ever heard the phrase "honor killings" and some people will go home and look it up on the internet. And since Americans like their women with freedom somebody's going to get mad. This one is a winner.
*Very* powerful ads featuring Amina and Sarah Said—I agree, likely to be very effective.
First bus ads, now these—excellent. The more people who see them—Infidels unfamiliar with the issue, "disobedient" or "apostate" Muslims in danger, would-be perpetrators of Muslim "honor killings" who need to know we are on to them so they will think twice—the better.
My only concern is that with the large number of Muslim cab drivers—it's probably 80% here in the San Francisco Bay Area—that there will be complaints about the ads. SIOA has dealt with complaints before, though.
Buraq wrote:
Just a simple question, by the way: Where do you guys get the energy from? Do you ever sleep?
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Yes, Buraq—this often strikes me, as well. Some days, I can barely keep up with just what's posted here on JW—that Robert authors books, writes articles, maintains a full schedule of lectures, speaking engagements and media appearances, and now has taken on SIOA, which is more energized than ever before...well, I either feel impressed and inspired, or just ready for a nap.
Kudos to Robert Spencer and the equally indefatigable Pamela Geller!
Graven, there probably will be complaints about the ads but I think the level of pain will determine what happens here. The Miami Transit Authority became uncomfortable when CAIR stuck their nose in Pamela's business about the bus ads, but then they really got squirmy when Pamela turned around and started the process to sue them. Voila! Instant bus ads.
We Christians and Jews have had to learn the hard way to play the game because for so long we didn't admit there was a game. But now that we've "gotten religion" on the subject we can give as good as we get. Let the newspapers go under and let the Obamunists try and control the internet. They are no match for the human mind that is willing to be creative and get the job done.
Now, Isabella, surely you aren't claiming that those murdered young women had the same human status as a fetus? Or even a fertilized egg? Focusing on the right of young women to their own lives can be a dangerous two-way street. They have to be controlled with guilt and shame, as in your daughter's anti-choice campaign.
You brought it up. I don't sit at the back of the bus.
Assuming that the cab drivers are not the ones who decide which ad will run on their roofs, initiating dicussion with any muslim driver with a SIOA ad should be an enlightening experience. Just be sure to be wearing your seat belt if you do!
If this is a war (and we all know it is here at JW), how reassuring that it's suddenly being fought in America out in the open. This ad can't help but make an impression upon both wavering Muslims and otherwise clueless infidels.
Sincere thanks to Pamela and Robert (and all contributors to SIOA) for insuring that Sarah and Amina didn't die in vain.
Honor killing, threat, and Islam on the same sign?
Someone might see that and wonder, if Islam is really the religion of peace...
No need to get on the defensive, Lilredbird. The point of my story was that advertising in traffic works as my daughter found out when she was working to protect life with pictures on trucks, as Pamela is doing with pictures on cabs.
No worries girlfriend. In 2010 America your right to kill your child in the womb is still safely ensconced in the Constitution.
Sad to see Islam being victimised in this manner. Some random taxi driver throats his daughters and it's not his fault but that of Islam.
People you need to remember that both America and Europe is an aging society. The numbers of white replacements just aren't there - and most of the young available will be muslims.
All you are doing here is making it harder for yourselves and your children to live harmoniously. You are punishing them; donm't you love yout children? By 2040 over 20% of Amarica will be muslim - you need to make friends with them, for God's sake grow up!
Any information on how many cabs will be sporting this terrific beret?
For that matter how many buses are displaying the former message?
I agree with the sentiments expressed here. The cab message is very effective, in my opinion. More direct and personal than the previous message.
Go Robert and Pamela!!
But then, there are all those young Iranians becoming Christians and risking their lives to attend underground churches. And they are doing this because they understand the truth will set them free. I met one of them yesterday. And then there were all the Iranian students who stood up for freedom last summer and which Pamela blogged about over at Atlas Shrugs. Just how long do you think the oppression of Islam can keep them down and under control? The lid is getting ready to blow.
Roland, your granddaughter will be a Catholic nun.
I once was impressed by a tidbit of wisdom, said by a catholic pastor after the tragic death of one of his parishioners; he said: You don't search for THE meaning of a tragic event, but you GIVE meaning to the tragic event, by an appropriate reaction. It can be given by yourself or even by your community.
I think in a way with these ads Pamela/ SIOA has GIVEN meaning to the tragic death of those beautiful girls.
Roland: Start acting like a responsible adult instead of spouting platitudes. Educate yourself about what living under an Islamic regime would mean. You know absolutely nothing about this and you are flapping your jaws at people who have taken the time to learn what you won't bother to.
Islabella: Several decades ago when women were still dying from back alley abortions -- thanks to people who believe as you do -- I took part in a pro-choice rally in which one young woman volunteered to be carried in a coffin to represent those women who died. Of course some people believe all those women went to hell, but we figured a few others might think of their own grown daughters and actually care.
There are politicians in Colorado right now who are trying to pass legislation to criminalize all birth control and refuse abortions even to save women's lives. These are "good religious people" who believe women who have sex outside of marriage are whores, married women must have children whether they want to or not, and women with fatal pregnancies deserve to die.
So don't you get self-righteous with me, missy, because I'll see your "kill your child in the womb" nasty remark and raise you somebody's dead wife/sister/daughter.
Alright, Roland, get your hands up and step away from that crack-pipe...
PERCENTAGE OF HONOR KILLINGS DONE BY MUSLIMS
According to the article "Worldwide Trends in Honor Killings," published in the Middle East Forum, Muslims do 91 percent of honor killings worldwide and 96 percent of honor killings in Europe. If you click on the link, those percentages can be found five paragraphs below the heading "Methodology."
According to Encylopedia Brittanica, Al-Azhar University is the "chief center of Islamic and Arabic learning in the world..." Robert Spencer wrote that
That may be why 91% of honor killings worldwide, and 96% of European honor killings, are done by Muslims.
Several decades ago when women were still dying from back alley abortions -- thanks to people who believe as you do
This is a myth. Women were dying at the same rate before abortion was legal as today. Women died from abortions before the invention of penicillin (more than several decades ago) due to infection. A back alley abortion is nothing more than a woman entering a doctor's office after hours through the back alley to avoid detection.
Lilredturd you attack Isabella's daughter and she just rightful put you in your place. Way to go Isabella.
Correction - you attacked Isabella's daughter first by calling her anti-choice, and she just rightfully put you in your place.
It's curious that you are so indignant about honor killings but so defending of your right to have sex and to get rid of any child that comes of it if it's not convenient for you. You can call it getting rid of it or you can call it killing it, same thing. I guess that is something you consider your "right".
Muslim men who get embarrassed by something their wives or daughters do feel it is their "right" to remove their shame by killing them. It's kind of interesting if you think about it. On the one hand, a woman demands her right to control her body and do as she pleases with it by taking away the rights of anyone who has the misfortune to be conceived while this right is being expressed. Many women who are pro-"choice" defend their "right" fiercely.
On the other hand, Muslim men believe it is their "right" to have sex. But if a woman in their family even thinks of having sex and embarrasses them these Muslim men fiercely defend their right to honor kill the women in their families to protect them from shame and to protect their "honor". And the Good Ole' Boy Worship-the-Penis-Club that is Islam defends this right fiercely.
So on the one hand, we have a group of people who demand their right to live as they please but deny the rights of others to live. Then on the other hand you have another group of people who demand their right to have sex but deny that same right to others and are willing to kill to prevent them from having it. Yes, very interesting indeed. And what makes it even more interesting is when the former are so up in arms about the latter when they are basically doing the same thing.
Be careful Lilredbird because your posts are revealing more about you than you probably want them to.
Thank you Ichthus for defending my lovely daughter who was attacked because she wants to defend little unborn babies. I mean, what a selfish bitch she is!
And thanks for that important information. It's just like when the pro-"choice" folks tell us about all those Christians who have blown up abortion clinics and murdered all those abortion doctors. Yeah, okay. There have been six abortion doctors murdered since 1997 and none for nine years until last June when Dr. George Tiller was killed. Not exactly an epidemic but then, who needs actual facts when you can paint with a broad brush. This ain't the place to do that, though. Too many people will call you on any B.S.
I think I luv you!
Well, I certainly adore your spunk & intelligence and I almost always completely agree with everything you say.
I raise my glass to you and your brilliance, brava/bravo!
Oh and since when is calling someone "anti-choice" an insult? I thought it was simply someone's truthful opinion about another's position on abortion.
Well the thing is, with pro-"choice" folks you can have any choice, as long as having the baby isn't one of them. Ask Lilredbird what she meant by it.
It's quite rich that Pamela Geller claims to care so much about Muslim women, yet she is currently denying the murder of Muslims in Sebrenecia, which was of course the greatest massacre of civilians in Europe after the Nazi's wretched attempt to kill off the Jews of Europe. Pamela's bus ads and cab ads are all part of a lame attempt to drum up publicity before the release of her new book, no less a figure than Debbie Schlussel, who was writing about jihad when Pamela was still a trophy wife, has said so. Get your heads out of your asses.
Peddle it somewhere else, sweetie. The guy holding the severed Serbian head is in fact, a Bosnian Muslim.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images51.fotki.com/v424/photos/5/1222605/8339508/001_0-vi.jpg&imgrefurl=http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/bill-clinton-enabled-radical-islam-to-take-root-in-bosnia-warning-graphic-images/&usg=__4NvKI-V-20iK12YahhhR3xGZ_WQ=&h=273&w=400&sz=35&hl=en&start=11&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=03XYMvsbJ9zWgM:&tbnh=85&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmuslims%2Bmurder%2Bserbs%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1
Nice try.
"They have to be controlled with guilt and shame, as in your daughter's anti-choice campaign."
Sounds like an attack to me. Isabella was merely giving an example of how using taxis or in her daughter's case, trucks, can be a successful way of getting your message out there, when Lilredbird had to jump in with her old tired lies about how women died from illegal abortions and how politicians in Colorado want to make birth control illegal, (voters defeated the measure and it was for the pill not all birth control) The women clearly doesn't know what she is talking about. And you think she is brillant. ROTFLMAO
This is the problem. We get all up in arms about injustice unless the injustice fits into our own lives nicely. It's easy to get mad about Muslim men behaving badly because, let's face it, their behavior stinks. But it's much harder for us to take a look in our own mirror and take out the Redwood in our own eye. And Lilredbird's reaction was way over the top for someone who supposedly believes in equal rights for all. Everyone is equal, apparently, but some are more equal than others.
F*&k you Roland.
Having seen some of Kristiane Bakker's 'friendly-face-of-Islam' adverts a few days ago, I'm longing for the day when your campaign touches-down in olde London. I know that day will come on a wing and a prayer to counter the 'Know Islam' tripe. I'd get similar rolling myself if I had the resources, needless to say. For the time-being though, a thought sprang to life recently about what I could do with a camera crew. Knowing London as I do, and having a good eye for an angle and salient features, we could get enough takes for a snappy, hard-hitting doc that could be aired your side of the pond....y'know, in a Dom Jolyish fashion with a very hard edge. It would certainly serve as a clarion-call from the crows-nest.
Actually LilRedBird and IsabellatheCrusader, I find the Sexual Revolution and Islam to both be misogynistic at their roots. Women are there to service their men, or a string of men. They are TOLD the experience (hook-ups or hijab cloaking) will be "freeing" for them but it is all so that the men can get their rocks off. The boys-forever don't pay the price but the women do, their children do and ultimately a weaker more savage society is spawned.
Try telling a guy you are pro-choice and the choice you have made is not to sleep around and he will be gone before the waiter comes with the menu.
Nope, as far as I am concerned both Mecca and Hollyweird paint a disordered, distorted picture of the true nature of men, women and what should be their beautiful love and sexuality. Give me neither type of "submission"!!
A-frickin'-men, BevC!
Pro-life is not just for the babies but also for the women involved. It's been my experience with the girls I meet who've had an abortion that they are so deeply wounded and they don't know any way to get unwounded. They're told by society that there's no problem, it's their right, why are they so upset? So they can't get any relief there and many of them think that pro-life people blame them, which is not true. Any woman who's ever had a period can be very empathetic to a woman who has had an abortion, and we are. So they don't think there is any relief there and it's enshrined in the Constitution after all. This has got to be confusing for everyone involved but unfortunately it is a lesson that is usually learned by doing. I imagine that the devil sucks girls, and their boyfriends for that matter, in by offering a quick fix. But what these girls don't understand is that the second they have the abortion he slaps a mental ball and chain on them that may last for 20-30-50 years until they find out it's okay to forgive themselves. How many women who are wounded walk among us?
The other thing is that there are women out there who will tell you it doesn't mean anything, they are not upset and they do it with the same vitriol that I'm hearing from Lilredbird. I've posted this before but I will repeat it here. After the 2004 election I went to a happy hour with a couple of business associates who were in the same networking group as me. I asked them why they were so bummed and they said because Kerry lost. Then when they asked me who I voted I told them I couldn't vote for Kerry because he is supposedly Catholic and he is so far left on the abortion issue. Well, this started the ball rolling and both these women told me they had had abortions. One was 27 years old and one was 61 years old. The younger one became very arrogant and told me she didn't regret it at all, that she had gotten back together with her ex for a one night stand which resulted in an "oops" and that she had absolutely no problem with it. The older lady was not so glib. She had a far away look in her eyes and told me that the abortion had taken place in the 60's and that it was her husband's child before they got married. She has three living children with him. I could tell what she was thinking. Anyway, the interesting thing is that after that conversation the 27 year old distanced herself from me and we never really talked again even though we'd been affiliated with that business group for a couple of years and I knew her mom well who was also in the group. I got her message loud and clear even though I'm sure she didn't think I did.
I had a conversation recently with a prominent anti-jihad fighter and told him that there was power in celibacy. He said, no way, Jose, he couldn't do that. He told me he was a horn dog and would never be able to do that. I used to think the same thing but having practiced celibacy for just shy of a decade now I can confirm that there is something to it in this spiritual fight. There is an energy or a power, whatever you want to call it, in denying yourself.
When I read about the Knights of St. John who fought the Muslims on Rhodes and at Malta one of the things that was stressed was that these guys, even though they were knights and mostly not monks, took a vow of chastity and those were some bad mutha's when it came to kicking Muslim ass. I am looking for solutions to this problem of the rise of Islamic supremacism and I think continuing to celebrate the sexual revolution does not serve us. I also think it is not a coincidence that what is coming at us in the form of oppressive, soul and body destroying Islam is a what-goes-around-comes-around moment. We demand the rights to our bodies and we are willing to kill to get it and Muslims demand the rights to our bodies and are willing to kill to get it. That one is a little too close for comfort.
Isabella...well said. I think you are really on to something. I've long believed that one of Islam's greatest weapons in gaining the hearts and minds of men and women around the world is the sadly deteriorating moral standards of the west.
How can we credibly oppose Muslim men who kill their daughters and sisters for the sake of "honor", when we so readily kill our own unborn children for similarly spurious reasons?
Keep up the good work.
Thanks Mel. I'm not trying to ruin anybody's life here but I've been through that sexual ringer myself and I've learned a lot. Sex has so many consequences that we simply ignore before we get into a sexual relationship but can tear us apart afterward.
I have often contemplated what it would be like to give up a child for adoption and even though I believe it's the right thing to do, if I had had to do it it would have ripped me to shreds. That never happened to me thankfully but I had to fight for my kids during my divorce because my friend who eventually ended up marrying my husband was very clever and manipulative and she told him that they could get rid of me, keep the kids and be one big happy family. Oh no-no-no-no-no. That would have been over somebody's dead body, and it wouldn't have been mine. In the end I got them and he became uncle daddy religiously sending Christmas and birthday gifts but doing little else. I had the teenage duty including all the nasty things that go along with it. I sometimes felt like I was hanging by my hair and my motto was, "Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger". (I hated that motto.) But I wouldn't have changed places with my ex for anything. So the thought of fooling around, getting pregnant and then having to give a kid up for adoption makes me shudder. I would miss that kid every day of my life but I would also know that somewhere he or she was alive and that would be better than what these poor girls who got on the abortion train are living through.
Gotta' run. Check you later.
Please forgive me, I was remiss, i also meant to post this, hope you see it.
Even though there are a number of areas where we share polar opposite views I also enjoy your intelligent and witty posts.
You and Lirebird are two of my favorites because you are spunky, feisty, intelligent people.
Isabella, I admire you. You've been through a lot.
the tough experiences which you've endured now allow you to speak with authority and credibility on the subject. Women the world over need people like you who can articulately and authoritatively warn of the dangers of both Islamic subjugation and the mental and physical hell brought on by abortions. Whatever you do, dont' stop speaking out!
Thanks you guys. But really, I'm not so hot. I just have to do something about this. Mel, don't worry. I couldn't stop talking about it if I tried.
As regards the abortion debate - I hear a *lot* of talk about the women involved. It seems to be all about the women.
But. It takes two to tango.
How much emphasis is the pro-life movement, in the USA - which I know little about, because I'm an Australian - placing on encouraging guys to *keep it in their pants*? To take responsibility for NOT fathering 'whoops' babies; and for that matter, to take responsibility for NOT spreading dangerous diseases about? "Love thy neighbour as thyself".
And on encouraging them to *take responsibility* for the results, if they *do* give way to temptation - as people, even the most devout Christians, have frequently done (for which, see western lit and social history from medieval times onward) and do - and the girl gets pregnant?
Question: Has anybody done a study on how abortion affects guys, assuming that they know or knew about the pregnancy? Does it affect a guy if he knows he's gotten a girl pregnant and then either 1. persuades or forces the girl to abort it, for *his* convenience or else 2. wants the child, and is willing to chip in to help look after it, but discovers the girl didn't want it, and aborted it?
Further thought: I wonder how many abortions are attempted, in dar al Islam, and also within the Mohammedan colonies in the West, by terrified girls who've been raped (quite often by their own dad or uncle or their own brothers or a male cousin), or seduced by a cad, or have actively given way to temptation, and *know* that the moment they're known to be pregnant, both they *and the baby* will be murdered by dad, mum and the clan?
Pursuant to my posting above: it seems to me to be perfectly probable that those who offer refuge, help and counsel to girls at risk of being 'honor' murdered, may find that a significant percentage of those girls are *pregnant*.
Dumbledoresarmy,
You raise some very important points. I know many girls who have had abortions simply because the males in the lives (father, brother, boyfriend, etc) force them to do so. Abortion benefits men and leaves women to pay the devastating emotional and medical price. Abortionists are almost always males. It is a "woman submits to male" paradigm.
I have an adopted sister whose mother was an Arab in what is today called south Yemen. Her birth mother left the baby on the steps of the house of a Christian who got in touch with my parents. Its a long story, but you are right, it is quite probably that her birth mother was killed, and my sister certainly would have also been if there hadn't been loving Christians in that town.
It would be good to make sure that this laudable campaign to allow girls to escape from Islam and such "honor" killings be linked with some good crisis pregnancy centers run by people of good will who will care for both the mother and the baby.
Good questions. How are men affected by abortion and does their experience matter? We're told in America it doesn't. It's only the woman that counts because she has that damned "right" to her own body. Talk about reverse discrimination. When it comes to Islam we're told that women don't matter. When it comes to abortion we're told that men don't matter. This is a very lopsided argument. You need two people to tango here and in tangoing their could be potentially three people involved but the rule is, only one of them has any say so. And who knows? Maybe it's a covertly hostile subliminal message to the man for not valuing this woman enough.
I have seen many young men support the pro-life cause at different events I've gone to that promote pro-life. The Right to Life March every January 22 in Washington, D.C. is crawling with them and I always feel a little better when I see them because it gives me hope that the next generation will "get it" that there is a cause and effect relationship between this idea that sex is a "right" and abortion is a "right". I've met some of these young guys through my daughter and I'm always struck by how attentive they are and how much respect they have for their girlfriends. They understand that these girls are special and precious, people to be valued, not potential sperm receptacles available to them if their need to get laid overwhelms them. They have a different attitude about sex, as well they should.
I've seen and heard middle aged men speak up about their experiences with lost fatherhood. The group, Silent No More, always attends the Right to Life March with members who've had abortions or men whose partners have had them. They stand on the stage with black signs with white lettering that say:
I Regret My Abortion
or
I Regret Lost Fatherhood
And they speak about these experiences and they are always heartbreaking.
There is another group called Rachel's Vineyard that promotes healing in those who've had abortions or who've had wives and girlfriends who've had them. There stories are very moving. You can read more about these groups here:
http://www.silentnomoreawareness.org/
http://www.rachelsvineyard.org/
The truth is that we've been lying too long about sex and abortion in this country. There are consequences to every choice we make and these choices affect those around us and indeed our entire societies detrimentally if we don't do the right thing. Just from a logistics point of view we know that if we abort our children and if Muslims have 6-8 kids eventually Muslims will be running the show because they will have the people there and we won't. A very simple formula but lost on the majority of Americans. So really, doing something about the pro-abort mentality is imperative if we want to survive. I guess some important questions we have to ask ourselves is, am I willing to deny myself and wait until I get married to have sex, and am I willing to have a family for the good of myself but also for the good of society so that I may strengthen and protect it or am I going to demand my "right" to have sex when I want, not have any kids and do this until the Muslims take over and take away all my rights? We're at a place now where we need to seriously ask ourselves these questions because we are running out of time to answer them.
Isabella, once again, a great post! That says it all!